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ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @h [whats that], Volla Phone - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/volla-phone-free-your-mind-protect-your-privacy#/00:17
ubptgbot<h> this is amazing00:21
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic [Initial batch of Volla Phones (some loaded with pre-installed Ubuntu Touch OS) a …], amazing!00:51
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ubptgbot<Fuseteam> no username . for name hmmm01:10
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> It's a good name, quick and efficient01:10
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic [Initial batch of Volla Phones (some loaded with pre-installed Ubuntu Touch OS) a …], hm, I might be waiting a bit - part of the "worldwide" batch01:17
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PhoenixLandPirate [It's a good name, quick and efficient], lol also hard to refer to01:23
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Maybe a lil bit01:23
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [hm, I might be waiting a bit - part of the "worldwide" batch], same here - ours are supposed to ship in November and could take several weeks to arrive - but looking forward to it as a present to self sometime around Christmas01:40
ubptgbot<mintphin> What app store does the Volla phone include by default on Android? F-Droid?01:41
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic [same here - ours are supposed to ship in November and could take several weeks t …], yep, seeing as they hit the oct goal, they shouldn't be far behind :)01:41
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mintphin [What app store does the Volla phone include by default on Android? F-Droid?], I'm not sure - I am purchasing it for use with UT - but you can ask at the Volla Telegram group here - https://t.me/hello_volla01:42
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @mintphin [What app store does the Volla phone include by default on Android? F-Droid?], the ut one( which we are ordering here) has the open store01:43
ubptgbot<mintphin> I know. I meant on Android. I know it's off-topic, but I just wanted to quickly know.01:43
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ;)01:43
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mintphin [I know. I meant on Android. I know it's off-topic, but I just wanted to quickly …], they are fairly quick to reply at the Volla Telegram group01:44
ubptgbot<mintphin> Ok thanks.01:44
ubptgbot<mintphin> i'm not planning to order one actually, but i just wanted to know.01:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> hm, the main page just says alternative app store01:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> not sure which one then01:45
ubptgbot<mintphin> Hm. Welp that's ok.01:46
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mintphin [Hm. Welp that's ok.], I think Volla is planning on their own app store with some curated open source, privacy respecting Android apps available on it - but I think you could add F-droid if you wanted.  Not quite sure - and it's off topic of this board.01:48
ubptgbot<h> @Fuseteam [no username . for name hmmm], original names go brrr01:56
ubptgbotTzbluk was added by: Tzbluk07:12
ubptgbot<Tzbluk> Hello all07:13
ubptgbot<Tzbluk> Is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu touch on Android?07:13
ubptgbot<Its_K1tty> deja vu07:14
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Tzbluk [Is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu touch on Android?], No, not really sorry. Kernel needs to be exchanged, thats a difficult task without fiddling with the bootloader07:15
ubptgbot<Tzbluk> @Flohack [No, not really sorry. Kernel needs to be exchanged, thats a difficult task witho …], Okay thanks07:19
ubptgbot<Tzbluk> I had to go back to Android...I use a redmi 7 and I couldn't get the camera to work and some Android games to play but it was nice installing it... really beautiful thanks07:22
ubptgbot<Nagendra> I am using ubuntu  touch on redmi  note 7,Lavender  and loving it. Hope there are some more updates to this to be able to use accounts.07:57
ubptgbot<Nagendra> I see that whenever I run a radio app and it goes off the mmoment I turn  off the screen, is there a way to make this run in the background even when the screen is off ? Thanks  for your help08:00
cchttps://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/145008:00
ccthis question still .....08:01
ubptgbot<Danfro> @Nagendra [I see that whenever I run a radio app and it goes off the mmoment I turn  off th …], With UT Tweak Tool enable 'prevent background suspension' should do the job.09:14
ubptgbot<Nagendra> @Danfro [With UT Tweak Tool enable 'prevent background suspension' should do the job.], Thank you I will try that09:21
cchello,ubports cant connect internet,how to solve it? on window1009:23
ubptgbotLukapanio was added by: Lukapanio09:41
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [No, not really sorry. Kernel needs to be exchanged, thats a difficult task witho …], You can use 2nd stage bl09:42
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> In rear cases even modify main lk09:42
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [No, not really sorry. Kernel needs to be exchanged, thats a difficult task witho …], Canonical did it with recovery hacks iirc09:42
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> As I do for volla09:42
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @amyosx [Canonical did it with recovery hacks iirc], Dirty way09:43
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Lukapanio [Dirty way], Yep but it worked09:43
ubptgbot<Kaizennn> Do we have front-end developers group around here?09:44
ubptgbot<X YZ> @amyosx [Yep but it worked], Better a working dirty solution than none, if you ask me  ... 😉👍09:44
ubptgbot<amyosx> @X YZ [Better a working dirty solution than none, if you ask me  ... 😉👍], Lol09:44
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [You can use 2nd stage bl], Messing with bootloader is on the edge of hardbricking devices. I would not go that way, if its not really really needed. Also, people would maybe expect that they can exchange data between both OSes which will not be the case. So you end up with redundant data on the device, and you might run out of09:44
ubptgbot space sooner. I dont think dualboot solves a lot of problems09:44
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [Messing with bootloader is on the edge of hardbricking devices. I would not go t …], What?09:45
ubptgbot<amyosx> Luka has made a 2nd stage bootloader that lives in boot partition09:45
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> What?09:45
ubptgbot<amyosx> @amyosx [Luka has made a 2nd stage bootloader that lives in boot partition], That works nicely09:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [Better a working dirty solution than none, if you ask me  ... 😉👍], No I totally disagree. YOu can always do what you want with your device, but we have a responisiblity for our users not to break their daily drivers, and they expect a solid and working OS. We will not lower our quality standards just fur hunting features09:45
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [Messing with bootloader is on the edge of hardbricking devices. I would not go t …], How can you brick device with 2nd stage BL?09:45
ubptgbot<X YZ> Why would one not be able to share data, e.g. via sd-card?09:45
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ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [Why would one not be able to share data, e.g. via sd-card?], A few devices only have SD card09:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> Thats an option, yes09:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [How can you brick device with 2nd stage BL?], So you mean flashing another bootloader into boot which tehn loads a kernel?09:46
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [A few devices only have SD card], Much devices have it09:46
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [So you mean flashing another bootloader into boot which tehn loads a kernel?], Yep09:46
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [So you mean flashing another bootloader into boot which tehn loads a kernel?], Yes09:46
ubptgbot<Flohack> Well then do it. We will not accept any solution which needs flashing of the bootloader.09:46
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [So you mean flashing another bootloader into boot which tehn loads a kernel?], Like lk2nd for example09:46
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [Well then do it. We will not accept any solution which needs flashing of the boo …], It exists09:47
ubptgbot<amyosx> It works09:47
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @amyosx [It exists], Too beta tho09:47
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> I didn't do anything for ota yet09:47
ubptgbot<amyosx> Postmarketos guys love the bootloader cause mainline09:47
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Lukapanio [I didn't do anything for ota yet], Yes but it boots09:48
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @amyosx [It exists], + not in case of Volla were I use custom bl09:48
ubptgbot<Flohack> Its not on our roadmap now, to do dual booting since we got a ton of other more important issues. You can always propse smth but it must fit our way of how we install and update devices, so you would need to resarch how that works09:48
ubptgbot<X YZ> I think that users willing to flash and use alternative OS like UT are more willing to Experiment than the average user.09:48
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [Its not on our roadmap now, to do dual booting since we got a ton of other more …], Ye ota updates is big problem09:49
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Lukapanio [I didn't do anything for ota yet], How many UT-users remount rw and thus can't use ota anyway?09:49
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> In case it overwrite recovery what could I do?09:49
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [Ye ota updates is big problem], Until we have a solution for this we would not even think of trying it out ^^09:49
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Lukapanio [In case it overwrite recovery what could I do?], Check fsrab every boot?09:50
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [How many UT-users remount rw and thus can't use ota anyway?], Not many. Why you would like to do this on a daily ?09:50
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Lukapanio [Check fsrab every boot?], No I wount09:50
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> It is wrong way09:50
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [Not many. Why you would like to do this on a daily ?], And to be honest IG ubports recovery is kinda hack too09:51
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [And to be honest IG ubports recovery is kinda hack too], As long as a hack is stable it can be a hack ^^09:51
ubptgbot<X YZ> My impression is that one of the strong points of the vollaphone for people is its ability to work with different OS right from sd. So a way of having a choice of OS without changing sd would be useful. At least until anbox can reliably do banking apps  ... and whatsapp. 😉09:54
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [My impression is that one of the strong points of the vollaphone for people is i …], It will probably never do banking apps properly :P09:54
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [It will probably never do banking apps properly :P], Cause dumb safetynet09:54
ubptgbot<Its_K1tty> what is vollaphone? sounds like someone has turned raspberry pi into the phone09:54
ubptgbot<WolfLink115> @Its_K1tty [what is vollaphone? sounds like someone has turned raspberry pi into the phone], lol09:55
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Its_K1tty [what is vollaphone? sounds like someone has turned raspberry pi into the phone], No lol09:55
ubptgbot<Flohack> TBH what do you expect of users, that they are rebooting their phones every 20 minutes since otherwise they are offline in WhatsApp? That wont happen. I would reboot once a day max09:55
ubptgbot<WolfLink115> long time no chat everyone09:55
ubptgbot<X YZ> So users can either change their bank or need Android.09:55
ubptgbot<Flohack> All other apps must work for me at any time09:55
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Its_K1tty [what is vollaphone? sounds like someone has turned raspberry pi into the phone], just another android phone but having support form ubports09:55
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Its_K1tty [what is vollaphone? sounds like someone has turned raspberry pi into the phone], [Edit] just another android phone but having support from ubports09:55
ubptgbot<X YZ> @amyosx [Cause dumb safetynet], Magisk?09:55
ubptgbot<Flohack> @amyosx [Cause dumb safetynet], Exactly. And its not dumb if you look at the fraud thats being pulled off already today. Its a useful thing09:55
ubptgbot<amyosx> @X YZ [Magisk?], In anbox? Lmao09:55
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [Exactly. And its not dumb if you look at the fraud thats being pulled off alread …], I dont think many people care about my 30 quid09:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [Magisk?], They have hardware detection now, it will get much more complicated to not detect you run on a virtual machine or hosted Android09:56
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Flohack [TBH what do you expect of users, that they are rebooting their phones every 20 m …], Exactly - for banking only. Which even increases security.09:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [So users can either change their bank or need Android.], I do banking only from a PC. I would only need the 2FA app, but luckly I can still use SMS codes09:56
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [I do banking only from a PC. I would only need the 2FA app, but luckly I can sti …], HSBC has no option for that09:57
ubptgbot<amyosx> Nor the keypad my parents have09:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [Exactly - for banking only. Which even increases security.], For that I will put aside an older Android phone. It stays at home, very safe ^^09:57
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [For that I will put aside an older Android phone. It stays at home, very safe ^^], Did you ever try lineage on the e5?09:57
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Flohack [For that I will put aside an older Android phone. It stays at home, very safe ^^], No banking when away from home? One more phone when travelling? (Business+private+banking)? I was hoping to reduce that to say volla+os-specific sd or eventuell better bl+sd.09:59
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [As long as a hack is stable it can be a hack ^^], now ik why pmos guys hate ut ;)10:00
ubptgbot<Flohack> @X YZ [No banking when away from home? One more phone when travelling? (Business+privat …], If it works for Volla it will be good. But its probably smth then restricted to Android-9+ phones10:00
ubptgbot<Flohack> I am a legacy guy, we have a lot of older devices around, in fact its over 90% of the user base10:00
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [now ik why pmos guys hate ut ;)], They hate us? Hmm do they already have a second device or an App store :P10:01
ubptgbot<X YZ> Me too ... but having that flexibility on just one device is my reason for considering the purchase.10:02
ubptgbot<Flohack> Sure10:04
ubptgbot<X YZ> Note 4 does not get Android updates anymore, same for x5+. Los for x5+ is nice, but still needs fixes. UT on U+ can't do banking ... … Perhaps that's the reason so many of us have so many legacy devices. 😉10:04
ubptgbot<Flohack> lol10:05
ubptgbot<Flohack> I have for sure 10 devices lying around :P10:05
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [They hate us? Hmm do they already have a second device or an App store :P], Indeed some of them10:08
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> Mis01210:08
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [Indeed some of them], LOL so you tell me they never use hacks and do all things according to intended architecture? I dont think so10:08
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [LOL so you tell me they never use hacks and do all things according to intended …], Mis012 is ready to fight if he here halium or hybris or libhybris10:10
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [LOL so you tell me they never use hacks and do all things according to intended …], And he don't like ut bcz of outdated things10:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [And he don't like ut bcz of outdated things], Well at least we have working phones by the numbers, utilizing Android container in a way where its still under control I would say. If you want to do all mainline well... where is the hardware ^^10:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> I need to talk with those guys, we said we cooperate but this sounds like the plan got spoiled10:12
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [I need to talk with those guys, we said we cooperate but this sounds like the pl …], Lel contact mis012 on matrix10:13
ubptgbot<Flohack> I will10:13
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> Usually he begins this in chats10:13
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Flohack [I have for sure 10 devices lying around :P], I did not even dare to mention my n900 and two low-cost old Samsungs ...10:15
ubptgbot<Deathmist1337> @Lukapanio [Usually he begins this in chats], mis012 is practically a troll, I learned to not take him seriously quite early on10:16
ubptgbot<Flohack> If someone doe snot accept diversity and compromise in that mobile world of today what can I do? Buy Librem5 😆10:16
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Flohack [I need to talk with those guys, we said we cooperate but this sounds like the pl …], In the interest of simple users and not of purity of concept in theory: Yes, please, all of these initiatives, try and cooperate or at least exchange information on who is doing what.10:17
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Deathmist1337 [mis012 is practically a troll, I learned to not take him seriously quite early o …], Ye but he do mess in chat10:17
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [If someone doe snot accept diversity and compromise in that mobile world of toda …], Pinephone10:31
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Lukapanio [Pinephone], Well its performance is subpar to the Android phones youmust admit and a lot of stuff is still not working. We are talking about a daily driver that our userbase of a few thousand ppl probably can use already today ;)10:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> We wont tell them: Sorry we go mainline now, throw away your stuff and fire up your compiler, and you need to debug every day a bit why you cannot receive calls etc10:33
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [We wont tell them: Sorry we go mainline now, throw away your stuff and fire up y …], Indeed you cant10:35
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> But what about going to Ubuntu 18?10:35
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> 16 is dead10:35
ubptgbot<Flohack> We go to 20.04 now10:35
ubptgbot<Flohack> The plan is already underway10:35
ubptgbot<Flohack> But it wont bring so much benefit to the users, its mainly Qt upgrade. Still system is a blocker, older kernels struggle with that10:36
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> @Lukapanio [16 is dead], 16.04 is still supported10:36
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Maik_aD [16.04 is still supported], Until March next year10:37
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Maik_aD [16.04 is still supported], Until next year10:37
ubptgbot<amyosx> Then dead10:37
ubptgbot<Flohack> No worries guys we are on the case10:37
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Flohack [No worries guys we are on the case], Yay10:37
ubptgbot<Flohack> But it will probably take longer than March10:37
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> @amyosx [Until next year], nope10:37
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> and then +5 years wit ESM10:37
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Maik_aD [and then +5 years wit ESM], Yeah paying companied10:38
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> nope10:38
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Maik_aD [and then +5 years wit ESM], [Edit] Yeah paying companies10:38
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> users can activate ESM up to 3 machines for free10:38
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Maik_aD [users can activate ESM up to 3 machines for free], Oh nice10:38
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> @amyosx [Oh nice], https://ubuntu.com/security/esm Ubuntu Members can get up to 50 machines. I'm lucky i got approved as Ubuntu Member. :D10:40
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Maik_aD [https://ubuntu.com/security/esm Ubuntu Members can get up to 50 machines. I'm lu …], Lol yay10:41
ubptgbotptrcnull was added by: ptrcnull10:50
ubptgbotSamarasContradiction was added by: SamarasContradiction11:24
ubptgbot<Shaun Tsai> it was 0.11.5 sorry11:53
ubptgbotSuzie Vermunt was added by: Suzie Vermunt12:20
ubptgbot<amyosx> @Shaun Tsai [it was 0.11.5 sorry], What12:20
ubptgbot<Flohack> Guys any interest in a Nexus 6 port? Withou P at the end ^^12:30
ubptgbot<SamarasContradiction> (Photo, 442x674) https://irc.ubports.com/phViki5D.png12:34
ubptgbotOliver Dziemba was added by: Oliver Dziemba12:58
ubptgbot<nanu_c> Many people tried that but no one succeeded13:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Maik_aD [https://ubuntu.com/security/esm Ubuntu Members can get up to 50 machines. I'm lu …], but we can't do this for UT really13:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> remember, all the flavors don't get the extended service; only the official Ubuntu releases from Canonical13:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Deathmist1337 [mis012 is practically a troll, I learned to not take him seriously quite early o …], definitely. he hates everything. don't take his ranting as speaking for pmOS community. others are working well with us13:50
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @dohbee [definitely. he hates everything. don't take his ranting as speaking for pmOS com …], as someone who was a part of the pmOS community, i agree with you, he's very toxic13:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> @amyosx [What], one of the weird spam bots that occasionally drops a random short string of text in the chat13:52
ubptgbot<Sophie> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tyNVdOai.mp414:26
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> @Sophie [<reply to media>], 😮14:35
ubptgbot<amyosx> C o n v e r g e n c e14:35
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> what device is that14:36
ubptgbot<Maik_aD> It... is.... BACK!14:36
ubptgbot<Sophie> It's the Fxtec Pro1. Only just hooked it up to a monitor today and 😍14:38
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @Sophie [It's the Fxtec Pro1. Only just hooked it up to a monitor today and 😍], it looks wireless? i thought that device was hdmi14:39
ubptgbot<Sophie> It is HDMI. The monitor is connected out through the wall14:41
ubptgbot<Sophie> (Photo, 956x1276) https://irc.ubports.com/c0Qyh6uO.png14:41
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> is it possible to enable miracast?14:42
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> in systemsettings14:42
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> i think one has to set some things in setenv14:43
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> AFAIK miracast currently doesn't work on most devices yet14:44
ubptgbot<Sophie> Not running Ubuntu Touch, but it is possible with the Pro1 running Android or Lineage OS14:44
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @RealDanct12 what is broken? the connection/negotion?14:44
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> [Edit] @RealDanct12 what is broken? the connection/negotiation?14:44
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> it does try to connect but didn't make it14:45
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @RealDanct12 at least is there a setting in systemsettings?14:46
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> is it some wificard problem?14:46
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> most recent wificards support p2p...14:46
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> you can enable the option for miracast14:47
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> but it just doesn't work14:47
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> what's the option?14:48
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> i want to try it out on some other device14:48
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> xperia 1014:48
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> ubuntu.widi.supported=114:48
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> you need to add it to device.mk then rebuild systemimage14:48
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> is that a setenv option? i'm using the GSI14:49
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> it's a build.prop option14:49
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> Sophie I have the fxtec pro1, is it using the GSI image?14:50
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> would like to try this out14:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> @RealDanct12 [AFAIK miracast currently doesn't work on most devices yet], because porters aren't having the android property for it set on their ports14:52
ubptgbot<Sophie> @RealDanct12 It used GSI image on Lineage OS14:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> and i guess it's probably not in the GSI14:52
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @dohbee [because porters aren't having the android property for it set on their ports], android property?14:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> also i think the GSI rootfs is a bit old14:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Heng Ye [android property?], `setprop ubuntu.widi.supported 1` i guess?14:53
ubptgbot<Sophie> @RealDanct12 [would like to try this out], 😁😁😁14:54
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> do setprop options persist14:55
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @dohbee [setprop ubuntu.widi.supported 1 i guess?], with that, it's also very broken14:55
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @dohbee [setprop ubuntu.widi.supported 1 i guess?], [Edit] with that, it's still broken14:56
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/HnTAqP00.png speaking of the fxtec pro1, i'd like to drop this image i took weeks ago14:56
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> because of keyboard flex14:57
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> looks nice - how well does ubtouch run on it these days?14:58
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @rogieroudshoorn [looks nice - how well does ubtouch run on it these days?], i have not going back to it for a week or two now as i was a bit too busy with another project14:58
ubptgbot<ImmyChan> @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], Okay so damn that's a really nice looking device 0.o14:59
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> it is15:00
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> [Edit] it is, one of the best device i've hold on15:00
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> i did not buy it anyway, got it mainly for dev15:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @RealDanct12 [with that, it's still broken], streaming to what adapter? or there is something broken in halium 9?15:01
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @dohbee [streaming to what adapter? or there is something broken in halium 9?], my tv has miracast built in15:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @RealDanct12 [my tv has miracast built in], only known working well adapter is the ms wireless display adapter, i think. others may deviate from standard or such a bit and have other issues, and would need someone with such adapters to work on improvements to deal with them15:03
ubptgbot<Sophie> @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], 😍15:06
ubptgbot<Sophie> @rogieroudshoorn [looks nice - how well does ubtouch run on it these days?], It's pretty smooth & swipe works really well with the curved edges!15:08
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> sounds like a much better setup then the cosmo phones, but still pretty expensive and they'll make you wait for months before you'll get it15:09
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> is it fully functional?15:09
ubptgbot<Sophie> @rogieroudshoorn [sounds like a much better setup then the cosmo phones, but still pretty expensiv …], Thats why I am interested to see what they are launching next week. They have plastered the Yumi logo on their teasers & sign up page.. so wondered what it could be.15:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Heng Ye [do setprop options persist], I don't think the Ubuntu namespace does... Set that in build.prop15:12
ubptgbot<Sophie> @rogieroudshoorn [is it fully functional?], Yeah it is & it the container is working as well15:12
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> hmm, guess i'll sign up then15:13
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> my OP5 has comparable hardware, and that's definately good enough15:13
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> the phone feels very luxury imo15:13
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> but i don't like oled displays, because after years it'll get burn in15:14
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> my OP5 does fine after more then 3 years ... and the colors you get are very nice15:14
ubptgbot<amyosx> @RealDanct12 [but i don't like oled displays, because after years it'll get burn in], My s2 was fine until about 24 hours of hill climb racing with virtually no break15:14
ubptgbot<amyosx> 10 year old me was strange15:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I've got the original Moto X. That thing has some crazy Android status bar and navbar burn in.15:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> burn-in happens on anything when you have stationary UI elements being constantly displayed for long periods15:16
ubptgbot<amyosx> @dohbee [burn-in happens on anything when you have stationary UI elements being constantl …], Yeah15:16
ubptgbot<amyosx> Mine had like the score and that15:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> LCD, OLED, doesn't matter. light + glass + heat == burn-in15:17
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> LCD doesn't get burn in, they get image persistence instead15:18
ubptgbot<Sophie> @RealDanct12 [the phone feels very luxury imo], I agree & the keyboard is a dream to type on.15:42
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> (Photo, 1080x2520) https://irc.ubports.com/TuW54OFg.png15:57
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> sailfish os browser15:57
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> how do you feel using it? it's not that good15:58
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> [Edit] how do you feel using it? it's not as good as morph15:58
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> but sailfish in general looks much better15:58
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> (Photo, 1080x2520) https://irc.ubports.com/w7uZILk0.png15:59
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @jameshjacksonjr [<reply to media>], when is that article from?16:00
ubptgbotphmpg was added by: phmpg16:03
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> 2 days ago on tuxmachines website i got a screenshot before it was taken down guess they jumped the gun and was supposed to wait till 27th16:04
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> To announce it16:04
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Should be tomorrow16:04
ubptgbot<phmpg> Hello, is there a prediction for a Maxx moto?16:05
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> https://store.fxtec.com/something-special-is-coming-on-october-27th/16:05
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Sorry. 27th then16:06
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> A few sites jumped the gun announcing it16:06
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> They quickly removed articles16:06
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Well I guess we should too16:07
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> @jameshjacksonjr do you have any other info, the screenshot seems to be the top of the article16:08
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> Where it says read on in first screen shot at bottom when u click it errors out article was gone16:09
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> I wasnt quick enough clicking link before article left16:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Seems like they are doing something good. Let them do the reveal in their own time16:13
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> I had heard they were leaking the article at a certain time 2 days ago for a few hours but got busy at work and miss the window of opportunity16:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> 27 October is no time to wait 😀16:15
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> Exactly16:33
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> Are any planning to get one16:34
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> delivery times are so slow based on what i'm seing online16:45
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> [Edit] delivery times are so slow based on what i'm sesing online16:45
ubptgbot<Heng Ye> [Edit] delivery times are so slow based on what i'm seeing online16:45
ubptgbotduckduckrice was added by: duckduckrice17:11
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> @Heng Ye [delivery times are so slow based on what i'm seeing online], Yeah with covid everything has slowed down correct17:25
ubptgbot<livrecinq> @Flohack [No worries guys we are on the case], +1 !17:31
ubptgbot<Benni S> I can't make hotspots with ubports on pinephone anymore. I know that worked before. not sure when it stopped (have not tried for a long time)17:44
ubptgbot<Benni S> I do not see the hotspot wifi of the pinephone. any ideas?17:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> There is also a UT on Pinephone group. Might be a good idea to head there for advice17:46
ubptgbot<Benni S> @Stereofont [There is also a UT on Pinephone group. Might be a good idea to head there for ad …], thx17:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> https://t.me/utonpine17:49
ubptgbotaccess_denied404 was added by: access_denied40418:01
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack teleports isn’t showing any messages, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling but it didn’t help, is there a fix for this?18:38
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> [Edit] @Flohack teleports isn’t showing any messages inside any chat, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling but it didn’t help, is there a fix for this?18:38
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [@Flohack teleports isn’t showing any messages inside any chat, I tried uninstall …], No sorry, it affects random users. Some reported it fixes itself after a few days. We seem not to receive any messages for chats from tdlib, but its not a bug in our code. Hard to trace18:41
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> Alright18:42

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