| callmepk | morning | 01:19 |
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| duflu | Morning callmepk | 01:26 |
| callmepk | hey duflu | 03:11 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 04:37 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 04:57 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 04:57 |
| duflu | seb128, tired, but pleased that bug 1872159 is fixed sooner than I expected. How are you? | 04:58 |
| ubot5 | bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159 | 04:58 |
| seb128 | I'm alright, I saw that nice yesterday and have it on my review list | 04:59 |
| seb128 | why do we have that distro specific timeout to start with? | 04:59 |
| duflu | seb128, Brian had reasons and a bug it fixed, so I thought it better not to go and remove it. Yet | 04:59 |
| duflu | It's only useful on a slow or hung plymouthd process, so still useful | 05:00 |
| duflu | Actually it's not useful on a slow plymouthd process. It's only useful on a permanently hung/frozen plymouthd process | 05:08 |
| duflu | But even in that case, it will return an incorrect result: Is plymouth running? No, but yes, not in a useful way but still likely hogging the graphics hardware | 05:09 |
| seb128 | duflu, it's annoying, another of those cases where people cowboyed a patch that workaround the issue without taking time to try to upstream it or have a probably review on whether that's the right solution | 05:10 |
| seb128 | the case they tried to deal with what --ping hanging forever, which is something worth upstreaming I think | 05:11 |
| seb128 | duflu, on other news, do you have any idea about bug #1897934 maybe? r-t flagged it as potential blocker for 20.10 now (they emailed a few people in the middle of the night asking if we could help debugging) | 05:12 |
| ubot5 | bug 1897934 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "The initial sound level is set to zero (muted)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897934 | 05:12 |
| duflu | seb128, no I don't have any thoughts other than the three reports there are from old slow Intel systems with old-ish Intel HDA audio. Probably a bug, but I doubt it should block anything | 05:25 |
| seb128 | I tried the iso on boxes and it's muted, but sounds like focal was the same here by trying to start a .1 image (or it's specific to the vm) | 05:28 |
| duflu | For a small number of people, or even for a large number of people, it shouldn't block anything. Lack of volume with a trivial workaround is not a serious bug worth worrying about. We've actually had more complaints over the years about the default volume being too loud, so zero is probably the lesser evil | 05:37 |
| duflu | Plus, if failure to reach the login screen is not a release blocker, then low volume definitely is not | 05:38 |
| seb128 | duflu, the rational behind the blocker status was that it makes screen reader not work out of the box which lock some users out of being able to install | 06:28 |
| duflu | That makes sense | 06:29 |
| duflu | Although anyone who needs that probably has volume buttons on their keyboard | 06:30 |
| duflu | That doesn't tell you when to use them though | 06:31 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:32 |
| oSoMoN | happy release day! | 06:32 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:36 |
| * duflu puts on a helmet | 06:37 | |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN, how are you? | 06:42 |
| jibel | good morning everyone | 06:43 |
| seb128 | lut jibel, happy release day! | 06:46 |
| pieq_ | salut tout le monde! | 06:48 |
| marcustomlinson | morning callmepk duflu seb128 oSoMoN jibel pieq_ and desktoppers | 06:49 |
| pieq_ | Have you guys seen the T-shirt Ubuntu-fr did for 20.10 release? https://enventelibre.org/fr/ubuntu-fr/179-416-t-shirt-ubuntu-groovy-gorilla.html Super groovy! | 06:49 |
| marcustomlinson | yeah très cool | 06:50 |
| pieq_ | duflu, hey, do you use Wayland or X.org with your 4k screen? I've noticed that when I come back from either sleep or lock (Super+L), the context menu triggered by right click is offset *a lot* from the mouse cursor | 06:51 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson , lut pieq_ , how are you? | 06:52 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: well thanks, you? | 06:52 |
| pieq_ | seb128, not bad! And you? | 06:53 |
| seb128 | I'm alright! | 06:53 |
| duflu | Morning jibel, marcustomlinson | 06:54 |
| duflu | Salut pieq_, I currently use Xorg with that. Sounds like you should report a bug | 06:55 |
| pieq_ | duflu, OK, will do. I need to spend some time to find a way to reproduce it 100% of the time | 06:55 |
| pieq_ | (I also use X.org, need to check if the same problem happens on Wayland) | 06:56 |
| duflu | pieq_, if it's just the desktop then the component is gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons | 06:56 |
| pieq_ | duflu, no, I've seen the problem with Thunderbird and Files as well | 06:56 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:59 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 07:00 |
| marcustomlinson | hey didrocks | 07:01 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, marcustomlinson | 07:01 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 07:03 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:03 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks999 | 07:21 |
| jibel | salut marcustomlinson and seb128 and duflu | 07:22 |
| didrocks999 | salut jibel | 07:24 |
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| callmepk | hi marcustomlinson and morning/afternoon seb128 oSoMoN jibel pieq_ didrocks | 07:26 |
| didrocks | hey callmepk | 07:26 |
| jibel | hi callmepk | 07:27 |
| Laney | moin! | 08:15 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Laney | 08:17 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:18 |
| Laney | hey marcustomlinson seb128 | 08:18 |
| Laney | doing ok yeah | 08:18 |
| didrocks999 | hey Laney | 08:19 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: doing good yeah, you? | 08:20 |
| seb128 | duflu, the overview and mouse over thing, I guess it's a non trivial change? (I'm asking wondering if we should consider backporting to the LTS if possible) | 08:20 |
| duflu | seb128, IMHO the design is finished/polished yet. But when ready it looks small. Not sure | 08:21 |
| duflu | is *not* | 08:21 |
| seb128 | k | 08:21 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:21 |
| duflu | seb128, I was wondering why we are still forced to have single line labels. Then I looked at my iPhone and it does the same, although that's due to lack of screen space | 08:22 |
| seb128 | duflu, it's not a big issue for default GNOME because their naming convention | 08:23 |
| seb128 | boxes, files, etc | 08:23 |
| seb128 | it's more of an issue for apps that have a brand name like libreoffice... | 08:23 |
| duflu | Yeah I don't think there's any excuse for not using 2 lines on a typical desktop monitor. There's lots of space | 08:24 |
| duflu | Maybe I will write a new fix and see what they say | 08:24 |
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| duflu | If kernel 5.8.0-xyz is based on 5.8.n then how do you find out the value of n? | 08:54 |
| duflu | It's not related to xyz that I can see | 08:54 |
| seb128 | duflu, try asking #ubuntu-kernel ? | 08:57 |
| duflu | Maybe it doesn't matter. My current bug appears to not exist in mainline kernels | 09:02 |
| duflu | Hah. Laney I finally found that bug 1893217. What was the upstream link you found? | 09:08 |
| ubot5 | bug 1893217 in chromium (Ubuntu) "Chrome window is corrupt - has a hole in it showing the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893217 | 09:08 |
| duflu | Looks like Alan posted a different Chromium bug in the previous conversation. | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | duflu: you can grep the changelog, don't think there's any other way to find out the kernel upstream stable release | 09:12 |
| duflu | tjaalton, probably not needed right now. Thanks | 09:12 |
| seb128 | duflu, https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1122224 | 09:22 |
| seb128 | duflu, ah, I see you found it also from your comment, yes it does sound different | 09:24 |
| luna_ | Ubuntu 20.10 release day and my sisters birthday :p | 13:52 |
| seb128 | luna_, happy birthday to them then, you can offer them a new Ubuntu ISO :-) | 14:03 |
| luna_ | seb128: heh, she mostly runs iOS to be honest but yeah | 14:11 |
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| hellsworth | good morning desktopers. happy release day! | 15:32 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 15:33 |
| hellsworth | hey there marcustomlinson | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | indeed, happy release day! | 15:35 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 15:39 |
| hellsworth | hi there oSoMoN | 15:39 |
| jibel | good morning hellsworth | 15:45 |
| hellsworth | hi there jibel ! | 15:45 |
| luna_ | congrats on the release :) | 18:34 |
| seb128 | luna_, thanks! | 18:35 |
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