dufluMorning callmepk 01:26
callmepkhey duflu 03:11
seb128goood morning desktopers04:37
dufluMorning seb128 04:57
seb128hey duflu, how are you?04:57
dufluseb128, tired, but pleased that bug 1872159 is fixed sooner than I expected. How are you?04:58
ubot5bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187215904:58
seb128I'm alright, I saw that nice yesterday and have it on my review list04:59
seb128why do we have that distro specific timeout to start with?04:59
dufluseb128, Brian had reasons and a bug it fixed, so I thought it better not to go and remove it. Yet04:59
dufluIt's only useful on a slow or hung plymouthd process, so still useful05:00
dufluActually it's not useful on a slow plymouthd process. It's only useful on a permanently hung/frozen plymouthd process05:08
dufluBut even in that case, it will return an incorrect result: Is plymouth running? No, but yes, not in a useful way but still likely hogging the graphics hardware05:09
seb128duflu, it's annoying, another of those cases where people cowboyed a patch that workaround the issue without taking time to try to upstream it or have a probably review on whether that's the right solution05:10
seb128the case they tried to deal with what --ping hanging forever, which is something worth upstreaming I think05:11
seb128duflu, on other news, do you have any idea about bug #1897934 maybe? r-t flagged it as potential blocker for 20.10 now (they emailed a few people in the middle of the night asking if we could help debugging)05:12
ubot5bug 1897934 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "The initial sound level is set to zero (muted)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189793405:12
dufluseb128, no I don't have any thoughts other than the three reports there are from old slow Intel systems with old-ish Intel HDA audio. Probably a bug, but I doubt it should block anything05:25
seb128I tried the iso on boxes and it's muted, but sounds like focal was the same here by trying to start a .1 image (or it's specific to the vm)05:28
dufluFor a small number of people, or even for a large number of people, it shouldn't block anything. Lack of volume with a trivial workaround is not a serious bug worth worrying about. We've actually had more complaints over the years about the default volume being too loud, so zero is probably the lesser evil05:37
dufluPlus, if failure to reach the login screen is not a release blocker, then low volume definitely is not05:38
seb128duflu, the rational behind the blocker status was that it makes screen reader not work out of the box which lock some users out of being able to install06:28
dufluThat makes sense06:29
dufluAlthough anyone who needs that probably has volume buttons on their keyboard06:30
dufluThat doesn't tell you when to use them though06:31
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:32
oSoMoNhappy release day!06:32
dufluMorning oSoMoN 06:36
* duflu puts on a helmet06:37
seb128hey oSoMoN, how are you?06:42
jibelgood morning everyone06:43
seb128lut jibel, happy release day!06:46
pieq_salut tout le monde!06:48
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu seb128 oSoMoN jibel pieq_ and desktoppers06:49
pieq_Have you guys seen the T-shirt Ubuntu-fr did for 20.10 release? https://enventelibre.org/fr/ubuntu-fr/179-416-t-shirt-ubuntu-groovy-gorilla.html Super groovy!06:49
marcustomlinsonyeah très cool06:50
pieq_duflu, hey, do you use Wayland or X.org with your 4k screen? I've noticed that when I come back from either sleep or lock (Super+L), the context menu triggered by right click is offset *a lot* from the mouse cursor06:51
seb128hey marcustomlinson , lut pieq_ , how are you?06:52
marcustomlinsonseb128: well thanks, you?06:52
pieq_seb128, not bad! And you? 06:53
seb128I'm alright!06:53
dufluMorning jibel, marcustomlinson 06:54
dufluSalut pieq_, I currently use Xorg with that. Sounds like you should report a bug06:55
pieq_duflu, OK, will do. I need to spend some time to find a way to reproduce it 100% of the time06:55
pieq_(I also use X.org, need to check if the same problem happens on Wayland)06:56
duflupieq_, if it's just the desktop then the component is gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons06:56
pieq_duflu, no, I've seen the problem with Thunderbird and Files as well06:56
didrocksgood morning06:59
dufluMorning didrocks 07:00
marcustomlinsonhey didrocks07:01
didrockshey duflu, marcustomlinson 07:01
seb128lut didrocks 07:03
didrockssalut seb128 07:03
jibelSalut didrocks999 07:21
jibelsalut marcustomlinson and seb128 and duflu 07:22
didrocks999salut jibel 07:24
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callmepkhi marcustomlinson and morning/afternoon seb128 oSoMoN jibel pieq_ didrocks 07:26
didrockshey callmepk 07:26
jibelhi callmepk 07:27
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:17
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:18
Laneyhey marcustomlinson seb128 08:18
Laneydoing ok yeah08:18
didrocks999hey Laney 08:19
marcustomlinsonLaney: doing good yeah, you?08:20
seb128duflu, the overview and mouse over thing, I guess it's a non trivial change? (I'm asking wondering if we should consider backporting to the LTS if possible)08:20
dufluseb128, IMHO the design is finished/polished yet. But when ready it looks small. Not sure08:21
dufluis *not*08:21
dufluHi Laney08:21
dufluseb128, I was wondering why we are still forced to have single line labels. Then I looked at my iPhone and it does the same, although that's due to lack of screen space08:22
seb128duflu, it's not a big issue for default GNOME because their naming convention08:23
seb128boxes, files, etc08:23
seb128it's more of an issue for apps that have a brand name like libreoffice...08:23
dufluYeah I don't think there's any excuse for not using 2 lines on a typical desktop monitor. There's lots of space08:24
dufluMaybe I will write a new fix and see what they say08:24
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dufluIf kernel 5.8.0-xyz is based on 5.8.n then how do you find out the value of n?08:54
dufluIt's not related to xyz that I can see08:54
seb128duflu, try asking #ubuntu-kernel ?08:57
dufluMaybe it doesn't matter. My current bug appears to not exist in mainline kernels09:02
dufluHah. Laney I finally found that bug 1893217. What was the upstream link you found?09:08
ubot5bug 1893217 in chromium (Ubuntu) "Chrome window is corrupt - has a hole in it showing the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189321709:08
dufluLooks like Alan posted a different Chromium bug in the previous conversation. 09:10
tjaaltonduflu: you can grep the changelog, don't think there's any other way to find out the kernel upstream stable release09:12
duflutjaalton, probably not needed right now. Thanks09:12
seb128duflu, https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=112222409:22
seb128duflu, ah, I see you found it also from your comment, yes it does sound different09:24
luna_Ubuntu 20.10 release day and my sisters birthday :p13:52
seb128luna_, happy birthday to them then, you can offer them a new Ubuntu ISO :-)14:03
luna_seb128: heh, she mostly runs iOS to be honest but yeah14:11
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hellsworthgood morning desktopers. happy release day!15:32
marcustomlinsonhey hellsworth15:33
hellsworthhey there marcustomlinson 15:35
kenvandineindeed, happy release day!15:35
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 15:39
hellsworthhi there oSoMoN 15:39
jibelgood morning hellsworth 15:45
hellsworthhi there jibel !15:45
luna_congrats on the release :)18:34
seb128luna_, thanks!18:35
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