[00:17] sorry I got disconnected [00:17] anyone have any thoughts [00:17] this file cannot be found [00:17] linux /boot/vmlinuz〈...tab here!...〉.efi.signed [00:30] adam0000345, do you have the signed kernel installed? [00:31] I dont know, I just do the standard install [00:31] how do I check [00:32] Thunderbird 78.4.0 has been released. When will users get an update from the repo from the very, very old 68.10.0? [00:38] uname -a [00:39] how do I check if I have a signed kernel installed [00:39] I just install [00:39] I would assume so [00:39] adam0000345: dpkg -l linux-image* [00:39] do I have to mount the drive first? [00:40] signed images don't say they're signed, unsigned ones are called -unsigned- [00:40] mount which file system? [00:40] I am on usb live stick [00:40] and I have SSD that has ubuntu [00:40] I assume I would have to mount the SSD [00:40] to check if I have signed kernel? [00:41] am I wrong? [00:41] ubuntu was installed there [00:41] right, you'd need to mount the ssd's /boot file system [00:41] could I just do / [00:41] usually that'S the first or second partition [00:41] and navigate to boot once mounted [00:41] ? [00:41] I would assume so [00:41] just mount root [00:42] and navigate there/ [00:42] ? [00:42] !enter | adam0000345 [00:42] adam0000345: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. [00:42] ok will do [00:43] if you booted an ubuntu installer live system, you could mount the file system from your ssd which contains what would be mounted at /boot in the running system. [00:43] once this is mounted you could use the gfraphical file browser to navigate to it. you may also be able to use the graphical file browser to do the mounting. [00:45] tomreyn so I am following this guide [00:45] https://heeris.id.au/2014/ubuntu-plus-mac-pure-efi-boot/ [00:45] it seems I need to have a signed file in my directory [00:45] when I try running this [00:45] it says file not found [00:45] linux /boot/vmlinuz〈...tab here!...〉.efi.signed root=UUID=〈the UUID from above〉 [00:45] thats why I was mounting the drive [00:47] so you're at the grub prompt? [00:47] yes [00:47] or at least I was [00:48] so what's your question? [00:48] I cant find the .efi.signed file that I need [00:48] why does it not exist [00:48] i don't think there are such files [00:48] the guide you were reading dates back to 2014, maybe there were such files back then [00:49] ok so what would be the equilvalent way of doing what the guide says? [00:50] I need to boot from grub [00:50] is this still possible? [00:51] with general purpose hardware and firmware, yes. for your hardware, i do not know. [00:51] probably, but i don't know how. [00:55] Thunderbird 68.* is now EOL. [00:56] tomreyn do you think this will work [00:56] https://linuxhint.com/grub_rescue_ubuntu_1804/ [00:57] lets say my hardware and firmware is general purpose [00:57] it is a macbook pro 2013 [00:57] this pretty much contradicts one another [00:57] are macbooks not general purpose? [00:58] i wouldn't say so, and probably apple wouldn't either. [00:58] are you having a simple, easy, ubuntu installation experience? [00:58] if not, i guess you're not saying so either. [00:59] from what date is the guide you are following? I see various guides on youtube, but I don't know much about the subject to recommend any [00:59] no but its because I am doing an unusual approach I think [00:59] installing on a separate drive, etc. [01:00] hooked up an old weird camera, usb identifies in dmesg, trying to pull data from /dev/bus/usb/ with dd has odd errors. [01:00] adam0000345: give this https://linuxhint.com/grub_rescue_ubuntu_1804/ guide a try, see how far you can get [01:00] ok will do [01:00] (i know that's the one you pointed to) [01:00] i tried to pull data from all of files listed, nothing was read with ddrescue [01:00] or dd [01:00] ok cool [01:01] tomreyn do you know if the standard ubuntu 20.04 creates an EFI partition by default? [01:02] last time I used a mac, it had a power pc processor and 256mb of ram :/ [01:03] adam0000345: if you booted the installer in uefi mode and chose to install ubuntu, replacing any data on the target disk, then yes, it would. [01:03] uefi mode, I am using the usb live stick [01:03] bigterd: these are devices, presented as files in the file system, but they really aren't file on a file system === vlm_ is now known as vlm [01:05] adam0000345: more correctly, if there are multiple storages and one of the other storages (not the one you're installing to) already contains an efi system partition, then i thinktthe installer would install grub to the existing efi system partition. [01:06] but since you're already running grub, i guess installing grub is not the tak that's failing [01:06] taSk [01:06] correct grub doesnt work with macs [01:06] I think [01:07] because Macs use EFI boot loader [01:07] there's a bios-bootable and an efi-bootable grub variant. [01:08] the ubuntu installer will install the one which correponds with the mode it was booted in. [01:08] ok I am trying to do a default install on my fresh disk [01:08] before I was doing custom option [01:08] linux installs fine on a mac [01:08] WHAT, IT DOES [01:08] how [01:08] kk4ewt well whats your setup [01:08] it installs fine on my mac too [01:08] easy most linux distros have efi enabled installers [01:09] ok so question [01:09] I have ubuntu installed on my SSD [01:09] I have the default drive that the laptop came with emptied [01:09] tomreyn: the fuser? i think? opened a file manager window on the desktop, shows a usb address, but blank. so i'm attempting some other means to grab data across the wire. [01:10] I plan to mount it later and use it as extra storage, it seems I cannot boot into the SSD, do you think doing a brand new install on the SSD will help? [01:10] kk4ewt [01:10] I have been doing custom where I create my EFI and swap disk partitions [01:10] but does not work [01:10] cant find my disk with Ubuntu on it [01:10] it's an old digital camera. it beeped when the usb hooked up, and says 'pc' on the two character 8 matrix LCD. [01:10] any advice? [01:10] I tried Refind and still no luck [01:11] adam0000345, i have installed fedora and ubuntu on almost every model of macbbok pri since 2015 [01:11] pro [01:11] kk4ewt when you install Ubuntu do you just do the standard install [01:11] hello everyone, so I have a question when it comes to system environment variables vs shell variables. We are running a laravel application and need to reference one of the environment variables in supervisor, however, it appears that the supervisor process does not have access to the environment variables from the .env even after doing . .env to [01:11] pull the variables into the shell. We are using Docker and in our init scripts we are loading the environment before we start supervisor. However, when supervisor starts it cannot seem to expand the environment variable. I have tried 3.2.0 which is the default version for Ubuntu through apt-get and also tried 4.1.0 with a manual install, neither [01:11] version can see the variable because it seems to add it to the shell and not the system variables returned with env or print env, how can I add all or a few variables to the system from the .env file? [01:11] not custom? [01:12] not custom at all [01:12] kk4ewt also how are you installing them, all on the same disk? [01:12] or seperate disks? [01:12] usbkey [01:12] formatted as efi [01:13] so you run the OS off USB key formatted as EFI? [01:13] boot the mac while holding the option key and select the linux [01:13] not installed onto the drive [01:13] ? [01:13] and then install to the hard drive [01:13] correct but what if you have 2 harddrives? for you are you doing this on 1 hard drive? [01:14] bigterd: diosconnect it. run journalctl -n0 -f in a terminal window, and keep it running. open another terminal window and run sudo udevadmn monitor in there, and keep it open. attach the usb device (camera), keep it conected. and wait for a minute. then gather the output of both terminal windows and post it to https://paste.ubuntu.com and share the resulting url(s) here. [01:14] adam0000345, is both harddrives phyically mounted in the mac are are you talking about a fusion drive [01:14] no both harddrives are installed in the mac [01:15] it is a macbook pro 2013 [01:15] I have the standard harddrive in it [01:15] and the SSD [01:15] you should be able to select both drives in the installer [01:15] and format and set them the way you want them [01:17] I have been doing thius [01:17] but cannot see the SSD at bootup [01:18] are you running refind? [01:18] no [01:18] or using standard EFI bootloader? [01:18] yes [01:18] and i did say 2015+ [01:18] interesting [01:18] this is true [01:18] 2013 vs 2015 [01:18] but can 2 years make a huge difference [01:18] yes [01:18] I guess? [01:19] 2 years is only running sierra vs catalina [01:19] well as long as you are getting EFI detection on the drives doing everything standard and default, I can try that [01:19] install to the ssd [01:19] anyone have any suggestions? [01:20] yes I do install to SSD [01:20] boot and select the ssd with the option key [01:20] SSD does not show up [01:20] there is no SSD option [01:21] no idea what your issue is [01:21] I will probably have to use thius [01:21] https://linuxhint.com/grub_rescue_ubuntu_1804/ [01:23] jcrawford: your question is somewhat implementation specific, i don't know what this .env file is. see if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables helps you. basically, enviuronment variables can be defined system-wide in /etc/environment and per user in ~/.pam_environment. you can also set and export variables to a users' shell [01:25] jcrawford: maybe you're looking for something like this: https://gist.github.com/mihow/9c7f559807069a03e302605691f85572 [01:27] adam0000345: new ssd that not show up is nvme ? [01:27] nvme? [01:27] what is that [01:27] no [01:27] it is a samsung SSD [01:27] 500 GB [01:29] tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hHq2kShYSF/ [01:29] 2in1 [01:30] tomreyn I tried adding TEST='blah' to the /etc/environment but when I did a source on the file and then ran env it did not output the TEST variable, I then tried printenv and it did not print out the variable. Basically it seems that supervisor will only expand a system environment variable that is available in all shells and not from a .env file [01:30] which is loaded into the shell through . .env,. For clarity the .env file is simply a key=value file for environment variables. [01:30] let me try that gist and I will get back to you with the results tomreyn [01:34] tomreyn export will only load the variable for the current shell correct? If that is the case that is not what I am looking for, I am looking for how to add a variable that would be available through printenv [01:34] even variables put in place using export do not appear in the printenv output [01:36] ohhh I see I am wrong export does in-fact make it available :) [01:36] maybe not :( [01:37] $ echo $WORKER_THREADS1 [01:37] $ supervisorctl rereadERROR: CANT_REREAD: Format string '%(ENV_WORKER_THREADS)s' for 'program:laravel-worker.numprocs' contains names ('ENV_WORKER_THREADS') which cannot be expanded. Available names: ENV_HOME, ENV_HOSTNAME, ENV_OLDPWD, ENV_PATH, ENV_PWD, ENV_SHLVL, ENV_TERM, ENV__, group_name, here, host_node_name, program_name in section [01:37] 'program:laravel-worker' (file: '/etc/supervisor/conf.d/supervisor.conf') [01:37] it's specific that you add ENV_ to the variable with supervisor, not quite sure why [01:38] im trying to create a user with a specified home directory. If i create the user and su into them im getting permission denied for the .bashrc file :) === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:45] fuck me i guess [01:46] anyone experience xhci_hcd error/fail [01:47] i brought a typec hub [01:47] plug keyboard/mouse and the error has gone [01:49] j [01:50] this is usb 3.1 [01:50] error [01:50] xhci_hcd [01:50] this is linux built-in [01:52] other question [01:53] anyone knows why nvidia-prime on demand works slow external monitor primary? [01:53] ubuntu 20.04 nvidia driver 450 [01:54] tomreyn: any luck? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hHq2kShYSF/ === laeti is now known as beaver [01:54] bigterd: hmm, does it show up in gio mount -l as a mountable device? [01:55] apparently it's not detected as mtp capable [01:56] bigterd: "093a:010e" is the device specifc USB ID, you can search the web for this to find suggestions on what to try. [01:56] maybe combine the search with linux OR ubuntu OR debian [02:04] jcrawford: /etc/environment is not meant to be sourced, pam would set this on login. supervisor is not a default ubuntu component, and i'm not very familiar with it. you may need to refer to its documentation if you depend on how it works. [02:05] tomreyn yea I created an issue for the project and they instantly closed it citing I was using an old version, I tried the new version and got the same issue. SMH. Basically supervisor just watches processes and if they die it restarts them [02:05] since version 3.2.0 it is suppose to expand environment variables with %(ENV_VARIABLE_NAME)s but it does not appear to be doing that. [02:06] just trying to set the amount of workers for laravel to process the jobs but meh [02:06] there's a way to set usb 3.1 function as 3.0 or 2.0 [02:07] via kernel parameter [02:08] jcrawford: http://supervisord.org/configuration.html?highlight=environment [02:09] tomreyn: thanks. [02:09] tomreyn: old family photos on this thing. [02:10] noteworthy statements there seemto be "at the time that supervisord is *started*" (you may have exptected this since it is to be expected), and "In Supervisor 3.2 and later, %(ENV_X)s expressions are supported in all options. In prior versions, some options support them, but most do not." [02:10] jcrawford: ^ [02:11] okay, you already discussed the second part, so you read this already. [02:12] bigterd: and there's no removable storage media in it? [02:12] i.e. you can'T connect that to your computer directly? [02:13] (usually by means of an (micro)sd card reader) [02:15] no man. it has one button, a manual focus slider, no screen, one tiny weird removable battery. [02:15] the usb cable is queer too. [02:15] vivatar [02:16] gthumb import attempt shows it up as dual mode digital camera [02:16] wonder if mplayer or ffmeg ccan pull a stream of data from it? [02:17] bigterd: did you try gphoto2 with gphoto2 --auto-detect -a -P as is suggested by some (admittedly very old) posts online? [02:17] i was going to attempt a device dump then pick through it with testdisk. [02:18] tom Digital camera, CD302N usb:001,013 [02:18] one line after loading usb drivers. [02:18] so? [02:19] oh, well, i tried it. haha. [02:19] sorry? [02:19] that's the reuslt. [02:19] you tried ghoto? [02:19] *gphoto [02:19] tomreyn: yes. laods usb drivers, then prints that last line. [02:20] attempting to import with gphoto results in no files to import. [02:20] oh gphoto prints this, ok, i was thinking you're referring to the previous output [02:20] i see [02:21] so that's also with the above gphoto2 options, right? [02:21] i guess next concolusion is to try and take a photo and retry this process and see if a photo is saved, at risk of overwritting anything previous, corrupt or not? [02:21] tomreyn: yes [02:21] why can't a user cd into their home directory... .bashrc permission denied :) [02:21] im getting really pissed off with ubuntu :))) [02:22] bigterd: you could try, but i'm not sure what it'd achieve really if you know this. [02:22] !language | Batzy [02:22] Batzy: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [02:23] oh, it might really be empty? but i remember it being used. [02:23] Batzy: sudo -u targetuser -i [02:23] i'm out a ideas, and also limited in experience, but there probably are precious photos on here i want to get back to someone. [02:24] in the mean, i do appreciate the help. [02:24] i got warned for language for saying 'pissed off'? [02:24] Batzy: that, and other things, yes [02:24] ? [02:24] well...you're blocked [02:25] anyways sudo -u user -i just says unable to cd to home directory... permission denied. Also /bin/bash permission denied [02:25] i'd tell you more, but i guess you just blocked me. [02:26] tomreyn, i unblocked you [02:26] hah [02:26] just please dont be unnecessarily rude or problematic [02:26] and we should be fine [02:27] i wasn't, just had the channel bot kindly remind you of the channel rules [02:27] which ubuntu release are you running there? [02:28] 20.04.1 LTS [02:28] it's ubuntu server [02:28] does the home directory of the target user actually exist? [02:28] yes [02:29] does the target user have access to this directory? [02:29] idk what that means [02:29] a user needs to be able to enter their home directory. [02:30] yes that's what im complaining about [02:30] they cant do it [02:30] 0tomreyn thanks for the link but I have referenced that more than a few times and that is exactly what I am doing yet it says it cannot expand the variable, the project itself has not been much help: https://github.com/Supervisor/supervisor/issues/1380 [02:30] tomreyn ^^ [02:31] Batzy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [02:32] Batzy: the target user needs to be able to access (change into, mode +x) the directory above their home directory, as well as the home directory itself. [02:32] AH [02:32] ah* [02:32] I am *sure* it is something I am doing wrong but I cannot seem to figure out what it is, I am following the docs to a T [02:34] i think it is not su but su - [02:34] for the correct environment. [02:35] tomreyn, useradd wont let me specify directory now [02:35] hm [02:37] Batzy: I can't help without knowing the command you ran (incl. all arguments) and the output it produced, on the pastebin. [02:37] just did a useradd -d username [02:38] jcrawford: in case it helps, you can pass an environment variable TEST with a value of VALUE to a comand COMMAND by running: TEST=VLAUE COMMAND [02:38] jcrawford: much depends on how you're starting supervisord, i guess. [02:39] tomreyn, still permission denied [02:39] :) [02:39] i did chmod +x [02:39] Batzy: see what i told you previously [02:41] i did [02:41] thats why i chmod +x'd two directories [02:41] also note that ubuntu and debian derivatives in general prefer the use of "adduser" rather than "useradd" to ensure some defaults are applied. you can use either, but unless you're very careful, chances are you may use useradd incorrectly. [02:41] i did adduser just now [02:41] it worked === Mibixy is now known as Mibix [02:43] tomreyn, they still cant get into the directory but it set their home directory i mean [02:43] permission denied on the .bashrc [02:43] try namei -k /apth/to/the/.bashrc [02:43] sigh [02:44] try namei -l /path/to/the/.bashrc [02:44] the best part of this is that i cant tab complete any of these directories :))) [02:44] hah that'll drive you insane quick [02:44] https://termbin.com/r2wg [02:45] the user is /deenz [02:45] username doesn't match the home directory? oof :) [02:46] tomreyn talk about a bug... https://github.com/Supervisor/supervisor/issues/1380#issuecomment-714186098 [02:47] basically if i start supervisor letting it find the configuration file it would not expand the variable, if I specified the file it did expand just fine. Either way I start it, it is using the same file because when I started without specifying the file it complained about the variable not being able to be expanded, once I specified the file it [02:47] seems to work fine and expands the environment variable SMH [02:47] sarnold, ? [02:48] Batzy, need o+rx on /media and /media/slackfs [02:48] Batzy: so -- you'll need to give world read and execute access to /media and /media/slackfs -- I don't know if the mismatched names will cause you any other problems, it's probably fine, it's just something extra to remember [02:49] it needed to be ALL parent directories? ok [02:49] that worked [02:49] ty [02:49] yes, unless the process has another path to the directory (bind mount) [02:49] ive been having problems all night with this, thanks [02:50] namei -l has become a regular tool in my toolbox after I spent twenty minutes one day tracking down a similar problem :) [02:53] jcrawford: glad you found a solution that works for you. i'm not fully convinced, yet, that this same configuration file was being used when you didn't specify it as an argument to supervisord. you could strace it, or try to see if you can determine its build configuration. note that the package in ubuntu can be configured differently than the upstream release (also in terms of which configuration files they'll read) [02:53] https://github.com/Supervisor/supervisor/blob/master/supervisor/options.py#L107 seems to list the configuration file locations upstream looks for [02:54] tomreyn I am because when I modified the file to reference the environment variable and did `supervisorctl reread` it would error about the environment variable, if it was not finding that same file it would not have complained it would have just restarted and not implemented the value./ [02:54] sarnold, can multiple users have the same home directory in ubuntu? [02:55] since it complained that tells me it was reading the file I was modifying, for some reason when you manually specify it expands the variables, creating a new ticket for that now [02:56] Batzy: only if you give all the users the same uid -- in which case they're essentially the same user. each one could have their own username, and their own password, but a LOT of software assumes that there's a 1:1 mapping between username and uid, and if you violate that assumption, random pieces of software will fail in ways that may not be easy to spot [02:58] jcrawford: hmm, i see, i guess this does sound wrong, i agree [03:17] HOW can I make a command run without sudo nor password? [03:18] I am trying to run a command wondershaper in a program [03:21] has anyone here experienced ubuntu install freezing on them [03:21] when it said retrieving file 1 of 1 [03:22] is this normal or should I restart the process? [03:23] adam0000345, I'd switch to a text terminla & explore what it's doing, you can also check you don't have network issues... [03:23] I dont see text terminal option during install [03:24] (you didn't provide any release details, or which ISO so it's general advice)\ [03:24] 20.04 [03:24] ctrl+alt+T may open a terminal still, but I'd use ctrl+alt+F4 probably [03:25] I also usually check for squashfs errs... and like issues too [04:07] Im using ubuntu server. i installed ufw, removed unnecessary aps, am using a reverse proxy , not using UI. is there anything else that I should do to harden the security of my server [04:09] doesn't seem like Ubuntu has an official hardening guide [04:10] might want to hit up https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening and see what's applicable [04:18] ok [04:35] quick question, looking for debugging ideas. so my cousin is a recent linux convert and i was helping him install i3-gaps on his ubuntu setup. being an arch user, i totally forgot about PPAs, so I had him do a manual install (via makefile) per the instructions here: https://gist.github.com/boreycutts/6417980039760d9d9dac0dd2148d4783 [04:35] ok [04:36] https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall [04:39] long story short, it never worked, so i tried using `sudo make uninstall` to remove it, and it seemed to work based on the output, so then we tried to install i3-gaps via the PPA, it looked like it installed but on his login screen was only i3 (not i3-gaps), and booting into i3, there were no gaps. [04:39] so then i had him uninstall the i3-gaps package from the PPA via apt, had him uninstall i3 via apt, but here's the problem - i3 is still on his system [04:40] matzy_: try this maybe: https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall [04:40] matzy_: ...alternatively [04:40] I usually recommend people install the specific distro that is preferred by whoever it is will be supporting them [04:41] which in this case is arguably Arch [04:41] i had him query apt to see if the package was installed and apt said no. he then tried `dpkg -l i3` just to be safe and it also said i3 isn't installed [04:42] but he's in this chat right now, running it through i3 :O it's still there, somehow!? [04:43] matsaman: i can have him try re-installing from source if you think that's the best way to go from here [04:43] (per your link) [04:43] matzy_: well it would allow you to know where all the files the install process generated are [04:44] matzy_: oh, but [04:44] that i3 is still _running_ is not the same as i3 still being _installed_ [04:44] on Unix systems you can delete applications while you use them [04:44] they disappear fully only after you cease all their processes [04:44] that's totally normal on Unix systems [04:45] and wonderful [04:45] because you can upgrade software while you use it [04:46] but if i had him delete it and then restart (well he's restarted multiple times by now), and it's still there everytime on his login screen [04:46] if you restart and it still works, it's still installed yeah [04:47] think checkinstall will be your simplest route, if you wnat to fix this system without reinstalling [04:47] yeah that's what i thought. so if apt doesn't think it's installed and neither does dpkg, what does that even mean? [04:47] installing via the makefile didnt make a .deb and isnt tracked by apt? [04:47] just that you didn't install it via apt/dpkg [04:47] which you didn't [04:48] indeed, it is not [04:48] ahhh [04:48] you just said "hey throw some files wherever you like" basically [04:48] so all you can do is use something like checkinstall to find that list of files [04:48] and then move them elsewhere [04:48] if your regular OS/package manager doesn't complain then you're good [04:48] if it does, some of the files might need to go back [04:49] in the case of something like i3, probably there will be no complaints [04:49] this is also why it's a total waste of time to try and remove malware _after the fact_ without reinstalling [04:49] not unless you already have a comprehensive list of files that you trust, via a system like AIDE or the like, etc. [04:50] so basically, ignore the fact it's already there, go through the manual makefile-install process again, but use checkinstall this time and i should be able to see what's going on [04:50] now some distros have utilities to scan all files in a hierarchy and determine whether they're untracked by the package manager, at which point you can potentially just delete them [04:50] ah, that's really cool about malware - never realized that [04:50] but I'm not sure what Debian/Ubuntu has for that, I mostly use another distro [04:51] yeah you just need to know what it installed to where, so you can remove it (moving/backing up would actually be smarter, in general) [04:52] once it's gone you should be able to use apt/dpkg as normal, hopefully [04:52] hey i'm the cousin and i did find several different i3 files under /usr/bin. I stopped looking after that so there could be other directories that i dont know about that has i3 files [04:52] matzy_: and, you can also use checkinstall even if you _do_ want to install something without apt [04:52] matzy_: as a very rudimentary package manager of its own, since it can tell you what is installed and where [04:53] wow, i had no idea, that's really neat [04:53] probably a lot of other approaches to that, of course, too [04:54] the string 'i3' is pretty unique, you could probably fudge it by doing find / -xdev -iname '*i3*' and taking care of all it finds [04:54] but using checkinstall's info would be more precise [04:55] matsaman: should i leave the files alone that i found under usr/bin or delete the files,or is that a bad idea?, and go through the Checkinstall process? [04:56] checkinstall should tell you _exactly_ what was installed and where [04:56] if you'd rather just mv or rm things, like I said 'i3' is a pretty unique string [05:00] Hello everyone :D [05:00] hi [05:02] What is the difference between kernel 4.15.0-121 and 4.15.0-122 ?? [05:02] because my wifi works with 121 but not 122 [05:02] is there a security concern? [05:03] matzy_: actually this page says checkinstall just makes a deb, so you'd still be keeping track with dpkg, ultimately =P but still [05:06] JPSman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralVersionMeaning.What_does_a_specific_Ubuntu_kernel_version_number_mean.3F [05:07] JPSman: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-signed/linux-signed_4.15.0-122.124/changelog [05:07] probably have to get both and diff them [05:08] first of all, thank you very much matsaman :D - I have both installed - how can I diff them? [05:09] well dpkg -L packagename should list all the files [05:10]