[00:10] Just saw this: Kali LinuxNethunter also offers Convergence. https://www.kali.org/docs/nethunter/nethunter-kex-manager/ [00:10] it has an android base tho [00:17] (Photo, 2560x1451) https://irc.ubports.com/m8gE20ef.png [00:17] nice keyboard flex [00:18] wait what [00:18] cool keyb on background [00:20] 😆 [01:08] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/CmjAbmKU.png [01:08] @PiecerEdd keyboard flex [01:09] pff that aint a phone [01:10] Still count as keyboard [01:10] Because you flexed your trackball keyboard [01:20] there's this video in spanish of a guy saying how ubuntu touch died and when the comments said it wasn't because of the ubports community the video creator said "it technically still is" [01:20] [Edit] there's this video in spanish of a guy saying how ubuntu touch died and when the comments said it didn't because of the ubports community the video creator said "it technically still is" [01:20] [Edit] there's this video in spanish of a guy saying how ubuntu touch died and when the comments said it didn't because of the ubports community, the creator said "it technically still is" [01:25] who is NeoTheThird ? [01:30] ohhh [01:30] @RealDanct12 [Because you flexed your trackball keyboard], i was trying to flex my phone's keyboard not my trackball one :( didnt even realize that one was in the background, duh [01:31] flew right over my head that one [01:33] @X YZ [How many UT-users remount rw and thus can't use ota anyway?], it doesn't disable ota [01:35] just things are overwritten that you changed, and small chance of a merge confilct so to say [01:39] @X YZ [So users can either change their bank or need Android.], yeah, if a bank doesn't have a good website that works across browsers/systems, seems like they don't want you taking money out maybe :) , just saying maybe it is good to look for new banks in these cases [01:45] @jameshjacksonjr [https://store.fxtec.com/something-special-is-coming-on-october-27th/], interesting, if they ship with ut. I think I will be thinking about it :) [01:46] hm, indiegogo... [02:03] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/r0ZJzzCT.png [02:03] Its been online on various sites [02:04] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tW5D6Srn.png [02:08] The partnership with XDA sounds real cool s well as adding X to the phones name [02:10] oh, 8gig that sounds nice [02:10] ah, so same phone - new os's [02:11] that sounds awesome then, i know a few in the community were showing the port for it [02:13] @jameshjacksonjr [], oh my, why would they use that old logo 😅 [02:14] Ikr [02:14] brings me back to ubuntu 9.04 days ;) [02:15] @mateosalta [ah, so same phone - new os's], and the letter X in the phone name X is cool in mainstream phone names so could be good for marketing [02:16] Pro1-X sounds cooler than Pro1 [02:17] oh man, this will be the third new ut phone [02:18] (officially sold with) [02:18] (from the ubports community) [02:18] verry cool [02:18] Yup they are doing big things UBports foundation [02:20] hope my overtime slows down a bit at work, need more time to do stuff here :) [02:20] The Fxtec Pro1 is a very cool phone [02:21] But the Fxtec Pro1-X will be even cooler [02:21] I have one and I can confirm its a very cool phone, or the best one I've owned [02:22] Better than the pinephone? [02:22] Heard pinephone is gonna get a keyboard [02:22] @jameshjacksonjr [Better than the pinephone?], probally in some ways [02:22] It is much faster than the PinePhone and probably the Librem5 [02:23] It has a Snapdragon 835 by the way [02:23] @RealDanct12 [It is much faster than the PinePhone and probably the Librem5], too bad it has proprietary blobs [02:23] pine was about trying to get a lot of things in new kernels [02:23] @mintphin [too bad it has proprietary blobs], Well it doesn't have secureboot fuse blown by default [02:24] So anyone could develop a FOSS implementation [02:24] @RealDanct12 [Well it doesn't have secureboot fuse blown by default], wait what's that [02:25] Something that prevents unsigned firmware to load I think [02:25] @RealDanct12 [Something that prevents unsigned firmware to load I think], oh ok then that's cool [02:25] are they signing the firmware then? [02:26] They might've been signed [02:26] But it's fuse is not, so it can load anything they wish [02:27] ah [02:27] Anyway, I don't work for them or even Qualcomm so what I've said is probably untrue [02:27] But I got the device for development [02:28] And for low-level stuffs like these, it's out of my skill level [02:29] i know some really want a device that is locked down to that level, so that if a lost phone cant be hacked [02:30] i think one of the main reasons we havent gotten around to system encryption, is because it could be bypassed without the secureboot [02:32] well that and user data is seperate, and those that really want can figure out a way just to encrypt that [02:36] but that doesnt really bother me as much, it seems strange to me when the facebook app has a front door to all the data they want :) [02:57] can I install Ubuntu Touch on a Lenovo X1 Yoga? [03:01] and why no .ISO for a USB flash drive? Do I need to install *Ubuntu first then install Touch over it, or what? [03:05] finally i sove the ubports cant connet internet [03:06] add "199.232.68.133 raw.githubusercontent.com" to your computer hosts [03:06] then it's okey [03:07] and now a new question :how to use ubports to install ubtouch ?i mean my phone systerm is already ubtouch 16.04 [03:22] the download installer that uses appimage page just redirects to a video :\ [03:24] DarwinElf: er....i cant see the video [03:24] should i make phone on 'fastboot' mode? [03:24] or make phone on normal ubtouch mode [03:25] model === cc is now known as op [05:45] Fwd from Ella Ryan: EARN FROM HOME … 👇👇 … Benson John: … https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEUTu5WMcRcDKxWgfQ [07:07] @PiecerEdd [nice keyboard flex], do you have UT on geminipda? [07:40] I need ut for oppo f15 [07:57] @PARTHIBAN GM [I need ut for oppo f15], If u have pc and some good hardware in it u can try porting it [07:59] @hilledkinged [If u have pc and some good hardware in it u can try porting it], Yah you are right but i am new to coding so if you did it i will pay you how about that [08:00] @hilledkinged [If u have pc and some good hardware in it u can try porting it], Who know in future if i earn more i will pay you more ☺️ [08:00] @PARTHIBAN GM [Yah you are right but i am new to coding so if you did it i will pay you how abo …], Nah cant do it. [08:01] @PARTHIBAN GM [Who know in future if i earn more i will pay you more ☺️], See the ubof group [08:02] if you're willing to pay, getting supported device is going to be much more reasonable (and cheaper compared to developer effort) [08:02] [Edit] if you're willing to pay, getting a supported device is going to be much more reasonable (and cheaper compared to developer effort) [08:04] @NotKit [if you're willing to pay, getting a supported device is going to be much more re …], Yah but supported devices are not available here [08:04] which country? [08:05] We can get it second handed but the quality sucks [08:05] @NotKit [which country?], INDIA [08:05] U need a rom [08:05] Find a custom rom [08:05] probably you can find Xiaomi [08:05] And send me [08:06] @amyosx [And send me], Yah i have found only one AOSP rom for my device is it ok [08:06] @PARTHIBAN GM [Yah i have found only one AOSP rom for my device is it ok], Sure send source [08:06] @NotKit [probably you can find Xiaomi], Nope old models abolished [08:06] you should have something like local eBay [08:06] Wait is it phh? [08:07] We need the kernels source [08:07] @amyosx [Wait is it phh?], https://www.getdroidtips.com/android-10-oppo-f15/ [08:07] @PARTHIBAN GM [https://www.getdroidtips.com/android-10-oppo-f15/], Yeah that's a GSI [08:08] @NotKit [you should have something like local eBay], Yah we have local markets for electronic but we cant able to judge the quality who knows what happens next [08:09] @amyosx [Yeah that's a GSI], Can you able to make one for me is it possible [08:09] @PARTHIBAN GM [Can you able to make one for me is it possible], We need something different for Ubuntu touch [08:10] If you want something nicer for ur phone try LineageOS 17.1 by Andy Yan [08:10] But lineage is not available for mine [08:11] @PARTHIBAN GM [But lineage is not available for mine], No Andy Yan can be installed same as aosp [08:11] A GSI [08:11] GSIs work on any phone [08:11] @amyosx you're going into offtopic zone [08:11] @NotKit [@amyosx you're going into offtopic zone], Sorry [08:11] @amyosx [No Andy Yan can be installed same as aosp], Only one custom rom AOSP thats it and i cant able to find a developer for it [08:11] @ubportsof [08:11] @UBportsOF [09:19] @mintphin [there's this video in spanish of a guy saying how ubuntu touch died and when the …], Haters gonna hate [09:23] @PARTHIBAN GM [Can you able to make one for me is it possible], It is a task taking 12-18 months maybe. Not financially viable. It is done out of passion to complete the task. So the porter chooses the device they want [09:24] Thanks for your reply man [09:24] @Stereofont [It is a task taking 12-18 months maybe. Not financially viable. It is done out o …], Thanks for your reply [09:25] I mean $2500 might work… [10:11] @Stereofont [I mean $2500 might work…], depends how interesting the device is to the porter and how many quirks it has [10:26] @hacker12455 [depends how interesting the device is to the porter and how many quirks it has], Ye [10:27] @Stereofont [I mean $2500 might work…], I'd do for 2000 [10:27] With that money u could buy 200 pine phones lmao [10:28] @amyosx [With that money u could buy 200 pine phones lmao], wrong math :) [10:28] I baf [10:28] @amyosx [With that money u could buy 200 pine phones lmao], Lel nou [10:29] Lol [10:29] I still in bed chill out [10:29] (I woke up 3 hours ago but...) [10:29] Only one 0 out [10:30] in practice with shipping/taxes included it is around 10 [10:30] Oof [10:30] Or i get a volla [10:33] @amyosx [Or i get a volla], Several, actually, for $2000 ... like one for VollaOS, one for UT, one for SFOS and a few in reserve for things / OS to come😉 [10:33] @X YZ [Several, actually, for $2000 ... like one for VollaOS, one for UT, one for SFOS …], Lol [10:33] amyROM [10:33] amyROM Ruby wen [10:40] @X YZ [Several, actually, for $2000 ... like one for VollaOS, one for UT, one for SFOS …], lel why tho [10:41] at that point just donate the money to ubports [10:44] @joeth [at that point just donate the money to ubports], Yes [10:48] @joeth [at that point just donate the money to ubports], +1 [12:19] Pawel Borowski was added by: Pawel Borowski [12:42] (Photo, 1080x810) https://irc.ubports.com/cw2paX8v.png My librem 5 ships in November they said so soon ill be in the ubports camp i cant wait [12:44] What is the status of UBPorts for the Librem? Especially bluetooth handsfree calls in the car? [12:44] Been donating to them via their Patreon for the last year and a half in anticipation of this super excited [12:45] They made the announcement back in 2018 for ubports on Librem 5 so im expecting a good port with all this development time [12:45] IMO the librem is an overpriced pinephone [12:45] @jameshjacksonjr [They made the announcement back in 2018 for ubports on Librem 5 so im expecting …], Lol [12:46] @amyosx [IMO the librem is an overpriced pinephone], yes but librem is a little bit faster [12:46] @just_carlod [yes but librem is a little bit faster], Littls [12:46] I received my Librem 5 almost a year ago. And since a month and a half, I can actually use it. PureOs is not as nice to use as UBPorts. [12:46] L5 finally shipping? That's good news ... so we have Pinephone, Vollaphone, Librem5, f(x)tec, .... for Ubuntu Touch - very nice development in 2020. 👍 [12:46] Not 300 more wort lol [12:47] @amyosx [IMO the librem is an overpriced pinephone], pinephone convergence edition has 3gb ram/32gb eMMC so the stuff is basically the same, besides that pinephone is less a few hundred dollars and includes USB-C dock [12:47] @Heng Ye [pinephone convergence edition has 3gb ram/32gb eMMC so the stuff is basically th …], Yep [12:47] librem 5 looks better tho [12:47] with the kill-switches [12:47] but isn't that the point of linux - that nobody is spying [12:47] @ulrichard [What is the status of UBPorts for the Librem? Especially bluetooth handsfree cal …], Idk, no one from us is working on it. I would warn you, probably not better than the Pinephone [12:48] And maybe very early stage where nothing works ^^ [12:48] @jameshjacksonjr [They made the announcement back in 2018 for ubports on Librem 5 so im expecting …], Oh dear. [12:48] What makes you think so? [12:48] @Heng Ye [pinephone convergence edition has 3gb ram/32gb eMMC so the stuff is basically th …], They use slower ram and emmc storage in pinephone ddr3 vs ddr4 [12:48] First of all, who is "They"...? [12:48] Gpu is better too [12:48] Is the pinephone also as thick and heavy as the Librem5? [12:49] @ulrichard [Is the pinephone also as thick and heavy as the Librem5?], No [12:49] no [12:49] pinephone feels like a normal phone [12:49] And librem like a prototype [12:49] We were comparing pinephone specs to L5 onws as i said im excited to get Ubuntu Touch on my L5 [12:50] No pinephone is normal phone sized [12:51] The Librem5 can be payed with Bitcoin for many years, Pinephone still not. [12:52] Both have pros and cons [12:52] Pine smartly chose a mobile processors vs purism chose more stuff ud see in a laptop such as M.2 slotted removable wifi and modem cards etc [12:53] @jameshjacksonjr [Pine smartly chose a mobile processors vs purism chose more stuff ud see in a la …], But the slotted approach gives you more options to change things, right? [12:53] With librem 5 the cost is funding phosh the ohone shell.so many.pine distros love and ship community distro phonws with [12:54] Lots of pine distros are directly benefiting from the years purism is putting into phosh [12:55] But enough off topic was just saying im glad soon i can load ubuntu touch on my L5 as evergreen batch ships in November [12:56] @jameshjacksonjr [But enough off topic was just saying im glad soon i can load ubuntu touch on my …], I hope you will keep us updated on how you like it and what works / does not work. [12:56] I will deff do that [12:56] @jameshjacksonjr [I will deff do that], 👍 [12:57] @X YZ [But the slotted approach gives you more options to change things, right?], And correct it does im not a my phone has to be thin crowd person [12:59] @just_carlod [And librem like a prototype], correct the final librem device comes in November the current one is their version of a braveheart edition so you are right on that [13:01] I chose to wait for the final batch to receive mine as i wanted a complete hardware to run ubports on [13:02] Havent heard much about how the port is coming along for the L5 has me a lil nervous as that announcement is what made me back the device in first place anyone hear anything about how the port is coming along [13:04] @X YZ [But the slotted approach gives you more options to change things, right?], Wen ETA rtx 3080ti in librem5 [13:18] @jameshjacksonjr [Havent heard much about how the port is coming along for the L5 has me a lil ner …], Well I can just say the relation with Purism was good at the beginning, but since the story with not letting us receive devkits and dev phones to actually port for it, we are a bit more distant. When Pinephone came and we saw how a relat [13:18] ionship can look like we invested our resources there. Work for Pinephone will also give benefits for Librem5, but no one from the core team is working on L5 right now. So dont expect a port that is useable as daily [13:18] Also, Librem5 does not like us using Qt, so that was another item that left us clueless how to deal with it. [13:18] Our whole OS is centered around Qt and its mobile components. [13:18] that's very unfortunate [13:19] [Edit] Also, Purism does not like us using Qt, so that was another item that left us clueless how to deal with it. [13:19] Yes because Qt is not fully FOSS [13:20] @Flohack [Also, Purism does not like us using Qt, so that was another item that left us cl …], I remember that FOSDEM session, but I think it was more of rationale "why they decided to make their own OS" [13:21] i guess they prefer GNOME over others [13:21] @NotKit [I remember that FOSDEM session, but I think it was more of rationale "why they d …], Yes but it was intended that we ship with them as an option among other OSes. And then they dropped this idea. And instead want everyone just to use PureOS. Well its ok, but then please also understand we are not interested anymore [13:21] @RealDanct12 [i guess they prefer GNOME over others], ofc [13:22] but sidenote, i still think purism does make a great job doing what they did with their mobile OS [13:23] I am just trying to explain why the Purism <-> UBports relationship is not there anymore and what that means for an Ubuntu Touch port ;) [13:24] Muhammad Farhan Saleem was added by: Muhammad Farhan Saleem === probono9 is now known as probono [13:30] @RealDanct12 [but sidenote, i still think purism does make a great job doing what they did wit …], mixed impression actually. They are doing a good job keeping it as close to desktop Linux distros as possible and retaining compatibility with existing apps [13:30] but can't imagine using it as daily device in current state [13:31]