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| sorinello | Hello. Where can I see the release notes for Xubuntu 20.10 ? I am looking at https://xubuntu.org/release/20-10/ but cannot see anything | 06:36 |
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| Montresor | https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/20.10/release-notes | 06:38 |
| sorinello | @Montresor, thanks | 06:54 |
| sorinello | I think the release notes should be linked from the link I pasted as well, it is really hard to find the release notes on the wiki | 07:02 |
| sorinello | and I don't think users would expect to have to go to the wiki to see the release notes | 07:02 |
| sorinello | did anyone had issues with the login screen after migrating ? Migrating from 20.04 to 20.10 made my login screen to have black background and the top icons are missing, they show as broken icons | 07:12 |
| xtao | sorinello: yes i have the same thing | 07:55 |
| xtao | assume there must be bug then but you would think they would have tested that | 07:55 |
| Montresor | It really depends on drivers there, but release announcements mention amdgpu. | 07:56 |
| xtao | tried a few things thanks to people helping me last night but not fixed it yet | 07:56 |
| sorinello | Montresor, I have this issue on a VM, so no amd gpu | 07:57 |
| sorinello | at least not that I know of | 07:57 |
| sorinello | Xfce Settings Daemon: Sometimes does not run after logging in, resulting in appearance and configuration issues (1870641) | 07:58 |
| sorinello | I guess this is what I am hitting on my side from the release notes | 07:59 |
| Montresor | Ouch. | 07:59 |
| sorinello | but I have the issue BEFORE the logging screen | 07:59 |
| sorinello | the screen where I have to put the password | 07:59 |
| sorinello | and I am not running on a live session | 08:00 |
| xtao | mine is using intel graphics | 08:03 |
| xtao | yes me too. it works fine after logging in, but the lightdm login screen has broken icons and no wallpaper | 08:04 |
| xtao | so i don't think the user configuration matters here | 08:04 |
| xtao | the wallpaper and icons exist, checked that against the full path from the greeter config, so i think it's actually an issue with displaying them rather than the files not existing. but i can't work out what | 08:05 |
| Montresor | No, it wouldn't. What files does `lightdm-gtk-greeter --help` claim it's reading and what are the contents of said files? | 08:05 |
| xtao | the first four files it mentions do not exist | 08:07 |
| sorinello | I'd like to help you Montresor to debug this, but I am not very familiar with how theseGUI apps work | 08:07 |
| xtao | the last one does and contains what you would expect. paths to the icon theme and wallpaper | 08:07 |
| xtao | which *do* exist | 08:08 |
| Montresor | (I really wish the greeter had something like `lightdm --show-config`) | 08:08 |
| xtao | that's why i think it's not missing files. i think it's a problem with displaying them for some reason. maybe something along the lines of selinux/apparmor etc blocking the ability to read them | 08:08 |
| xtao | not that ubuntu has selinux | 08:08 |
| Montresor | Note that lightdm also uses accountsservice in order to set the background. | 08:09 |
| xtao | what i tried last night with help from this channel was to reinstall lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, lightdm-gtk-greet-settings, and dpg reconfigure them all. tried that several times with nothing helping | 08:09 |
| Montresor | 1. Check /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$USER You could also try dpkg --verify lightdm-gtk-greeter lightdm | 08:11 |
| sorinello | Montresor, but can you confirm our issue ? | 08:12 |
| Montresor | Nope. | 08:12 |
| sorinello | :( | 08:13 |
| sorinello | I tried rm ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml .. it worked only once. next time login screen appeared, it was broken again | 08:14 |
| Montresor | Try setting the wallpaper to one of the defaults. | 08:15 |
| xtao | /var/lib/AccountsService/users/<me> exists dated last night and not this morning | 08:15 |
| xtao | i tried changing the wallpaper and icon theme settings, which does update /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf but it has no effect. same problem | 08:16 |
| sorinello | logging out is enough to trigger the behavior, you don't even need a restart | 08:16 |
| xtao | dpkg --verify shows the only file it is questioning is /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf | 08:17 |
| xtao | but that file is overwritten every time you change the settings, which has no effect | 08:17 |
| sorinello | I compared LightDM GTK+ Grteeter with the one from 20.04 (which is ok, they are the same) | 08:20 |
| sorinello | I set another theme in 20.10, and the theme change works, but the icons are still broken | 08:20 |
| xtao | well i'm glad somebody else has the same problem. it suggests there is a more general problem than just my own laptop. as more users upgrade hopefully one of them can find the problem here :) | 08:21 |
| sorinello | xtao, what Icons do you use in LightDM GTK+ Greeter settings ? | 08:23 |
| xtao | i upgraded from a pretty new install of 20.04.1 which was only about 1 month old and had nothing out of the ordinary installed/configured on it | 08:23 |
| Montresor | My apologies, I don't know lightdm-gtk-greeter or lightdm very well. All else fails, you can check the log in /var/log/lightdm/ for more. | 08:23 |
| xtao | the default ones which was elemental-xfce-dark | 08:23 |
| xtao | when that's selected it deletes the icon line from the config file, if i select another one then the config line gets added but they are still broken | 08:23 |
| * xtao checks the log | 08:23 | |
| xtao | ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): WARNING **: 09:02:55.072: [Background] Failed to read wallpaper: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-focal.png | 08:24 |
| xtao | (lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): Gtk-WARNING **: 09:02:55.143: Could not load a pixbuf from icon theme. | 08:24 |
| xtao | This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be found. | 08:24 |
| xtao | that wallpaper *does* exist | 08:25 |
| sorinello | I tried changing the wallpaper as well, I still get a black screen | 08:25 |
| xtao | yes. i tried that | 08:25 |
| sorinello | in GTK Greeter there is a debugging mode checkbox | 08:26 |
| sorinello | maybe if you enable that you will get more info | 08:26 |
| xtao | it also says "failed to execute command" with at-spi-bus-launcher and upstart | 08:26 |
| sorinello | check t he Misc. tab | 08:26 |
| xtao | oh also this. | 08:26 |
| xtao | ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): WARNING **: 09:02:55.072: [Background] Failed to load background: Failed to load image “/usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-focal.png”: Insufficient memory to load PNG file | 08:26 |
| xtao | it has *plenty* of memory | 08:26 |
| sorinello | this is definetely a bug somewhere | 08:28 |
| xtao | we need more people to upgrade and see if they get the same thing | 08:29 |
| xtao | in the meantime i need some coffee :) | 08:29 |
| sorinello | xtao, I tried putting a background color instead of wallpaper, that seems to work | 08:30 |
| sorinello | still no icons | 08:30 |
| sorinello | changing the position of the password window works as well | 08:31 |
| sorinello | xtao, try setting theme and icons to HighContrast see if the problem persists on your end | 08:38 |
| xtao | have you tried that? | 08:39 |
| sorinello | yes | 08:39 |
| sorinello | no more boken icons | 08:40 |
| xtao | interesting | 08:40 |
| xtao | i'll try that then. hang on | 08:40 |
| Montresor | Could try the audit on elementary-xfce-icon-theme, or simply reinstall it. | 08:40 |
| xtao | ok | 08:41 |
| xtao | yes that fixes it | 08:41 |
| xtao | and the wallpaper is back too | 08:41 |
| xtao | dpkg --verify shows no issues on elementary-xfce-icon-theme | 08:42 |
| xu-irc5w | hello, its possible to install xubuntu using usb? how to do it? | 08:45 |
| xtao | it is yes | 08:50 |
| sorinello | xtao, how can I check what is the issue that after I login, a popup appearts that "system program problem detected" | 08:51 |
| Montresor | Check what's in /var/crash/ | 08:51 |
| xtao | xu-irc5w: download the installer, and then do something like dd if=./installer.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=fdatasync | 08:53 |
| xtao | and then boot the computer holding down whatever key is needed to make it boot from USB, in my case F11 does it | 08:53 |
| xtao | (where sdb is the USB key) | 08:54 |
| sorinello | Montresor, I have one file called: _usr_sbin_lightdm-gtk-greeter.113.crash | 08:54 |
| sorinello | full of characters, no structure. | 08:55 |
| xu-irc5w | ok mate, i wil try | 08:56 |
| xu-irc5w | thanks | 08:56 |
| sorinello | xtao, I have no more ideas. I will not upgrade until this is fixed | 09:04 |
| sorinello | but if you find a workaround, please tell me. maybe even open a bug report | 09:04 |
| xtao | well as it only affects the login screen i don't care so much at the moment. once logged in the experience is fine | 09:04 |
| xtao | and mine isn't crashing at all | 09:04 |
| sorinello | yeah, mine stopped crashing as well. but there is clearly something wrong with the greeter | 09:05 |
| xtao | will just wait and see if others complain | 09:05 |
| xtao | otherwise yes. will raise a bug report. but not right now. need to work :) | 09:05 |
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| xu-help2w | Hi there, I am currently installing xubuntu. I prepare the machine for my friend who is totally blind. Do you know guys what programs are out there helping blind people? I do not have any experience with accessibility programs | 18:10 |
| well_laid_lawn | xu-irc52w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility | 19:22 |
| well_laid_lawn | oops | 19:22 |
| john2342352 | hello! is there any way to get chromium with vaapi support on 20.10 with intel gpu?? Unfortunately snap from candidate/vaapi channel doesn't work anymore. | 21:21 |
| brainwash | john2342352: that sounds like a question for #ubuntu | 21:34 |
| john2342352 | ok thnx | 21:39 |
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