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sorinelloHello. Where can I see the release notes for Xubuntu 20.10 ?  I am looking at https://xubuntu.org/release/20-10/ but cannot see anything06:36
sorinello@Montresor, thanks06:54
sorinelloI think the release notes should be linked from the link I pasted as well, it is really hard to find the release notes on the wiki07:02
sorinelloand I don't think users would expect to have to go to the wiki to see the release notes07:02
sorinellodid anyone had issues with the login screen after migrating ? Migrating from 20.04 to 20.10 made my login screen to have black background and the top icons are missing, they show as broken icons07:12
xtaosorinello: yes i have the same thing07:55
xtaoassume there must be bug then but you would think they would have tested that07:55
MontresorIt really depends on drivers there, but release announcements mention amdgpu.07:56
xtaotried a few things thanks to people helping me last night but not fixed it yet07:56
sorinelloMontresor, I have this issue on a VM, so no amd gpu07:57
sorinelloat least not that I know of07:57
sorinelloXfce Settings Daemon: Sometimes does not run after logging in, resulting in appearance and configuration issues (1870641)07:58
sorinelloI guess this is what I am hitting on my side from the release notes07:59
sorinellobut I have the issue BEFORE the logging screen07:59
sorinellothe screen where I have to put the password07:59
sorinelloand I am not running on a live session08:00
xtaomine is using intel graphics08:03
xtaoyes me too. it works fine after logging in, but the lightdm login screen has broken icons and no wallpaper08:04
xtaoso i don't think the user configuration matters here08:04
xtaothe wallpaper and icons exist, checked that against the full path from the greeter config, so i think it's actually an issue with displaying them rather than the files not existing. but i can't work out what08:05
MontresorNo, it wouldn't.  What files does `lightdm-gtk-greeter --help` claim it's reading and what are the contents of said files?08:05
xtaothe first four files it mentions do not exist08:07
sorinelloI'd like to help you Montresor to debug this, but I am not very familiar with how theseGUI apps work08:07
xtaothe last one does and contains what you would expect. paths to the icon theme and wallpaper08:07
xtaowhich *do* exist08:08
Montresor(I really wish the greeter had something like `lightdm --show-config`)08:08
xtaothat's why i think it's not missing files. i think it's a problem with displaying them for some reason. maybe something along the lines of selinux/apparmor etc blocking the ability to read them08:08
xtaonot that ubuntu has selinux08:08
MontresorNote that lightdm also uses accountsservice in order to set the background.08:09
xtaowhat i tried last night with help from this channel was to reinstall lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, lightdm-gtk-greet-settings, and dpg reconfigure them all. tried that several times with nothing helping08:09
Montresor1. Check /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$USER  You could also try dpkg --verify lightdm-gtk-greeter lightdm08:11
sorinelloMontresor, but can you confirm our issue ?08:12
sorinelloI tried rm ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml .. it worked only once. next time login screen appeared, it was broken again08:14
MontresorTry setting the wallpaper to one of the defaults.08:15
xtao/var/lib/AccountsService/users/<me> exists dated last night and not this morning08:15
xtaoi tried changing the wallpaper and icon theme settings, which does update /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf but it has no effect. same problem08:16
sorinellologging out is enough to trigger the behavior, you don't even need a restart08:16
xtaodpkg --verify shows the only file it is questioning is /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf08:17
xtaobut that file is overwritten every time you change the settings, which has no effect08:17
sorinelloI compared LightDM GTK+  Grteeter with the one from 20.04 (which is ok, they are the same)08:20
sorinelloI set another theme in 20.10, and the theme change works, but the icons are still broken08:20
xtaowell i'm glad somebody else has the same problem. it suggests there is a more general problem than just my own laptop. as more users upgrade hopefully one of them can find the problem here :)08:21
sorinelloxtao, what Icons do you use in LightDM GTK+ Greeter settings ?08:23
xtaoi upgraded from a pretty new install of 20.04.1 which was only about 1 month old and had nothing out of the ordinary installed/configured on it08:23
MontresorMy apologies, I don't know lightdm-gtk-greeter or lightdm very well.  All else fails, you can check the log in /var/log/lightdm/ for more.08:23
xtaothe default ones which was elemental-xfce-dark08:23
xtaowhen that's selected it deletes the icon line from the config file, if i select another one then the config line gets added but they are still broken08:23
* xtao checks the log08:23
xtao** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): WARNING **: 09:02:55.072: [Background] Failed to read wallpaper: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-focal.png08:24
xtao(lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): Gtk-WARNING **: 09:02:55.143: Could not load a pixbuf from icon theme.08:24
xtaoThis may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be found.08:24
xtaothat wallpaper *does* exist08:25
sorinelloI tried changing the wallpaper as well, I still get a black screen08:25
xtaoyes. i tried that08:25
sorinelloin GTK Greeter there is a debugging mode checkbox08:26
sorinellomaybe if you enable that you will get more info08:26
xtaoit also says "failed to execute command" with at-spi-bus-launcher and upstart08:26
sorinellocheck t he Misc. tab08:26
xtaooh also this.08:26
xtao** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:1245): WARNING **: 09:02:55.072: [Background] Failed to load background: Failed to load image “/usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-focal.png”: Insufficient memory to load PNG file08:26
xtaoit has *plenty* of memory08:26
sorinellothis is definetely a bug somewhere08:28
xtaowe need more people to upgrade and see if they get the same thing08:29
xtaoin the meantime i need some coffee :)08:29
sorinelloxtao, I tried putting a background color instead of wallpaper, that seems to work08:30
sorinellostill no icons08:30
sorinellochanging the position of the password window works as well08:31
sorinelloxtao, try setting theme and icons to HighContrast see if the problem persists on your end08:38
xtaohave you tried that?08:39
sorinellono more boken icons08:40
xtaoi'll try that then. hang on08:40
MontresorCould try the audit on elementary-xfce-icon-theme, or simply reinstall it.08:40
xtaoyes that fixes it08:41
xtaoand the wallpaper is back too08:41
xtaodpkg --verify shows no issues on elementary-xfce-icon-theme08:42
xu-irc5whello, its possible to install xubuntu using usb? how to do it?08:45
xtaoit is yes08:50
sorinelloxtao, how can I check what is the issue that after I login, a popup appearts that "system program problem detected"08:51
MontresorCheck what's in /var/crash/08:51
xtaoxu-irc5w: download the installer, and then do something like dd if=./installer.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=fdatasync08:53
xtaoand then boot the computer holding down whatever key is needed to make it boot from USB, in my case F11 does it08:53
xtao(where sdb is the USB key)08:54
sorinelloMontresor, I have one file called: _usr_sbin_lightdm-gtk-greeter.113.crash08:54
sorinellofull of characters, no structure.08:55
xu-irc5wok mate, i wil try08:56
sorinelloxtao, I have no more ideas. I will not upgrade until this is fixed09:04
sorinellobut if you find a workaround, please tell me. maybe even open a bug report09:04
xtaowell as it only affects the login screen i don't care so much at the moment. once logged in the experience is fine09:04
xtaoand mine isn't crashing at all09:04
sorinelloyeah, mine stopped crashing as well. but there is clearly something wrong with the greeter09:05
xtaowill just wait and see if others complain09:05
xtaootherwise yes. will raise a bug report. but not right now. need to work :)09:05
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xu-help2wHi there, I am currently installing xubuntu. I prepare the machine for my friend who is totally blind. Do you know guys what programs are out there helping blind people? I do not have any experience with accessibility programs18:10
well_laid_lawnxu-irc52w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility19:22
john2342352hello! is there any way to get chromium with vaapi support on 20.10 with intel gpu?? Unfortunately snap from candidate/vaapi channel doesn't work anymore.21:21
brainwashjohn2342352: that sounds like a question for #ubuntu21:34
john2342352ok thnx21:39

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