[00:12] hmm, Sbur3 seems to be gone for good. I'll head to bed as well. If they return, please tell them they should be good to upgrade, after backup. [00:13] do i need to use this in my bashrc [ export GPG_TTY=$(tty) ] to be able to use gpg? === Napsterbater is now known as Guest66672 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [00:18] Matrox: I think I've heard that is very handy if you're doing gpg operations on remote hosts === aqu_ is now known as aqu [00:38] finally I was able to observe my Ubuntu focal's wifi issue while it happened. :-) https://paste.debian.net/plainh/d5bda9f7 It seems to not be an actual wifi issue, because connectivity is immediately restored when I run "sudo ifconfig wlxe894f6XXXXXX 192.168.1.5/24". Is there an easy way to make NetworkManager do that for me automatically? or is there a way to avoid the disappearance of the IPv4 address in the first place? [00:45] Sven_vB: you can set it in netplan [00:45] Sven_vB: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-configure-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu-18-04/ [00:47] ApOgEE, there's currently a static IP in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/wifi.ini that NM correctly applies when I (re)start NM. do you mean NM might apply the netplan IP in a situation where it doesn't apply its own config? [00:58] Do you ever run anything other than LTS on a server? [01:00] Hallcyon: sure, the decision of what to run is more individual than a clear proscription [01:00] only if I have to [01:01] 20.10 has official support for raspberry pi's, should I upgrade those from the current 20.04 lts, would that make sense for a wireguard server? [01:01] I will keen my KVM hosts running 20.04 [01:02] Hallcyon: I understand eg microk8s isn't supported or isn't built for 20.10 or something similar to that [01:03] Hallcyon, what would be your motivation to upgrade? [01:03] oh, actually, thanks for the idea. I've got an rpi3b+ that's on 20.04 at the moment, and the one application I run on it throws some C++ warnings while building it... [01:03] it *might* be a toolchain problem, and upgrading the machine would get a new toolchain pretty quick :) [01:04] Sven_vB https://liliputing.com/2020/10/ubuntu-20-10-released-and-its-the-first-version-with-full-raspberry-pi-support.html and a newer kernel so maybe backporting wg isn't required? [01:05] Hallcyon: it's the first version with the full desktop. There's been an official server version for a while now. [01:05] ah I see. [01:05] Hallcyon, oh ok. before I didn't gather that 20.04 isn't officially supported [01:05] I guess I will stick with 20.04 [01:05] Hallcyon: https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi [01:06] Sven_vB: it is [01:06] leftyfb, thanks! === zbenjamin is now known as Guest39042 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:11] hmm. no one knows about my AMI question anywhere... === zbenjamin is now known as Guest26092 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === tdannecy7 is now known as tdannecy [02:37] why did ubuntu suddenly stopped recognizing my host? [02:38] it modified the /etc/hosts file all on its own === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly === jess-o-lantern is now known as jess [07:40] hey can anybody help me increase my swap space? [07:41] sure, your choices are swap file or swap partition [07:41] DrNostril: what's the output of 'swapon -s' [07:43] one moment [07:44] no output as i am on a livedisk [07:44] https://termbin.com/msjp [07:44] maybe that will give an idea [07:44] the target is made with LVM and is encrypted [07:44] THANK YOU eric [07:45] DrNostril: i'd just make a swap file then [07:45] im worried about ruining my main partition when i resize it [07:45] DrNostril: yeah, no need to resize [07:45] wait so i can just make a file within the main partition to use as swap? [07:46] DrNostril: how much bigger do you want the swap? [07:46] yesh [07:46] *yes [07:46] at least 8GB i think [07:46] maybe less is more :p [07:46] type "sudo fallocate -l 8G /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile" [07:46] im trying to run a windows OS in vmware, and it suggests that i need more swap for vmware [07:47] so with 64 GB of ram, i'm a bit confused [07:47] i feel that i shouldn't need it as i do not use hibernate [07:47] yeah, i think so too [07:48] would it be better to do this after logging into the hardware-native system? [07:48] DrNostril: doesnt really make any difference [07:49] okay then one last question..... how do I notify my system that this swapfile exists? [07:49] swapon .../swapfile ? [07:49] fstab so its permanent, did you run the fallocate command? [07:49] first run mkswap on it, too [07:51] yes i did [07:51] DrNostril: ok, type "sudo chmod 600 /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile" [07:51] i ran fallocate, did not touch fstab yet [07:51] then "sudo mkswap /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile/media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile" [07:52] okay chmoded [07:52] finally add a new line with "/swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0" to /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile/media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/etc/fstab" [07:52] mkswap: cannot open /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile/media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile: Not a directory [07:53] ffffff [07:53] * to /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/etc/fstab [07:53] sorry typo [07:53] oops i saw as soon as i pasted [07:53] sudo mkswap /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile [07:54] then add "/swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0" to to /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/etc/fstab and you're done [07:54] mkswap: invalid block count argument: '/media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/etc/fstab' [07:54] DrNostril: sudo mkswap /media/mint/782c5c8f-994f-4f2b-a9d7-f9a2f8c76bb3/swapfile [07:55] Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 8 GiB (8589930496 bytes) [07:55] no label, UUID=2f65ca2b-0074-4fa5-b8a9-8090e86abfc5 [07:55] nice [07:55] you rock [07:56] okay im editing fstab [07:57] should i leave the current swap entry in place? [07:57] just add another line? [07:59] i might add that this fstab entry does not look like the others........ [08:01] well..... here goes nothing..... i guess i reboot x| [08:07] Eric you still around? [08:08] DrNostril: sorry back [08:08] DrNostril: yeah leave the current swap line and add a new line with /swapfile ... [08:18] i booted and everything worked great [08:18] i modified your fstab line a little bit [08:18] thanks a bundle [08:18] DrNostril: great, no problem [08:19] eric what's your favorite stuff to work on? why you here? [08:37] hi, one of the nice features of Ubuntu is dark mode But I noticed that Ubuntu help guide is white backround unless you change to "all Help" then its dark. can this be made permenant? [08:38] ok is it a bug? [08:53] Hello, I try to format my SD card with "disks", but it tells me "failed to probe the device mmcblk0 error-quark, 0. Any ideas? [08:54] try gparted it worked for me [08:54] didn't work. Gave me hundreds of popup errors in a loop [08:56] download Raspberry Pi Imager and try to erase the SD card with that [08:56] after you insert the drive in files an you right click and choose format? [09:00] xBfrog, what do you mean with "insert the drive in files"? [09:01] can you insert the drive in usb port? [09:01] or in a sd port? [09:02] sd port [09:02] ok then use files to see the drive and right click on it. do you get a format option? [09:02] xBfrog, I guess you mean nautilus? [09:03] where ever you can see your files [09:03] drive doesn't appear in nautilus [09:03] also not in thunar [09:03] it's not mounted, I guess [09:04] i dunno either [09:05] is gio trash a ubuntu specific application? is there something amongst gio trash, trash-cli, gvfs-trash that is ubiquitous in all distros? [09:06] gio is part of gnome, so it's not specific to ubuntu, but I'm not sure it would be right to say it's ubiquitous to everything [09:06] I think there's a freedesktop spec for trash, so it should be more-or-less universal [09:06] (except for people who use twm and rm -rf and don't care for all the new-fangled desktop thingys) [09:07] Normally you don't need to do anything special. Could you update the question to include the version of Ubuntu you're using? Also, you can open a terminal (ctrl-alt-t), type "tail -f /var/log/syslog", insert an SD card, and see what messages pop up. If you don't know what they mean you could paste the lines that appear when you insert the SD card in your question too. [09:10] for multiple lines it is recommended to use a paste site [09:15] yes true, pastbin.com works well [09:15] *pastebin [09:17] xBfrog: see the topic in the channel. use ubuntu's paste site, pastebin is riddled with ads. [09:19] xBfrog: this; https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [09:19] ok thanks, i've never had issues but ok [09:19] Deano59: not if you use a proper ad blocker but i agree that https://paste.ubuntu.com/ is the way to go :) [09:20] Maik: shouldn't have to use an ad-blocker but k. [09:20] i guess thats it then, i have adblockers [09:25] eh pastebin dot com is annoying even with adblockers [09:26] it also mangles whitespace in some circumstances [09:26] mgedmin: indeed. [09:45] morning guys :) was wondering if anyone has got ubuntu 20.10 running in virtualbox already [09:46] the guest additions don't seem to play nicely on groovy gorilla [09:46] what would i use to create the initrd for a manually compiled kernel ? [09:52] k, update-initramfs [09:54] Toxic_Waste: virtualbox as distributed by ubuntu? [09:54] Toxic_Waste: if not, head over to #vbox [09:54] fair point, I suppose that is more a vbox thing :) [09:58] Hey there, trying to install the newest ubuntu 20.10 on my laptop, which has an nvidia rtx 2070, sporting dual external monitors, one via display port, one via hdmi. Prior to this version, worked out the box fine. Now, when booting, I get EXTREME lag, can barely move the mouse, click on things, etc. [10:00] disconnecting the dual monitors, lets the OS function fine, but as soon as I reconnect, back to extreme lag. [11:05] I have a user on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, he destrroyed the system (with an apt autoremove). He forgot the root password, the password he his giving me for him is not working, he tells me he used that password all the time and he seems to be confident the password should work [11:15] dka: what's your objective? recover access to the pc? [11:23] yes [11:23] EriC^^, we are trying password over and over, I am 100% with the username as he saved some log in his usb backup drive and I can see the username being "alexander" [11:24] He never wrote the password anywhere, he says the password he use, but I have tried it with root user and alexander, both didn't work [11:24] he does not have the live cd, he has one, but he gave me one from debian, tought it is obvious it is not debian running here but Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS [11:24] I am downloading the Ubuntu iso so I'll make another USB drive, i'll probably try to chroot [11:25] There's no grub boot loader, instead there's a splash screen [11:25] I personnally use debian, how can I access the grub boot loader instead of the splash screen ? [11:27] I was able using ESC to access the Grub Boot Loader. Can I recover the access for this computer? [11:28] the older kernel is stuck on "Loading initial ramdisk" [11:28] dka: hold shift to get grub [11:30] dka: if he hasnt set an actual root password, just his username password, then you can go to advanced > recovery and from there you can press on "drop to root shell" and type "mount -o remount,rw /" and then do "passwd alexander" to change his password [11:30] Hi all [11:32] dka: if he's set an actual root password, then you can boot to a shell by adding "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" to the linux /boot/vmlinuz....., after pressing "e" in grub to edit the Ubuntu entry and pressing F10 to boot the edited entry [11:32] I finally recovered the user password and root password [11:33] he was giving me a wrong username from a wrong old from a wrong computer, such missleading informations... [11:47] Hi, I am trying to make systemd-boot use shim. has anyone done this successfully? If yes, can you share your layout of /boot? I have my ESP mounted at /boot [11:58] Hello. I wonder why is the highly praised software "GNU PSPP" has been removed from the official repositories. I'm having trouble installing it on 20.04. [12:07] Metamorphosis, pspp is in the 20.10 universe repos [12:12] BluesKaj Oh? Didn't knew that. What can I do? I'm on Kubuntu 20.04 and I don't really want to upgrade at the moment. [12:27] Metamorphosis, check this, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1234137/why-is-the-pspp-program-not-present-in-the-ubuntu-20-04-lts-focal-fossa-reposito [12:36] maybe there's a ppa? [12:48] The computer screen flickers occasionally after installing Ubuntu 20.04 for Mac RRO. [12:49] What should I do with it? [12:53] Hi, I've installed both ubuntu and win 10. But I didn't manage to encrypt "ubuntu's drive" during installation. What is the propper way to encrypt it after installation? [12:56] ttytwister: ideally, you'll do it during installation. it's quite involved and error prone later on. see the cryptsetup-reencrypt man page. [12:57] ttytwister: just re-install again but this time encrypt the drive, less hassle. [12:57] Deano59, it is easy (and I always do so) when you install ubuntu only [12:58] right, it won't work (using just the GUI) for a desktop installation which shares a drive with windows. [12:58] do it through the install instead of trying *after* less hassle. [12:59] I need two OS and one of them encrypted :) So, you say it is not possible during installation? [13:00] at least that's what i seem to remember. i duggest you double-check, I don't mean to spread FUD. [13:00] * suggest [13:01] I'm sure it should work if you install Ubuntu to a different physical storage. [13:05] Hi, I am trying to make systemd-boot use shim. has anyone done this successfully? If yes, can you share your layout of /boot? I have my ESP mounted at /boot [13:05] pop os is not supported here [13:12] <][o4|-o_5o_PYcki> \ (•◡•) [13:15] tomreyn, well, it is exactly my case. I want to install to different hard drive. But when I choose to install along with win 10, encryption is not offered [13:20] ttytwister: i assume your windows installation is configured for uefi boot mode. if you'll install ubuntu the same way, to a separate storage, without choosing to install side by side with windows, but with encryption, i would assume you will be able to boot either. [13:23] tomreyn, in this case, should win 10 hard drive be connected during installation? [13:23] or it is not necessary? [13:27] ttytwister: yes, needed, because it'll contain the efi system partition which both windows' and ubuntu's boot loaders need to be placed on. [13:28] you could also copy it later, though, if you want to prevent windows' being overwritten (i don't expect that to happen, though) [13:29] There is nothing important there on windows hard drive. So I can experiment [13:29] So, at installation type page, I should choose "Something else" right? [13:30] what are you installing? [13:30] ubuntu [13:30] 20 [13:30] !YY.mm | ttytwister [13:30] ttytwister: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [13:30] 20.04 [13:31] server? desktop? some other flavor? [13:31] desktop [13:31] glad we got all the basic info gathered. [13:31] then yes. [13:31] can you guide me? [13:32] select advanced when it asks you about partitioning [13:32] done [13:32] then encryption [13:32] no [13:33] wait a sec [13:33] i like the idea of putting the efi partition on the ubuntu hdd so that it's a standalone install, not dependent on the windows hdd to boot [13:33] I've chosen "something else". At next page I can see my hard disks [13:34] I haven't installed both OS before [13:34] EriC^^: are there mainboards which can handle more than one ESP? [13:35] ttytwister: "something else" was wrong then, take a step back [13:35] i'll have a look at the screens, give me a minute [13:35] tomreyn: i dont think there's a limit on the efi partition in the uefi entry to have the same partuuid in all entries there [13:36] tomreyn, ok, Im on prev page. 3 options: 1. Install ubuntu alongside win 10. 2. Erase disk and install ubuntu (Warning: this will delete blah-blah...) and button Advance features. 3. Something else [13:37] EriC^^: hmm, nice idea. but i guess this means you'll need to update the second ESP to match the ID of the first, right? [13:37] it should be fine i guess, never seen any complain, but havent seen so much i guess [13:37] if I choose 2 option, I don't what disk it is going to erase [13:38] tomreyn: nope, just install to 2nd hdd as usual, it'll add the entry in the uefi list to grub's efi file, and ubuntu's grub will pick up the bootmgfw.efi on the windows efi [13:38] *don't know [13:38] what's the package name for lxqt themes?? [13:38] *not lubuntu* [13:39] tomreyn: the board doesnt really have a efi designated kinda thing, just a list of stuff like this for instance, Boot0000* ubuntu HD(1,GPT,472ed800-a2c2-4f94-bbb0-85207dba31f3,0x800,0x96000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi) [13:40] the hex stuff is the PARTUUID, i guess that's how it knows what to mount and look for /File.... and just boot it [13:40] nvm [13:40] :D [13:41] ttytwister: i think it would erase windows [13:41] EriC^^: hmm, nice idea, i hadn't though of this approach. [13:41] EriC^^, I do think so too. So what should I do :( [13:41] ttytwister: I guess you're better off following EriC^^'s suggestion [13:42] ttytwister: either manually partition, the easier thing would be to just remove the windows hdd and let it do its thing [13:42] after its done plug in the windows hdd, boot into ubuntu, and run 'sudo update-grub' windows should be in grub now [13:44] hey am i registered [13:45] ttytwister: however it's important you make sure ubuntu is booted in uefi mode, it's easy to check if you can get a shell and run 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' before starting the actual installer [13:45] Veltum: you must be. this channel is cmode +r. [13:45] EriC^^, [13:45] ok [13:46] EriC^^, can't I see it in BIOS? [13:47] hey again [13:47] NIKOFIGOXX: for irc help, please /join #freenode [13:51] EriC^^, so, what output should it give? === NIKOFIGOXX is now known as Vortem [13:51] I can several folders and files [13:51] *can see === Vortem is now known as Voltum [13:53] yo [13:53] I have this installed: linux-image-5.9-rpi-lobo-arm64 is already the newest version (5.9.1~lobo-arm64+) but when I check uname -a: Linux ayescott89-desktop 5.8.0-1006-raspi #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 16 12:55:30 UTC 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux -- why is that? [13:53] my irc so broken [13:53] any good client to try? [13:53] irssi or weechat [13:53] Voltum, I use hexchat [13:54] mirc ? [13:54] I use weechat. :D [13:54] mirc used to be good [13:54] anyone know how to change it? [13:54] mirc is a windows client [13:55] we used to use mirc before 12 years [13:55] hexchat is good on gnome or kde/plasma desktops [13:55] i thought it was the first irc client [13:57] can you guys to to /join #ubuntu-offtopic [13:58] Deano59: linux-image-5.9-rpi-lobo-arm64 is not an ubuntu kernel image, the kernel you're now probably is one, though. [13:58] tomreyn: yeah but it's defaulting to the ubuntu one and I want to know why. the other kernel is installed and up to date... [14:01] am I missing something, tomreyn? [14:01] :D [14:02] Deano59: it's probably a matter of file names in /boot [14:11] EriC^^, 'sudo update-grub' didn't help [14:13] tomreyn: Ignoring old or unknown version 5.9.1~lobo-arm64+ (latest is 5.8.0-1006-raspi) [14:13] how can I force it? [14:15] Deano59, the kernel that gets loaded (along with initrd, etc.) is the one installed to the boot partition; that's copied there from its installed location by the "flash-kernel" tool - you can try running "sudo flash-kernel" too see whether it notices the new kernel [14:16] however, my guess is it won't because it's the wrong "flavor" - on the Pi it expects kernels to have the "-raspi" (or historically "-raspi2") suffix. You can override this by adding an "overlay" entry to the flash-kernel database [14:16] (let me just go check something as it's been a while since I messed around with flash-kernel's innards) [14:17] waveform: yeah it doesn't show the kernel :( [14:17] it flashes 5.8 [14:17] right, under /usr/share/flash-kernel/db/ you'll find "all.db" which is flash-kernel's "database" (it's just a text file) [14:18] yeah [14:18] see it [14:18] open that in $your_text_editor and have a look for the "Raspberry Pi 4" entry [14:19] found it. [14:19] Kernel-Flavors: raspi [14:19] Deano59: why do you need linux-image-5.9-rpi-lobo-arm64 (unsupported)? [14:19] you want to copy that chunk to /etc/flash-kernel/db (which is the local-administrator controlled file which overrides flash-kernel's built-in one) [14:19] and once you've copied it, you've probably guessed already, just delete that "Kernel-Flavors" line [14:20] waveform: copy all the pi4 lines? [14:20] yup [14:20] that whole block [14:20] (delimited by blank lines)) [14:20] Deano59: why do you need linux-image-5.9-rpi-lobo-arm64? [14:22] delete the line from where waveform ? [14:22] > /usr/share? [14:22] no, in the /etc copy [14:22] that /etc one overrides the /usr/share one [14:22] there's nothing in the etc one :/ [14:23] Deano59: why do you need linux-image-5.9-rpi-lobo-arm64? [14:23] leftyfb: please stop. [14:23] Deano59: please answer [14:23] yes, you need to copy the raspberry pi model 4 block to the /etc one, then delete the kernel-flavors line from the /etc one [14:24] oh :P [14:24] it's still doing the old kernel [14:25] in that case the new kernel may not be installed in the places flash-kernel expects to find it [14:25] I added them db files to locations it said it was missing [14:25] waveform: this is a lot of effort to support installing an unsupported kernel on a platform with it's own support channel to someone who refuses to explain why they need it in the first place [14:27] leftyfb, I wouldn't call a single entry in an /etc config file a "huge" effort (assuming it worked), and it's also pretty trivial to rollback (remove the override, re-run flash-kernel). I'll admit I'm curious as to why someone might want a later kernel, but I can think of plenty of legitimate reasons one might - doesn't seem like an obvious X/Y problem to me? [14:29] waveform: this is in etc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tzHynDsGzp/ [14:31] * mgedmin is curious if the rpi becomes bricked if you flash the wrong kernel and how hard it is to recover [14:31] mgedmin: if this works (which I hope it does) it *will* benefit other rpi4 users. [14:32] Deano59, yup - that's fine - if it's not working then as mentioned above it's likely that f-k isn't finding your kernel, which probably means it isn't installed in the places it expects to look - at this point I'd say if you *really* want to stick with it you still want to have f-k work (because it's the "right" way to do this and offers an easy recovery mechanism, but you'll need to read /us/share/flash-kernel/functions to figure it out [14:32] mgedmin, in this case "flash" really is a misnomer - it's just copying stuff to the boot partition [14:33] which is just a FAT partition; furthermore when it overwrites a file it always places a .bak next to it so, at worst, recovery is just "copy the .baks over the originals" [14:34] (however, personally I loathe that mechanism - would much rather have separate dirs for old / new state so switching becomes near-atomic - it's on my todo list, but it means a lot of changes to the boot setup) [14:34] ttytwister: ? [14:35] did you install ubuntu and plug back the windows drive? [14:46] win 12 [14:48] I did wanted to upgrade skypeforlinux ubuntu, and it offered me to do apt auto remove [14:48] since, I am not able to boot, but I have access to the console with terminal [14:48] what's the current correct way to mount an image to a loopback device upon boot in ubuntu? (well rpi os) [14:49] sunrunner20: please join #raspberrypi for support with rpi os [14:49] all I can find is a pre systemd SO post [14:50] its going to be the same [14:51] sunrunner20: rpi os is based on debian and has nothing to do with Ubuntu. We can only support Ubuntu here. Not other OS's. [14:51] sunrunner20: there's no reason you can't join the support channel for the OS you're running and ask for support with it there === al2o3-cr is now known as Guest39806 === al2o3-cr-tmp is now known as al2o3-cr [15:39] i've updated and now lightdm fails to start, what to do? [15:40] i have to login manually and use startx (and sound does not work that way) [15:49] Hi [15:50] What can I do if, I get Dummy Output in Sound settings? [15:52] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting [15:53] waveform: how long does the server image take to boot? [15:54] I am not using PulseAudio [15:55] Deano59, on a pi4 it's pretty quick (usually sub 1-minute, though there's wide variation in SD card quality), but the first time boot you do have to wait a good minute (sometimes a bit more) for cloud-init to do its thing, and snapd's pre-seeding takes up a fair bit of IO bandwidth. Obviously those are one-time things though [15:57] waveform: yeah weird thing is happening, I'm stuck at it trying to configure cloud init, shows the ubuntu loading screen and repeat. Usb boot. [15:57] Also as a reminder [15:57] I want to use 5.1 (DTS) on this machine, not sure if possible? [15:57] Keeps saying a load of lines saying okay then back to the ubuntu loading screen for a second and that's all it does lol waveform [15:58] Deano59, this is the groovy server image? (I've been so focused on desktop I don't think I've booted a server image with a screen attached for weeks - didn't realize we even had a loading screen!) [15:59] Yeah server image [15:59] hmm, okay - let me find a spare drive here and see if I can replicate... [15:59] Keeps saying a load of lines with okay and back to a purple loading screen and that's all it does xD [16:01] Anyone use advanced features zfs on the install [16:01] Of Ubuntu 20.10 [16:02] No. [16:02] So I guess noone is into DTS who uses Ubuntu? [16:02] what's DTS? [16:02] audio codec [16:02] Should I use zfs on 20.10 or overlay FS for read only root [16:03] Digital Audio [16:03] waveform: where do you want this video uploaded to of what's happening [16:04] Imgur? [16:05] Deano59, no need - I've got a spare drive here - I'll try and replicate it once it's flashed [16:05] Am I right in assuming this is basically a fresh flash and you're running it on a pi4? (just want to be sure I'm replicating the same hardware) [16:06] Yeah fresh flash with the server image with rpis imager [16:06] https://streamable.com/hbuv4t [16:06] audio worked for a while, but once I followed some guides on Google to get DTS working it caused the issue [16:06] but DTS didnt't work just to inform you [16:06] only stereo sound [16:07] waveform: video above explains it :) [16:07] Usb boot if that matters [16:07] hi all, my new aptxHD capable headphones are cutting out when paired to my laptop. (im using 20.10, new laptop). im suspecting that its because aptxHD codec isnt supported out of the box by 20.10. any pointers? [16:07] September 3rd eeprom [16:08] Desktop image is fine, weird. [16:09] Yeah desktop is fine just not the server image [16:10] Deano59, huh - yup - I'm seeing the same [16:12] well, this definitely warrants an issue [16:12] Happening to you also? [16:12] XD [16:13] yup - going to grab a serial console and see if I can figure this out (console's enabled by default on server) [16:13] Nice :) [16:13] I'm not alone!!! XD [16:14] oh hang on ... [16:15] Hang on? Figured out why? [16:15] ha! got it! I shall now make a prediction: you're on a pi4 and you've got a pimoroni fan-shim installed :) [16:15] Yep [16:16] How did you know?? [16:16] You have to? [16:16] the fan-shim "abuses" the serial pins and basically fires garbage down them all the time; two options: remove the fan-shim or disable the serial console [16:16] What's the fix lol xD [16:16] How can I disable it? [16:16] I like the fan lol [16:17] in config.txt on the boot partition, change enable_uart to 0 [16:17] Thanks! [16:17] Gonna try now [16:18] argh, I had that in the release notes on focal and forgot about it on groovy because on the desktop we disabled the serial console precisely because I anticipated *loads* of people using the desktop would have a fan-shim [16:18] Pls someone :D [16:23] Thanks waveform [16:23] :)))) [16:27] Hi, I have a minor issue that Ubuntu (and probably other distros) turns into a disaster. I suspect the fix would be a one-liner or so, but I just can't find where that would be. [16:28] Basically, there's an issue with my battery where it sometimes stops reporting its charge. [16:29] As in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/ stops existing for a brief moment [16:29] That normally wouldn't cause any problem *except* that some daemon somewhere decides that it means my battery is critically low and the system has to be shutdown immediately [16:30] Anyone knows which of the many interacting pieces of software is responsible for making that decision? [16:30] hmm, upower? [16:31] That was my first bet, so I cloned that, but all I can see is layers of redirection and I've been unable to find where that decision is taking place [16:31] So either I missed it (totally possible) or upower is just somehow propagating values from somewhere else [16:32] I see a bunch of options in /etc/UPower/UPower.conf that hint that it is upower making these decisions [16:33] hey can you check the journal of the previous boot to see why the laptop went into shutdown? [16:33] journalctl -b -1 -e [16:38] OK, all I can really see is: systemd-logind[966]: System is powering down. [16:39] which I realize isn't quite informative [16:43] ok.. [16:44] OK, so I see something around UP_DEVICE_LEVEL_ACTION. I assume that "action" here means shutdown, right? [16:44] In upower/src/up-daemon.c [16:56] :( really noone had issues with intel HDA? [17:02] !audio | sqpp: this is a bit dated, but many of the debugging approaches still apply [17:02] sqpp: this is a bit dated, but many of the debugging approaches still apply: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [17:03] hi, does a package get updates when the app is installed through snap ? [17:05] TR2990WX: i whoever published the snap pushes updates, yes, otherwise, no [17:07] TR2990WX: yes [17:07] TR2990WX: you can see what apps were automatically updated when with snap changes [17:07] and you can see what apps have available updates with snap refresh --list [17:08] and you can ask all snaps to update right now with sudo snap refresh, but normally that happens automatically in the background [17:08] (except when a snap-ified application is running, that pauses updates for that app for up to 7 days) [17:09] This didnt help [17:17] I just still getting Dummy Output [17:17] :( [17:28] Sysinfo for 'legion5': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.20.1 on KDE neon 5.20 powered by Linux 5.4.0-52-generic, CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H with Radeon Graphics at 1276-1676/2900 MHz, RAM: 4970/15370 MB, Storage: 6/916 GB, 333 procs, 0.52h up === xtao_ is now known as xtao [17:40] TR2990WX: show off. :P [17:41] Is there a bug in the latest nvidia driver with the latest kernal on Ubuntu 20.10? 20.04 worked fine, doing a fresh install of 20.10 external monitor support seems broken. Getting EXTREME lag with the desktop, can barely move the mouse, or click on anything. One display is Display port connected, the other is HDMI. Disconnecting both, then using [17:41] the laptops display, it seems to function proper. [17:44] waveform: just a fyi.... I couldn't get that kernel flashed :( gave up and went ahead and installed the server image :) no more gnome! also, not sure if you actually know or not but kms doesn't work. I just get a blinking cursor. fkms works just fine, though. :) [17:46]