[00:53] <stevecoh1> OK, I've somehow screwed myself.  I was trying to change the hostname of my computer, which I think I did correctly.  I have set up a static ip network connection with my router and this was working before I changed hostname.  Now I cannot connect to router.  The only way I'm connecting here is via my iphone hotspot.  When attempting to edit network connection using network setup app, all the settings are greyed out and I can no
[00:53] <stevecoh1> longer make changes.  What the h did I do and how do I fix it.
[00:55] <stevecoh1> hello?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> !patience | stevecoh1
[00:58] <oerheks1> !hostname
[00:58] <oerheks1> check if you *did* do it correctly
[00:58] <oerheks1> else, flush the leases in your router?
[01:01] <stevecoh1> Wow, I've screwed this up so totally.  I edited /etc/hosts and simply deleted the old hostname which I no longer remember.  Grrr.  So, Flush the leases in my router?  How do I do that?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> stevecoh1: ^^ another thought - a server ? is the file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg a factor ?
[01:01] <oerheks1> stevecoh1, so,.. you did it not in 2 places.
[01:02] <stevecoh1> Bashing-om: I don't think so.
[01:03] <stevecoh1> oerhoeks1:  Actually, no, I did make the same change in both /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[01:03] <Bashing-om> stevecoh1: does the file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg exists to remove the "think so" - good to always be sure :D the /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are fixable.
[01:03] <geosmileus> is youtube down? I cant seem to play anything on youtube
[01:03] <stevecoh1> But did not retain the old name.
[01:04] <oerheks1> geosmileus, there are sites to check that
[01:04] <Bashing-om> stevecoh1: Is OK not to . lemme paste my files for ya.
[01:05] <stevecoh1> $ ls -l /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg
[01:05] <stevecoh1> ls: cannot access '/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg': No such file or directory
[01:06] <stevecoh1> so I think I have to do this lease flushing thing but have no idea how to do that.
[01:07] <guiverc> remind me please, what can I `cat` to show install date
[01:08] <oerheks1> ls -lt /var/log/installer
[01:08] <oerheks1> or the (mtime) of a file that was created during the installation and is unlikely to have been modified since. A good candidate is /etc/hostname; other candidates are /etc/hosts, /etc/papersize, /etc/popularity-contest.conf.
[01:09] <guiverc> thanks oerheks1 :)  you confirmed what I suspected (from directory timestamps)  appreciated :)
[01:10] <Bashing-om> stevecoh1: My files for comparison to yours: https://termbin.com/9job ; https://termbin.com/d8wa .
[01:10] <oerheks1> creation of the folder /mnt/ is more secure
[01:12] <stevecoh1> oerhoeks1: can you provide more detail on your suggestion for flushing the leases?
[01:15] <oerheks1> That depends on your router, dunno
[01:51] <devslash> is there a way to mount google drive as a mount path in linux on a computer without a UI ?
[01:53] <kgzs> @devslash rclone and FUSE could likely achieve that
[01:54] <devslash> rclone doesnt work
[01:54] <devslash> i got an error on googles side trying to authenticate it
[01:54] <kgzs> Did you create an app specific password?
[01:54] <devslash> no it doesnt use one
[01:55] <devslash> it opens up a link where you authenticate the app when already logged in
[01:56] <DumbName> I can run systemctl --host username@192.168.1.42 status servicename then enter the password and I get the status of servicename on a remote host, I can also stop/start/etc....
[01:56] <DumbName> to include the password too, which this being an internal network isn't an issue for security.
[02:23] <_jak> hey y'all! I'm running a script in a udev rule, and I need to see the output from `xinput list`: I've tried using my non-root users XAUTHORITY file, and I've tried setting DISPLAY to ":0" but I'm still seeing an empty list
[02:23] <_jak> can anyone intuit what the problem is?
[02:40] <isapgswell> hi everyone
[02:40] <isapgswell> i tested profile nvidia on demand and nouveau driver this occur both
[02:40] <isapgswell> bad support external monitor (hdmi)
[02:40] <isapgswell> any idea?
[02:40] <isapgswell> my gpu is nvidia 1060
[02:41] <isapgswell> 6gb vram
[02:43] <isapgswell> prime profile nvidia on demand
[02:43] <isapgswell> and nouveau driver
[02:53] <ttytwister> Guys, thanks for helping with dual-OS installation problem. Everything works now. Ubuntu runs by default, and through the BIOS I can choose to run Windows
[02:54] <ttytwister> I think I won't do anything with grub until something is broken.
[03:50] <random1> Hey is their a way for when I lock my screen for a screen saver to pop up? Was curious if  anyone knew of such a  setting/program. Using ubuntu 20.04
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> random1: xscreensaver gives you a screensaver
[04:01] <random1> lotuspsychje: Thank you. It seems 80% of the screensavers on the selection is not available. Any idea how to update it ?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> random1: you will need to download also the xscreensaver data and gl packs, depending of wich screensaver you want
[04:02] <random1> lotuspsychje: Any good sources for the full pack? want to download them all at once
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> random1: data, data-extra, gl, gl-extra and youl be good
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> random1: after installation you create a new startup command with: xscreensaver -nosplash and reboot
[04:04] <random1> this will set it so when i lock screen that it pops up ?
[04:11] <random1> lotuspscyhje: I am curious why does it say "Error no response to command" when i try some of the screensavers
[04:11] <random1> lotuspsychje: paticularly the new ones i just installed with the data packs
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> random1: no, dont think you can combine the lock with the screensaver, you can set a password on xscreensaver though
[04:12] <random1> lotuspsychje: that is sufficient enough. Curious though why its giving me an error. Do I have to reboot?
[04:13] <random1> after installation you create a new startup command with: xscreensaver -nosplash and reboot
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> random1: yes reboot plz
[04:13] <random1> i didnt create the startup yet
[04:13] <random1> does that cause it to run in the background ?
[04:14] <random1> upon boot
[04:14] <random1> lotuspsychje
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> random1: did you add a startup item & reboot?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> random1: ?
[04:16] <random1> lotuspsychje: i did add that startup item but I am curious what is the purpose of it? just want to know for knowledge sake
[04:17] <random1> 'nosplash' im assuming causes it to run in the background ?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> random1: nosplash means it doesnt startup with the xscreensaver startup window, it hides it
[04:18] <random1> lotuspsychje: perfect. assumed that was it. time to reboot
[04:23] <devslash> is anyone familiar with a cloud based storage that I can mount in Linux besides google drive
[04:25] <random1> Screensavers now work :)
[04:25] <random1> Thank you
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome random1
[04:29] <random1> lotuspsychje: It works on the startup as well. I am curious where is the password function? Can't seem to find it
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> random1: hmm, cant seem to find it neither, thought i saw that under the advanced tab before..
[04:33] <random1> lotuspsychje: perhaps there is a lockscreen program. Then it will go to screensaver after i lockscreen
[04:33] <random1> lotuspsychje: not your normal Ctrl L lockscreen
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> random1: i only use the saver myself, never lockscreen, you will have to experiment a bit with it
[04:34] <random1> lotuspsychje: does it ask u for a password?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> random1: no, cant find it neither
[04:35] <random1> lotuspsychje: :/
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> random1: try the option 'lock screen after...minutes'
[04:37] <random1> lotuspsychje: trying it now
[04:39] <random1> lotuspsychje: didn;t do anything
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> random1: try combining it with your screenlock in powersettings, see if you can override xscreensaver?
[04:42] <random1> lotuspsychje: let me see.. hmm
[05:02] <ledeni> random1:you should have option in screensaver preference
[05:10] <random1> well
[05:10] <random1> are you familiar with 'xtrlock' ?
[06:31] <TuxCrazy> hello...
[06:31] <TuxCrazy> would it be safe to install this package using the deb file provided here? https://github.com/johannesjo/super-productivity/releases
[06:32] <TuxCrazy> or should we stick to either the snap package or the appimage provided.
[06:32] <TuxCrazy> ?
[06:40] <matsaman> TuxCrazy: no particular reason a snap package would be any more safe if it's also from upstream
[06:41] <matsaman> imagine the same is true for appimage
[06:41] <guiverc> I would trust a snap more (unless it's classic confinement) as it'll have a more restricted view to your fs/file-system
[06:42] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, snap better than appimage?
[06:42] <guiverc> it'll depend where you keep your files, most of mine aren't in $HOME
[06:43] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, which files?
[06:43] <guiverc> TuxCrazy, what OS are you using?  appimage isn't default for Ubuntu
[06:44] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, I use multiple distros. Ubuntu Mate and MX Linux. I use Windows also.
[06:44] <guiverc> the files comment was b/c of matsaman comment, snaps do have pretty free access to $HOME even if normal confinement
[06:44] <guiverc> MX Linux & windows are off-topic here
[06:44] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, ok. What about Ubuntu Mate?
[06:44] <guiverc> Ubuntu-MATE is an official flavor which is why I didn't mention it (it's on-topic)
[06:45] <TuxCrazy> ok
[06:45] <TuxCrazy> btw, which flavor of Ubuntu 20.04 is most suitable for a machine with just 4 GB RAM?
[06:45] <guiverc> I'm less familiar with appimage as I rarely use it (not default in Ubuntu or flavors of Ubuntu, nor Debian)
[06:45] <matsaman> TuxCrazy: whichever
[06:46] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, ok
[06:46] <guiverc> TuxCrazy, it'll depend how you'll use, your apps (are they GTK3, Qt5 etc) so you're not wasting memory; PLUS of course your tastes (only you can decide what you like)
[06:46] <TuxCrazy> when will Ubuntu Deepin be added as an official flavor of Ubuntu?
[06:46] <TuxCrazy> and also Ubuntu Cinnamon.
[06:47] <matsaman> when someone wants to waste the time to make a whole distro that's just Ubuntu with one of those DEs preinstalled & preconfigured?
[06:47] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, but, Ubuntu Gnome, Kubuntu will be a bit heavy on this laptop.
[06:47] <guiverc> when they (their community/devs) apply & meet the requirements for official status, the Ubuntu Cinnamon is making steps towards it I understand and it may occur next year
[06:47] <matsaman> TuxCrazy: that's not necessarily true
[06:48] <matsaman> 4GB is plenty of RAM
[06:48] <guiverc> Kubuntu is actually very light (using Qt5), it's heavy rep was early Qt4 - ie. long long ago
[06:48] <TuxCrazy> ok
[06:48] <matsaman> especially for Unix systems, whose GUIs aren't piles of crap
[06:48] <matsaman> and the Qt4 era spanned systems with much less RAM, truly
[06:48] <TuxCrazy> btw, why did they think it necessary to create Ubuntu Cinnamon when Mint was already available?
[06:48] <matsaman> less than 4GB, that is
[06:49] <matsaman> Mint is a separate distro, unaffiliated with Canonical, IIRC
[06:49] <matsaman> that is, there is no Ubuntu Mint. Mint is its own thing
[06:49] <TuxCrazy> but, is Mint not based on Ubuntu? is it so much similar to Ubuntu. is it not?
[06:49] <matsaman> I believe it was originally based on Ubuntu, not sure at this point
[06:49] <guiverc> A Ubuntu Cinnamon will be adjustment free (ie. runtime 'hacks' to use foreign packages... Ubuntu Cinnamon will be adjustment free as it won't be using a foreign (Ubuntu) packages)
[06:50] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, could you please elaborate on it?
[06:50] <TuxCrazy> I am a casual end user.
[06:51] <guiverc> It would take resources for Mint to create all the packages currently available in Ubuntu archives, so they use Ubuntu packages and adjust in real time (they call it adjustments) to tweak them on their machine.. it's an understandable hack but opens security door etc.. instead of grabbing the code, editing it, compiling & packaging it for ...
[06:51] <matsaman> anyway you can use any DE and wm from any version of any distro, pretty much
[06:52] <matsaman> you can change DE/wm every day if you want
[06:54] <TuxCrazy> ok
[06:55] <guiverc> TuxCrazy, there is nothing sinister in it; it saves them tons of time & I perfectly understand the use of adjustments (their lower-security model also is easier to use/cheaper resource wise), but as a user I can pick which security model I like
[06:58] <TuxCrazy> guiverc, Mint is less secure as compared to Ubuntu?
[06:59] <matsaman> I would say Mint has fewer eyes to dedicate to security
[06:59] <matsaman> than Ubuntu, which has fewer than Debian
[06:59] <matsaman> but
[06:59] <matsaman> Ubuntu draws from Debian, and Mint from Ubuntu & Debian
[06:59] <matsaman> so it's hard to say, you'd have to get into response times and delays from upstreams and that
[07:00] <guiverc> They have made different security options, you can adjust Mint yourself to almost get to Ubuntu's choice (by default it's a fair bit lower), except for the adjustments choice (there is no way around that)
[07:00] <matsaman> I prefer non-derivate distros myself
[07:00] <guiverc> s/security options/security choices/
[07:01] <TuxCrazy> ok
[07:02] <guiverc> Many Ubuntu packages are from upstream (GitHub) & not Debian; many of my Ubuntu packages (on this system) are actually later than my Debian Bullseye/Sid system, but of course that's not all packages (as many come from Debian sid)
[07:02] <TuxCrazy> ok
[07:03] <spandexVortex> hello
[07:03] <TuxCrazy> thanks a lot for all this info.
[07:03] <spandexVortex> I'am new here
[07:03] <guiverc> TuxCrazy, everything has pros & cons... in the end it's what is best for you, your use of it etc.
[07:03] <TuxCrazy> ok
[07:03] <spandexVortex> TuxCrazy: Hello there!
[07:03] <guiverc> spandexVortex, If you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (try and keep to a single line & be patient, people respond as they can)
[07:03] <TuxCrazy> spandexVortex, hi..
[07:04] <spandexVortex> sorry
[07:05] <guiverc> spandexVortex, no need to apologize... you haven't asked a question yet... but people do other things & look at this when they can, reply as they can..
[07:05] <TuxCrazy> have a great day.
[07:05] <TuxCrazy> bye.
[07:06] <spandexVortex> What's up with the unattended upgrade in ubuntu 18.4 server version. It restricts from installing other packages.
[08:00] <Deano59> waveform: (or anyone else) does Ubuntu get packages/kernels from Debian testing?
[08:04] <guiverc> Yes & No Deano59
[08:04] <guiverc> Many packages in my Lubuntu system are ahead of my Debian Bullseye/Sid system, but of course that won't apply to all.
[08:05] <Deano59> guiverc: it's just on the Pi forum, there's a dude saying debian testing got kernel 5.9 so Ubuntu should have it soon. not sure how true that is...
[08:05] <guiverc> (it'll vary on release, I'm using development or hirsute which is currently equivalent to groovy)
[08:05] <Deano59> thanks. :)
[08:05] <guiverc> Yes true, my Debian system got 5.9 yesterday; my Ubuntu hasn't, but Ubuntu has been frozen for aehile due groovy release..
[08:06] <Deano59> you're testing for bugs?
[08:06] <guiverc> s/aehile/awhile
[08:06] <Deano59> with Ubuntu?
[08:06] <Deano59> :)
[08:06] <guiverc> Deano59, yes, associated with a flavor so it's useful being on development cycle..
[08:07] <Deano59> nice :) found many?
[08:07] <guiverc> my flavor is ahead of Debian, as we grab from upstream (GitHub) not Debian... won't apply to all packages as heaps does come from debian sid (some debian testing)
[08:08] <Deano59> :)
[08:39] <Bebef> hi everyone! o/
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> welcome Bebef
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you today Bebef
[08:46] <Bebef> Can anyone tell me how I can manage my machines/tokens registered in the Canonical livepatch service? All I can find is the page to generate tokens, but nothing else...
[08:46] <Bebef> hi lotuspsychje
[08:51] <qwertuttyty> How do I change the rights of a 600 file through the console?
[08:51] <Bebef> qwertuttyty: chmod
[08:53] <johnny_|_> Hi. I'm running a bash script with cron. Bash script executes couple of docker containers one by one. It works when I execute it from the shell however it exits when run with cron before even the first container finishes. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/951f40ea/
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Bebef: you might wanna checkout the #ubuntu-server channel, though more active during weekdays
[08:59] <mgedmin> johnny_|_: cron sends emails on script errors, do you have any in /var/mail/?
[09:00] <mgedmin> systemd units might be more convenient to debug, you could see what the script did in journalctl
[09:00] <qwertuttyty> i know, but that's not works sudo chmod 600 /media/NAME/NAME/FILE. How it Right?
[09:00] <mgedmin> well, if the rights already are 600, and you're changining them to 600, then it's not really a change, is it?
[09:01] <mgedmin> what do you want to achieve?
[09:02] <qwertuttyty> 755 need 600
[09:02] <mgedmin> johnny_|_: also, docker run --rm is synchronous, so docker wait seems unnecessary, the container is already stopped and removed at that point
[09:03] <mgedmin> qwertuttyty: if /media/NAME/NAME is formatted as VFAT, then you can't set arbitrary file permissions on it
[09:03] <mgedmin> NTFS, I'm not sure
[09:03] <qwertuttyty> fat32
[09:04] <mgedmin> well then
[09:06] <Bebef> lotuspsychje: Okay, thanks for the hint :)
[09:15] <qwertuttyty> ntfs via NTFS-3G do not need. 755 is not critical to me
[09:28] <qwertuttyty> ntfs 777 can not create file sudo fallocate -l 128M /media/NAME/NAME/FILE.
[09:29] <qwertuttyty> error in console with FILE=0 Mb
[09:29] <qwertuttyty> ok 755 with fat32
[09:34] <irgendwer4711> hi, where is kernel-package in Groovy?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !info kernel-package groovy
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !info kernel-package
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: away so it seems
[09:38] <irgendwer4711> very strange
[09:48] <irgendwer4711> config files are still there
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: are you trying to do something?
[09:48] <irgendwer4711> build kernel
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: use the !mainline kernels on ubuntu for testing purposes
[09:49] <irgendwer4711> kernel is there, but make-kpkg not any more
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: maybe the #ubuntu-kernel or #ubuntu-release crew know more of the 'why'
[09:52] <irgendwer4711> in debian its missing too
[09:55] <irgendwer4711> seems to be deprecated now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=960377
[10:14] <dirtwash> anyone here using maas? the documentation is faulty and I cant even get it started to start testing it
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> !maas | dirtwash
[10:19] <dirtwash> lotuspsychje: their documentation is faulty, hence im asking if somene here uses it
[10:20] <dirtwash> im supposed to evaluate it and so far its already garbage
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> dirtwash: file a maas !bug if you found something that doesnt work by default
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> dirtwash: check also the existing bugs first; https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[10:22] <dirtwash> their people getting paid for this, I am not, not my job
[10:47] <DarkTrick> I have an micro SD card (NTFS, 256GB), works fine on windows, but on ubuntu I can't use it. dmesg shows many "blk_update_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 op 0x0" errors
[10:48] <DarkTrick> Any ideas how to tackle the problem?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: did you try format with gparted (if you dont need data on it)
[11:14] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, yes I tried gparted. It shows "Input/output error during read on /dev/mmcblk0"
[11:15] <mgedmin> hm so if the same card works on a different os, then it's not a problem with the card
[11:15] <mgedmin> it may be a problem with the linux driver for the card reader
[11:15] <mgedmin> do you know what kind of a reader it is?  it should show up on lspci or lsusb or lshw
[11:19] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, lspci shows this: "SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. SD/MMC Card Reader Controller (rev 01)"
[11:19] <mgedmin> lspci -nn will also show you the [XXXX:XXXX] vendor/device identifiers
[11:19] <DarkTrick> Kernel module sdhci_pci
[11:20] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, SD Host controller [0805]: O2 Micro, Inc. SD/MMC Card Reader Controller [1217:8520] (rev 01)
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: can you journalctl -f and plug out/back in the sd to see errors on it?
[11:22] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/DgM2khPM
[11:23] <jlas9> Hi, regards. Where is the support for the wifi driver 8821ce in the new release 20.10?. In the releases 20.04 and previous was easily added with the dkms tools... Any clues?. Thanks in advance.
[11:23] <mgedmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1251116
[11:23] <DarkTrick> I already tried searching for that stuff, but results always refer to sda and broken hardware
[11:23] <mgedmin> fix released, interesting
[11:24] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, judging from error messages, this looks like something different?
[11:25] <mgedmin> there's also https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109231
[11:25] <dreamscape> hello everyone. I know this post is based on the MATE version but I'm getting desperate at this point and i hope someone can help me? https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/graphics-card-nvidia-gt-1030-wont-work-on-lenovo-pc-ubuntu/22911/5
[11:26] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, but... I can tell, that other cards actually work on the same reader
[11:26] <mgedmin> huh!
[11:26] <mgedmin> and _this_ card works fine on another OS on the same laptop?
[11:26] <DarkTrick> I used an old 256MB card for testing and used a couple 8GB cards for raspi initializations - no problem
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> jlas9: can you pastebin your dmesg please
[11:26] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, yes
[11:27] <DarkTrick> I have a parallel Win 10 installation
[11:27] <DarkTrick> same card, same reader
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: could be partition table issue on the sd too
[11:27] <mgedmin> nah, it's a read error
[11:28] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, I reformatted the card under Win with NTFS
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm ok
[11:28] <mgedmin> DarkTrick: I think you need to get hold of people more familiar with the SD card reader, which means filing a bug and hoping
[11:28] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, what package would I file it against?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: wich driver versions show on; ubuntu-drivers list please?
[11:29] <mgedmin> DarkTrick: the kernel
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: aka; ubuntu-bug linux
[11:30] <mgedmin> in addition to the journal entries for read errors it may be useful to find the journal entries from early boot when the hardware was detected and the driver loaded
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> good idea mgedmin
[11:31] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje I installed the propitiatory Nvidia driver but all i had was the option to switch GPU's for power saving but the problem was i could only switch to intel which i was already using. All documented here it's a really odd issue https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/graphics-card-nvidia-gt-1030-wont-work-on-lenovo-pc-ubuntu/22911/5
[11:31] <jlas9> lotuspsychje: i don't know what is pastebin.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !paste | jlas9
[11:31] <jlas9> ok
[11:31] <jlas9> Hi, regards. Where is the support for the wifi driver 8821ce in the new release 20.10?. In the releases 20.04 and previous was easily added with the dkms tools... Any clues?. Thanks in advance.
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: please check right now; ubuntu-drivers list please?
[11:32] <jlas9> dreamscape: i wiil. Thanks.
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> !pm | dreamscape
[11:33] <dreamscape> How do i access the drivers list?
[11:34] <dreamscape> bare in mind i can't run this machine with the card in now. so im only using intel
[11:34] <dreamscape> if i use nvidia it gets stuck on the boot screen but the OS does load as i can hear sounds
[11:35] <jeremy31> jlas9: https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce might help
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:35] <jlas9> jeremy31: very kind
[11:35] <dreamscape> It acts like the Intel GPU is being used (as it did before) but now it doesnt work when i plug in the cable only the Nvidia card works.
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: are you on irc with another machine, is that what you say?
[11:35] <dreamscape> No I'm on IRC with the machine in question i dont have any other machines i can use my phone. one moment
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: from a terminal; ubuntu-drivers list
[11:39] <dreamscape> Imbooted in with the card now os has loaded but i have just the boot screen
[11:39] <dreamscape> Alt ctrl f2 doesnt give me a terminal
[11:40] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, "in addition to the journal entries for read errors it may be useful to find the journal entries from early boot when the hardware was detected and the driver loaded": Where would I search? dmesg output? syslog?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | dreamscape
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | DarkTrick
[11:41] <dreamscape> I tried but i couldnt get to the grub menu. Its shift at boot correct?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: holding shift at boot or ESC, in some cases the machine need a grub delay/menu tweak
[11:43] <dreamscape> Ok im at the grub terminal
[11:45] <dreamscape> What do i type here?
[11:46] <mgedmin> DarkTrick: journalctl -b 0 will show you the log starting from the last boot, search for 'mmc0' and look for surrounding entries
[11:47] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, "last boot" means the boot I'm into right now, right?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: after quiet splash add nomodeset and boot it
[11:49] <dreamscape> Yeah how do i edit that file im currently at grub>
[11:50] <dreamscape> Shift doesnt work this is the only menu i get
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> press 'e' to edit
[11:50] <dreamscape> Says cant find command 'e'.
[11:51] <DarkTrick> Anyway, I think I got something
[11:51] <dreamscape> Im at a terminal not the grub menu. I cant access the menu
[11:51] <dreamscape> Some sort of grub terminal
[11:52] <DarkTrick> mgedmin, can you take a look if anything here contains information? https://pastebin.com/GWHgiSC3
[11:52] <DarkTrick> Maybe this line? "mmc0: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:03:00.0] using ADMA"
[11:54] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje im using UEFI so shift wont work
[11:54] <mgedmin> yeah, everything that mentions sdhci or mmc0
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: are you in a tty?
[11:55] <dreamscape> I think so yes
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: ubuntu-drivers list
[11:56] <dreamscape> It says minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, tab lists possible command completions
[11:57] <dreamscape> Its not a terminal is some sort of grub command line thing
[11:57] <dreamscape> It has grub>
[11:57] <jlas9> jeremy31: solved the problem with wifi driver rtl8821ce. Download the last Git version and do a dkms-install did the work ok. Thanks you (and the others guys who helped) very much!!!.
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters read please
[12:04] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje tried nomodeset and im getting the same issue
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: what issue
[12:05] <dreamscape> OS boots but nvidia card is stuck at the boot screen
[12:06] <wyoung> Dang
[12:07] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/graphics-card-nvidia-gt-1030-wont-work-on-lenovo-pc-ubuntu/22911/5
[12:07] <dreamscape> This explains the problem in detail
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: secureboot and fastoot disabled?
[12:08] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, mgedmin: Thank you both for the support! I managed to file a bug and hope for the best :)
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: thank you to file bug #1901401
[12:10] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje secureboot disabled no option for fast boot
[12:10] <dreamscape> Iv tried resetting the bios and all sorts.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: legacy or uefi boot?
[12:11] <dreamscape> Uefi
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: try legacy as a test please
[12:11] <dreamscape> Ok
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: so both fossa & groovy suffer it correct?
[12:12] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, yes
[12:12] <dreamscape> Says no operating system found. I will need to reinstall or try live usb under legacy lotuspsychje ?
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: yeah try legacy from a live
[12:15] <dreamscape> I just have a flashing cursor os had loaded i can hear sounds. Same issue
[12:18] <jeffrey_f> I've updated to 20.10 but how do I get my google contacts into thunderbird.  It seems that the addon is no longer supported. (gcontactsync)
[12:20] <rotaerc> I'm a newer of irc. I want to know how to query the history chat log
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: a lot of these; sdhci-pci 0000:03:00.0: error -84 requesting status
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !logs | rotaerc
[12:24] <rotaerc> this
[12:24] <rotaerc> thks
[12:27] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje im out of ideas... Any ideas from you?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: flashing cursor means uefi settings not correct yet, doublecheck secureboot and fastboot
[12:30] <dreamscape> This was under legacy boot
[12:30] <dreamscape> Secure boot disabled
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: some machines have other settings that can block, some bios changes need a reboot too
[12:37] <dreamscape> I dusabled a security chip option in the bios and now it boots!! Trying to install nvidia drivers now. lotuspsychje
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: good luck!
[12:38] <dreamscape> Tgm security chip or something like that
[12:38] <dreamscape> Thanks for the help
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> welcome dreamscape
[12:40] <DarkTrick> lotuspsychje, I did not understand the intend of your last message. I overposted the errors?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> DarkTrick: no sorry, i was reading your dmesg from your bug ID and that error spams a lot in your dmesg
[12:46] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje installed the drivers now its doing the same thing again... What the hell?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: wich driver version did you install?
[12:47] <dreamscape> 440.0 or something
[12:47] <dreamscape> The latest propriatory, tested drivers
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: what gives; ubuntu-drivers list ?
[12:48] <dreamscape> I cant access it anymore
[12:48] <dreamscape> Im stuck out of the os again
[12:48] <dreamscape> Unless i use intel graphics which defeats the purpose
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: did you clean install and install 440 yourself?
[12:49] <dreamscape> Yes
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: 440 wasnt active by default after install?
[12:49] <dreamscape> No
[12:50] <dreamscape> It does on my older lenovo it installs them during setup
[12:50] <dreamscape> Os install i mean
[12:51] <dreamscape> Il try another fresh install if it doesnt work i think il have to send the new machine back :(
[12:58] <dust> error mounting file system /dev/sdb7 at /media/user/temp_rpool: unknown filesystem type 'zfs_member' (udisk-error-quark, 0) ... how can i mount it and get access to my files? its super important as there are all my mails!
[13:11] <asdfgh> hello everybody
[13:11] <asdfgh> i have ubuntu 20.04 and i just have bought a canon pixma mg3650s
[13:12] <asdfgh> i have configured the printer via smartphone
[13:12] <asdfgh> now it is using wireless
[13:12] <asdfgh> from settings/printer i see the printer in my ubuntu!
[13:12] <asdfgh> i did not add anything...it is recognized
[13:12] <asdfgh> wow....but the problem is when i try to print
[13:12] <asdfgh> i can see the printer but does not print
[13:12] <asdfgh> what should i install
[13:12] <asdfgh> ?^
[13:15] <Deano59> why does opening "chromium --use-gl=egl" give this in terminal? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KpxnYVnRfF/
[13:15] <asdfgh> the scanner works perfectly...that's awesome
[13:27] <asdfgh> anyone?
[13:29] <mgedmin> dust: I suspect you need to use a different command to mount zfs volumes, but I'm not myself familiar with zfs
[13:30] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje any ideas before i send it back? :(
[13:30] <Deano59> asdfgh: wait, if someone knows they'll answer.
[13:30] <dust> mgedmin, thx... thats the gnome disk utility
[13:32] <asdfgh> Deano59, ok, the strange thing is...ok this printer is connected to wifi....the connection is not a problem because i can scan document....but i cannot print..
[13:32] <asdfgh> very strange
[13:32] <asdfgh> i need to find a log or something to understand what happened
[13:32] <asdfgh> as i wrote i havent installed anything on ubuntu 20.04
[13:32] <asdfgh> nothing related to this Canon
[13:36] <mgedmin> dust: I find it plausible that gnome-disks doesn't know what to do with zfs
[13:36] <mgedmin> after all it's not a standard linux filesystem
[13:36] <dust> it is in ubuntu... no?
[13:37] <dust> its also the problem in nautilus
[13:37] <dust> is a general problem with zfs in ubuntu
[13:37] <mgedmin> dust: maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/123126/how-do-i-mount-a-zfs-pool can help?
[13:39] <mgedmin> dust: also https://frommelmak.com/how-to-mount-a-zfs-drive-in-linux.html
[13:39] <dust> mgedmin, thx did find that too not sure if its still valid as its from long ago and since then ubuntu adopted zfs as root fs
[13:40] <mgedmin> well, it's an option, not the default root fs
[13:40] <mgedmin> and apparently ubuntu didn't do the work to make mounting zvfs volumes in nautilus or gnome-disks work?
[13:41] <mgedmin> I don't know, as I said I've never used zfs
[13:42] <mgedmin> (directly, that is, I think lxd uses zfs on some image files in my ext4 / behind the curtains)
[13:42] <dust> to make zfs as possible root fs and then not integrate it accordingly... hoped they fixed such with 20.10
[13:43] <dust> but the upgrade from 20.04 on zfs to 20.10 failed so needed a complete new install on another disk
[13:45] <dust> at 20.10 didnt use zfs because of bad experience but still need my data from 20.04 zfs... deja dub dosnt backup snaps...
[13:45] <dreamscape> Is there a hot key to enable or switch hybrid graphics in ubuntu
[13:54] <asdfgh> what are the drivers to connect to lan printer?
[13:56] <ThinkT510> each printer will require their own driver
[13:56] <ThinkT510> CUPS comes with many drivers
[13:56] <mgedmin> the modern thing is called 'driverless printing' and I'm not sure how it works exactly
[13:57] <mgedmin> but in theory things should just work
[13:57] <mgedmin> except, you know, printers
[13:59] <Jakethepython> Hello room, i have an issue that my laptop wifi keeps picking up and dropping on the laptop i don't seem to have this issue on other computers
[13:59] <Jakethepython> i am running 20.4
[14:00] <jeremy31> Jakethepython: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[14:02] <Jakethepython> Thank you
[14:02] <luna_> j nuug
[14:02] <luna_> j nuug
[14:02] <luna_> whoops
[14:02] <asdfgh> ThinkT510, mgedmin i do not know i have Canon PIXMA MG3650S I did not install anything on ubuntu 20.04 but on settings/printers i see that printer....this printer in configuired on wireless network...the funny thing is that i see the printer as i wrote, i can scan documents but i cannot print.
[14:03] <mgedmin> yeah, so printer autodiscovery works great
[14:03] <mgedmin> have you checked all the basic things like correct paper size?  my office hp laserjet fails to print if I print us letter because it has a4 paper loaded
[14:04] <mgedmin> (I have to walk there and push a button on the printer to tell it that it's fine to resize)
[14:05] <asdfgh> mgedmin, yes because i can print with smartphone
[14:05] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje Ok I've managed to get to my desktop finally using my Nvidia card by setting the nomodeset option in grub BUT if i install the Nvidia drivers i get what i had before the BIOS logo displayed only and the OS has booted as i can hear sounds.
[14:05] <asdfgh> the printer is working, via canon app i can print
[14:06] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje Do i need to install the drivers and then set nomodeset again in grub?? Or is there an issue with the drivers?
[14:07] <mgedmin> asdfgh: file a bug against cups?
[14:07] <asdfgh> mgedmin, i do not know , is there a log i can check? i simply see printing...but...no signal form printer
[14:08] <mgedmin> I dunno, maybe journalctl?  maybe there's something in /var/log/cups/?
[14:09] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje here is the ubuntu-driver list https://pastebin.com/iNA14TzS
[14:10] <asdfgh> mgedmin, https://bpa.st/H2XQ
[14:11] <mgedmin> ah!  yes, that's definitely pertinent
[14:11] <mgedmin> do file a bug with ubuntu-bug cups
[14:11] <mgedmin> mention the model of the printer and include these log entries
[14:18] <asdfgh> mgedmin, wait before file a bug...i shopul dunderstand if i need to install something else
[14:18] <asdfgh> as i said i did not install anything for printer
[14:18] <asdfgh> so i suppose i need specific packages to install
[14:20] <mgedmin> you should not need to install anything, afaiu
[14:20] <mgedmin> ok, you should not need to install anything _if your printer supports driverless printing_
[14:20] <mgedmin> https://openprinting.github.io/driverless/
[14:21] <dreamscape> https://i.postimg.cc/2yMkYx5f/Screenshot-at-2020-10-25-14-19-19.png what is the difference between the Nvidia driver metapackage or the Nvidia Server Driver? I've always used the metapackage but maybe i need the server???
[14:21] <dreamscape> original issue here: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/graphics-card-nvidia-gt-1030-wont-work-on-lenovo-pc-ubuntu/22911/5
[14:21] <dreamscape> please someone help
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: try 435
[14:22] <mgedmin> asdfgh: it looks like for you the process gets stuck in step 3 of https://openprinting.github.io/driverless/02-workflow/
[14:22] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje ok, will this reset my nomodeset I've set in grub? or do i need to turn it off?
[14:23] <dreamscape> because last time i tried i got locked out and i have to reinstall the OS every time i try this
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: nomodeset is just a boot option to bypass black screens and be able to install your nvidia driver
[14:24] <dreamscape> ok, so when the nvidia driver is installed i should remove this option from grub?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: yes
[14:24] <dreamscape> ok
[14:24] <dreamscape> thanks i will try it now
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: (if you added it permanently)
[14:24] <dreamscape> yes i did
[14:25] <asdfgh> mgedmin, i am seeing that page
[14:25] <asdfgh> one moment
[14:25] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje just curious, what is the difference between the server and metapackage drivers?
[14:30] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje this is new... I've just had this come up https://pastebin.com/EgN8QAkH
[14:39] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje didnt work
[14:39] <dreamscape> Now stuck out of the OS with just my bios logo displayed
[14:41] <dreamscape> Literally been on this for a day now
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: stuck where exactly?
[14:43] <dreamscape> The bios logo comes up, grey screen (normal for MATE) then i get the lenovo bios logo again normally then i see a mouse and gui but now i see just the bios logo
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: try pressing F1 at booting to switch to textboot, see if you can grab errors
[14:44] <dreamscape> The machine is in the OS. Alt f2 gives me a 1 second look at my terminal login then just a blinking cursor
[14:44] <dreamscape> Ok
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: did you change uefi settings again?
[14:44] <dreamscape> No
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: pastebin your dmesg and dpkg log when you get in your system please
[14:45] <dreamscape> Bios hot key is same as text boot its impossible to get to text boot
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> dreamscape: F1 after POST loading, when you see the mate logo boot
[14:48] <dreamscape> Ok im at the menu, ubuntu
[14:48] <dreamscape> Advanced options for ubuntu
[14:48] <dreamscape> Uefi firmware settings
[14:49] <dreamscape> If i press c for command line it takes me to grub>
[14:53] <dreamscape> Ok iv got it but its huge and im not in the os so cant pastebin
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | dreamscape
[14:54] <dreamscape> Im not in the os im in pure terminal
[14:55] <dreamscape> No browser
[14:55] <dreamscape> Oh wait ok
[14:55] <Deano59> dreamscape: you don't need a browser.
[14:55] <dreamscape> No network where i am
[14:55] <Deano59> then out of luck.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> take a picture
[14:59] <tomreyn> dreamscape: can you boot to graphical mode at all? and do you have an ethernet connection, or can you set one up? or just wireless?
[14:59] <dreamscape> No i cant i have ethernet plugged in but its not working
[15:00] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/r0hsSdX2
[15:00] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/18ZmV0nN
[15:01] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/94mcJWBm
[15:01] <tomreyn> if you can bring this system online in some other mode, posting your logs will be easier
[15:01] <dreamscape> lotuspsychje here is my dmesg best i can do right now
[15:01] <dreamscape> I cant
[15:02] <tomreyn> so it can't get online at all?
[15:02] <dreamscape> No i cant boot into gui or terminal with this card in but without the card in it wint show anything
[15:03] <dreamscape> Blow the images up they are full size. Should be readable sorry its all i can do
[15:03] <tomreyn> hmm, so booting with !nomodeset seemed to get you to a gui previously. but you'd not have networking then?
[15:04] <tomreyn> or are you saying !nomodeset doesn't get you to the desktop anymore?
[15:04] <dreamscape> No... It did when i had no nvidia drivers. Right now im in diagnostics from boot menu
[15:04] <dreamscape> Nope it doesnt after nvidia drivers
[15:05] <dreamscape> Iv tried editing grub already both with and without nomodeset if nvidia drivers are on i get just my bios logo even though im in the os
[15:05] <Deano59> how can I get rid of this? it's very annoying. sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu: Name or service not known=
[15:06] <Deano59> network = on. doing my head in. :D
[15:06] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i see. "NVRM: ... RMInitAdapter failed" at https://i.postimg.cc/WTngdHCR/IMG-20201025-145731703.jpg doesn't look good. can you double check that the graphics card is physically seated properly on the pcie lane?
[15:07] <tomreyn> and on the right lane(s), too
[15:07] <tomreyn> i'd also suggest disabling secure boot if that's an option you have on the bios.
[15:07]  * mgedmin remains happy with his decision to avoid nvidia video hardware in his laptops
[15:08] <Deano59> mgedmin: me too! too much hassle.
[15:08] <dreamscape> Its seated perfectly its been in and out over 20 times with this issue  so shouldnt be that
[15:08] <tomreyn> so you just verified it?
[15:08] <dreamscape> By looking at it yes or do you mean by some other m
[15:09] <dreamscape> Way
[15:10] <tomreyn> visual inspection is a good start, i'd also push it into the slot once more on both top ends while the system is powered down.
[15:10] <dreamscape> Iv also tried secure boot on and off legacy boot everything
[15:10] <dreamscape> Ok il try it
[15:12] <dreamscape> Tried it same issue
[15:12] <tomreyn> nvidia driver 435.21 (Aug 25, 2019) was loaded. and it seems to fail to identify the nvidia card.
[15:12] <dreamscape> Its definetly seated correctly
[15:12] <dreamscape> Hmm...
[15:13] <tomreyn> ok, good. once powered up again, does     lspci -knnv | grep -A3 VGA     list the graphics card? and how?
[15:14] <dreamscape> Having trouble getting into the recovery mode
[15:15] <tomreyn> you had a root shell previously, what's different this time? or is it just a matter of timing things right?
[15:15] <dreamscape> Ok one moment. My bios key is the same key so timing is hard
[15:16] <tomreyn> i see
[15:16] <dreamscape> It says grep A3 no such file or directory
[15:16] <mgedmin> I think you can hold down Shift to get a grub menu, instead of hitting Esc at just the right time
[15:17] <tomreyn> dreamscape: you didn't type it properly, needs to be exactly as above
[15:17] <tomreyn> | is a "pipe" character
[15:17] <dreamscape> Got it
[15:17] <tomreyn> oh and there's a hyphon before A3
[15:18] <tomreyn> ok, let's see another screenie
[15:18] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/8fpZF0dz
[15:21] <][o4|-o_5o_PYcki> restarting the snapstore process will lead to what ?
[15:22] <tomreyn> dreamscape: lspci -knnvd 10de:1d01
[15:22] <tomreyn> and another screenie please
[15:23] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/p97vJKcv
[15:24] <dreamscape> Thanks for your help with this by the way
[15:24] <tomreyn> you're welcome. so it seems to be properly detected by the system / kernel, but not properly initialzed by the nvidia driver.
[15:24] <tomreyn> in bios, see if you have 'Advanced chipset settings' -> 'Aperture size', or any kind of memory allocation, or a value in M / MB?
[15:25] <tomreyn> also see if you can disable "secure boot"
[15:25] <dreamscape> Interesting.. there is a newer 450 driver but i tried that with the same result
[15:25] <dreamscape> Ok
[15:27] <dreamscape> Ok secure boot disabled no memory allocation though sadly. I have pci e settings...? ASPM support
[15:27] <dreamscape> X1 slot speed and x16 slot speed both set to auto
[15:28] <tomreyn> ASPM support should be enabled, but it probably is
[15:28] <dreamscape> It is i think yes
[15:28] <tomreyn> can you remember which changes you have made on the bios so far?
[15:29] <dreamscape> Its reset so nothing only secure boot which i just did
[15:29] <dreamscape> But iv tried all sorts over the past day
[15:29] <tomreyn> okay, let's boot again then, to text mode.
[15:29] <tomreyn> how did you install the nvidia drivers last time?
[15:30] <tomreyn> i mean the one you have currently
[15:30] <dreamscape> In the gui. The card works on x.org drivers
[15:30] <dreamscape> But is sluggish as hell
[15:30] <tomreyn> did you download it from nvidia.com or did you use something in ubuntu to install it?
[15:31] <dreamscape> In ubuntu the additional drivers
[15:31] <tomreyn> okay, when you're back to the text terminal, install the latest driver using   ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[15:32] <tomreyn> and tell us what it did, which driver was installed
[15:32] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/gallery/Xj7q4gR
[15:32] <tomreyn> actually it's just   ubuntu-drivers install
[15:33] <tomreyn> oh nice, bios screens
[15:33] <dreamscape> Thats my bios not sure if you can spot anything
[15:33] <dreamscape> Limited.. :/
[15:33] <murthy> Will youtube-dl be removed from downstream?
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: his ubuntu-drivers from earlier: https://pastebin.com/iNA14TzS
[15:33] <murthy> also did ubuntu receive any takedown notification?
[15:34] <dreamscape> Thanks lotuspsychje
[15:35] <dreamscape> tomreyn i cant do drivers as i have no network in recovery mode
[15:35] <tomreyn> murthy: i doubt anyone on this (mostly volunteer) *support* channel can answer these questions
[15:36] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: thanks
[15:36] <murthy> tomreyn: shall I ask on ubuntu-dev?
[15:36] <murthy> tomreyn: shall I ask on ubuntu-devel?
[15:37] <dreamscape> Its trying to pull down the 450.80.02 driver
[15:37] <dreamscape> But no internet
[15:37] <tomreyn> murthy: i cannopt answer this where it fits there.
[15:37] <tomreyn> dreamscape: oh ok, i see
[15:37] <murthy> ok
[15:37] <dyeplexer> I have a lot of held back packages that were from ubuntu 18.04 when I upgraded to 20.04. These can be listed with `apt list | grep bionic`.
[15:37] <dyeplexer> How do make them switch to the offcial 20.04 repository version without doing it manually each time?
[15:38] <tomreyn> dreamscape: can you remind me what you said about the ethernet? it's not working at all?
[15:38] <dreamscape> Its not working in recovery mode i cant get to the normal os or terminal
[15:39] <dreamscape> Unless i can remove my nvidia drivers? Or reinstall the os again
[15:39] <dreamscape> I have internet inside the os no problem
[15:40] <tomreyn> dreamscape: okay, so remove the nvidia drivers, then boot to the graphical interface, then configure your network there, then install alöl the pending ubuntu updates, then install the latest nvidia drivers, then reboot, and tell us what happens.
[15:40] <dreamscape> Iv done that previously same issue
[15:41] <dreamscape> Iv done about 9 os installs trying this
[15:41] <dreamscape> How do you remove the nvidia drivers from the command line?
[15:42] <tomreyn> dpkg -l *nvidia*    and then   apt purge PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 ...    those packages listed with "ii"
[15:44] <dreamscape> Says error need a action option
[15:44] <tomreyn> Was the nvidia graphics card part of this computer, or was it sold seperately?
[15:44] <Deano59> wondering that also murthy...
[15:44] <murthy> ya many people are wondering too
[15:44] <dreamscape> Seperately
[15:45] <catman370> account facebook on
[15:45] <mgedmin> dyeplexer: sudo apt full-upgrade should upgrade them to 20.04 versions
[15:45] <murthy> Deano59: I have also asked in #ubuntu-devel, hope someone replies
[15:46] <tomreyn> dreamscape: can you show which command you ran?
[15:46] <dreamscape> Dpkg -|*nvidia*
[15:47] <tomreyn> dreamscape: this pipe is a lower case L
[15:47] <dreamscape> Oh oops
[15:47] <tomreyn> or shoul be, and you need a space after that
[15:48] <dreamscape> Dpkg error:unknown option -*
[15:48] <dreamscape> Oh
[15:48] <tomreyn> this time you omitted the l
[15:48] <tomreyn> if you like, you can install a proper irc client, which will probably default to a much more readable monotype font
[15:48] <dyeplexer> mgedmin: wait, I think all of these are PPA packages
[15:48] <chakravanti> why does ubuntu explicitly laack the ability to read any other linux hard drive it was installed to?
[15:48] <dyeplexer> that's why they show up as [installed, local]
[15:49] <dreamscape> https://postimg.cc/BthzL2bQ
[15:49] <dyeplexer> I'll try adding the ppas again
[15:51] <tomreyn> dreamscape: okay, you know what to do, right
[15:51] <dreamscape> No i dont
[15:51] <dreamscape> Purge which ones?
[15:51] <tomreyn> dreamscape: all of the ones with 'ii'
[15:52] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i can craft you a command to do this so you have less to type
[15:52] <tomreyn> dreamscape: in the meantime you can install a proper irc client
[15:52] <dreamscape> I cant im using my phone no access to other pcs
[15:52] <tomreyn> oh ok
[15:53] <tomreyn> so try this instead:   apt purge '.*nvidia.*'
[15:53] <tomreyn> no typos please ;)
[15:54] <dreamscape> Now i have a >_ blinking cursor
[15:54] <dreamscape> Now unable to locate package .*nvidia*.
[15:55] <chakravanti> why does ubuntu block you from reading your own hard drive?
[15:56] <Deano59> chakravanti: it doesn't...
[15:56] <chakravanti> i'm trying to get my old stuff off my old hard drive into the new system but i cant cuz ubunut refuses to read it
[15:56] <dreamscape> .*nvidia.* I meant
[15:56] <tomreyn> dreamscape: the command you ran is?
[15:56] <leftyfb> chakravanti: error messages would help
[15:57] <dreamscape> Apt purge '.*nvidia.*'
[15:57] <murthy> chakravanti: This happened after you updated?
[15:57] <tomreyn> dreamscape: hmm weird, looks fine (other than the upper case 'A' in 'Apt')
[15:58] <dreamscape> Thats just my phone
[15:58] <dreamscape> A reinstall might be faster
[15:58] <tomreyn> dreamscape: as you prefer.
[15:58] <tomreyn> you couls also just reboot to graphical mode and do it there
[15:59] <tomreyn> (as i suggested earlier)
[15:59] <tomreyn> actually, didn'T suggest  this order, sorry
[15:59] <chakravanti> murthy yes
[15:59] <leftyfb> murthy: I'm going to guess it's an NTFS drive from a Windows installation that wasn't just down properly and not is complaining about mounting an enclean filesystem
[15:59] <chakravanti> the problem is that i get no error messages at all
[15:59] <leftyfb> chakravanti: what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:59] <dreamscape> tomreyn can i pm you?
[16:00] <chakravanti> 20.04
[16:00] <murthy> leftyfb: I had a similar problem after after the update
[16:00] <leftyfb> chakravanti: what filesystem is the drive you're trying to read?
[16:00] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i prefer talking here.
[16:00] <chakravanti> ext4
[16:00] <chakravanti> LVM encryption
[16:00] <tomreyn> dreamscape: it enables peer review
[16:00] <murthy> I will tell you what happened to your both leftyfb and chakravanti, if you feel that is the same issue, try the solution
[16:00] <dreamscape> Ok
[16:00] <dreamscape> What is the plan after reinstall?
[16:00] <leftyfb> chakravanti: and what happens when you try to decrypt the volume?
[16:01] <dreamscape> Because iv tried the 450 drivers already
[16:01] <chakravanti> it asks for the password with the popup
[16:01] <murthy> when I was upgrading from 20.04 to 20.10, on of my ext drive was mounted with the name DATA2 like "/media/<username/DATA2"
[16:01] <leftyfb> chakravanti: and when you type in the correct popup? Also, it's best if you use the commandline for these things so we can see error messages
[16:01] <murthy> chakravanti: ya same thing
[16:02] <murthy> chakravanti: I will tell you wait
[16:02] <tomreyn> dreamscape: my hope is that the newer + recommended nvidia drivers will at least be able to identify your graphics card, and just not work for some other reason. it's also possible that disabling secure boot was all that was needed to make them work.
[16:02] <murthy> chakravanti: can you try something for me?
[16:02] <chakravanti> sure
[16:02] <leftyfb> murthy: we have yet to establish what the issue is
[16:02] <murthy> chakravanti: can you unmount all the drives?
[16:03] <dreamscape> Tried it with secure boot on and off on 450 drivers
[16:03] <chakravanti> how do you tell the terminal to load a USB?
[16:03] <murthy> leftyfb: I know what I am doing is the proper procedure, but let me try
[16:03] <leftyfb> chakravanti: what happens when you type in the correct password?
[16:03] <chakravanti> it disappears from the nautilus
[16:03] <leftyfb> murthy: you do not know until you know what the actual issue is
[16:03] <leftyfb> chakravanti: ok, can you try decrypting using the commandline?
[16:03] <dreamscape> Its odd because the 450 drivers see my card fine on my old lenovo which is just a older version of this pc
[16:03] <murthy> leftyfb: Its permission issue
[16:03] <dreamscape> So its not the card
[16:04] <chakravanti> not sure what the command is but I'm down to larn more of terminal at all points
[16:04] <murthy> leftyfb: when you unmount the drive, for me that DATA2 dir is suppose to disapper
[16:04] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i'd also like to see a complete system log, which will only work when you have internet access
[16:04] <murthy> but It didn't happen
[16:04] <murthy> I tried chown and it didn't work
[16:04] <leftyfb> murthy: we have yet to establish the issue
[16:04] <murthy> reproduction? I am not helping
[16:04] <Deano59> leftyfb: you like repeating yourself, eh. :D
[16:05] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdXX newmountname # replace with your partition location and what name you'd like it mount as
[16:05] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i'm also wondering whether the hardware is just not compatible, i.e. this graphics card and this computer.
[16:05] <murthy> so... what did help for me is, I unmounted all the drives and deleted the folder that had the name of the mount point
[16:05] <murthy> for me that was DATA2
[16:05] <murthy> and that did it
[16:06] <dreamscape> tomreyn maybe but it works perfectly on windows
[16:06] <mgedmin> hmm didn't I have to manually apt install some packages to make luks work?
[16:06] <Deano59> dreamscape: use windows then.
[16:06] <tomreyn> dreamscape: oh, so you tried this graphics car don this computer on windows, and it worked there?
[16:06] <dreamscape> I hate windows with a passion
[16:06] <Deano59> me too.
[16:06] <dreamscape> Yes
[16:06] <dreamscape> Its a ubuntu issue
[16:06] <mgedmin> chakravanti: do you have the libblockdev-crypto2 package installed?
[16:06] <tomreyn> Deano59: i don't think that's what we should recommend as a workaround here. ;)
[16:07] <mgedmin> but no, that was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1757321, and it's "fix released"
[16:08] <Deano59> tomreyn: you're on a boat that's sinking and there's no help. just give up. :D
[16:08] <leftyfb> Deano59: can we help you with something?
[16:08] <Deano59> leftyfb: ?
[16:09] <chakravanti> Device /dev/sdb1 is not a valid LUKS device.
[16:09] <murthy> chakravanti: did you try?
[16:09] <chakravanti> ^^
[16:10] <murthy> chakravanti: Did you try unmounting all the drives?
[16:10] <chakravanti> i don't think that works
[16:10] <murthy> chakravanti: You mean you are not able to unmount?
[16:10] <chakravanti> how would i unmount the drive I running off?
[16:10] <leftyfb> murthy: please stop. We have already established that your issue is not the issue here
[16:10] <murthy> leftyfb: ok
[16:11] <tomreyn> dreamscape: so what will you do? purge all nvidia packages and get us a full system log, or reinstall, somethnig else?
[16:11] <leftyfb> chakravanti: lsblk -o +type /dev/sdb1
[16:11] <leftyfb> chakravanti: please pastebin the output
[16:12] <Deano59> how can I stop this from doing what it does after running a command with sudo? sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu: Name or service not known
[16:12] <tomreyn> dreamscape: it's possible that you'll be able to boot to graphical mode when booting with the    pcie_aspm=off     !kernelparm
[16:13] <tomreyn> but i'm just guessing, it'd be better to see a full log
[16:13] <leftyfb> Deano59: fix your hosts file
[16:13] <chakravanti> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w8hN4VTgfH/
[16:13] <Deano59> leftyfb: nothing wrong with my hosts file.
[16:13] <dreamscape> Ok tomreyn just reinstalling
[16:14] <dreamscape> Though once i install any nvidia drivers my only option will be recovery again
[16:14] <tomreyn> dreamscape: then dont
[16:14] <tomreyn> at least not until networking is enabled
[16:15] <tomreyn> and configured
[16:15] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sudo parted /dev/sdb
[16:15] <dreamscape> Network will work fine once im in the gui again.
[16:16] <chakravanti> okay...
[16:16] <tomreyn> dreamscape: normally, when you have ethernet networking and dhcp, networking would also work fine from the recovery (after selecting the otion to enable it there)=
[16:16] <chakravanti> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MrHwNqQMtP/
[16:17] <tomreyn> dreamscape: so i'm unsure why it didn't work for you. we can try to find out about this after you reinstalled
[16:17] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[16:17] <tomreyn> dreamscape: but please don't install nvidia drivers for now
[16:18] <chakravanti> command not found :/
[16:18] <chakravanti> oh wait never mind
[16:19] <chakravanti> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhxhwwnMKD/
[16:19] <dreamscape> tomreyn getting the issue from a fresh install now...
[16:21] <tomreyn> dreamscape: did you install nvidia drivers?
[16:21] <dreamscape> No
[16:21] <dreamscape> Ah wait im in now
[16:21] <tomreyn> dreamscape: what does it mean to "be in"?
[16:22] <dreamscape> The gui of the os on x.org drivers
[16:22] <dreamscape> With nomodeset in grub
[16:22] <tomreyn> so nomodeset was needed even though nvidia proprietary drivers are not installed?
[16:23] <leftyfb> chakravanti: looks to me like there's nothing on that drive other than an EFI boot partition and a 3.7G unformatted partition
[16:23] <dreamscape> Yea
[16:23] <tomreyn> okay, do you have networking?
[16:23] <dreamscape> Yes
[16:23] <tomreyn> internet access?
[16:23] <chakravanti> there was an installtion of ubuntu that ran out of data on the hard rive and refuses to boot
[16:23] <dreamscape> Yes
[16:24] <tomreyn> dreamscape: please post the url returned by   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:24] <chakravanti> and now it's really eliminated?  from what.  this is why i hate ubuntu.
[16:24] <leftyfb> chakravanti: oh wait, you said LVM. Try: sudo pvscan
[16:24] <dreamscape> I need to go on the pc hang on
[16:25] <chakravanti> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7mvRWKcqSS/
[16:25] <dreamscape> tomreyn ok, what was the command again sorry
[16:25] <dreamscape> im on the pc now
 dreamscape: please post the url returned by   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:26] <tomreyn> it may be better to be logged in here with two irc clients, just in case
[16:26] <dreamscape> https://termbin.com/c6gk
[16:26] <dreamscape> I know but i only have one registered with freenode
[16:27] <tomreyn> dreamscape: you can have multiple users (with different nickanmes) logged in to the same account, but i don't want to guide on this now (ask in #freenode for thie later)
[16:27] <tomreyn> dreamscape: the url you posted returns a "not found" message
[16:28] <dreamscape> https://termbin.com/c6gkv
[16:28] <dreamscape> works for me?
[16:28] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sudo luksOpen /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt newmountname # replace namemountname with what name you'd like you mount it as
[16:28] <tomreyn> *this* one works, yes
[16:29] <tomreyn> dreamscape: now run:    sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade    and fdo another reboot. first without nomodeset, then (if you need to), with it
[16:29] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i'll read your log in the meantime
[16:29] <dreamscape> ok
[16:29] <chakravanti> sudo: luksOpen: command not found
[16:30] <leftyfb> ops
[16:30] <chakravanti> huh?
[16:30] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt newmountname # replace namemountname with what name you'd like you mount it as
[16:30] <chakravanti> got it
[16:30] <chakravanti> Device /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt is not a valid LUKS device.
[16:32] <chakravanti> also: Device /dev/mapper/sdb2_crypt doesn't exist or access denied.
[16:33] <leftyfb> chakravanti: ok, sudo vgscan
[16:33] <leftyfb> chakravanti: then sudo lvdisplay
[16:35] <chakravanti> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bNC5cC83y7/
[16:36] <dreamscape> tomreyn rebooting will be back
[16:36] <leftyfb> chakravanti: is your current drive LVM encrypted?
[16:36] <chakravanti> yes
[16:39] <mgedmin> oh, could be a naming clash
[16:39] <mgedmin> two unrelated volume groups both named 'vgbuntu'
[16:39] <mgedmin> it's annoying; it's why I started naming my volume groups by hostname back when I used lvm everywhere
[16:40] <leftyfb> mgedmin: yeah, though this is all created during the ubuntu install. I forget if it asks you about naming during that process
[16:40] <chakravanti> it doesnt
[16:40] <leftyfb> chakravanti: you can try booting an ubuntu live usb while your current OS drive is unplugged. Then try recovering using the tools I posted above.
[16:41] <mgedmin> nope, I had to manually `vgrename ubuntu-gnome-vg platonas` on this laptop here that I installed from ubuntu-gnome 16.04 lts media
[16:41] <dreamscape> tomreyn im back, nomodeset was needed again
[16:41] <dreamscape> all updated though
[16:41] <leftyfb> chakravanti: I would not suggest renaming the volume group unless you have a backup first
[16:42] <mgedmin> ah, and then fix up fstab and grub.cfg after the rename, it was a whole fun adventure
[16:42] <chakravanti> they ARE the backup :/
[16:42] <tomreyn> dreamscape: your log says "secure boot is enabled" - didn't you say you disabled it in bios?
[16:43] <dreamscape> it was yes... hmm.. i can double check
[16:43] <tomreyn> please do, also double check that aspm is enabled
[16:43] <dreamscape> will do
[16:43] <leftyfb> chakravanti: no, a backup means you have multiple copies. This drive was the main/only bootable copy you had. I would suggest booting to live usb with your current OS drive physically unplugged and copying the data from this "backup" drive elsewhere.
[16:44] <Deano59> leftyfb: my hosts file is fine. still happens... :D
[16:45] <leftyfb> Deano59: does your hosts file match your hostname? Did you recently change your hostname?
[16:45] <Deano59> sec
[16:46] <Deano59> not changed it, no leftyfb but; https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rGVdnFsRWH/
[16:47] <leftyfb> Deano59: you do not have a valid hosts file. You're missing the entry for your hostname
[16:47] <Deano59> leftyfb: hm, what do I put?
[16:47] <leftyfb> 127.0.1.1 ubuntu
[16:48] <Deano59> you mean 127.0.0.1? but yes, thanks; working.
[16:48] <leftyfb> Deano59: no, 127.0.1.1
[16:48] <Deano59> that's wrong.
[16:48] <leftyfb> Deano59: no, it's not
[16:49] <Deano59> yes it is. read it again. I added 127.0.0.1 ubuntu and it's working. yours misses a 0 and adds a 1 :D
[16:49] <ogra> but you now broke localhost
[16:49] <Deano59> ?
[16:49] <ogra> you need two lines there
[16:49] <leftyfb> Deano59: 127.0.1.1, not 127.0.0.1
[16:49] <ogra> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[16:50] <leftyfb> Deano59: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=316099
[16:50] <ogra> 127.0.1.1 <your actual hostname>
[16:50] <Deano59> ogra: 2 lines?
[16:50] <ogra> yes
[16:50] <Deano59> what other line apart from the one leftyfb said?
[16:50] <ogra> ogra@acheron:~$ head -2 /etc/hosts
[16:50] <ogra> 127.0.0.1	localhost
[16:50] <ogra> 127.0.1.1	acheron
[16:51] <dreamscape> tomreyn I'm back
[16:51] <dreamscape> secure boot disabled now
[16:51] <dreamscape> the other thingyou said is enabled too
[16:51] <tomreyn> dreamscape: so secure boot was previously enabled in bios?
[16:51] <dreamscape> yes
[16:52] <Deano59> thanks ogra :)
[16:52] <tomreyn> dreamscape: okay, but booting withioout nomodeset still failed?
[16:52] <dreamscape> yes
[16:52] <tomreyn> dreamscape: please post:   journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:52] <dreamscape> it's a nightmare isn't it.. i'm begging this machine to work it's so fast.
[16:52] <tomreyn> dreamscape: then, please post:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:53] <dreamscape> ok
[16:53] <dreamscape> https://termbin.com/ozgd
[16:53] <dreamscape> https://termbin.com/zstxk
[16:54] <dreamscape> btw, termbin is awesome.
[16:54] <waltman> I'd like to send some praise to whoever did the desktop wallpaper for 20.10. Excellent job this time around!
[16:57] <tomreyn> dreamscape: okay, so i can now compare your two logs from the current (with "nomodeset", secure boot disabled) and previous boot (without "nomodeset", secure boot disabled). this will take a couple more minutes.
[16:57] <ogra> waltman, if you put it there it will be seen by the right people: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-mascot-wallpapers/18670
[16:57] <dreamscape> no problem take your time, thanks again for all this help. if we get this machine working i will be so happy as its so much faster than my older lenovo
[17:02] <AbuMaia> Hi folks. I have a 500gb drive that's almost full, that I'm preparing to replace with a 1tb ssd. My current install is all on one partition. When I copy everything over to the new drive, I would like to put /home on its own partition. Is there a good walkthrough somewhere that will help me do this?
[17:05] <leftyfb> AbuMaia: lookup rsync for copying file structures
[17:06] <EriC^^> AbuMaia: you might find this helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[17:07] <tomreyn> dreamscape: which hardware did you have previously?
[17:07] <dreamscape> on the old pc?
[17:07] <tomreyn> yes
[17:08] <dreamscape> its the same CPU just older (Pentium J 2900 vs Pentum 5005) 8gb DDR3 ram instead of the 4gb DDR4 i have here, exact same SSD. same brand (lenovo)
[17:08] <tomreyn> dreamscape: so, when you booted without "nomodeset", the open source "nouveau" driver loaded, as expected, and it ran into errors. which is not entirely unexpected either. with "nomodeset", there are no such errors, because nouveau does not load, but also graphics are unaccelerated.
[17:09] <dreamscape> also has SATA 3 vs SATA 2
[17:09] <tomreyn> dreamscape: yes, that's nice.
[17:09] <dreamscape> its basically a newer version of the same machine pretty much
[17:10] <dreamscape> yes, as it is the graphics are poor. its running at full res though but yeah... no good as is.
[17:10] <tomreyn> is there a chance that you never tried the proprietary nvidia driver without having secure boot diabled?
[17:10] <dreamscape> no i definetly tried this. I've been tinkering for literally a day now. i've tried all sorts of combinations.
[17:12] <tomreyn> either way, i think you should install the recommended (by ubuntu) proprietary nvidia driver now. you will most likely end up on the text interface again, but you should be able to get networking wroking, and we should be able to get another log with those drivers running, and secure boot diabled. a log i have not seen before.
[17:12] <dreamscape> I even tried Ubuntu 18 same issue
[17:13] <dreamscape> ok, shall i install from drivers from the nvidia site or just like idid before with addtional drivers?
[17:14] <tomreyn> dreamscape: nvidia drivers as offered by ubuntu
[17:14] <dreamscape> ok the latest 450 driver?
[17:14] <tomreyn> "you should install the recommended (by ubuntu) proprietary nvidia driver now"
[17:15] <tomreyn> i assume that's the 450 driver
[17:16] <dreamscape> its the latest, propriatary and tested driver.
[17:16] <dreamscape> it works on the other machine
[17:18] <dreamscape> how do i get networking working in recovery
[17:18] <tomreyn> dreamscape: you select the option which offers to enable networking
[17:19] <dreamscape> hmmm... im not sure if it has that
[17:19] <dreamscape> never seen it but i can try
[17:19] <dreamscape> just installing the drivers.
[17:20] <tomreyn> you'd select "network" here to enable the ethernet connection https://i.stack.imgur.com/RRKur.png
[17:20] <tomreyn> then "root" as i guess you did before
[17:21] <dreamscape> ohhh ok
[17:21] <dreamscape> it's installed the driver, hasn't even asked to reboot haha
[17:21] <dreamscape> but i will.. so will be back
[17:21] <tomreyn> hopefully
[17:21] <tomreyn> :)
[17:26] <dreamscape> Didnt work tomreyn but im in recovery now with network
[17:31] <tomreyn> dreamscape: good, can you post another log please
[17:31] <tomreyn> dreamscape: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:33] <dreamscape> Ok
[17:34] <tomreyn> your exact model sells for 240 pounds on ebay (new). i'm wondering about the price to see which (better) alternatives there can be.
[17:35] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/9hp8o
[17:36] <dreamscape> Dont worry if this doesnt work i will just use my old one
[17:36] <tomreyn> dreamscape: oh, sorry, i requested the wrong log, let's try again:  journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:37] <dreamscape> Termbin/4xnb
[17:37] <dreamscape> .com sorry
[17:37] <tomreyn> one character missing after the /
[17:37] <tomreyn> actually not, its fine
[17:37] <dreamscape> Thats what it gave me. Il make another
[17:38] <tomreyn> but this is also nomodeset
[17:38] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/qppe
[17:38] <dreamscape> It shouldnt be?
[17:39] <tomreyn> so at 17:33:00 you booted with nomodeset, also at 17:33:50
[17:39] <dreamscape> Oh, yeah i tried it. Currently its off
[17:39] <dreamscape> I was trying with the new driver
[17:40] <tomreyn> dreamscape: maybe it was the last but two:  journalctl -b -2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:41] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/f2cp
[17:41] <tomreyn> also nomodeset
[17:41] <tomreyn> 17:32:14
[17:41] <tomreyn> you can also run journalctl --list-boots   to see when you last booted
[17:46] <tomreyn> dreamscape: let's try this (much to type, but it seems the best approach):    for id in $(seq 0 9); do echo -n "$id  "; journalctl -b -$id | grep 'Command line'; echo; done
[17:46] <dreamscape> Termbin/cxlx0
[17:47] <dreamscape> Thats my last boot
[17:47] <dreamscape> Wait no... Erm..
[17:48] <tomreyn> then look for the first line which does *not* have "nomodeset", and tell me the number given at the start of this line
[17:49] <dreamscape> Synax error
[17:50] <dreamscape> Im giving up
[17:50] <tomreyn> only if you typed it wrong
[17:50] <tomreyn> your other option would be to reboot again, exactly two times. once normally, once with the recovery option
[17:50] <dreamscape> I have no idea which ones are which
[17:51] <tomreyn> you know the grub menu, right?
[17:51] <dreamscape> Cant access it
[17:51] <tomreyn> you can't access the grub menu? didn't you do that earlier?
[17:51] <dreamscape> Never have been able to. Shift does nothing
[17:52] <tomreyn> how would you have access the terminal then?
[17:52] <tomreyn> how would you have booted to the terminal then?
[17:52] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/m1wo
[17:53] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/e115
[17:53] <tomreyn> i'm qouting (2nd line of output": "Oct 25 17:51:27 j-ideacentre-310S-08IGM kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-52-generic root=UUID=7085142f-bcb6-4d91-b325-15236d93c92b ro recovery nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr"
[17:53] <dreamscape> Then its recovery doing it
[17:53] <dreamscape> Not grub
[17:54] <dreamscape> And it wont boot without it
[17:54] <tomreyn> when you select the "recovery" option from grub, it will include "nomodeset" by default"
[17:54] <tomreyn> but then you just said you can't access the grub menu at all
[17:54] <tomreyn> which makes no sense
[17:54] <dreamscape> Im getting confused
[17:55] <dreamscape> Hammer for this pc... Its highly tempting
[17:56] <dreamscape> Those are my 2 latest boots so if its got nomodeset in it i cant turn it off because the machine wont boot
[17:56] <dreamscape> Just does the issue again
[17:56] <tomreyn> that's what i want to happen, though
[17:56] <dreamscape> Oh so you can see the error? Right ok sorry
[17:57] <tomreyn> just do a normal, unmodified boot, lkeep it running as long as it wiull. then reboot to recovery.
[17:57] <dreamscape> Ok sorry iv been at this for a entire day now my head isnt with it.
[17:58] <dreamscape> Doing a unmodded boot now
[17:58] <tomreyn> ;-) ok
[17:59] <dreamscape> Termbin.com/601ye
[18:02] <tomreyn> dreamscape: thanks, that's the right one.
[18:05] <dreamscape> Ok thanks
[18:06] <tomreyn> so we're stuck with these two messages:
[18:06] <tomreyn> kernel: NVRM: GPU 0000:01:00.0: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x26:0xffff:1266)
[18:06] <tomreyn> kernel: NVRM: GPU 0000:01:00.0: rm_init_adapter failed, device minor number 0
 dreamscape: it's possible that you'll be able to boot to graphical mode when booting with the    pcie_aspm=off     !kernelparm
[18:06] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | dreamscape
[18:06] <dreamscape> Ok i will give it a try
[18:08] <dreamscape> I can turn that off in the bios
[18:09] <dreamscape> Would that be better/easier
[18:12] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i think the bios option is for disabing ASPM in general, not just for pcie
[18:13] <tomreyn> we can still consider the bios change after you tried booting with this kernel option set
[18:13] <dreamscape> Just tried it, same issue
[18:13] <dreamscape> Aspm is under pci e settings in the bios
[18:15] <dreamscape> Same issue when disabled in the bios too
[18:16] <tomreyn> okay, so this must be unrelated
[18:16] <tomreyn> we also have this error message, which i'm not familiar about - may be unrelated:
[18:17] <tomreyn> Oct 25 17:57:17 j-ideacentre-310S-08IGM kernel: Invalid pltconfig, ensure IPC1 device is enabled in BIOS
[18:17] <dreamscape> Not sure what that is
[18:19] <tomreyn> it's irrelevant according to https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/platform-driver-x86/patch/20180903180415.31575-4-rajneesh.bhardwaj@linux.intel.com/
[18:19] <dreamscape> Ok good news i guess.. this is so strange
[18:23] <tomreyn> dreamscape: i can't seem to find good bug reports on this issue. you could file some, but i understand you will need to return the hardware by tomorrow. so i don't think this is worth sinking more time into.
[18:24] <dreamscape> Thats what i was thinking
[18:24] <dreamscape> Really sad... The machine is so fast... But i guess its got to go back :(
[18:27] <dreamscape> tomreyn as a last ditch effort maybe my original post may shed some light
[18:27] <dreamscape> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/graphics-card-nvidia-gt-1030-wont-work-on-lenovo-pc-ubuntu/22911
[18:27] <tomreyn> dreamscape: we can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, and i'll look for alternatives if you can tell me your budget for computer + graphics card.
[18:28] <tomreyn> it would also be interesting to see whether you can boot fine with a default ubuntu installation
[18:28] <tomreyn> actually, no, this wouldn't make a difference, i think
[18:29] <dreamscape> Its ok i still have my old pc. Il stick with it as it works. Just means no gigabit lan, ddr3, sata 2 :(
[18:30] <tomreyn> default ubuntu uses the "gdm" login manager rather than "lightdm" one ubuntu mate uses, which can make a difference. but not in your case, because "RmInitAdapter failed! " occurs before the display manager loads
[18:30] <dreamscape> Slower cpu too cant do 1080p youtube which was what i wanted
[18:31] <dreamscape> I see, yeah i love the MATE GUI too not too keen on normal ubuntu
[18:32] <tomreyn> dreamscape: the hardware discussion would be off topic here so that's why i'm suggesting #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:33] <dreamscape> Thanks for your help today
[18:33] <tomreyn> there's also ##hardware if you'd like more suggestions
[18:33] <tomreyn> you're welcome.
[18:34] <tomreyn> i think you would have a good, and much better, experience with a current integrated amd platform
[18:40] <tomreyn> dreamscape: other volunteers pointed out that the power supply this computer provides may well be insuffcient to power this graphics card
[18:41] <dreamscape> Not true, iv used the same psu on my other pc for years with no issues
[18:41] <dreamscape> Cpu is only 10w
[18:41] <dreamscape> Gpu is 30w under load
[18:41] <tomreyn> dreamscape: so you are no using the PSU the system came with?
[18:41] <dreamscape> Yes i am
[18:41] <tomreyn> becusase thats just 65W
[18:41] <tomreyn> https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/IdeaCentre/ideacentre_310S08IGM?M=90HX000PUK
[18:42] <dreamscape> It works perfectly. The power supply for both machines are the same
[18:42] <dreamscape> Cpu wattage and gpu wattage are the same both have ssd's
[18:43] <dreamscape> Iv gamed doom eternal on my old one and it was perfect. Its not a power issue thats for certain
[18:43] <tomreyn> well, it's a very narrow calculation. but this is more of a ##hardware topic
[18:44] <dreamscape> My old pc is back up now running fine.
[18:44] <tomreyn> i'm not saying it IS this, just meant to point it out as a possible source of problems.
[18:44] <tomreyn> good :)
[18:45] <dreamscape> 10w cpu 4watt max ssd 30 watt max gpu mainboard say 8 watts loads if room still
[18:47] <dreamscape> Yeah i understand. But the same machine just older has run since 2016 sometimes playing heavy games and video encoding its been fine for years. Its had a 710 gpu and 1030 gpu all perfect. I know what you are saying but its honestly fine. Its so low power this stuff which is why i buy it.
[19:26] <ldsh> Hi, after upgrades, the structure of /sys/class/hwmon/ seems to change (for instance, seems like my temperature sensors moved from hwmon1 to hwmon2. Is there a logic behind these numbers and possibility to have a more robust way to reference them?
[19:32] <sumagna> i was writing a C program when i came upon this weird thing.
[19:32] <sumagna> i was using sizeof(h) where h is an unsigned char * variable.
[19:33] <sumagna> i noticed that even if there is more than 8 characters in it, it still shows sizeof(h) is 8.
[19:33] <tomreyn> sumagna: and this related to ubuntu how?
[19:33] <sumagna> what is happening here? Can anyone please explain this?
[19:34] <sumagna> tomreyn: i dont know but thought that i can ask here.
[19:34] <sumagna> if you know a better place to ask, can you tell me?
[19:34] <tomreyn> i guess a C programming related channe would be better
[19:35] <sumagna> you know one?
[19:35] <tomreyn> !alis
[19:35] <ldsh> ##C ?
[19:36] <mgedmin> sumagna: unsigne char * is a pointer, pointers are 8 bytes on 64-bit systems
[19:36] <sumagna> thanks for that
[19:36] <sumagna> mgedmin: thanks for that.
[19:36] <sumagna> how can i get the real length of it though?
[19:36] <mgedmin> ask in a C-related programming channel, they'll tell you about strlen()
[19:37] <sumagna> ok
[19:40] <CoJaBo> So, I'm trying to get hibernate/resume working on my other laptop. Finally got it to hibernate properly, but now I'm trying to get resume working. I've added this to kernel command line resume=UUID=[theUUID of the swap partition] resumedelay=10 resumewait
[19:40] <CoJaBo> When it goes to resume, I see the message about waiting 10 seconds, then it shows some USB stuff, then it just hangs. Should it be printing any status messages at this point, or how do I know what is going wrong?
[19:41] <CoJaBo> (also asked this in linux, but I don't think there's anyone there right now)
[20:00] <deadmund> Help, I was trying to setup pihole on my Ubuntu 18.04.5 install and it wasn't working.  I decided to uninstall it (using this command: sudo rm -rf /etc/.pihole /etc/pihole /opt/pihole /usr/bin/pihole-FTL /usr/local/bin/pihole /var/www/html/admin) and now I have no networking on my machine.  I am comfortable on the command line.  It seems like network-manager is gone.
[20:04] <tomreyn> deadmund: if you combine the "rm" command is with these options it becomes very dangerous, and just mistying a single character can result in the system being completely deleted.
[20:04] <deadmund> yeah
[20:04] <tomreyn> i assume this (or similar) is what happened
[20:04] <tomreyn> you will probably need to reinstall
[20:05] <deadmund> tomreyn: yeah thanks,
[20:05] <deadmund> tomreyn: how do I setup networking on command line ubuntu?
[20:05] <tomreyn> on a desktop? nmcli
[20:05] <deadmund> tomreyn: yeah, it was a desktop install.  I don't have nmcli installed
[20:06] <deadmund> tomreyn: I'm also missing ifup and ifdown
 you will probably need to reinstall
[20:06] <deadmund> tomreyn: I do have ip route, route, ifconfig and a few select others
[20:06] <tomreyn> did you see what i wrote?
[20:08] <deadmund> tomreyn: It seems that you don't know how to do what I'm asking.  So you're suggesting I re-install.  I would like to see if someone can actually help me get out of the spot I'm in so I can learn a little bit about Linux networking configuration on the command line.
[20:08] <CoJaBo> Anyone happen to know anything about linux hibernate?
[20:08] <mgedmin> deadmund: wifi or etherner?
[20:09] <CoJaBo> Best I can determine from the source is the hang is happening because of resumewait, and the resume= device never appears. But I can't figure out why it never appears :/
[20:09] <mgedmin> deadmund: do you have an /etc/network/interfaces?  is ifupdown installed?
[20:11] <MrMobius> anyone know why resolution defaults back to 800x600 after restart in VirtualBox?
[20:40] <fwef64> Hi, I just installed 20.10 and when choosing a font for the gnome-terminal it randomly picks width and style for me and won't let me choose differently. E.g. when I search for ubuntu mono I can only see bold+italic but can't choose nothing else.
[20:42] <fwef64> Here's a screenshot of what I mean: https://imgur.com/a/Y6oXDA4 Anyone knows why this happens?
[20:44] <mgedmin> weird, let me try
[20:44] <mgedmin> yeah, I can reproduce!
[20:44] <mgedmin> file a bug
[20:45] <mgedmin> same thing happens with several other fonts (bitstream vera sans mono, freemono, courier new, tlwg mono)
[20:45] <fwef64> I have no idea how. Can someone point me to the bugzilla or whateve tool ubuntu uses to keep track of bugs?
[20:45] <mgedmin> ubuntu-bug gnome-terminal
[20:46] <mgedmin> (it's a command-line tool that collects information about the installed package version etc and opens a browser window to enter the bug report)
[20:46] <fwef64> great, thanks
[20:50] <mgedmin> fwef64: it's already been reported!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1900729
[20:52] <fwef64> mgedmin: Too late, I've already mine. But thanks for confirming for me and teaching me how to file bug reports!
[20:52] <mgedmin> as a workaround you could probably use dconf-editor to change the font
[20:54] <danielb> Is there a command-line option or something to enable creation of zfs zpools and datasets during a custom partition configuration? (I'm only seeing xfs and ext4 in the server .iso)
[20:54] <danielb> (In 20.10, sorry)
[20:57] <mgedmin> no idea, but you can get a root shell on tty2 on the server installer, and presumably do whatever you want there
[20:59] <danielb> I'll give that a shot.
[21:01] <javi404> I'm starting to feel like Ubuntu 20.04.1 is not ready for prime time.
[21:02] <javi404> gparted doesn't work out of the box, because reasons.
[21:02] <javi404> and now I can't log into my desktop after an update
[21:02] <javi404> probably because of whatever I did to make gparted work.
[21:02] <javi404> should have just booted from a gparted iso
[21:03] <spinningCat> i have many html files i want to merge them into one big html file how can i do that?
[21:04] <EriC^^> javi404: sudo chown -R ${USER}: ~/
[21:04] <danielb> javi404, apt install gparted is all I have to do to get gparted working
[21:04] <EriC^^> javi404: run that after logging into tty2 (ctrl+alt+f2), you probably ran sudo gparted and messed up your home dir permissions
[21:04] <danielb> spinningCat, cat *.html > all_html :D
[21:04] <spinningCat> really
[21:04] <spinningCat> :D
[21:05] <spinningCat> is that simple?
[21:05] <danielb> Probably not what you want, but might be worth a shot. :) Maybe a quick script that reads the <body> sections of all files and concats them into a new html file?
[21:05] <EriC^^> javi404: run sudo -H gparted if you want to run any gui apps with sudo
[21:09] <mgedmin> use gnome-disks instead of gparted
[21:10] <mgedmin> gui code shouldn't run as root
[21:14] <spinningCat> cat ignore some files weirdly
[21:18] <danielb> spinningCat, maybe try with `ls` first and make sure your glob is hitting the files you want. (Maybe some end with .htm and others .html?)
[21:19] <spinningCat> all of them end with .html and it is like image01.html, image02.html ...
[21:21] <danielb> spinningCat, maybe there's an error in the way you're checking if cat is missing some files.
[21:22] <spinningCat> could be
[21:22] <spinningCat> hmm
[21:22] <spinningCat> how can i make sure it gets every file?
[21:23] <danielb> spinningCat, one method would be to run du -s image[0-9][0-9].html to get the total file size in bytes, then compare that to the size of the concatenated file. Shoudl be the same.
[21:26] <spinningCat> cani give one of [0-9] optional
[21:27] <spinningCat> i have 95 html file each of them 4kb
[21:27] <spinningCat> and the result is 36kb
[21:27] <spinningCat> it must be 360kb or something
[21:28] <spinningCat> so probably cat miss some of files
[21:32] <EriC^^> spinningCat: what command are you running?
[21:32] <spinningCat> cat *.html > file.html
[21:33] <EriC^^> are there any .HTML files maybe?
[21:33] <danielb> spinningCat, try: du --total *.html to get the total in bytes, then du file.html to compare.
[21:33] <danielb> (I said -s earlier, but it should have been --total)
[21:34] <spinningCat> danielb,  html files total is 380kb
[21:34] <mgedmin> if you du *.html, that includes file.html; if you then cat *.html > file.html, that truncates file.html before cat sees it
[21:34] <spinningCat> the size of file is 36kb
[21:35] <mgedmin> ok, the difference is not 50% so it's not that
[21:35] <spinningCat> actually i checked before creating that html
[21:36] <mgedmin> any html files with filenames starting with a dash, that cat might interpret as command-line options?
[21:36] <mgedmin> does cat ./*.html > file.html help?
[21:36] <spinningCat> let me see
[21:36] <EriC^^> spinningCat: does find -name '*.html' -exec cat {} >> file.html \;    help?
[21:37] <EriC^^> maybe there are some *.HTML or *.htm files?
[21:38] <spinningCat> guess i understand the issue
[21:39] <spinningCat> the problem is some of files ends with one digit like img1, img2
[21:39] <spinningCat> and there is img10, img20
[21:40] <spinningCat> cat read like img1, img10... img2, img20
[21:40] <spinningCat> i will change it img01, img02
[21:40] <spinningCat> hopefully it will solve the problem
[21:42] <spinningCat> done
[21:45] <spinningCat> i nailed it thanks for contribution
[22:34] <Kon> I failed to upgrade from up-to-date Bionic to Focal. The attempt aborted with "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[22:35] <Kon> Errors on python-minimal and libpython-stdlib
[22:35] <Kon> In the apt log, 67 breaks
[22:35] <Kon> Most pertaining to Python2 or Qt4, it seems
[22:36] <Kon> Isn't that the major change in Focal? I'm surprised the script is having issues dealing with those
[22:39] <Kon> There are 32 held packages. Mostly prefering to hold "rather than change libavcodec58"
[22:40] <Kon> Of course Bionic is on libavcodec57
[22:41] <Kon> Oh interesting. In that case, the 64-bit library was held back because of the 32-bit
[22:53] <tomreyn> Kon: remove your third party packages (those are generally unsupported) before upgrading.
[22:54] <tomreyn> apt-forktracer can help you identify what's left to be removed afterwards
[22:55] <Kon> tomreyn: I'm looking through the apt log now and all of the breaks are on very standard libs from the Ubuntu repo
[22:56] <Kon> And the packages being held due to the broken packages, likewise
[22:56] <tomreyn> search for "Foreign:"
[22:57] <tomreyn> in the dist-upgrade log
[22:57] <Kon> Oh there's loads. It thinks half my KDE packages are foreign
[22:57] <tomreyn> see
[22:59] <Kon> Yes, I see fwupdate-signed, gcc-6-base, even my Python 3 installations, many native Kubuntu libraries are all in the foreign category
[22:59] <Kon> Yet these all come from the Ubuntu repos
[22:59] <tomreyn> in those very versions?
[23:00] <tomreyn> python installation*s*?
[23:00] <Kon> Yes, I haven't installed any extra gccs. The Python 3.6 is the one that came with the system. The Python 3.7 appeared in bionic-updates, and so on
[23:01] <Kon> Is this because I have multilib?
[23:02] <Kon> Wait I'm blind. The "Obsolete" category was inline with the Foreign category
[23:02] <tomreyn> oh right there are both python-3.6 and -3.7 on bionic
[23:04] <tomreyn> i think that if "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" only prints i386 you'll be fine
[23:05] <tomreyn> gcc-multilib itself shouldn't be a problem, i guess.
[23:12] <Kon> tomreyn: Tracking it down manually through the log, looks like every problem I've traced so far comes back to 32-bit libavcodec
[23:12] <Kon> It started a chain cascade that really breaks just about everything from plasma-workspace to akondai to wine
[23:13] <Kon> Still not sure about those Python 2 errors in the main log. Don't seem to appear in the apt log at all
[23:13] <tomreyn> i won't be able to comment on the artwork without seeing it
[23:14] <mgedmin> this sounds more unpleasant than my usual upgrade snafus
[23:22] <Kon> tomreyn: mgedmin: main.log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/55zKKHF9ks/ apt.log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/38rDm9XfTp/
[23:22] <Kon> Seems kdepim is a problem as well. Still trying to see if it's connected to avcodec somehow, but doubt it
[23:22] <tomreyn> oh, got to go now, good luck
[23:22] <Kon> But between those two, that covers all the held packages
[23:22] <Kon> lol Alright, take care
[23:23] <Kon> The 32-bit lib can be removed easily enough. Broken PIM is another story
[23:24] <Kon> Oh good, that all does trace back to libavcodecs as well
[23:24] <Kon> Meeting point of those two is Qt5 Web Engine widgets
[23:27] <mgedmin> !info libavcodec58 bionic
[23:27] <mgedmin> so, the system you're trying to upgrade is not a pure ubuntu, but a mix with some 3rd-party repos
[23:28] <mgedmin> it's a good idea to ppa-purge those before attempting ubuntu release upgrades
[23:28] <mgedmin> hm, focal has libavcodec58
[23:29] <mgedmin> ah, I see libavcodec58 was MarkInstall'ed because audacity depends on it
[23:30] <mgedmin> and then it decided to delete it?  no, I don't think I understand that log
[23:31] <Kon> mgedmin: the 64-bit version of libavcodec58 failed to install because the 32-bit version was broken and listed as a dependency of it's 64-bit twin
[23:32] <Kon> And there is no 32-bit version in Focal
[23:33] <Kon> Actually, there is
[23:33] <Kon> That's not good
[23:33] <mgedmin> isn't there?  I see an i386 version in https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libavcodec58
[23:33] <Kon> Yes, you're right
[23:34] <mgedmin> but libavcodec-extra58:amd64 conflicts with libavcodec58:i386?
[23:35] <mgedmin> well, libavcodec-extra58 Provides: libavcodec58 and Conflicts: libavcodec58
[23:35] <Kon> mgedmin: Seems to be it
[23:35] <mgedmin> is apt not smart enough to install libavcodec-extra58:i386 to satisfy the need for libavcodec:i386?
[23:35] <Kon> That would be quite frustrating indeed
[23:35] <mgedmin> it may be best to file a release upgrade bug and have actual qualified people look at the logs
[23:37] <Kon> Likely
[23:38] <Kon> I just "downgraded" to libavcodec57 because I very much doubt I need the OpenCORE codec provided by -extra
[23:38] <Kon> I think I'll attempt another go
[23:41] <mgedmin> at least the failure is early in the PreUpgrade state, and not with half of your system upgraded and half not
[23:41] <Kon> mgedmin: Yep, you were exactly right. Line 1809-1812
[23:41] <Kon> Broken libavcodec-extra58:amd64 Conflicts on libavcodec58:i386
[23:45] <davido_> 20.10: "Errors were encountered while processing: acpi-call-dkms"
[23:46] <davido_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/45NVSSqft3/
[23:46] <mgedmin> what's in /var/lib/dkms/acpi-call/1.1.0/build/make.log ?
[23:47] <davido_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F3KjHzqp5m/
[23:48] <davido_> (that paste was for mgedmin)
[23:49] <mgedmin> interesting, both of those files exist in /usr/src/linux-headers-5.8.0-25-generic/ on my 20.10 system
[23:49] <mgedmin> do you have linux-headers-generic installed?
[23:50] <davido_> dpkg --list |grep linux-headers finds ii linux-headers-generic ... 5.8.0.25.30
[23:50] <davido_> I wonder if a reinstall of that package would be useufl.
[23:51] <davido_> useful
[23:51] <mgedmin> dpkg --verify linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[23:52] <mgedmin> or check if the files exist with ls, maybe the dkms error is lying and the real problem is something else?
[23:52] <davido_> Want me to paste the output into ubuntu paste?
[23:52] <mgedmin> oh, you get output?  for me dpkg --verify exits silently with status code 0
[23:53] <davido_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XWkpJYrFpd/
[23:54] <mgedmin> that doesn't look good
[23:54] <davido_> I suspect there may have been a conflict with virtualbox. I've since removed that application for now, to reduce moving parts.
[23:54] <mgedmin> yeah, apt install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r) should fix this
[23:54] <mgedmin> I wonder how one's supposed to interpret that dpkg --verify output
[23:54] <mgedmin> I think I'll stick with debsums
[23:55] <davido_> runing that now.
[23:55] <davido_> running
[23:56] <davido_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3WqS6VGvQw/
[23:57] <mgedmin> that's the output of which command?
[23:57] <davido_> Of your apt install --reinstall suggestion.
[23:57] <davido_> Also, this may be of interest: https://stackoverflow.com/a/62070219/716443
[23:58] <mgedmin> ah, since acpi-call-dkms is installed but not configured so apt retries configuring it
[23:58] <mgedmin> so restoring the kernel headers didn't fix the problem
[23:58] <davido_> seems so.
[23:58] <mgedmin> is the build log showing the same error?
[23:59] <mgedmin> (/what/was/the/path/make.log, I mean)
[23:59] <mgedmin> also, is dpkg --verify still complaining about linux-headers?