| Dean_Guss | I saw this in journalctl: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e44f4705/ | 00:54 |
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| Dean_Guss | Is this spam expected behavior?? | 00:54 |
| Dean_Guss | #embarrassing if so | 00:55 |
| JanC | are you talking about the MoTD stuff? | 01:11 |
| JanC | or something else? | 01:11 |
| Dean_Guss | JanC yep the content of the motd | 01:15 |
| JanC | MotD is sort of designed for that sort of stuff, I guess; and if you don't like it it shouldn't be hard to remove it... | 01:15 |
| JanC | probably remove motd-news-config | 01:15 |
| Dean_Guss | Designed to display somebody's advertisement? | 01:15 |
| Dean_Guss | It's quite clearly spam | 01:16 |
| Dean_Guss | disguised as "news" | 01:16 |
| mybalzitch | then go back to debian | 01:17 |
| Dean_Guss | I probably will | 01:17 |
| Dean_Guss | because that's pretty outrageous | 01:17 |
| mybalzitch | 01:17 | |
| JanC | IIRC Debian also has some MotD thing that can spam about certain software :) | 01:17 |
| Dean_Guss | damn, really JanC? I haven't run debian in forever | 01:18 |
| JanC | obviously they will only promote packages that are in Debian | 01:18 |
| JanC | anyway, remove the package I mentioned above, and it should go away | 01:19 |
| Dean_Guss | I will.. but seriously, whose idea was it to include such spam? And where else is spam hidden on my system? | 01:20 |
| Dean_Guss | I prefer to be kosher and halal both! | 01:20 |
| JanC | you really shouldn't be surprised that Canonical news includes Canonical products | 01:21 |
| Dean_Guss | I guess you're right | 01:22 |
| Dean_Guss | I haven't run ubuntu in years either before this... the blatant spam just shocked the conscious I guess | 01:23 |
| JanC | and it seems to be open source too | 01:23 |
| Dean_Guss | I didn't realize it was a canonical product, at least that is better | 01:23 |
| Dean_Guss | but still pretty shocking | 01:24 |
| Dean_Guss | When you install an FOSS server OS you don't really expect to be spammed with commercial services | 01:25 |
| JanC | https://github.com/ubuntu/microk8s | 01:25 |
| Dean_Guss | but I guess I learned my lesson | 01:25 |
| JanC | it's not even a commercial service per se | 01:25 |
| JanC | more like an optional feature that's available for free? | 01:27 |
| Dean_Guss | Interesting ... well that feels better. Still, strange that they're pushing it in my motd | 01:28 |
| Dean_Guss | lol when I try to remove the package it says: | 01:30 |
| Dean_Guss | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 01:30 |
| Dean_Guss | motd-news-config ubuntu-server | 01:30 |
| Dean_Guss | I guess I can't remove it | 01:30 |
| JanC | you can probably just disable it also | 01:30 |
| Dean_Guss | yeah, I disabled the service | 01:30 |
| JanC | but removing a meta-package like ubuntu-server isn't going to destroy your server :) | 01:30 |
| Dean_Guss | oh good. here goes | 01:31 |
| Dean_Guss | ty JanC | 01:31 |
| JanC | it might get re-installed on system-upgrades | 01:32 |
| JanC | IIRC it's implemented using a PAM module, so I assume that's also the level where to disable it | 01:35 |
| rfm | I believe the "canonical" way of disabling it is changing to "ENABLED=0" in /etc/default/motd-news | 01:45 |
| TJ- | or deleting /etc/default/motd-news means it won't be replaced on package upgrades | 01:51 |
| TJ- | you can also selectively take away the 'x' mode bit from scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ to stop them doing anything | 01:51 |
| JanC | right, the /etc/default/ stuff likely is the best way | 02:43 |
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| Bebef | teward: So if I have used Livepatch three times. I obviously only get a token three times and that's it? Or will records for servers that don't exist any more expired after some time and then I can generate a new token? | 06:34 |
| TJ- | why does the subiquity installer have such a poor user experience? surely by now it should be ready for prime time | 07:26 |
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| coreycb | jamespage: are you ok with the RelWithDebInfo change going back to bionic? | 12:47 |
| jamespage | yep | 12:47 |
| coreycb | jamespage: ok I c an work on that unless you have something in flight | 12:47 |
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| teward | Bebef: I don't have an answer for you; Livepatch and how that stuff works is all Canonical's stuff and I don't have knowledge into the inner workings / tracking on that | 13:40 |
| teward | TJ-: define 'poor user experience' - usually most of the problems I see reported about subiquity involve user error :P | 13:47 |
| teward | (and most users are 'lazy' and don't like 'change' to how installation stuff works) | 13:47 |
| teward | (at least, that's what I've seen) | 13:47 |
| TJ- | teward: try being visually impaired or blind for example, with a screen reader or other assistive technology | 14:01 |
| teward | TJ-: and this somehow *wasn't* a problem for the d-i install method that we used to have? | 14:02 |
| teward | if the answer to that question is "it was a problem there too" then you've got a bigger problem | 14:02 |
| teward | because that means *all* the server installers have suffered that problem | 14:03 |
| TJ- | teward: d-i was pretty good | 14:03 |
| TJ- | being able to return to the menu and choose which step you wanted to access for example; whereas with subiquity all there is is "Done" or "Back" | 14:04 |
| teward | that wasn't my question | 14:05 |
| TJ- | the fact there is no obvious way to get the partitioner to rescan (as opposed to d-is partman doing it endlessly | 14:05 |
| teward | TJ-: sounds like this needs a thread on the ML or such, or bug reports for new features on subiquity. just my 2 cents | 14:05 |
| TJ- | yeah; i've posted 4 bug reports this morning | 14:06 |
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