[04:13] <n3rd> hloo
[04:13] <n3rd> anyone there
 Hi
 hi
 i need help
[08:38] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:38] <lordievader> !ask
 @Werner Copray, Software source button in settings. Then change in the app that gets launched
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:45] <user|64942> how to update from kubuntu 19 to kubuntu 20?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> user|64942, which 19 to which 20
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:51] <user|64942> 19.10 to 20.10
[12:59] <BluesKaj> do a clean install after backing up your data
 I'd backup your data anyway. But you could then try to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 and then from 20.04 to 20.10. You can't directly upgrade from 19.10 to 20.10.
 Initramfs unpacking failed: decoding failed
 I'm getting this error when I boot my pc
 Libvirl-guests.sh[1532]: running guests on default URI: … Libvirt-guests.sh[1541]: no running guests.
 This error when I reboot my system
[14:44] <Maik> @SharGen19 Initramfs unpacking failed: decoding failed is a known issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1870260
[14:47] <GordON12> Ai caramba
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[15:14] <zack31> hello, I have a problme with "lost mails" local foler with kmails, I strongly suspect akonadi db issues or kmail/akonadi connection pb...
[15:16] <zack31> I need to discuss with someone to help me to  recover my mails, or to redirect with someone that could...
[15:18] <zack31> perhaps I am not he only one with kmail issue since 19.10 -> 20.04 migration (many issues with pop, but I least I could see my local mailbox)  or maybe a recent KDE / PIM update that could have broke akonadi....
[15:19] <BluesKaj> zack31, if nobody answers your question I suggest asking in #kde chat...i haven't used kmail since 2008 so i'm way behind the curve on that one.
[15:20] <zack31> will connet to #kde at he same time...
[15:20] <zack31> but still help from k'ubintu welcomed :-)
[15:21] <zack31> I stay here also...
[15:24] <freiform> Hi, I remember that KDE had fractional scaling per display; now I can only find global scaling. Has this been removed?
[15:37] <zack31> someone is searching for my kmail/akonadi issue ?
[15:37] <freiform> ah, using plasma wayland enables scaling per display.
[15:39] <zack31> I had plenty of updates before I lost my mails
[15:41] <zack31> I got a massive one with new kernel and dkms, lots of kde stuff I think, may there is a link ?
[15:42] <zack31> I discovered the mail "disapearance" yesterday, and today I have seen mariaDB update again...
[15:43] <zack31> mariaDB is the akonadi database in kubuntu, no ? Where all my mail should be stored, correct ?
[15:44] <zack31> Anychance that this update has corrupted the database (schema chnage or something) ?
[15:46] <zack31> ok, how can I talk to kubuntu kontact/PIM/akonadi maintainer ?
[16:28] <Maik> zack31: probably through a bug report on Launchpad or #kubuntu-devel
[16:30] <zack31> salut Maik
[16:30] <Maik> @SharGen19 Kubuntu isn't Linux Mint so Xed isn't included
[16:30] <zack31> I have done some tehcnical invest
[16:31] <zack31> but I still want to understand better the root cause
[16:31] <Maik> @SharGen19 it's best learn to look for Kubuntu related solutions instead on the official Kubuntu channels and forums
[16:32] <Maik> zack31: i don't use Kubuntu/KDE Plasma or Kmail so my knowledge ends there
[16:33] <Maik> open a topic here: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum.php
[16:33] <zack31> I know, but they are 330 people here and 2100 in #kde
[16:33] <Maik> or try https://askubuntu.com/
[16:34] <zack31> ask ubuntu I had bad experience recently
[16:34] <Maik> zack31: though it seems a lot of people are in the channels it doesn't mean they are online 24/7
[16:35] <zack31> they are "green"
[16:35] <Maik> it doesn't mean they are at their computer
[16:36] <Maik> i'm also logged in 24/7 via quassel core others use Matrix or a bouncer
[16:36] <Maik> not so hard to understand imo
[16:36] <zack31> ok...
[16:36] <zack31> i understand for kubuntu
[16:36] <zack31> but kde, man 2100 !
[16:37] <zack31> kontact and PIm is their baby...
[16:37] <zack31> are sorry
[16:39] <Maik> the KDE channel is a support channel just like this one, not a dev channel. Support isn't what it used to be everywhere on IRC. We just have to be patient until someone comes along with the knowledge.
[16:39] <Maik> enough said for now on that subject :)
[16:40] <zack31> I am proably too old
[16:42] <Maik> what is old....
[16:42] <zack31> 48
[16:42] <Maik> age is just a number and with 47 i'm still learning every day
[16:43] <zack31> you dign't get it
[16:43] <zack31> I do not understand what irc support channel are nowadays
[16:44] <Maik> i did get it all
[16:44] <zack31> looks like community spirit, or technical knowledhe has disapeared
[16:44] <Maik> yep
[16:45] <zack31> ok anyway forthose interested, akonadi db is using mySQL (and I suspect Kubuntu use MariaDB)
[16:45] <Maik> it has always been up to the users/community to provide support
[16:45] <zack31> akonadi stores all "metadata" and other secondary data of PIM (and kontact)
[16:47] <Maik> zack31: all you could do is read the docs about KDE apps and how they work
[16:47] <zack31> the local data of kmail, for those that not trust IMAP and non free mail server provider, is stored in ~/.local/sahre/local-mails
[16:49] <zack31> there is a to repair akonadi db (akonadi fsck), I tried, didn't work
[16:50] <zack31> I know that I can "prune" all akonadi files to rebuild a clean stuff with my local mail
[16:50] <zack31> I think I will try soon
[16:54] <zack31> So I don't know if kmail can't connect akonadi, or if it can but my ID or something is preventing to fecth my data (so a kind of ID dicrepancy between kamil and akonadi)
[16:57] <zack31> or if my local-mail data is corrupted
[17:00] <zack31> Ok, i also don't know if I am the only one that encountered this bug, as nobody replies. So I can't tell if this is an akonadi or kmail package maintenance pb. So my bug report will be quite incomplete.
[17:01] <Maik> search Launchpad for bugs or open a bug there as suggested before
[17:02] <zack31> yes I will be do, I will help myself
[17:02] <zack31> "it has always been up to the users/community to provide support"
[17:03] <zack31> you got it, and looks like it is broken because I can't have any techncial discussion or irc support chat in 2 days....
[17:08] <Maik> we can keep on repeating it but it's pointless, take it as it is :)
[17:08] <Maik> you don't want to use ask ubuntu or the forums or any other support medium... so
[17:09] <zack31> are you a human ?
[17:10] <zack31> when you are in a community don't you want ot discuss with your friends ?
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[17:11] <Maik> zack31: i am human. Just being realistic about things as they are.
[17:11] <Maik> and this discussion isn't support related
[17:12] <Maik> you can contiue in #kubuntu-offtopic about that matter if you like
[17:12] <zack31> I am fecthing the web and losing and learning how this stuff is working, i am loosing my time. it is ore efficient to discuss to find quickly the pb.
[17:13] <zack31> ok i see
[17:14] <zack31> have a good day
[17:14] <Maik> o/
[17:22] <zack31> what is "support" here, give me an example ?
[17:22] <zack31> just to underdand your rules...
[17:30] <genii> zack31: When a user is having some difficulty using their Kubuntu, they can come to this IRC channel and describe the problem they are having. Other users and helpers in the channel can then try to assist them in resolving the problem.
[17:31] <zack31> ok, so exactly my case
[17:32] <Maik> zack31: we have been going through this for two days now. Do you really need to go on about it?
[17:32] <genii> For only social interaction and matters not related to solving a support problem, we have the #kubuntu-offtopic channel for more casual talk.
[17:33] <Maik> already told him that
[17:34] <zack31> this is a technical issue
[17:34] <zack31> ok, i am fed off
[17:34] <genii> What exactly is the technical issue which you require assistance with?
[17:34] <Maik> zack31: not your complains about the support, that has nothing to do with a technical issue. Period
[17:34] <genii> Heh, or not, then.
[17:37] <Maik> genii: he mentioned it yesterday and earlier what his issue is he needs help with: <zack31> hello, I have a problme with "lost mails" local foler with kmails, I strongly suspect akonadi db issues or kmail/akonadi connection pb... <zack31> I need to discuss with someone to help me to  recover my mails, or to redirect with someone that could...
[17:43] <Maik> zack31: i thought you'd try Thunderbird instead? Even gave you a link on how to import kmail data into thunderbird.
[19:32] <lun8288> 'sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop' worked ok, so installed the Kubunu desktop, now I need to identify the main desktop
[19:33] <lun8288> how do I do it?
[19:41] <Maik> i thought you said you'd go the reinstall route
[19:42] <Maik> log out and select Kubuntu from the login screen
[19:43] <lun8288> but I decided to give it a try and it worked
[19:43] <Maik> ok, cool
[20:51] <Deknos> hey, i use kwordquiz on kubuntu 18.04 (i know..) and i after entering more then 20 words, i do not see the new words, but they ARE saved in my wordquiz file. perhaps there was a hickup, when my computer crashed. any idea how i can fix my file?
 Hey guys, in Kubuntu 18.04, there was an option to see a Word Count in Kate.  It no longer seems to be there in 20.04, but I have a hard time believing this would be something that would have been removed.  Does anybody know how to show a word count in Kate?
[20:53] <Deknos> i already looked at the file with xmllint, the html file seems fine
[21:04] <Frappy> Hi, just installed kubuntu and I can’t get ethernet to work
[21:04] <Frappy> its stuck on setting network address and then fails with the message “IP config was unavailable”
[22:36] <R13ose> I've been using zoom a lot but my  video quality is bad.  How do I improve that?
 @zparihar, Ryan Van Massenhoven in the "TuxDigital (Linux)" channel answered this for me: … Settings > Configure Kate > Apperance >Show Word Count.
[23:08] <rowan> Hey
[23:17] <R13ose> Hi
[23:19] <guiverc> R13ose, people will answer as they're able... I don't use zoom so can't help with it sorry
[23:20] <R13ose> No problem!
[23:20]  * guiverc adds it's also 3rd party, so I can't use package queries to look up what it uses etc..