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 Hello!
 Does Ubuntu Touch work with practically every phone?
 only if its been ported
 think of it as similar to LineageOS, ot has to be ported before it will work
 @Javacookies [that looks edited? UT doesn't have that kind of "convergence" unless they implem …], lets hope they really did pull off the u4a type of thing, maybe like dex or maruos? otherwise that was a really bad choice for picture
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[07:35] <cc> excuse me ,how to install fcitx on ubtouch? i mean on libertine
[07:36] <cc> when i search fcitx on libertine,it has so many
[07:36] <cc> i dont know which one is correct
 @RX [Does Ubuntu Touch work with practically every phone?], There's a gsi version of it soo for devices that support treble yes
[07:46] <cc> can i install fcitx
 @VerenaFrey [The video shows the issue much better :). Sorry to bother you with this, if you …], I have once seen something very similar on a Nexus 4, here's the link to my post: … https://t.me/ubports/200907
 @cc [can i install fcitx], is it IME?
[08:10] <cc> https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fcitx
 you probably can't just install and use it
[08:10] <cc> i want to insatll a input
 @ruedigerkupper [I have once seen something very similar on a Nexus 4, here's the link to my post …], It looked as if the software was driving the lens so far it would hit the outer enclosure. And that would cause the wobbling. That was the best explanation I could think of. I replaced the camera, but this did not fix the problem.
[08:10] <ubptgbot> I never found out what was the real cause.
 if it is for Chinese, maybe someone can help here
[08:18] <cc> yes,
[08:18] <cc> i just want to use chinese
[08:18] <cc> when i connect keybord and mouse, i cant use input for chinese
 If the Chinese keyboard issue is a general problem we need to flag it somewhere
[09:28] <cc> maybe it's a bug
 Could be. Other users may have some experience. I wonder if it affects other languages?
[09:30] <cc> i just use english and chinese
[09:30] <cc> other languages i dont know
 I mean do we have the same in Russian and Japanese?
 If you have access to the forum, I recommend starting a topic there
 @Stereofont [I mean do we have the same in Russian and Japanese?], Russian and Japanese are not same in regards to input. Russian uses keyboard layout like English but with cyrillic letters, Japanese needs input engine like Chinese to convert (normally phonetic) input into characters
 @Stereofont [I mean do we have the same in Russian and Japanese?], [Edit] Russian and Japanese are not same in regards to input. Russian uses keyboard layout like English but with cyrillic letters, Japanese needs input engine like Chinese does to convert (normally phonetic) input into characters
 probably this issue is for CJK languages
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Sl0oLUVn.png
 Somethings off with the font rendering in morph? Though this is actually the only site that has the problem 🤔
 Which might be intentional? 😜
 I think intentional haha
 @Stereofont [I think intentional haha], Question is, from which side? Or both?🤔
 Sigh. Fonts in Browsers. Never meant to be definable like they are today, since fonts must normally be properly installed on the system. Maybe we use a fallback font and then it looks crazy.
 Try to inspect the DOM on a desktop browser and find the font name
 Renders normally on desktop
 Haha. Small 'r' is not affected…
 (Photo, 341x126) https://irc.ubports.com/dUsSLklG.png
 it's the quicksand font. as the site loads in Morph, first a different font is used until the rendering is completes, then quicksand is loaded and the font breaks
 @Stereofont [Haha. Small 'r' is not affected…], actually, the N and n are the only ones rendering correctly 😃
 R almost
 (Photo, 1051x198) https://irc.ubports.com/8jObRI8E.png
 (Photo, 559x101) https://irc.ubports.com/pggoYqP4.png
 @Flohack [Sigh. Fonts in Browsers. Never meant to be definable like they are today, since …], it looks to me like the Quicksand font is at least recognized, or we'd see the Ubuntu font, which surely is installed. so the Quicksand font is broken on UT?
 @YougoChats [it looks to me like the Quicksand font is at least recognized, or we'd see the U …], Well everything is possible, but its not a standard font, so maybe its downloaded incorrectly or so
 looked it up on Google Fonts, and it seems variable fonts aren't handled well by Morph.  should i make a bug report?
 You can but what can we do, its in QtWebEngine
 Its kinda sealed thingie. YOu can investigate with Qt :P
 hmm. okay given my skill level with Qt that's a dead end go me
 [Edit] hmm. okay given my skill level with Qt that's a dead end for me
 Reporting a bug is easy ^^
 that bit is in the works yes
 https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/402
 did anyone try using novnc in Morph?
 my friend reports that he can't move any windows and keyboard does not come up for him on text input
 @mateosalta [lets hope they really did pull off the u4a type of thing, maybe like dex or maru …], https://twitter.com/thefxtec/status/1320681805985550336?s=20
 https://twitter.com/thefxtec/status/1321026775732944898?s=20
[11:40] <ubptgbot> Mohamed Sayed was added by: Mohamed Sayed
 They are claiming it is a real picture, lets hope they put that feature in :)
 I don't really think having 2 different guis that change like that in a phone is to wise, I think its to much change, more bugs and issues, and more ram, CPU, and storage space used.
 I think unity 8 wont take a lot before its good enough as a desktop environment, I think the main issue is mouse and keyboard support in different apps. … The file manager for example is a mess when you use a mouse, so at the moment you might want seperate apps for desktop and mobile usage, but unity 8 is getting better and bett
[11:49] <ubptgbot> er as a desktop gui.
 hm is anyone working on a VNC client app
 @hacker12455 [hm is anyone working on a VNC client app], That needs to be implemented in Mir. But, so far as I'm aware, isn't on anyone's todo list. … https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/467
 thanks for the info and link to the issue
 my friend currently is using anbox and a vnc client in there
 suggested novnc but it has issues I listed above
 @hacker12455 [my friend currently is using anbox and a vnc client in there], Oh! I was misreading your post. I thought you wanted to VNC into the phone. Sorry!
 yeah I was wondering
 about the mir issue
[12:28] <ubptgbot> Václav Straka was added by: Václav Straka
[12:29] <ubptgbot> <Václav Straka> Can i here ask questions about the kernel patching needed for flashing the GSI?
 @Václav Straka [Can i here ask questions about the kernel patching needed for flashing the GSI?], See this channel if u cant answer here … @ubports_porting
 Hello, how's the status of vcard/caldav support in UT ?
 carddav sorry
 @hacker12455 [hm is anyone working on a VNC client app], i managed to install RealVnc (armhf) in libertine some while ago. it is tiny on a phone screen and you do need a mouse and keyboard (and libertine still has that portrait mouse space bug) but it works
 @mateosalta [They are claiming it is a real picture, lets hope they put that feature in :)], oh really? hmmm....I'd still prefer a Lomiri actual convergence though but would still be good if it's real.
 so it's an Indiegogo campaign. I thought this device is already available
 @mateosalta [https://twitter.com/thefxtec/status/1320681805985550336?s=20], https://twitter.com/FukumaAkio/status/1320786810545590272 scrolling down from your link i see this. aside from their cover display pitch, does mey eye spy UT phone app??
 @mateosalta [https://twitter.com/thefxtec/status/1320681805985550336?s=20], [Edit] https://twitter.com/FukumaAkio/status/1320786810545590272 scrolling down from your link i see this. aside from their cover display pitch, does my eye spy UT phone app??
 @mateosalta [They are claiming it is a real picture, lets hope they put that feature in :)], i'm sure the picture is real. what they claim is happening vs what is really happening may vary though. if this is a picture of a running session on both screens then they are either using isodrive or some form of u4a construction. either way r
[12:51] <ubptgbot> unning full blown Gnome+ubuntu gnome extensions from a phone will be one battle for the RAM
 @mateosalta [They are claiming it is a real picture, lets hope they put that feature in :)], I think someone just made a mistake
 yeah, Lomiri can already be a memory hog on its own 😄
 @YougoChats [https://twitter.com/FukumaAkio/status/1320786810545590272 scrolling down from yo …], first time I saw this video, that doesn't look like Lomiri but the phone apps looks familiar...
 @Javacookies [first time I saw this video, that doesn't look like Lomiri but the phone apps lo …], looks like a tweaked debian to me. but it's funny how they explain they accomplished phone calls 'last time', and then show ubports' dialer app 😃
 that's open source at work 😊 but funny still
 it would ve great though if they contribute 😄 … I remember plasma mobile using most of the UT core apps years ago
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control#/ (:
 https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/10/27/fxtecs-new-pro1-x-keyboard-slider-is-the-first-phone-to-ship-with-lineageos/
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw4B1H4h39I
 so Yumi is really at the back of the phone? awesome!
 and looks like Ubuntu on Android-like feature is real
 Wait both on same phone?
 At same time?
 Like nethunter?
 honestly it's still confusing … the campaign video shows gnome desktop. The screenshot in th indiegogo page shows Lomiri on the monitor
 you can choose which OS you want, it supports Lineage UT android
 there are a lot of things I don't like — very rounded corners, curved screen, big screen than my preferred size and the price LOL … but I'm seriously interested. I like the color 😄
 my biggest issue is the price. My bq E5 is the most expensive phone I ever bought. The rest are 2nd hands and the pinephone.
 I want one but a) I'm broke, b) i have 4 phones, soon go be 5
 I want one but a) I am broke
 anyway, this is a great news for UT … more exposure and big media entities might cover this device
 [Edit] I want one but a) I'm broke, b) i have 4 phones, soon to be 5
 @Javacookies [anyway, this is a great news for UT … more exposure and big media entities might c …], Yes, kinda saying to them "hey, Ubuntu Touch isn't actually dead"
 it doesn't have the latest snapdragon processor but it's the "flagship" device we've been looking for 😁
 835 runs everything
 yeah, I'm sure it's still great
 i mean it supports anything
 what do you mean by supoort though?
 It's been around for a while and it went in the correct devices, so the Android community knows how to build for it.
 oh I see
 (Photo, 500x236) https://irc.ubports.com/Oh5Bn2Xp.png
 I'm so tempted right now.....
 after rewatching the video, I was wrong. it is Lomiri on the monitor. So their tweeted image might be really wrong.
 @Javacookies [after rewatching the video, I was wrong. it is Lomiri on the monitor. So their t …], yes, the tweeted image is obviously wrong, as the phone also doesn't show the virtual touchpad mode
 maybe it's on edge channel 😆
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 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/TCqQrr12.png
 Yes should be like this
 I took this myself
[15:47] <ubptgbot> vamshi_vemula was added by: vamshi_vemula
 Is there any port for x00td ?
 HDMI on the phone never worked for me until yesterday
 @Sam [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-contro …], I do hope their eventual pricing doesn't shoot too far over the pre-early bird price
 Might buy one eventually then
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], you have the device? … It looks great already, just needs a landscape mode of ths lockscreen 😄
 @Javacookies [you have the device? … It looks great already, just needs a landscape mode of ths …], psst, that's one of the company's co-founders
 Liangchen is the founder of F(x)tec
 @UniversalSuperBox [psst, that's one of the company's co-founders], you know what? I had an idea as I just watched the podcast with them but I just wasn't sure LOL
 anyway, I'm really curious about the multi-display support that landed in edge so I was leading to that and perhaps someone try it show a sample 😅
 i just need to find someone to fund building the phone i want :P
 Newsflash: Their campaign is FUNDED!
 (Photo, 515x251) https://irc.ubports.com/wD3b6Fiw.png
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], That looks good, and the user experience  Unity8^WLomiri was intended for. … Good luck!
 @alan_griffiths [That looks good, and the user experience  Unity8^WLomiri was intended for. … Good …], it is and the dream of many people 😄
 everybody wants that
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/kE1LxRtS.webp
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Nzm7Y1d7.mp4
 Nice phone but too expensive for me.
 @Maik_aD [Nice phone but too expensive for me.], +1
 @Maik_aD [Nice phone but too expensive for me.], Same here, but if I didn't buy a phone 3 months ago, I would totally consider it...I've been wanting a modern slider phone for years.
 @Follpvosten [Same here, but if I didn't buy a phone 3 months ago, I would totally consider it …], me too, bought a Nokia 6.2. If i had known i could buy a PinePhone with UBPorts here in Belgium and this one that came out now i would have save my money.
 @Follpvosten [Same here, but if I didn't buy a phone 3 months ago, I would totally consider it …], [Edit] me too, bought a Nokia 6.2. If i had known i could buy a PinePhone with UBPorts here in Belgium and this one that came out now i would have saved my money.
 I'd consider selling my current phone, but I think I'd rather support the port for it now
[17:08] <ubptgbot> MoriOgaj was added by: MoriOgaj
 how i can set up vpn in ubuntu touch?
 is there any way to import ovpn config?
 configuration in settings is a bit hard to me
 @Bibarub [how i can set up vpn in ubuntu touch?], doh, I remeber it used to be in the indicators (network) but not anymore … you can launch system settings, and open the VPN menu :')
 @Bibarub [configuration in settings is a bit hard to me], bruh
 @Bibarub [bruh], sry, typed it before ^^
 i gues you can use a config file, but i don't know where it is located, maybe someone knows here
 I'm loving how many Ubuntu Touch phones we're getting these days!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/h65CUXPs.webp
 yep, me too :) … did you see the Pro1 X  ?
 @Bibarub [is there any way to import ovpn config?], not yet
 @arudy [yep, me too :) … did you see the Pro1 X  ?], Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with the Pro1 X though is that despite the fact that it would make a bulky phone, bulkier, I like the fact that I can remove my pinephones battery and replace it if I wish, and the privacy switches are a
[17:23] <ubptgbot>  pretty thing to! … Like, my perfect phone it pretty much if the Pro1 X and the PinePhone had a child! :') … I love the keyboard, I love the camera button, I've missed the camera button from my xperia t, like, I can't wait to see the future of FX technology and the Pine64 phones because they're both offering me features that I love!
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with th …], i love the pinephone, but mine is not received :/
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with th …], [Edit] i love the pinephone, but mine is not received :/ … yes, finally a dedicated cam button
 @arudy [i love the pinephone, but mine is not received :/ … yes, finally a dedicated cam b …], and curved border on ubuntu touch, yay
 I'm hoping the more cool interesting and different phones we get out there, the more and different kinds of developers will join our story you know?!
 yay :) … for me this phone is the best i've seen so far (i just wish all the manufacturer think like fairphone, because it matters)
 [Edit] yay :) … for me this phone is the best i've seen so far (i just wish all those manufacturers think like fairphone, because it matters)
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with th …], they said it is still possible to open it easly:  … https://youtu.be/zw4B1H4h39I?t=1046 … "the phone has been designed to open it without tools to replace the batteries"
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with th …], [Edit] they said it is still possible to open it easly:  … https://youtu.be/zw4B1H4h39I?t=1046 … "the phone has been designed to open it without tools to replace the batteries"
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah, I cant afford it atm, but it's looking really good! … my main thing with th …], [Edit] they said it is still possible to open it easly:  … https://youtu.be/zw4B1H4h39I?t=1046 … "the phone has been designed to open it without tools to replace the batteries" … the screen can by replaced in 5min without any glue
 i think all this explains why it is not so slim plus the keyboard, but the more i watch this video, the more i love this device
 @arudy [they said it is still possible to open it easly:  … https://youtu.be/zw4B1H4h39I?t …], Ooooo
 @arudy [i think all this explains why it is not so slim plus the keyboard, but the more …], as a owner of the device i like this device alot :P
 i have one on my desk
 @RealDanct12 [as a owner of the device i like this device alot :P], pics or it didnt happend :P
 @dohbee [not yet], i'm trying to connect, but unsuccessfully … can i pm u?
 @arudy [pics or it didnt happend :P], You bet.
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/t3P0d33k.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0O6qXkZu.mp4
 @Bibarub [i'm trying to connect, but unsuccessfully … can i pm u?], i don't have time to help/direct personally. you can import an ovpn file on a PC running network-manager (it's easy with the gnome openvpn stuff), and then copy the config file and keys onto the phone and put them in the right places
 @Bibarub [i'm trying to connect, but unsuccessfully … can i pm u?], everything can be asked here so that others can learn from it too ;)
 (Photo, 606x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/sHTbwR0X.png what's wrong?
 (Photo, 606x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/5R3DUSix.png
 (Photo, 606x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/PRbTvstO.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/wdoltLa9.txt
 ovpn config is public
 i deleted that (i hope nobody downloaded it)
 ovpn contains the keys to connect to the vpn
 @Bibarub [ovpn config is public], it's a public config
 so no matter to delete
 sorry for bad english, i'm russian
 @Bibarub [so no matter to delete], telegram doesn't have a feature to restore deleted messages. if it really is public and ok to share in public you can upload it again
 @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], How is it as a device?!?!
 so far awesome
 @RealDanct12 [so far awesome], you got one?
 not the X version
 @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], jealous ++;
 still... i'm jealous
 @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], jealous as heck, is it somehow feasible as a daily driver?
 you can use it as a daily driver
 but have not tried because im still using redmi 4x as a daily driver with android
[17:57] <ubptgbot> DrLeeB was added by: DrLeeB
 Since i've seen the AZERTY options (Bonjour), i have tears :'3
 @RealDanct12 [you can use it as a daily driver], Battery life ?!!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/wd1YOAGp.txt
 @Bibarub [<reply to media>], used these files
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/26sFLUSs.null
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/9lR9YIMN.null
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/LFYWXB56.null
 what i did wrong?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/13GDaYnI.png successfully installed ubuntu touch on redmi 4x using the installer (credit to nagendra on discord) :)
 can't wait to see this gets on people's hand
 @Bibarub [used these files], @arudy can u help me?
 @Bibarub [@arudy can u help me?], if someone has the time and ability to help you, they will try to do so. please don't ping arbitrary people to beg for help like this. thanks
 @dohbee [if someone has the time and ability to help you, they will try to do so. please …], as i told you, i hope someone know the filename of the vpn config because i don't know what it is, sorry
 @Bibarub [@arudy can u help me?], patience
 @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], sadly, stable isnt booting :'(
 @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], I really love it . Thank you for all your work
[19:16] <_Sym_> so how is the Pro1-X
 https://github.com/ubports/installer-configs/pull/39
 can i install snaps on UT?
 now waiting this to be merged
 @Bibarub [can i install snaps on UT?], installed snapd, but can't start it
 no you can't use snaps on UT currently
 @dohbee [no you can't use snaps on UT currently], how to install anbox?
 in a completely different way because phones aren't PCs
 also depends on which device you have because all of them aren't supported for running anbox
 @Bibarub [how to install anbox?], i've already patched my kernel
 @Bibarub [how to install anbox?], See docs.ubports.com there is a description
 @Flohack [See docs.ubports.com there is a description], Anbox kernel is not installed! Please flash this first!
 but my kernel is already patched..
 phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -1 /dev/{ashmem,binder} … /dev/ashmem … /dev/binder
 @Bibarub [Anbox kernel is not installed! Please flash this first!], Hmm would need to take a look. Maybe we are whitelisting devices somehow idk
 @Flohack [Hmm would need to take a look. Maybe we are whitelisting devices somehow idk], my device is not officially supported
 @Bibarub [phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -1 /dev/{ashmem,binder} … /dev/ashmem … /dev/binder], you need /dev/anbox-binder for UT Anbox
 is it Halium 9?
 @NotKit [is it Halium 9?], patched kernel
 used erfan's instructions
 https://github.com/ubports/porting-notes/wiki/Generic-system-image-(GSI)
 this
[19:29] <ubptgbot> brewages_1920 was added by: brewages_1920
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], I like that blue
 @Bibarub [https://github.com/ubports/porting-notes/wiki/Generic-system-image-(GSI)], any ideas how to install anbox?
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], uuuuauuu, i try iy now
[20:15] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> @RealDanct12 [<reply to media>], but the installer there isn't to phone xiaomi
 @Didac Sanchez [but the installer there isn't to phone xiaomi], because it's not released yet
 they got it installed because they're a tester
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> aaaahh, at new realase
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok
[20:27] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> if i use the isntaller, i lose of my recovery twrp?
 yes
[20:27] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok
 UT doesn't use TWRP to push OTA updates
[20:29] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok ok, i try when a new realase were to publish
 (Photo, 417x553) https://irc.ubports.com/v1mTJZRF.png Good time! Binance-Team help community!
[20:56] <ubptgbot> Raniatara was added by: Raniatara
 @Waxberry, will the Secure Boot fuse be blown on the Pro1 X shipping to customers?
 We can work with the devs to bring our own keys for UB Ports if needed
 But that means not being able to flash other things?
 No need.
 Someone was asking about super long-term possibilities with the device, and whether that is blown or not would be the key case. It's unlikely that software that could take advantage of an unblown fuse will exist within the device's lifetime.
 don't blow the secureboot fuse, or hackers wouldn't like it
 Only if they're bootloader, TrustZone, or radio hackers.
 what about people who wants to develop a FOSS modem firmware?
 @RealDanct12 [what about people who wants to develop a FOSS modem firmware?], I wish you good luck ^^
 You will finish 3G when its obsolote and 7G is standard :P
 [Edit] You will finish 3G when its obsolete and 7G is standard :P
 And, you will have 3 forks with you, which work or dont work in different countries
 Because the devs decided to not bother with implementing the standard fully ^^
[22:35] <ubptgbot> Emils was added by: Emils
 https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Aria_of_the_Valar
[23:09] <ubptgbot> ch3ll0v3k was added by: ch3ll0v3k
 @Bibarub [it's a public config], https://bytzvpn.com/ovpn/BytzVPN-for-Ubuntu-Touch.pdf … Try this ,from the Brax.Me app , and their openvpn instructions, I hope it helps