[00:30] <fathidevops> hello all
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[06:24] <lubot> <matkoniecz> Why Firefox autoupdates on its own? I though that it is controlled by `apt`. … But, at worst possible time, it stops allowing me to open new tabs.
[06:55] <guiverc> @matkoniecz, are you using the default Firefox (maintained by Ubuntu Firefox team) or snap (maintained by Mozilla themselves)
[06:57] <guiverc> Note: I've not noticed firefox update itself ; but it does report it should update itself automatically https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/update-firefox-latest-release
[06:58] <guiverc> though that page implies for Linux it'll update with the package repository
[06:59] <lubot> <matkoniecz> @guiverc [<guiverc> @matkoniecz, are you using the default Firefox (maintained by Ubuntu F …], Whatever is installed by `apt-get` (`sudo apt-get install firefox` confirms that it is installed this way, probably from default OS config)
[07:03] <guiverc> mine is that too (default system install; 82.0), I don't have any helpful ideas though, i don't really notice mine upgrading..
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[13:33] <Guest83706> hi, i have finished installation of lubuntu on my old laptop (Compaq) but after first restart lubuntu does not boot (no calid boot disk). any ideas?
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[15:13] <lubot> <matkoniecz> @Guest83706 [<Guest83706> hi, i have finished installation of lubuntu on my old laptop (Compa …], What is the exact full error message if one appeared?
[15:14] <lubot> <matkoniecz> Usually screenshot is good, in that case photo of a screen also would be ok
[18:04] <juvas> hello
[18:06] <jimgal> tana houi a ta sounta ta kerasounta
[18:07] <jimgal> ta na mania ta afrikania
[20:40] <krytarik> @matkoniecz, guiverc: I only get that out of nowhere since I got unattended-upgrade enabled - but I thought on Ubuntu it wasn't by default..
[20:50] <wxl> actually this is by design apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/9s78fh/sick_of_getting_restart_required/
[22:09] <lubot> <matkoniecz> @wxl [<wxl> actually this is by design apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/com …], "You can either configure your system's package manager to update manually, and then only do those updates when you're in a position to restart Firefox (or while Firefox is not actively running), or you can install the Firefox package directl
[22:09] <lubot> y from mozilla.org and use that rather than the distro-provided package." … I did this with apt (I think...)
[22:10] <wxl> unlikely. how did you do it?
[22:11] <lubot> <matkoniecz> Yeah, … Start menu | Preferences | Software sources | Updates | Automatic updates … was configured to automatically apply security updates. I now disabled this.
[22:11] <wxl> that doesn't necessarily do anything either
[22:11] <wxl> you could get an update not related to security
[22:11] <wxl> and honestly, i wouldn't turn off your security updates
[22:12] <wxl> the one way to ensure it never does this is to remove the firefox package and install it from mozilla.org
[22:12] <lubot> <matkoniecz> Other updates were already not configured to install on their own. … And I install updates quite often.
[22:12] <wxl> firefox is the one example of this problem
[23:40] <guiverc> what starts up ibus?  (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1287820/japanese-input-doesnt-work-on-20-04)  it doesn't look like I'd have issues on my primary box (hirsute) but a focal box I booted is as OP describes
[23:44] <wxl> we don't ship ibus
[23:47] <wxl> we use fcitx
[23:48] <wxl> ibus is an input method, as is fcitx
[23:48] <wxl> having multiple input methods is a recipe for disaster
[23:48] <guiverc> thanks wxl, I've responded with something using LXQt so I'll wait for a response
[23:49] <guiverc> I'll look some more into fcitx & an alternative..
[23:49] <wxl> they want mozc i see, which the fcitx-mozc package provides
[23:50] <wxl> not installed by default
[23:50] <wxl> i could totally imagine what happened: they didn't have the input methods they wanted, searched for the answer, which suggested ibus, etc.
[23:51] <lubot> <N0um3n0> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T113
[23:51] <wxl> right right
[23:52] <lubot> <N0um3n0> How to install japanese with fcitx
[23:54] <wxl> speaking of that, fcitx-anthy is another input method for japanese
[23:54] <wxl> as is fcitx-kkc
[23:54] <wxl> so i mean really i don't think we can possibly make it easy to install someone's input method
[23:55] <wxl> even if you can figure out their language, there's still the question of how they prefer to input it