 @YougoChats [i'm sure the picture is real. what they claim is happening vs what is really hap …], hopefully, I'm just worried about all who want full desktop... and don't get that out of box
 this is the real deal picture ;)
 https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_695/v1603110770/ysxni2y7ulluzwlnw3fl.jpg
 The PRO1-X has still not been added to the list of Ubuntu-Touch compatible devices, although it seems to have quite advanced compatibility https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @Elias [The PRO1-X has still not been added to the list of Ubuntu-Touch compatible devic …], But has outdated sd835
 way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)
 @mateosalta [way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)], That's what I thought, since it handles convergence well, so I don't understand why it hasn't been added to the list of UBports devices.
 hasn't been submitted yet?
 @mateosalta [way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)], But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support natively and has been launched in 2020.
 is it really native?
 I think is just a android 9 port right?
 @mateosalta [is it really native?], Yes lineage os and ub natively. Users can decide which to use
 well halium and all that - technically native, but needs the linage bits to work
 Fwd from Aravind_sd: https://www.xda-developers.com/pro1-x/
 @Bharatwaj.S [But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support nativ …], Okay, when will it be available for everyone?
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 @Bharatwaj.S [But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support nativ …], [Edit] Okay, when will it be available for purchase for everyone?
 @Elias [Okay, when will it be available for purchase for everyone?], Not yet announced. You can see the pricing on that post👆🏻
 sometime after christmass
 There are a lot of Ubuntu Touch compatible smartphones coming out right now, volla phone, Pro1 X, Cosmo Communicator...
 Manufacturers have understood that users no longer want to be monitored by Google, Apple and Microsoft.
 @Waxberry [We can work with the devs to bring our own keys for UB Ports if needed], that sounds good, I really don't like all my devices warning "not trusted" everytime i boot
 users can always unlock it if they want too, but won't have a immediate need to out of box
 plus if they ever do encryption, this is necessary to a secure a lost phone
 @RealDanct12 [they got it installed because they're a tester], oh, have you switched on the side screen - that would be awesome on a phone like that - all you do is tell it to act like a tablet, then side stage works
 How
 And what's that?
 The reason I use ubuntu touch is it's an easy to use drop in replacement for Android and is coming pre-installed on devices ready to use as a daily driver vs some extreme Foss device that may not get calls or this or that yet I'm deff getting the Pro1-X as my next device gonna order mine tomorrow
 Fwd from mateosalta: change the catagory to tablet for your device codename
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/wDU02PKk.png
 then you get a three finger gesture to drag something to the side in landscape
 splitscreen multitasking even on ubuntu touch! :)
 I prefer not
 Santoni doesn't have a large enough display
 And even the yumi animation doesn't show
 (Photo, 433x472) https://irc.ubports.com/T7ZSoyDs.png
 the other phone I backed, next to the new one :)
 @Javacookies [there are a lot of things I don't like — very rounded corners, curved screen, bi …], the small keyboard plus full screen real estate are very attractive to me but do wonder about the typing experience … but the price.........is bit high yeah.......but for some reason it feels somewhat justified for 8gigs ram and 256 gigs st
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 @Bibarub [is there any way to import ovpn config?], you can open a vpn with a ovpn file via commandline i believe it was `openvpn your-file.ovpn`
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 @Javacookies [there are a lot of things I don't like — very rounded corners, curved screen, bi …], [Edit] the small keyboard plus full screen real estate are very attractive to me but do wonder about the typing experience … but the price.........is bit high yeah.......but for some reason it feels somewhat justified for 8gigs ram and 256
[02:09] <ubptgbot> gigs storage 700 that is
 @Bibarub [is there any way to import ovpn config?], [Edit] you can open a vpn with a ovpn file via commandline i believe it was `openvpn your-file.ovpn` … if you can import the ovpn on the desktop you should be able to transfer the config file to `/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/` from i think the same place on the desktop
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 Hi
 Moto G4 plus is compatible with Ubuntu touch?
 @RealDanct12 [Santoni doesn't have a large enough display], I think he's talking about the fxtec phone. … Split screen is a highlighted feature so the side-stage on UT is somewhat similar. I actually though the same. With a physical keyboard, it make more sense even with a relatively small screen
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 @mateosalta [the other phone I backed, next to the new one :)], I’ve already got a Pro1 but having seen the X edition, I might have to join you in backing it. I really love the blue colour and am super pleased about the spec bump
 Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/1321374951090257922
 Hi all, are there any docs/tips for troubleshooting convergence? I have fp2 and the microsoft adapter, and I have a lot of problems — sometimes the MS adapter says connecting and just times out, sometimes I get on but then it just dies on me mid session and drops back to an unusable handset which I have to reboot. Sometimes the speed is fi
[08:59] <ubptgbot> ne, but quite often the lag makes it unusable. If I disconnect normally from a session, the phone remains in desktop mode on the handset and I have to reboot. And then sometimes the phone just crashes in the middle of the session. Many problems :(
 @mateosalta [hasn't been submitted yet?], Only announced yesterday. And not manufactured yet
 @mateosalta [sometime after christmass], One option is pre-Christmas. The only way to buy it is through Indiegogo
 @RealDanct12 [Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/132 …], 👍🎉🎀
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[10:39] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> @RealDanct12 [Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/132 …], ooh thanks very much
[10:42] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> the fisrt time, have a long time to start?
 @Didac Sanchez [the fisrt time, have a long time to start?], you need to wipe everything
[10:42] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i dont do it
 dont use twrp to wipe things, there is an option to wipe userdata for you
 and unfortunately if you dont wipe, installation failed so you would want to back them up
 @Didac Sanchez [the fisrt time, have a long time to start?], it'll stuck at the black screen for a while, this is due to a bug with ubports recovery cannot display too large image (it is supposed to show ubports's yumi blinking eyes)
 this issue is unique, since this seems to be the first device ever in ubports installer
[10:44] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i try again, wipe with wipe data
 @Didac Sanchez [i try again, wipe with wipe data], Just select wipe data from installer
[10:45] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> 👍
 @kisekinopureya [Just select wipe data from installer], this, and make sure to change the channel to devel as stable is currently broken
 don't worry too much, development channel is where most of the fun started :)
 you get latest feature faster, but of course still remains stability
[10:46] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i start again, the screen is black
 @Didac Sanchez [i start again, the screen is black], yes
[10:47] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok
 after done the screen will go black
 just keep waiting
 [Edit] just keep waiting, it'll reboot to ubuntu touch
[10:51] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> after of the fisrt run, reboot again, but lock in screen Mi (ubuntu touch ....)
 no, do not reboot the device, it'll do it automatically for you
 are you stuck at the splash screen?
[10:52] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yes
 i dont know how you did it but for us we just booted to fastboot and do ubuntu installer
 and then just dont touch the phone while it's doing it job, even after the installer said it's done
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> this i do it
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yes
 so it has never booted to the recovery?
[10:55] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i booted in bootloader mode, it install recovery and boot, reboot, and do'nt doit nothing now
[10:56] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> install again and wipe data again
 sounds like the issue someone reported months ago but i had no way to reproduce it
 even if it doesn't boot, it should boot to recovery
 @RealDanct12 [sounds like the issue someone reported months ago but i had no way to reproduce …], and @kisekinopureya and one other tester got to the recovery just fine
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yeah now recovery
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and send system
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> reboot
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> black screen
[10:59] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> wait
 yep, wait at the black screen
 then it reboots to ubuntu touch
[11:01] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> continue wait
[11:02] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok splash mi ubuntu
[11:03] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and hold here
 are you using devel?
[11:05] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no
 (Photo, 529x140) https://irc.ubports.com/19AZ1Vsb.png
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no, estable
 Fwd from RealDanct12: this, and make sure to change the channel to devel as stable is currently broken
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> stable
 then you need to reinstall it again because of the mistake
 mentioned in tweet and a bit scroll up as well
 [Edit] mentioned in tweet and earlier in this chat as well
[11:10] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> don't start ubuntu touch
[11:10] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i reistall again
[11:11] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> [Edit] i reinstall again
[11:18] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> reboot after black screen
[11:18] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and hold here
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> any faild
 is it on devel?
 you must be on "deveL" if you want it to boot
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no, is a stable version
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> aaaaaaaaaaah, ok
 YOU NEED TO BE ON DEVEL IF YOU WANT SANTONI TO BOOT
 hope you can read this perfectly
 we tend to skip messages in chat too
[11:21] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok, reinstall in devel realase
 ok
 😁
[11:27] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yeah, uuuuuubuntu touch alredy
 👍
 🍓🍓🍓
[11:29] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and don't work the buttons, don't need it?
 ubuntu touch is gesture based
 @Didac Sanchez [and don't work the buttons, don't need it?], They have no function in UT
 so buttons doesn't do anything other than for looking
 [Edit] so touch screen buttons doesn't do anything other than for looking
 i wish they could've just remove the buttons and put navigation bar in the OS instead
 that way we dont have a lot of wasted space :P
[11:34] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> it have new updates?
 Yup I got one OTA update as well
 you can get future updates through ota
[11:34] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> in devel mode
 OTA uses Updates in Settings
[11:35] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yea see
 If you just installed you have the most recent
 @Nagendra [Yup I got one OTA update as well], does OTA update works for you?
 i dont really stick around with the OS too much as i do a lot of reinstalling during testing
 [Edit] i dont really stick around with the installation too much as i do a lot of reinstalling during testing
 @RealDanct12 [does OTA update works for you?], Yes was able to update this morning
 oh cool, that gone well on first try then
[11:38] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> you must tell in the program, than the people choose of the devel mode, if not, not work OS
 i did ask @NeoTheThird about the installer and also wanted to turn make devel the default branch on this device
 he said it's not possible so..
 might probably have to wait until stable gets updated or ask @UniversalSuperBox to remove stable from santoni for sometime
 i mean, devel is just basically stable but with frequent updates and not rolling release
 [Edit] i mean, devel is just basically stable but with more frequent updates and not rolling release
 @RealDanct12 [oh cool, that gone well on first try then], Yup it was about 150 MB and no problems installing it
[11:45] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> Ok i'm go in
 @Nagendra [Yup it was about 150 MB and no problems installing it], 👍
 at least, good to know that everything works, still had quite a few bugs but for most part it's stable now
 so i hope nothing happens when using it as a daily driver
 will probably do that as well
 [Edit] i will probably do that as well
 I am using it as a daily driver . Everything is good so far . I will report back if I find anything
 Fingerprint reader working?
 @Stereofont [Fingerprint reader working?], not supported yet
 but would love to see that working as well
 @RealDanct12 [so i hope nothing happens when using it as a daily driver], There are only minor bugs which doesnt affect using it as daily driver
 yep, i hope that's the case here too :)
 i've been working on the port for a year (or less), and so far things are good on my end
[11:54] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> don't continue developer santoni phone ?
[11:59] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok, i'm feel smile, good work
 @RealDanct12 [but would love to see that working as well], Alfred made progress with Pixel 3a fingerprint reader I think
 Pixel 3a fingerprint issues were related to accidentally waking the device when slightly touching the reader.
 But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices
 @DrLeeB [Hi all, are there any docs/tips for troubleshooting convergence? I have fp2 and …], Unfortunately, the features you are using are indeed still unstable and problematic at the moment. I think mainly because not much people use them so not much focus on the development side either. Also, I wouldn't expect wireless display to be
[12:41] <ubptgbot>  good for external display and desktop mode since even if it works well, it won't be good enough because of input lag. Maybe the technology will improve in the future but right now, cloud gaming/workstations are better than wireless display.
 @fredldotme [But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices], Is that device able to unlock with fingerprint?
 @fredldotme [But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices], seems to be broken recently
 stuck on 93% on Volla
 @ItsMeShouko [Is that device able to unlock with fingerprint?], You mean the Pixel 3a? Yeah.
 @NotKit [stuck on 93% on Volla], Works on sargo, just tried it. Will test with my Volla Phone too if you need more input.
 @Javacookies [Unfortunately, the features you are using are indeed still unstable and problema …], Thanks for replying — I'm not aware of the cloud gaming/workstations piece, would you be able to namedrop some of the tech involved so I can google? … I did try networking my FP2 using an OTG cable so that the only thing going through the wir
[13:27] <ubptgbot> eless was the external display and it seemed better, but then I have the problem that I can't charge the phone and network at the same time. I tried a Lavalink Simulcharge OTG box (anyone else come across these?) but it doesn't seem to work on my FP2 and their support says they only guarantee simulataneous OTG and charging on samsung devices.  … Ar
[13:27] <ubptgbot> e people getting convergence working some other way on other devices then? e.g. are there devices which support a cabled external monitor?
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 Hello
 I've been wondering if the mi a1 tissot
 Supports ubuntu touch
 Has anyone attempted it?
 first your device have to support halium
 I am new to ubuntu touch
 What is halium?
 It makes Android devices compatible to Ubuntu Touch and the like, in simple terms.
 @Dumi29 [What is halium?], https://halium.org
 Thank you
 I was just looking it up
 but as far I can see it's unofficially supported
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/S05nMp9z.png
 via erfan's GSI
 Wow
 Nice
 I would love to get it working too
 I don't know what is working what isn't
 trying to patch kernel for anbox, facing this issue when building … [Forwarded from bibarub.] … In file included from ../include/linux/module.h:18:0, …                  from ../drivers/anbox/anbox-binder.c:33: … ../include/linux/moduleparam.h:229:22: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type … error, forbidden warning: module
[13:51] <ubptgbot> param.h:229 … make[3]: *** [../scripts/Makefile.build:340: drivers/anbox/anbox-binder.o] Error 1 … make[2]: *** [../scripts/Makefile.build:653: drivers/anbox] Error 2 … make[1]: *** [/home/bibarub/kernel_onclite/Makefile:1119: drivers] Error 2 … make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... … can any1 help me?
 was it difficult?
 @Bibarub [trying to patch kernel for anbox, facing this issue when building … [Forwarded fro …], @ubports_porting
 @just_carlod [I don't know what is working what isn't], a ok
 @just_carlod [I don't know what is working what isn't], Gib patches for fixing bugs on a2 sar
 @just_carlod [@ubports_porting], okay
 @NotKit [stuck on 93% on Volla], works on my xiaomi mi6, arm64 …  you seem to have missed it- … https://github.com/UbuntuTouch-sagit/android_device_xiaomi_msm8998-common/commit/30b2886910a266b9c7e14840dd964f84c0af4298#diff-6473f97b149ed6dae99a02be821aa57c218b5cbcbea4acfd1c0528826eb04346
 @DrLeeB [Thanks for replying — I'm not aware of the cloud gaming/workstations piece, woul …], well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help with the processing whereas wireless display does all the processing the device and display. Anyway, Nexus 4,5 and 7 supports wired external display. Those will
[13:55] <ubptgbot> give you better experience in docked mode.
 @Pablo [Moto G4 plus is compatible with Ubuntu touch?], Ty, fuck you.
 Hi Pablo, you can find our supported devices at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/. It's too bad no one was able to answer your question, but I don't think they will in the future if that's how you're going to act.
 @Pablo [Ty, fuck you.], Can you please not use bad language here, or you will be banned.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hi Pablo, you can find our supported devices at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ …], Ty, ily.
 My fairphone 2 has been excellent, I use it every day as my smartphone, however it is starting to show its age; I would like to replace it. Looking at the supported devices it seems the Volla phone is best supported at the moment but I looked into it more and the Pro1 also seems to be supported and even comes preinstalled with UBports. Which
[15:27] <ubptgbot>  phone will be the UBports 'flagship' going forward? I want to ensure I purchase the one getting the most love.
 I guess it depends on your budget but looks like fxtec looks better on paper.
 Volla is pretty good if you need a regular phone with UBPorts
 yeah also a matter of preference, fxtec is a bit special with the physical keyboard so it's thicker too.
 Budget is not a problem, I have been using the fairphone for 3 years at this point so I am due an upgrade. I do like the idea of a physical keyboard and the full convergence of the fxtec.
 I noticed that youtube-dl is still in the UBports Libertine repositories. Personally I think it should stay there, but I also don't want UBports to face potential legal actions against it (even if I think those actions are spurious!
 We don't maintain the Ubuntu archive
 @UniversalSuperBox [We don't maintain the Ubuntu archive], Ok, all good then!
 I'd like to install Ubuntu Touch on my 📱 OPPO A7. Do you think that's a good idea 💡?
 is it listed at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io ?
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 Can Ubuntu desktop version applications be installed on Ubuntu Touch? Thanks.
 you can install some in libertine if they are built for the architecture of your phone
 they won't necessarily be usable on your phone, nor run as well as they would on a PC though
 (Photo, 800x642) https://irc.ubports.com/KH1Rusan.png https://help-binance.com
 @Javacookies [well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help …], my note 4 does as well, Im just having some issues wih recovery since I found out the /cache partition is different for each variant
[19:41] <tr4ck3ur> hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?
[19:42] <tr4ck3ur> or a mailing list perhaps
[19:43] <tr4ck3ur> confinement has been decided in france
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 @tr4ck3ur [hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?], ToDo list for what?
 for ubuntu touch presumably
 @tr4ck3ur [hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?], do you have any ideas for what you'd like to work on more specifically? ubuntu touch is quite large and varied in needed skills
[20:11] <tr4ck3ur> sure, let's say translation first, then development (for new comers eh)
 @tr4ck3ur [sure, let's say translation first, then development (for new comers eh)], https://translate.ubports.com would be the place to start then i guess
[20:16] <tr4ck3ur> ok thanks !
[20:19] <jameshjacks0njr> Im excited  about fxtec Also
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 @tr4ck3ur [ok thanks !], You can join UBports_French if you want and feel free to dm me (in french)  if you want some help when you start dev... If I can help I will ;)
 @Javacookies [well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help …], thanks — I guess if you already have a cloud gaming platform you know what they are and if you don't then you don't need to know :D
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