guivercDarkTrick, PITA = most printers, lots of crap gadgets, pain in the ar...01:49
guivercyou got the answer from the source anyway...01:49
DarkTrickMaybe I should move the discussion here: I imagine "Ubuntu" is comparably strong. Why doesn't Ubuntu go through with defining a clear mechanism and let others adapt / make others adapt?01:51
DarkTrick"legacy support"?01:51
daftykinssounds like you're starting in the middle01:51
daftykinsmechanism for what?01:51
DarkTrickdaftykins, sorry, the rest was from #ubuntu.01:53
DarkTrickSystemd has a lot of paths regarding starting of units (https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html#Unit%20File%20Load%20Path)01:54
DarkTrickThey are "all over the place" (/etc/run/usr/).01:54
DarkTrick"it'd be so much nicer to have a well-defined override mechanism, or an add-in mechanism, like systemd's designed. "01:55
lotuspsychjegood morning03:35
ducassegood morning05:06
lotuspsychjemgedmin: from this morning; <jmspeex> mgedmin: FYI, my two-line patch worked. My battery indicator hw is still misbehaving, but at least it no longer shuts down my machine. Thanks for the tips.09:55
lotuspsychje<jmspeex> Do you know if it's worth trying to upstream my fix (or something similar)? And if so, where?09:55
mgedminah, I saw the first msg but not the second09:56
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lotuspsychje!ubuntu+1 is Hirsute Hippo is the codename for Ubuntu 21.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu+1. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.12:50
lotuspsychje!21.04 is <reply> Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) will be the 34rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2021 ( https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-schedule/18539 ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.12:58
lotuspsychje!hirsute is <reply> Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) will be the 34rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2021 ( https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-schedule/18539 ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.13:01
TJ-Hairy Hippo!?!13:45
TJ-get a shave!13:45
xMeiawhat you say man13:47
xMeialets just13:52
TJ-there's always one13:52
xMeiatesting irc colors13:53
Maiktest in #test instead of here13:58
xMeiaI'm done13:59
TJ-that feeling you have after 4 months tracking down an obscure kernel or hardware bug only to discover it isn't a bug and it is self-inflicted!16:53
ceed^Gotta love the bot! Solved my firmware install problem after 20.10 upgrade. All good now. I wonder if this is a bug in the upgrade process?18:01
TJ-ceed^: the bot didn't solve it; I did... I commanded the bot to tell you18:03
ceed^TJ-: I know that a bot needs to input to output, but it came from the bot so I love it :) Thank you though for solving this for me18:05
ceed^I still wonder why that package was missing after the upgrade to 20.10. Seems like some sort of bug to me.18:06
TJ-ceed^: possibly due to the reverse-dependencies, or a package not marked as 'automatic'18:08
ceed^TJ-: Does that mean it will happen to others also, or was is just me hitting on a snag?18:09
TJ-ceed^: hard to say but I don't see any glaring problems with the packages so I suspect it was unique to your config18:10
ceed^TJ-: I hope so. Thank you so much though.18:15
mgedminsomebody who knows how to read apt logs could probably figure it out from the upgrade logs18:16
mgedminfwupd-signed is Recommended: by fwupd and by ubuntu-desktop-minimal (and many other desktop metapackages)18:17
mgedminI think do-release-upgrade likes to ensure the right desktop metapackage is installed, which should also pull in everything Recommended by it18:18
mgedminunless you disabled auto-installing of recommends in an apt config file somewhere?18:18
TJ-it shouldn't have been removed though, that is the strange part, but yes, the apt log would reveal all (in /var/log/apt/ )18:19
mgedminor /var/log/dist-upgrade/, which is where do-release-upgrade keeps its logs (in a very confusing hierarchy)18:27
ceed^mgedmin: Confusing to the OS itself it seems.18:28
ducasseTJ-: have you used the zfs backing store for lxc?19:56
TJ-ducasse: no19:56
ducassethe lxc-create man page mentuions it exists, but has no details19:56
ducassei'll go google19:56

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