dokowhat is needed to make ubuntu-dev-tools (reverse-depends) work with hirsute?08:11
RikMillsdoko: I think tumbleweed has to do some updates on ubuntuwire at least?08:16
alkisgHi, groovy's rsync misbehaves (https://github.com/WayneD/rsync/issues/109), but if I build the groovy package locally in focal with dkpg-buildpackage, rsync then works fine!08:17
alkisgAny clues on how to troubleshoot rsync runtime issues when they're caused by the build environment?08:17
alkisgI just tested, focal's rsync, when built on groovy, misbehaves as well. Something in the build environment upgrade, from focal to groovy, breaks rsync.08:23
alkisgI've no idea where to file such a bug report, "build environment breaks rsync" is too generic, and rsync upstream closed the issue that I filed there with "not an rsync issue"08:24
dokokanashiro: could you have a look at ruby in hirsute? e.g. installation of b-d's for libprelude are broken (ruby-rubygems)08:50
dokomwhudson: looks like the autosyncs made golang 1.15 the default. do you want to go with this, or delay that until 1.16?08:59
rbasakalkisg: if rsync is broken on Groovy, I'd file a bug against rsync in Ubuntu with steps to reproduce11:04
rbasakIt can always be moved later11:04
rbasakSounds like something to do with a glibc difference to me11:05
dokocpaelzer: looks like we started a postgres transition with the syncs11:41
alkisgThank you rbasak, doing so11:45
cpaelzerI have no capacity to do PG-13 now and from my last check (not too long ago) way too many deps aren't ready yet12:02
cpaelzerdoko: did you mean PG-13 or just 12.4-3 ?12:03
cpaelzerif it is PG-13 we ahve to remove things from hirsute as of now and revisit ~january12:04
cpaelzerlast time the depending projects needed ~1year to pick up PG-12 as needed12:04
dokothe component mismatches12:04
dokosee the ...12:04
cpaelzerDebian allows multiple postgres versions which is why they can slow-roll12:04
cpaelzerwe don't and would like to have one, but one working12:04
cpaelzertherefore PG-12.x it is (for now)12:04
dokothen please fix postgresql-common12:05
cpaelzerI'm happy if PG-13 turns out to be way less transition pain than what PG-12 was12:05
cpaelzerI'll need to talk to Myon12:08
cpaelzergladly I'm totally overloaded right now :-/12:08
cpaelzerthanks for the ping thou @doko12:08
cpaelzerI'll either tune back 13->12 in postgresql-common OR try to find time to get things moving12:13
LocutusOfBorgseb128, thanks for sane-backends fix, can you please also forward the patch to the Debian bug? I think Debian maintainer is doing a different fix... not sure which one is better (or if they are both needed)13:41
seb128LocutusOfBorg, the patch is more a workaround, I didn't want to start creating the lock from code and then have to do with group membership etc13:42
seb128it can probably be overwritten with a fix from upstream or Debian when they have one13:42
LocutusOfBorgseb128, https://jff.email/cgit/sane-backends.git/commit/?id=736573a8db4bd098da28a4831ce4c601f880aacd13:44
LocutusOfBorgthis is the fix mentioned on the Debian bug13:44
LocutusOfBorglooks "sane" enough to me (sorry for the pun)13:45
seb128LocutusOfBorg, that's not going to work, /var/lock is not a persistent dir13:45
seb128(that was mentioned on the Debian bug)13:45
seb128the file is going to not be there anymore after a restart13:45
LocutusOfBorgack thanks13:46
mitya57I'm going to start Qt 5.14 → 5.15 transition in a few hours. If something is entangled with it and I should wait, please let me know.14:04
dokomitya57: we currently have a broken ruby, e.g. no gems can be built14:22
mitya57doko: I hope that won't be a problem for Qt14:25
LocutusOfBorgmitya57, what about doing it in bileto?14:39
LocutusOfBorgthe queue is really huge, not sure if entangling will help in making it faster, specially for autopkgtests14:39
LocutusOfBorgI would like also to do haskell and ocaml and nodejs, but I prefer to wait some more days14:40
LocutusOfBorgor is it already ready to land?14:40
LocutusOfBorgin that case, meh :D14:41
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mitya57LocutusOfBorg: I have started the work in Bileto (4316), but I want to publish it today because otherwise Qt will be autosynced from Debian (and it will be worse because it needs bootstrapping).15:00
LocutusOfBorgso better publish :)15:01
dokoMissing build dependencies: fonts-urw-base35 (< 20170801.1.0~)16:13
dokotkamppeter: ^^^ ghostscript needs an update, everything b-d on ghostscript can't be built16:15
tkamppeterdoko, OK, I think Debian has done this already, so I will take over what Debian did, or better merge their GS.16:16
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alkisgI managed to pinpoint the issue better: AC_CHECK_FUNC(lchmod) says "checking for lchmod... yes" in Ubuntu 20.10, while it said "no" in 20.04.17:58
alkisgBut from what I understand, lchmod isn't supported in Linux (and it's failing when /proc isn't mounted), so that would be a bug in coreutils?17:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1902109 in rsync (Ubuntu) "rsync uses lchmod and fails in Ubuntu >= 20.10" [Undecided,New]18:07
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mitya57doko: speaking about ruby, maybe it's better to remove ruby-defaults 1:2.7+2 from groovy-proposed until rubygems is built?18:56
mitya57That version doesn't seem to have major changes apart from the change that broke it. So 1:2.7+1 should work fine.18:57
dokokanashiro: ^^^18:59
mitya57Btw it's also broken in Debian, see Debian #97249019:06
ubottuDebian bug 972490 in src:rubygems "rubygems_3.2.0~rc.1-2_all-buildd.changes REJECTED" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/97249019:06
LocutusOfBorgtkamppeter, I can do ghostscript if you want19:35
LocutusOfBorgtkamppeter, looks like the sync built just fine on ppc64el19:55
LocutusOfBorgso no more delta19:55
LocutusOfBorgwhat is your opinion?19:56
tumbleweeddoko: I was waiting for a name for Hirsuite, to do distro-info updates. But it seems we've got it now20:14
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