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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:00
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round15:00
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bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)15:01
bdmurrayjuliank rbalint mwhudson vorlon tdaitx sil2100 xnox doko slyon bdmurray waveform15:01
juliank* python-apt:15:01
juliank  - Rely on distro-info to expand templates for concrete releases instead of copy and pasting them (LP: #1727470) - https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/python-apt/-/merge_requests/5215:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1727470 in Ubuntu Translations "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version strings in python-apt" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172747015:01
juliank  - Rename Cdrom and Disc to (installation) medium (LP: #1849406); only committed so far15:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1849406 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 19.10: "Cdrom" to "Physical media"" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184940615:01
juliank* oh no, an apt installation ordering issue (debian bug 973305). making some bits configure less immediate, but turning on immediate configuration makes it work; odd, eh?15:01
ubottuDebian bug 973305 in apt "apt-get throws error when run with --simulate and APT::Immediate-Configure set to "false"" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/97330515:01
juliank* +1 maintenance15:01
juliank(done or do people want +1 details here too?)15:02
rbalint(short week due to holidays)15:02
rbalint* partner work15:02
rbalint* systemd reviews15:02
rbalint* +1 maintenance15:02
rbalint* proposed a more complete fix for LP: #189168615:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1891686 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "Please default to nocheck on riscv64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189168615:02
rbalint* updated strace to new upstream15:02
rbalint* sponsored logrotate via Debian before merging it in Ubuntu to fix FTBFS15:02
rbalint* merged logrotate15:02
rbalint* preparing systemd 246.6-2ubuntu1 for hirsute15:02
rbalint* preparing glibc 2.32-0ubuntu4 for hirsute, landing today night/tomorrow morning15:02
rbalint* britney hints bzr->git migration15:02
bdmurrayvorlon: ?15:03
bdmurrayHow about tdaitx?15:03
tdaitx* openjdk security updated15:03
tdaitx  - openjdk-8 updated to 8u272-b10, aarch32 hotspot (armhf) repo was not up-to-date and was patched15:03
tdaitx  - openjdk-11 updated to 11.0.9-1115:03
tdaitx  - rebased openjdk-lts on top of debian's openjdk-11 just before push15:03
vorlonoops - I'll go after tdaitx15:03
tdaitx  - 3 retries for openjdk-11 armhf to pass with gcc-1015:03
tdaitx  - now tracking errors.u.c and lp for any bug reports15:04
tdaitx* proposed fix for update-notifier (bug 1821412) (approved, now needs merge, upload, srus...)15:04
ubottubug 1821412 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) ""System program problem" report button does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182141215:04
tdaitx* jck15:04
tdaitx - working around jenkins/snap restrictions for accounts outside /home15:04
tdaitx - working around proxy limitations/bugs in snap/lxd/snacraft/multipass15:04
tdaitx - working around lack of shitfs15:04
tdaitx - working around other workarounds15:04
tdaitx- hatting the guts of jenkaas sso integration and its short lived cookies15:04
sil2100- 20.10 release last week!15:04
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:04
sil2100- Archive opening15:04
sil2100- Adding notes about ubuntu-image specific hacks in the manpage15:04
sil2100- Experimented with and prepared a new google-cloud-sdk for xenial partner-proposed15:04
xnox* shiftfs15:04
sil2100- Looked into the raspi-config project and uploaded it into NEW15:04
sil2100- Promoted new core18 to stable15:04
sil2100- Forward-ported changes for making the core20 version number date-based as for core1815:04
sil2100- Reviewed Lukas's netplan fix for systemd-networkd misconfiguration15:04
sil2100- Interviews15:04
sil2100- Some bileto tweaks15:04
sil2100- Familiarized with ubiquity code, worked on providing user feedback of ubuntu-drivers running - almost there15:05
vorlonok or not ;)15:05
vorlon * release opening checklist15:05
vorlon * doing my merges for te beginning of cycle15:05
vorlon * cloud image discussions15:05
xnox29th October15:05
xnoxfixing bootloader installation in livecd-rootfs15:05
xnoxfixing hyperv gallery image in livecd-rootfs15:05
xnoxtesting riscv64 lxd builder to build livecd-rootfs images (cpc & buildd)15:05
xnoxuploaded mdadm to fix degraded/dirty assembly to hirsuite, todo SRUs15:05
xnoxgrub2 sru to bionic accepted; need validation15:05
xnoxsubmitted patch to snapcraft to build build-base core22 snaps15:05
slyon- ISO testing15:06
slyon  * Found problem with ZFS installation, LP: #190085915:06
slyon- Improved cloud-init MAAS/OVS fix, PR#60815:06
slyon- klibc merge 2.0.8 via git-ubuntu, LP: #190012415:06
slyon- Working on MOTU application15:06
slyon=== Netplan ===15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1900859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ZFS installation crashes while loading modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190085915:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1900124 in klibc (Ubuntu) "Please merge klibc 2.0.8-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190012415:06
slyon- IRC/AskUbuntu support15:07
slyon- MAAS/OVS SRU + verification, LP: #189899715:07
slyon- Updated gateway documentation & prepared LP: #190183615:07
slyon- Fixed regression upstream, LP: #188872615:07
slyon- Improved Github CI, using GH Actions + Codecov15:07
slyon- Working on 'netplan try' DBus commands, PR#13415:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1898997 in cloud-init "MAAS cannot deploy/boot if OVS bridge is configured on a single PXE NIC" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189899715:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1901836 in netplan "netplan should warn/fail if multiple default gateways are defined" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190183615:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1888726 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Focal) "systemd-udevd regression: some renamed network interfaces stuck in "pending" state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188872615:07
bdmurraymodified snap remove code to print the date for IS15:07
bdmurraysponsored waveform's fix for LP: #1836475 (twice!)15:07
bdmurrayuploaded tzdata 2020b for Groovy LP: #1900436 (more than twice)15:07
bdmurrayuploaded tzdata 2020d SRUs for P, T, X, B, F, G15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1836475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183647515:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1900436 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "new upstream release 2020b" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190043615:07
bdmurraycreated a test case for verifying icu-data updates15:07
bdmurraySRU verification of tzdata uploads15:07
bdmurrayresearch into LP: #187210615:07
bdmurrayupdated ubuntu-manpages-repository: -Eoan +Groovy +Hirsute15:07
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have it done on the server15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1872106 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Focal) "isc-dhcp-server crashing constantly [Ubuntu 20.04]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187210615:07
bdmurrayreported slideshow bug LP: #190075615:07
bdmurrayuploaded u-r-u for 21.0415:07
bdmurrayupdated meta-release for hirsute15:07
bdmurrayworked with sil2100 on distro-info-data15:07
bdmurraygroovy release stuff15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1900756 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-kylin slideshow still contains information about 5.4 kernel" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190075615:07
bdmurray✔ done15:07
waveform* Still using the pi desktop image :)15:08
waveform* Answering lots of questions from the community about the new destkop image (mostly USB boot related)!15:08
waveform* Worked on userland MIR (lower priority post-release) (LP: #1895137)15:08
waveform* Investigated dual monitor issue on pi desktop (appears to be hi-res only)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189513715:08
waveform* Investigating bluetooth reboot issue; can't reliably reproduce at the moment (LP: #1901272)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1901272 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Can't connect Bluetooth devices after reboot - Ubuntu 20.10 on Raspberry Pi 4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190127215:08
waveform* Updated pi-gadget to fix stored MAC address in Core 18 bootloader (LP: #1900879)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1900879 in snap-core18 "MAC addresses hard-coded in bootloader" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190087915:08
waveform* Worked on Core 20 d-t boot issues15:08
waveform* ... more work on Core 20 d-t boot issues after realizing first solution can't work15:08
bdmurraydoko: ?15:08
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs15:09
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:09
bdmurraybug 190202515:10
ubottubug 1902025 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "hwe kernel not scoped under "Ubuntu Base"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190202515:10
bdmurrayI've sorted by number and descending15:10
bdmurrayThis doesn't seem terribly important15:11
bdmurraySo let's sit on it15:12
bdmurraybug 190172315:12
ubottubug 1901723 in openssl (Ubuntu) "backport Refactor BN_R_NO_INVERSE logic in internal functions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190172315:12
bdmurrayWhat is the motivation for doing this?15:12
bdmurrayOkay, let's card that.15:13
bdmurraymclemenceau: ^15:14
mclemenceauyou got it15:14
bdmurraybug 190113715:14
ubottubug 1901137 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UEFI on Legacy - grub-install fails due to no space left on ESP" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190113715:14
bdmurrayIs this really Critical?15:15
vorlonI'd say no15:15
bdmurrayBut still worth sorting out15:16
rbalintthis can break upgrades15:16
vorlonbut we do need to decide what to do regarding the various edge cases of ESP when installer is booted under BIOS, yes15:16
bdmurrayokay, let's card that15:17
bdmurraybug 190104315:17
ubottubug 1901043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No sound in ubiquity-dm with nomodeset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190104315:17
bdmurrayLet's call that medium15:19
vorlonis this really a ubiquity bug or is it a kernel bug?15:19
xnoxto be determined.15:19
bdmurrayand pass on it for now15:19
bdmurraybug 190092515:20
ubottubug 1900925 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Advanced features dialog w/ screen reader" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190092515:20
bdmurrayI noticed this when doing iso testing.15:20
bdmurrayI'm not certian how important it is15:21
sil2100hm, I would take it15:21
bdmurrayCould it be a larger problem than just the ubiquity dialog?15:22
bdmurrayLike something in the screen reading stack.15:22
xnoxwe could dynamically remove/add label, but then it would make the popup resize which is a UX no-no.15:22
sil2100I doubt it, I think it's probably something we should do better in ubiquity15:22
bdmurrayokay, lets take a card for that15:23
bdmurraybug 189877815:23
ubottubug 1898778 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "RPCNFSDARGS missing from /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189877815:23
bdmurraylet's take that then15:25
bdmurraybug 189792915:25
ubottubug 1897929 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "secure boot password "password" is reported to be 'good'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189792915:25
vorlonwe shouldn't be doing password quality checks at all on the mok password15:26
vorlonso that's the thing to fix here15:26
bdmurraycan you comment to that affect on the bug?15:26
vorlonbut I don't think it's all that high priority, unless there are circumstances in which we're telling users their mok password is bad15:26
bdmurraybug 189491915:27
ubottubug 1894919 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "gnome-software-plugin-snap consider an unwanted removal for 20.04 ubuntu-desktop" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189491915:27
bdmurrayWe should still sort out what is considered and unwanted removal.15:28
vorlonif this is already triaged for focal, shouldn't we automatically take it for devel?15:28
bdmurraybug 189396415:32
ubottubug 1893964 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation of Ubuntu Groovy with manual partitioning without an EFI System Partition fails on 'grub-install /dev/sda' even on non-UEFI systems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189396415:32
vorlonthis sounds like it's a duplicate of the other bug we discussed?15:32
xnoxkind of, but slightly different reproducer15:32
xnox(manual rather than any of the automatic recipes)15:32
xnoxshould we allow installations without ESP?15:33
rbalinti think so15:33
xnoxexplicit and warn? or even no warning?15:33
vorlonwell, rule 1, we shouldn't allow the user to leave the partitioner with a config that will lead to an install failure later15:33
juliankwhat about legacy systems where there is no space for ESP15:33
xnoxin subiquity we create esp whenver we can, and it's just there.15:33
xnoxjuliank:  what about no space for grub-pc?15:33
vorlonrule 2, if the user can't have an ESP for whatever reason, we should let the install proceed without setting up grub-efi*15:33
rbalintthere are quite usable non-UEFI systems15:34
xnoxtake the bug then.15:34
juliankxnox: no space for grub-pc, if booting on uefi, should warn, but not fail15:34
dokosorry, fooled by the DST change15:34
xnoxdoko:  yeap, we guessed.15:34
sil2100Is it carded?15:35
slyonbug 189172115:36
ubottubug 1891721 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-multi-install attempts to mount a non-existing device after migrating to another system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189172115:36
xnoxthis one is fun.15:36
xnoxwe somehow notice and install on usb-stick's ESP15:36
xnoxand then break when it is unplugged.15:36
vorlonusb stick with the installer? or something else?15:37
juliankI saw that before15:37
xnoxi wonder if grub-multi-install should ignore removable media; which is not rootfs?15:37
xnoxusb stick with something else.15:37
juliankxnox: not really15:37
vorlonwe should take it15:37
juliankxnox: So you might want to have ESP on USB stick15:37
juliankand take it with you15:37
mclemenceauok vorlon: carded15:38
bdmurraybug 1884248 then15:38
ubottubug 1884248 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu) "networkd-dispatcher gives corrupted information" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188424815:38
bdmurrayjuliank you tagged this bug do you have anything to add?15:39
juliankI haven't reproduced it, but I guess it needs fixing15:39
juliankAlso new upstream releases to upload exist I think15:40
xnoxit is valid json.... bu thte keys and valu es l ook malforme d.15:41
bdmurraybug 1878601 we sort of talked about already15:43
ubottubug 1878601 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "nfs-utils in Debian and Ubuntu is *very* old" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187860115:43
mclemenceauok carded15:43
bdmurrayso card that15:43
bdmurraybug 187428715:44
ubottubug 1874287 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "ubiquity must allow debconf database access when ubuntu-drivers executes apt-get install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187428715:44
bdmurraythat already has a card15:44
bdmurraythen our dbus time out friend15:44
bdmurraybug 142476815:44
ubottubug 1424768 in whoopsie (Ubuntu Bionic) "Consider switching to path based activation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142476815:44
vorlonthis has a card already15:45
bdmurraythat already also has a card15:45
bdmurrayhere's an old bug15:45
bdmurraybug 76441415:45
ubottubug 764414 in apport (Ubuntu) "private master bugs are confusing and lead to more duplicate filings" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76441415:45
vorlonnot sure what we even could do with that15:47
bdmurrayColin indicated there was a Launchpad question about this as somebody encountered a master crash which was private15:47
vorlonah, Robert had a suggestion15:47
vorlonbut I think 'wishlist' is accurate and don't think we should commit to this15:48
bdmurrayyeah, it hasn't seen much activity recently15:48
bdmurraywe could be better about making private crashes public15:48
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:49
bdmurraybug 189043515:49
ubottubug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189043515:49
bdmurrayokay we are still waiting on upstream15:51
bdmurraybug 190077415:51
ubottubug 1900774 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "[arm64] EFI stub: ERROR: FIRMWARE BUG: efi_loaded_image_t::image_base has bogus value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190077415:51
bdmurraylet's take that15:52
bdmurraybug 190100015:53
ubottubug 1901000 in OEM Priority Project "dmesg need permission after kernel 5.8" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190100015:53
bdmurraywell we are about out of time15:54
bdmurrayhowever, I wanted to raise bug 190172515:55
ubottubug 1901725 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "check-new-release-gtk tells i386 users Ubuntu 20.04.1 is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190172515:55
vorlondidn't we have a bug about that previously?15:55
bdmurrayRight we fixed it so the upgrade doesn't happen15:55
bdmurrayWe just didn't fix the checker15:56
tdaitxregarding bug 764414 this feels that bugs being all-or-nothing private/public is at the bottom of the problem? would being able to set some items (attachments/comments) as private in a public bug a possible solution? not sure how that would be implemented, just asking15:56
ubottubug 764414 in apport (Ubuntu) "private master bugs are confusing and lead to more duplicate filings" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76441415:56
vorlonright - we had talked about this previously though, and I thought there was previously a bug opened15:56
vorlontdaitx: well, if you want to go propose patches to launchpad I guess :)15:57
bdmurrayI didn't find it easily as searching for i386 wasn't helpful.15:57
vorlonfair enough15:57
vorlonanyway, we should take15:57
bdmurrayand put it at the top for the next sprint probably15:58
vorlon(card, since it's already targeted)15:58
bdmurray#topic AOB15:58
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juliankI'm out next week!15:58
tdaitxvorlon: if the idea I proposed makes any sense, we could have at least a whishlist bug open against launchpad for that, unless there is already one15:59
vorlonskipping proposed-migration on the agenda because everything is blocked by autopkgtests15:59
vorlon(queue is 9,000 deep on amd64)15:59
rbalinti'm out tomorow15:59
vorlontdaitx: sure15:59
vorlonI'm out from next Tuesday to the following Wednesday15:59
vorlon(i.e. back the following Wednesday)16:00
juliankam I supposed to send out a +1 report?16:00
vorlonyes but I haven't sent my last 316:00
bdmurrayalright, thanks everybody16:01
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