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ubptgbot<Shakendo> @dohbee [someone is working on a port for s7 though i think], I dont know if its a S7 flat or S7 edge though00:57
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @dohbee [mtp on usb, ssh (sftp) if you enabled it, wifi transfer app in store, and i thin …], it can, Ive been doing it on my note 400:58
ubptgbot<SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @Shakendo [I dont know if its a S7 flat or S7 edge though], S7 Flat.01:01
ubptgbot<Ryan Long> Is there any device supported by Ubuntu Touch that supports MMS?01:24
ubptgbotPumpWbc was added by: PumpWbc01:30
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> 1DpvghKwhrwZyyCyWMQ2tnLaV3yEznFndB01:30
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> Please donate btc01:30
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @Ryan Long [Is there any device supported by Ubuntu Touch that supports MMS?], MMS being Multimedia Messages?01:30
ubptgbot<Ryan Long> yep01:31
ubptgbot<Shakendo> I think any of the core device can, I dont know if my port does or not, and I cant speak for the other community ports, are you looking to buy a device or do you already have one?01:32
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @PumpWbc [1DpvghKwhrwZyyCyWMQ2tnLaV3yEznFndB], is this spam?01:32
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @PumpWbc [1DpvghKwhrwZyyCyWMQ2tnLaV3yEznFndB], [Edit] is this spam? @UniversalSuperBox01:32
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> This is official site01:32
ubptgbot<Shakendo> we dont do anything with btc in here unless its an error on a Ubuntu Touch port01:33
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> Check first01:33
ubptgbot<Shakendo> no01:33
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> Check fool person01:34
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> (Photo, 606x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/NlFyoOBh.png01:34
cchello,when i use 'libertine-container-manager destroy -i xenial'01:34
ccit told me that01:34
ccLibertine.py:125: ERROR: _delete_rootfs():      [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'dev'01:34
ccwhat's that mean? i have tried google it,some web told me use 'sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyACM0 '01:35
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> Tell me now01:35
ubptgbot<Ryan Long> @Shakendo [I think any of the core device can, I dont know if my port does or not, and I ca …], I have a Pinephone CE but MMS has a long way to go on any available OS01:35
cci'm not sure it's correct or not01:35
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @PumpWbc [Tell me now], you are Spamming01:35
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> @Shakendo [is this spam? @UniversalSuperBox], You are scammer01:35
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @PumpWbc [You are scammer], yes, I totally am a scammer01:36
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> You are beggar01:36
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @Ryan Long [I have a Pinephone CE but MMS has a long way to go on any available OS], I think thats just a Pinephone thing, mayne even halium9, Im not sure of the status of MMS on that01:36
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @PumpWbc [You are beggar], once again, totally right01:36
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> But why01:37
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> @PumpWbc [<reply to media>], This is your site01:37
ubptgbot<Shakendo> yeah, thats -YOUR- site01:38
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> You have no any technical knowledge01:39
ccme?01:39
ubptgbot<Shakendo> if you come in here and say "donate" or "pay" with no context its treated as spam, you gave no context aside from a btc number01:39
ubptgbot<Shakendo> I am not part of UBPorts, I volunteer01:40
ubptgbot<PumpWbc> Ok sir01:40
ubptgbot<SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> Maybe we should hack his ip address to find out what call center he is in right now, and report him to CBI.02:00
ubptgbot<SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @Shakendo02:00
ubptgbotJohn Roland was added by: John Roland02:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Sorry for the interruption @Shakendo, please don't feed the trolls02:24
ubptgbot<Shakendo> sorry, its been a long day for me so I was a bit short on my temper02:27
ubptgbotR29kTA was added by: R29kTA02:30
ccexcuse me,hope someone see my question,if i'm off line, hope someone send me memo02:36
ccthanks a lot!02:36
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @cc [Libertine.py:125: ERROR: _delete_rootfs():      [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'd …], did you try the command with sudo?02:53
ccyes02:55
cclibertine-container-manager:446: ERROR: <module>():     Please do not run 'libertine-container-manager' using sudo02:55
ubptgbotKayPee123 was added by: KayPee12303:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @YougoChats [Like using UT on a tv for watching a movie? That's some while off yes...], yeah that or similar interactions, using mouse keyboard 3 meters away from the screen isn't exactly much fun :p05:05
ubptgbotYunysevgen was added by: Yunysevgen06:03
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Fuseteam [yeah that or similar interactions, using mouse keyboard 3 meters away from the s …], An option to duplicate the screen in a traditional xrandr style would help with that. Which would be another spot on the horizon for lomiri development07:58
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Greg [Oh I see, in terms of maturity would you say it is similar the fairphone and one …], the hardware functions are supported (there is also SailfishOS port which can be used as reference), but it's not as polished yet, which should come over time08:32
ubptgbotLucaBellini was added by: LucaBellini08:48
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> hello08:48
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> i need help08:48
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> i installed ubports in my kubuntu 18.04 machine but i didn't understand how to start it08:49
ubptgbot<Danfro> @LucaBellini [i installed ubports in my kubuntu 18.04 machine but i didn't understand how to s …], If it does not show up in apps list, even after a reboot, you should be able to start it via terminal with `ubports-installer`.09:11
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> @Danfro i get this error when i try install Error in file "/usr/share/applications/org.kde.kdeconnect_open.desktop": "*/*" is an invalid MIME type ("*" is an unregistered media type)09:12
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> @Danfro [If it does not show up in apps list, even after a reboot, you should be able to …], i get this error when itry to install Error in file "/usr/share/applications/org.kde.kdeconnect_open.desktop": "*/*" is an invalid MIME type ("*" is an unregistered media type)09:12
ubptgbot<LucaBellini> issue resolved ubport installed09:17
ubptgbot<YougoChats> does anyone know how to force destroy a libertine container? libertine is just horribly stuck doing either nothing good, or nothing at all09:28
ubptgbotsamirkushwaha was added by: samirkushwaha09:48
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html#destroy-a-container ?09:57
ubptgbot<Stereofont> A UBports group in Hebrew was discussed ages ago. Are there users here who would like to join one?10:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @YougoChats [An option to duplicate the screen in a traditional xrandr style would help with …], hmm not really, the 10 foot experience is way different than you expect11:32
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Binoculars 😁11:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/04cH1gfi.webp11:41
ubptgbot<Greg> @NotKit [the hardware functions are supported (there is also SailfishOS port which can be …], That's good so there's nothing that shouldn't be able to get working? On my fairphone the flash doesn't work which is a hardware issue11:43
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Greg [That's good so there's nothing that shouldn't be able to get working? On my fair …], Halium 7.1 will maybe fix that11:44
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Greg [That's good so there's nothing that shouldn't be able to get working? On my fair …], yes, flashlight works with gst-droid11:49
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Fuseteam [hmm not really, the 10 foot experience is way different than you expect], now you're making it up to be some mystery but we all have tv's in our living room ,and many of us have been in meetings with presentations or spreadheets up on a central display, at least i have. use of a big screen in combination with a human operate12:07
ubptgbotd pc can imo roughly be narrowed down to  … -playing content or presenting and sitting/standing back:  the remote screen can be an extended desktop or a separate output altogether. not much interaction is needed. ideally a local screen/interface can function as a remote control but walking up to the big screen or moving a mouse cursor to it to star12:07
ubptgbott and end the content is a minor inconvenience … -displaying and editing content during a meeting: looking up to a big screen, probably from an odd angle and moving a cursor, especially on a high res screen with tiny widgets miles apart is a hassle. especially if the connection is wireless with a lot of latency and dropped frames. a local screen th12:07
ubptgbotat is duplicated on the large display helps … -using the big screen as your only workspace, or as extended workspace: this might seem less likely but many have had to adjust to working at home during COVID and started out exactly like this as they had no practical home office. place your 40"+ 4K tv on the dinner table and use it as a display to you12:07
ubptgbotr 13" laptop (provided it has a graphics card that doesn't break down and cry at the thought). either your stuf is tiny and miles apart, or you scale your ui to have HUGE buttons. trying to do work on a big screen like that indeed doesn't work. … game consoles, entertainment centers and smart tv's have adapted UI's that focus more on directional bu12:07
ubptgbotttons and a simple block or list menu interface  … as it stands now, UT's external display mode isn't very suited for too big screens and would fall in the third category. … is there any aspect of this '10 foot experience' i might have missed? … i think UT/lomiri could do well with a virtual-desktop-linked-to-displays mode. you'd have a usable desk12:07
ubptgbottop on both the local screen and the remote screen, and via window management you can send a window to 'desktop 2' or vice versa. you can make a phone call with the device at your ear without disturbing the secondary screen. the mouse pad functionality could run in a window.12:07
ubptgbot<YougoChats> ok sorry that wall of text looked smaller while typing😂12:08
ubptgbot<Flohack> Better forum post I would say :P12:08
ubptgbot<Stereofont> And a reinforced table 😂12:09
ubptgbot<Flohack> @YougoChats [now you're making it up to be some mystery but we all have tv's in our living ro …], You could have smth similar to Nintendo Switch. The UX is interesting there...12:11
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Flohack [You could have smth similar to Nintendo Switch. The UX is interesting there...], like putting GIMP's toolbars on the local screen and the workspace on the big screen12:12
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @YougoChats [now you're making it up to be some mystery but we all have tv's in our living ro …], whoa that's a big post but that's not a 10 foot experience i'm not talking about meeting presentation; look it up you'll be surprised, i know i was and we're veering offtopic. i'm open to take this to pm12:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @YougoChats [now you're making it up to be some mystery but we all have tv's in our living ro …], [Edit] whoa that's a big post but that's not a 10 foot experience i'm not talking about meeting presentation; look it up you'll be surprised, i know i was i used to boil it down to "focus on directional keys" but there's a lot more that goes12:18
ubptgbot into it and we're veering offtopic. i'm open to take this to pm xD12:18
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I think as long as its scaled right, Lorimi would work ok on a tv with a playstation or xbox controller, I've used metro apps on the xbox before, they aren't fantastic but as long as you consider the input apps and interfaces, than its not to bad. … I don't think Lorimi would make as good of a tv experience as the latest console12:24
ubptgbots, but I don't think the latest consoles would make a good phone experience, but I do think Lorimi scales, and if someone wanted to put the time and effort in, it could at least be a good experience with your latest playstation controller, or tv remote.12:24
ubptgbot<Javacookies> something like this? 😂 … https://youtu.be/jq_WaOLjdyQ12:52
ubptgbot<Bibarub> Fwd from Bibarub: how to install google play services in anbox?12:52
ubptgbot<Bibarub> i know this question is not related to ubports, but i haven't got a reply in anbox chat12:53
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Javacookies [something like this? 😂 … https://youtu.be/jq_WaOLjdyQ], at the time it was a solution looking for a problem imo. it will swing around to being usefull when we get to a point where your phone will replace even you tv13:05
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Javacookies [something like this? 😂 … https://youtu.be/jq_WaOLjdyQ], [Edit] at the time it was a solution looking for a problem imo. it will swing around to being usefull when we get to a point where your phone will replace even your tv13:05
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Bibarub [how to install google play services in anbox?], That wont work Im afraid13:05
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Parallellhistory [<reply to media>], like this13:06
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Bibarub [how to install google play services in anbox?], https://geeks-r-us.de/2018/09/04/anbox-update-overlay/ (only available in German, it seems)13:29
ubptgbotDgNegative was added by: DgNegative14:11
ubptgbot<Pablo> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/011bJZW7.webp15:53
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Pablo please stop sending stickers every few hours15:53
ubptgbotGuineapig_2005 was added by: Guineapig_200515:55
ubptgbot<jameshjacksonjr> Yes I agree at least wait 3 hours between stickers15:58
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well, they're also unrelated to the previous conversation and inappropriate, but I didn't feel the need to mention it at first.15:59
ubptgbotsajjad_u was added by: sajjad_u16:40
ubptgbot<sajjad_u> hello guys, can i install ubunto touch in my redmi note 7 ?16:42
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @sajjad_u [hello guys, can i install ubunto touch in my redmi note 7 ?], Probably16:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hi @sajjad_u, you can find our supported devices and installation instructions at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/16:44
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @Javacookies [something like this? 😂 … https://youtu.be/jq_WaOLjdyQ], I almost forgot about this, I actually think it could be a cool feature for UT to adopt for when connected, give an option for a set-top like this or the regular convergence experience, and have it set in the settings app17:19
ubptgbot<Guineapig_2005> Wow)) Hurry up!!🤑🤑🤑☄️☄️ … https://bit.ly/31TYKoL17:23
ubptgbotKekkaiHegara was added by: KekkaiHegara17:29
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @Shakendo [I almost forgot about this, I actually think it could be a cool feature for UT t …], It would definitely be cool and awesome. I was a PC + monitor guy for a long time but in the past years, I like a big screen setup (TV/Projector) and I actually do most of my youtube sessions with the TV app/UI.17:51
ubptgbot<sajjad_u> @UniversalSuperBox [Hi @sajjad_u, you can find our supported devices and installation instructions a …], thanks a lot18:22
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PhoenixLandPirate [I think as long as its scaled right, Lorimi would work ok on a tv with a playsta …], yeah but uh scaling on a tv is different from say scaling on a monitor19:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> no19:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> scaling is just scaling19:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> but anyway, ubuntu tv is not happening19:35
ubptgbotquentingonus1 was added by: quentingonus120:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> true not enough people were and are interested21:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the reason i say its different is because this can be scaled a lot smaller if you sitting 30cm from a screen compared to when you sit 3meters from a screen21:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but true not enough people were and are interested to make it happen :p21:11
ubptgbot<quentingonus1> (Photo, 1024x557) https://irc.ubports.com/3GN2146j.png21:44
ubptgbotplus_Zn_minus was added by: plus_Zn_minus22:04
ubptgbottesla786 was added by: tesla78622:57
ubptgbot<tesla786> Hey guys, I want to buy an Ubuntu mobile phone. Any recommendations please ?22:57
ubptgbot<X YZ> Depends on your needs, budget and willingness to live with limitations / work in progress. You can take a look at the list of supported devices and status on the ubports website. 2020/21 sees even quite a few new devices with Ubuntu touch, from the pinephone (delivered and aimed at developers mostly) and the vollaphone (now being shipped and23:10
ubptgbot intended to be a "daily driver") to the just a few days ago announced f(x)tec in cooperation with xda. Those three can also work with other OS. So lots of alternatives to chose from. 👍23:10
ubptgbot<Pablo> The channel is available in Spanish23:55
ubptgbot<Pablo> ?23:55

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