[00:09] <ComputerTech> k got it working
[00:15] <wolfzrat> awesome dude
[00:21] <jimklo> greetings using ubuntu 18.04, i'm trying to figure out how to do smb mounts for fuse mounts, and running into all kinds of issues wondering if there is a right way to do this?
[00:23] <jimklo> this is roughly what I've tried https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SqJ3t2m7xF/
[00:25] <davido_> How can I troubleshoot issues with a Wacom tablet on Ubuntu 20.04? The behavior is that the Wacom Tablet settings in the Gnome Settings tool have no effect on the tablet: absolute vs relative, map to monitor, letterbox, etc. No effect.
[00:36] <wolfzrat> @davido_: hi perhaps this link can guide you from here on
[00:36] <wolfzrat> https://askubuntu.com/questions/284284/wacom-tablet-support-in-ubuntu
[00:37] <davido_> i'll review, thanks
[00:38] <davido_> I've got a centos 7 box on an older kernel that doesn't flinch but my Ubuntu 20.10 system is unhappy with it.
[00:38] <davido_> (sorry for previouisly mentioning 20.04)
[01:00] <davido_> Figured it out. This is a bug.
[01:01] <davido_> If I use xsetwacom set $id MapToOutput $display, and use the pad ID, it doesn't work. If I use the stylus ID, it works.
[01:01] <davido_> The gnome settings tool is mapping the pad ID. The setting needs the stylus ID to be mapped to a display.
[01:02] <davido_> That's backwards from every bit of online documentation I find.
[01:02] <davido_> However, I'm not quite sure how to describe that bug, nor do I have any idea who to submit it to. But I can work around it with a script at least.
[02:46] <k_sze> For servers, what are compelling reasons to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04?
[02:50] <sarnold> newer zfs, newer qemu, newer libvirt, newer openstack packages, newer dpdk, newer python3, newer ceph..
[02:50] <sarnold> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes
[02:50] <sarnold> also check the release notes for the previous three releases, there might be stuff on them too
[03:05] <k_sze> Thanks.
[03:12] <deus6> doubt regarding Gnome(version 3.36.3) in Ubuntu (20.04.1 LTS). Whenever you hover over any app icon, it shows an option: "Launch using dedicated Graphics Card" . How can I make this action default?
[03:13] <sarnold> you might be able to configure the onboard to not run at all? I'm not sure, I've never been brave enough to buy such a system :)
[03:14] <deus6> ok will see
[07:08] <b247_eu> good moring everyone, need some help to install ungoogle-chromium on ubuntu 20.10, please help
[07:32] <rk4> what have you tried
[07:35] <ducasse> b247_eu: that's not really supported here, as it's not supplied by ubuntu
[07:57] <anarhist> Hello. At this moment all of the browsers on my machine fail to play youtube videos. youtube-dl works, and when i go to the page for the video, i can see that it loads fine. but then i get the message "If playback doesn't begin, try restarting" I have rebooted the machine and restarted browser, i have gone into private mode and tried a new profile. i have noticed that before this has started i did a dist-upgrade and there were messages about adding cer
[07:57] <anarhist> tificates, so i have reinstalled all the ceritificates (apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates) i have then rebooted but still the problem remains
[07:59] <anarhist> the problem went away for 30 seconds one time after i have shut down the machine and all routers, i have then waited a little bit and started everything back up again. but then very quickly it stopped working after playing one adert on a video
[07:59] <anarhist> i am on xubuntu 18.04
[08:09] <guiverc> anarhist, I can't imagine what would cause that; do you have the same issue if you use *live* media (eg. Xubuntu on thumb-drive and using Try Xubuntu)
[08:12] <anarhist> guiverc, wow, i didn't quite go that far yet. i guess that i can wait for the problem to magically go away, if it doesn't i'll try playing around with that. for now i guess i can try another computer, i do have it handy, and maybe load up something on a smartphone... to see if it is an issue with youtube in my house or my setup
[08:14] <anarhist> ok, i think the problem is completely different. vimeo also doesn't work, and local videos play with no sound
[08:15] <guiverc> live media is usually a good idea, it uses the same hardware, but being a different OS/system (even if just uninstalled version, it'll still have a somewhat different config)  if it works there, but not your installed system, it's likely a config issue (creating a new user would be my next test after live)
[08:15] <anarhist> aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! it was a problem with the wrong sound profile being selected
[08:15] <guiverc> :)  easily fixed then
[08:16] <anarhist> yeah, just about an hour an a half
[08:16] <anarhist> and asking on #seamonkey (my browser), #xubuntu, and here... getting whole bunch of people helping me... and rebooting a whole bunch of times
[08:17] <anarhist> easy fix!
[08:17] <anarhist> if somebody wants to know, it was the fact that surround sound was selected as a profile, but i have no surround sound
[08:18] <anarhist> it probably couldn't connect some audio stream or something
[08:23] <guiverc> anarhist, I suspect the audio (with surround signal encoded) was sent to your speakers wasn't understood so they remained silent, but that's just a guess
[08:24] <anarhist> and the browser refused to play the video at all, until the sound was fixed
[08:24] <anarhist> that was the strange part
[08:24] <anarhist> but now i know
[08:24] <guiverc> okay, that sounds more like it was in the OS (not speakers)
[08:25] <anarhist> i guess it is something similar to how youtube videos stop playing when i get a skype call
[08:25] <anarhist> there is some detection mechanism somewhere
[08:29] <pikapika> Sound is a very subtle and complex subject
[08:35] <b0ulder> Hey :)
[08:35] <b0ulder> anyone experience using usb-c docking stations with laptops running ubuntu? I
[08:36] <b0ulder> I am wondering if I need to get a vendor specific station (eg. lenovo) one or if there is a acceptable solution for most vendors, which works with linux
[08:37] <pikapika> I have heard docking stations are quite expensive
[08:45] <b0ulder> that is not my biggest concern actually
[08:47] <zaggynl> howdy, I work with laptops/docks at work, I could give this a test
[08:48] <zaggynl> dell/hp
[08:52] <rk4> b0ulder: sure, w/ a new thinkpad w/ doc. works fine for charging and as a usb hub, sound/video didnt work when i tried
[08:54] <b0ulder> @rk4 well, I would consider video the most important feature using a dock :D
[08:55] <b0ulder> @zaggynl have you tried startech models or vendor speccific ones?
[08:56] <rk4> b0ulder: oh, and the doc eth works fine, comes up as a second nic which is neat
[09:07] <tatertots> b0ulder: since there are different "modes" of USB-C supported by each chipset/card you'll have no concrete way of knowing what a docking station will support until you actually physically own one
[09:08] <tatertots> b0ulder: your computer may or may not support video over USB-C
[09:08] <b0ulder> so I'll choose a docking station with my preferred peripherals and then search for compatibility issues
[09:09] <b0ulder> but those may also depend on the linux-client as well I suppose...
[11:23] <maxupp> hey folks, i'm having a bit of a weird one. I'm on a fresh kubuntu install, and no matter which mirror i chose, apt update always runs into some errors
[11:24] <maxupp> and pretty much all attempts to install packages via apt result in no installation candidate
[11:24] <maxupp> i have even set the mirror list to the example one from the docs, same result
[11:25] <maxupp> letting the software-sources app chose a mirror let's it pick an ftp one, which isn't supported by default, whole different issue
[11:25] <maxupp> any ideas what's going on here?
[11:28] <maxupp> i guess the apt mirrors are jsut broken again at the moment
[11:29] <maxupp> linux really isn't what it oncec was
[11:29] <Deano59> maxupp: mirrors are fine here. do you *have* a working Internet connection?
[11:30] <maxupp> yep
[11:30] <Deano59> can you ping?
[11:30] <maxupp> just pinged 8.8.8.8
[11:30] <maxupp> 15ms
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:30] <Deano59> can you ping the apt source? the http one?
[11:32] <maxupp> archive.ubuntu.com is pingable
[11:33] <maxupp> apt update works for the most part, it's just some essential ones that fail
[11:34] <Deano59> maxupp: you probably have an outdated/broken repo. try and remove the one's that *don't* work.
[11:34] <Deano59> so it IS working: "apt update works for the most part,"
[11:35] <maxupp> like i said, runs into some errors
[11:35] <Deano59> maxupp: what "errors" ?
[11:35] <maxupp> Hash Sum  mismatches
[11:35] <maxupp> for essentials like focal/main
[11:35] <Deano59> our crystal ball isn't working today.
[11:36] <maxupp> i can't exactly remove the main repos, can I
[11:36] <Deano59> ...
[11:36] <Deano59> good luck.
[11:36] <Deano59> :)
[11:36] <maxupp> dude
[11:37] <maxupp> like i wrote, i'm gettin hash mismatches no matter what mirror i pick
[11:37] <Deano59> our crystal ball isn't working today.
[11:38] <maxupp> and noone asked what errors, in fact noone said anything at all until i started spuoting bullshit
[11:38] <Deano59> wat
[11:38] <Deano59> are you lost, maxupp? are you okay?
[11:39] <Deano59> :)))))
[11:39] <Deano59> again, we need exact "errors"
[11:39] <Deano59> our crystal ball isn't working today.
[11:39] <maxupp> it's the internet... quickest way to get the right answer is posting the wrong one
[11:40] <Deano59> lol
[11:40] <maxupp> of course apt repos are fine
[11:40] <maxupp> but it made you pipe up, didn't it
[11:40] <Deano59> wat
[11:40] <Maik> mind stop fooling around guys? Thanks in advance
[11:40] <Deano59> Maik: ?
[11:40] <Deano59> whatcha on about, Willis.
[11:41] <Maik> seeing too much irrelevant nonsense
[11:41] <maxupp> lol, thx grandpa
[11:41] <Deano59> Maik: maxupp is trolling....
[11:42] <imi> hi. is there a top-like command which displays hdd bandwidth utilization instead of cpu utilization?
[11:42] <EoflaOE> imi: Does iotop suit you?
[11:42] <maxupp> iostat
[11:42] <maxupp> iotop works as well
[11:43] <rk4> yee ol and already installed vmstat 1 has a blocks in/out field too
[11:43] <imi> EoflaOE: it does. thank you.
[11:44] <EoflaOE> You're welcome imi. Have a nice day!
[11:44] <imi> :)
[11:51] <xtao> when you have something that constantly crashes every time you boot the PC and you get the "a problem has been detected, do you want to report it?" is it better to only click on yes once and then click on cancel every other time, or just click on yes every time. wondering if that annoys anyone if you're constantly reporting the same crash
[11:52] <maxupp> noone looks at these anyway, don't bother
[11:52] <xtao> heh. well yes that's one way of looking at it
[11:52] <guiverc> xtao, if the crash gets uploaded, a .uploaded gets added to the /var/crash directory indicating it's been uploaded & you'll not get prompted again.  the repeated prompt means it couldn't upload, or upload failed.
[11:53] <xtao> ahh. yes there's no .uploaded, only .crash
[11:53] <guiverc> I disagree maxupp, they are monitored mainly by the system which records how many users hit the issue, thus the 'heat' of particular bugs.. uploading is important & valuable
[11:54] <xtao> so if it changes to .uploaded and then another crash of the same pricess happens, it *won't* prompt to upload the new crash because it already has the .uploaded ?
[11:54] <xtao> *process
[11:56] <maxupp> not that anyone cares, but the hash mismatch issue stemmed from Hyper V being running on the VM Host
[11:59] <guiverc> You can refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for more details, if `ubuntu-bug /var/crash/[filename].crash` fails, I often re-try with `sudo ubuntu-bug..` (which I don't believe should be necessary, but I've had it work on rare occasion where it fails without sudo)  then `rm` the crash file if it's still annoying me..
[11:59] <guiverc> xtao, ^
[12:03] <Descriptioned> Hello, my wireless mouse it takes to long to respond after ubuntu 20.04 lts starts up..... And if anyone knows any player/program that will allow me to cast from my laptop to my TV movies, ive see few programs have it as a built in option like "Popcorn-time" i dont see why its so difficult to find a way without the need to spent money to buy something.
[12:14] <Descriptioned> anyone alive?
[12:15] <maxupp> no
[12:17] <Maik> !patience | Descriptioned
[12:17] <Descriptioned> uff
[12:19] <ducasse> Descriptioned: vlc can cast to a chromecast
[12:21] <Rojola> hi
[12:22] <Rojola> how can I get an IP address from India, Pakistan or Bangladesh for a moment?
[12:22] <Rojola> any free VPN / Proxy options out there?
[12:23] <Rojola> there is a website that is unwilling to serve me from abroad
[12:23] <ducasse> Rojola: that's not an ubuntu question, find an appropriate channel with !alis
[12:25] <Rojola> ducasse, well, it should work on Ubuntu
[12:25] <Rojola> a windows app won't help me
[12:26] <ducasse> first of all, free vpn/proxy has nothing to do with ubuntu, second we don't support bypassing site restrictions
[12:38] <semighost> If I, in theory, had a RISC-V computer, could I install ubuntu on it, and run a browser and office suite?
[12:43] <Descriptioned> ducasse: so i need to buy chromecast ??
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Descriptioned, or use a wired connection like hdmi
[12:48] <Descriptioned> BluesKaj: i have hdmi cable but need to buy a longer one and its more comfortable if you have the laptop near you..
[12:49] <Descriptioned> BluesKaj: how is possible Popcorn-Time have it built in to cast the video on tv via WIFI ...
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Descriptioned, you probly need something like a TV that can receive wifi or as ducasse suggested, something like a chromecast
[12:56] <Descriptioned> BluesKaj: i have smart tv, laptop and tv are connected on same wifi network,
[13:03] <ducasse> Descriptioned: many smart tvs have chromecast support built in. you need some kind of hardware to receive the cast. another option is dlna if your tv supports it
[13:03] <Descriptioned> ducasse: my tv dont have chromecast build in
[13:03] <ducasse> check if it supports dlna
[13:04] <ducasse> (can also be labelled upnp)
[13:05] <ogra> semighost, you could ... though i doubt yu will find Risc-V systems with proper graphics chips yet ...
[13:05] <ducasse> Descriptioned: popcorn time uses either chromecast or dlna, so same thing there
[13:07] <semighost> good point ogra
[13:08] <Descriptioned> ducasse: i can't find dlna , my tv model is Samsung UE55NU7170
[13:09] <Descriptioned> ducasse: it have dlna built in.
[13:10] <ducasse> Descriptioned: if you select "Apps" in the menu on your tv, you don't see "media player" or "dlna"?
[13:12] <Descriptioned> ducasse: no nothing
[13:12] <Descriptioned> only dplay/apple music and e-manual
[13:13] <ducasse> Descriptioned: do you have a bluray player? many of them support dlna
[13:13] <Descriptioned> ducasse: no, but the tv have dlna built in
[13:14] <ducasse> Descriptioned: that is what i was asking
[13:14] <ducasse> Descriptioned: then set up a dlna server with your media library, and use that
[13:15] <ducasse> Descriptioned: try minidlna
[13:15] <Descriptioned> ducasse: how ?
[13:15] <Descriptioned> ok thanks man
[13:16] <ducasse> Descriptioned: https://askubuntu.com/questions/817500/how-to-set-up-a-dlna-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[13:16] <Descriptioned> ducasse: thanks! <3
[13:16] <ducasse> i've got to go in a minute, but will be back in 20 minutes or so if you run into issues
[13:19] <lennythebot> hello!
[13:52] <regedit> hello, trying to block a spambot pummeling our site, i added the IP address to ufw but apache access logs still filling up fast with that IP address attempt...
[13:52] <regedit> is order important in ufw? i see [1] OpenSSH ALLOW then [2] Apache Full ALLOW then [3] Anywhere DENY <IP ADDRESS>
[13:55] <bubbler> help
[13:55] <jpds> regedit: Yes, order is very importand in a firewall
[13:55] <bubbler> oops sry
[13:55] <regedit> jpds: so uh, in this case does it mean everyone is allowed to access apache, and the DENY comes up too late?
[13:56] <regedit> how do i make it the right order
[13:56] <jpds> regedit: Yes
[13:56] <jpds> regedit: You'll have to make a rule before the apache full allow to deny their IP
[13:57] <regedit> i basically just googled a command of how to add a deny for ip address, is there a command for shifting the order around?
[13:57] <regedit> or specifying what order the deny should be place at?
[13:57] <jpds> regedit: Read the ufw manpage
[14:00] <qwertuttyty> 20.10 U-Mate. 2 HDD MBR. Start the installer with ubiquity -b then install grub manually using a chroot. https://ibb.co/KNtDjH2 https://ibb.co/Vp8FGV5 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J6tdwPw8ZJ/ What was done wrong or was everything done right?
[14:00] <qwertuttyty> Start the installer with ubiquity -b then install grub manually using a chroot - ok
[14:02] <qwertuttyty> Start the installer with ubiquity -b then install grub manually using a chroot. Installation done - ok
[14:03] <qwertuttyty> VB start as efi
[14:05] <EriC^^> ?
[14:05] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[14:07] <EriC^^> qwertuttyty: ok, which partition is the root fs filesystem?
[14:12] <qwertuttyty> https://ibb.co/Vp8FGV5
[14:12] <qwertuttyty> ext4 boot
[14:12] <qwertuttyty> btrfs /
[14:27] <qwertuttyty> What are the thoughts on this?
[14:30] <qwertuttyty> I think it will also be on a real PC.
[14:34] <qwertuttyty> two HDD created as MBR
[14:40] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to run a Win32 program in wine on an Ubuntu focal 64bit and it seems to have random failures at interprocess communication. could this be because its process ID (as seen by ps, i.e. from outside wine) exceeds 2^32?
[14:43] <Descriptioned> ducasse: minidlna to share my videos and screen to the smart tv is a mess cant make it work.. its any other program ?
[14:43] <Serge> Hi there, I am trying to use some of the APIs provided by the latest linux kernel in Ubuntu (specifically the fanotify api). I have installed the new kernel (5.9) and the headers. However, when I go to recompile my program in gcc, I the new headers are not "visible" to gcc.
[14:43] <ducasse> Descriptioned: you might find kodi easier, but use the one in the team-xbmc ppa, *not* the one in the repos
[14:44] <Serge> I am not very familiar with how gcc, the kernel headers, and glibc all fit together
[14:44] <ducasse> Descriptioned: we don't really support it, but the one in the repos is broken by debian
[14:45] <Serge> But I have verified that there are new header files on my machine (located in /usr/src/linux-headers.../include). However, my /usr/include/x86.../sys/fanotify.h is still the old version. How can I update that so that I can use the new APIs provided by the kernel?
[14:46] <Descriptioned> im really disapointed from this, and that no so much issues or "missing things" was years back from ubuntu lol :
[14:46] <Serge> I have tried changing my program to include linux/fanotify.h instead of sys/fanotify.h but this results in a never-ending web of new dependencies that i have to pull in, so i think i'm doing something wrong.
[14:47] <ducasse> Descriptioned: i think there is some dlna support in gnome, but i've never tried it
[14:49] <EriC^^> qwertuttyty: what about sda? im confused why sdb and sda and why were you trying to install grub to sda?
[14:54] <ogra> Descriptioned, https://snapcraft.io/upnp-server ... (sudo snap install upnp-server)
[14:54] <qwertuttyty> And what can't be installed on the sda grub? sdb mbr with windows. I need Windows to start without grub.
[14:57] <qwertuttyty> sdb first partiion primary with Windows
[14:57] <EriC^^> qwertuttyty: but sdb has the ext4 and btrfs?
[14:58] <EriC^^> where is the primary partition of sdb? can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' qwertuttyty
[15:00] <qwertuttyty> sdb first partiion primary with Windows next secondary ext4 partiton  and btrfs partiton - my PC real HDD
[15:01] <peterbuldge> I have an encrypted luks partition on the same hdd as my main Kubuntu partition, Can I do a fresh install of kubuntu and still be to able decrypt the luks partion afterwards? Or there steps I need to take first? Meaning, is the LUKS encryption independent of the host OS? I am able to decrypt the partition from within a gparted livecd, and I know that sd cards and usb dries I've encrypted with LUKS in the past seem to work
[15:01] <peterbuldge> fine no matter what (linux) system I try them on.Would a full LUKS partition work the same way?
[15:01] <qwertuttyty> sdb first partiion primary with Windows next secondary btrfs partiton  and ext4 partiton - my PC real HDD
[15:01] <ducasse> peterbuldge: all you need is the passphrase
[15:02] <ducasse> or key, if you use that
[15:08] <peterbuldge> okay that's what i wanted to make\ sure of. thanks
[15:09] <ducasse> peterbuldge: to confirm, boot a live image and unluck the encrypted container
[15:13] <qwertuttyty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fK3pjYpSwc/
[15:14] <peterbuldge> qwertuttyty:Yeah I've done that a couple times already with a gparted live disc
[15:15] <peterbuldge> I'l try again through the Kubuntu live disc before I install anything
[15:25] <EriC^^> qwertuttyty: there's no windows on sdb
[15:27] <qwertuttyty> and no do as i on vb and see you cannot instaled u-mate 20.04 and 20.10 VB with efi
[15:27] <qwertuttyty> and no, do as i on vb and see you cannot installed u-mate 20.04 and 20.10 VB with efi
[15:28] <qwertuttyty> i chek and on real pc
[15:29] <qwertuttyty> I checked and on real PC
[15:30] <qwertuttyty>  I checked and on real PC next i checked on VB
[15:36] <qwertuttyty> humor. I'm writing with Windows. Trust me that the first section on sdb is Windows. it doesn't matter that on sdb in guest there is no first section primary with windows
[16:29] <ztane> hello, covid means lots of telecommuting.. I am envious of all my colleagues who have some kind of background censoring to their cameras and am trying to get the same for myself, hence fakecam, but snap fakecam just seem not to work at all... except for it runs, I've got loop camera device etc, and all I get is black on black on black :D
[16:31] <ztane> anyone had success with it?
[16:41] <YogaRolf> Hi. I am having trouble with Ubuntu. My screen is flickering. Is there anyone who would be so kind as to help me please?:)
[16:43] <ThinkT510> YogaRolf: what graphics card and drivers are you using?
[16:43] <YogaRolf> hi. I am not sure. Sorry
[16:43] <YogaRolf> how  can i check that ?
[16:44] <ThinkT510> YogaRolf: lspci will list your pci devices. your graphics will be the line with VGA on it
[16:45] <YogaRolf> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] (rev e2)
[16:46] <YogaRolf> the flickering seems to have stopped for now hmm
[16:46] <YogaRolf> dunno why nuy
[16:46] <YogaRolf> but
[16:46] <ThinkT510> YogaRolf: yup, that's your graphics card. if you open restricted drivers app that will show you wether there are any other drivers you can use
[16:47] <YogaRolf> how do i open that?
[16:48] <Maik> YogaRolf: Additional Drivers
[16:48] <ThinkT510> if you are running standard ubuntu that would be gnome3. so you can open the applications in the top left and start typing
[16:48] <YogaRolf> ok what do i type
[16:49] <ThinkT510> Maik: thanks for the clarification
[16:49] <Maik> YogaRolf: as i said
[16:49] <Maik> Additional Drivers
[16:49] <ThinkT510> YogaRolf: as Maik said, the app is called additional drivers
[16:49] <YogaRolf> ok thx
[16:49] <Maik> :)
[16:49] <YogaRolf> i do not think he said that but ok
 how do i open that?
 YogaRolf: Additional Drivers
[16:50] <YogaRolf> ok
[16:50] <YogaRolf> press windows buttton first?
[16:51] <Maik> yep
[16:51] <YogaRolf> it does not appear
[16:51] <YogaRolf> only something quake
[16:52] <Maik> pretty sure it does, or you're not running Ubuntu
[16:52] <YogaRolf> triggerrallyogra and quakespasm appears when i type that
[16:52] <Maik> Software & Updates --> Additional Drivers
[16:53] <YogaRolf> found it!!
[16:54] <Maik> great :)
[17:19] <ena3> hi everyone, I can't seem to make my printer work since I changed ISP this morning. I configured it years ago with an ethernet connection but I can't seem to find how to connect to its web interface. Could anyone lend some help? The printer is a Samsung ML1630W
[17:23] <ena3> i tried connecting directyl the printer to my computer and running the "ip a" command, but it seems the printer has no IP assigned. I tried adding a manual address with the ubuntu network manager but it doesn't let me save the configuration
[17:31] <leftyfb> ena3: your issue is a printer issue, nothing to do with ubuntu. You'll need to find out from your router or from the printer itself which ip it has. Also, plugging in the printers ethernet directly to your computer will not help you discover which ip it's getting from the network when plugged into the network
[17:41] <ena3> @leftyfb oh, ok. I figured I might ask here as I didn't manage to give it an address with the ubuntu network manager. I'm completely out of options and I didn't know where to ask. Do you have an idea where I might get help with this?
[17:42] <leftyfb> ena3: you did not gave an ip address to your printer using network manager on your computer. You gave your computer an ip address on the port that you plugged into the printer directly.
[17:42] <leftyfb> ena3: it's best if you read the documentation on your printer to learn how to manager it's network settings
[17:43] <zero4> Hello! Why whenever I use "-j ufw-user-input" in ufw rules (e.g. after.rules), ufw crashes on reload with "ERROR: Could not load logging rules" and the only fix is to "iptables -F && iptables -X"? I also tried "-j ufw-before-input" and while stuff seemingly works, restarting the machine yields no internet access until I disable ufw.
[17:44] <zero4>  Here's a super simple noop example that causes the above errors: https://hastebin.com/ebacolesoj.rb
[18:07] <ena3> @leftyfb I managed to access my printer's interface thanks to your advice. I apologize for disturbing this channel, and thank you again for your time
[18:49] <bubbler> :qa
[19:08] <zero4> How come I can't reference "ufw-user-input" from "after.rules"? I get "no such file or directory" even though "user.rules" which defines the chain runs before mine
[20:01] <arif-ali> Hey all, is there a way to find out why a package may have not been published in focal, but has been in bionic, groovy and now hirsute based om rmadison?
[20:01] <arif-ali> more specifically, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/arm64/salt-minion
[20:08] <sarnold> arif-ali: the publishing history page on the source package has the notes https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/salt/+publishinghistory
[20:08] <sarnold> "remove salt, left in focal-proposed after release"  and "removed from testing (Debian bug #930178), blocks python-augeas by autopkgtest regression" are the reasons
[20:09] <sarnold> hmm, that debian bug claims to be fixed in january.. I'm not sure
[20:09] <arif-ali> sarnold: thanks for that :)
[20:13] <arif-ali> sarnold: yeah that was version 2018.3.4, but there isn't an explanation for newer releases, other than the most recent one saying "remove salt, left in focal-proposed after release"
[20:14] <sarnold> yeah :( you could ask doko about it, but it's not in -release, for whatever reason..
[20:19] <arif-ali> cool, I'll ping him, when he's online
[20:19] <Aavar_> I am running out of space on / (i have a separate /home). How can I diagnose and remove something?
[20:20] <sarnold> Aavar_: ncdu -x /   is very handy
[20:22] <Aavar_> sarnold: Tnx, i'll try that
[20:32] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[20:33] <dbugger> I have an issue, when trying to pair my bluetooth keyboard (Logitech MX Keys) through a bluetooth dongle. The "Enter PIN" dialogue menu comes, but no matter how many times I try to input my PIN, the dialogue does not go away. It never pais. Does anyone know why?
[20:37] <sarnold> dbugger: I wonder, is there a cancel button? what happens if you just hit that?
[20:38] <dbugger> sarnold, pressing the cancel button does not close the dialogue
[20:38] <sarnold> :(
[20:38] <dbugger> ALT+F4 does, though
[20:38] <sarnold> oh weird
[20:38] <dbugger> I posted my question here, btw
[20:38] <dbugger> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1270419/20-04-logitech-mx-keys-wont-pair-with-bluetooth
[20:38] <dbugger> You can find more details about the problem
[20:38] <dbugger> I even put a bounty on the question, since i was getting no answers
[20:39] <sarnold> two months :( ouch
[20:39] <sarnold> is there a numpad on this keyboard?
[20:39] <sarnold> try toggling numpad switch?
[20:40] <_Sym_> maybe try building a newer kernel
[20:44] <codecutter> I thought I had cron set up to handle auto renewal for letsencrypt ssl but I am now getting expiration notice email to renew ssl
[20:45] <mgedmin> codecutter: check /var/log/letsencrypt to see if renewals failed
[20:45] <codecutter> cat?
[20:45] <mgedmin> codecutter: also if you change the set of domain names covered by a cert, you get these misleading expiration notices
[20:45] <codecutter> i did not change anything
[20:46] <mgedmin> or you could run certbot renew manually to see how it fails
[20:46] <dbugger> sarnold, i tried both... nothing
[20:46] <donofrio> what is the ubuntu management tool for enterprise called, not spacewalk?
[20:47] <codecutter> i have so many files in directory
[20:47] <mgedmin> donofrio: landscape?
[20:47] <codecutter> mgedmin which file?
[20:48] <donofrio> did it come from spacewalk? or another open source project?
[20:48] <mgedmin> codecutter: every certbot invocation creates a new /var/log/letsencrypt/letsencrypt.log; old logs get rodated and get numerical suffixes
[20:49] <mgedmin> codecutter: I usually do sudo ls -lrt /var/log/letsencrypt, find the last large log file, read that one
[20:49] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/32TccrFf
[20:49] <mgedmin> (small log files are from certbot renew running and noticing it has nothing to renew)
[20:50] <Maik> donofrio: no
[20:50] <Maik> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_(software)  https://landscape.canonical.com/
[20:52] <codecutter> mgedmin https://pastebin.com/FAXu7vbs (example.com = myhost.com)
[20:53] <mgedmin> spacewalk seems very redhat-oriented
[20:54] <mgedmin> codecutter: our guess was right: the renewals are failing
[20:55] <mgedmin> if you want to see _why_, you'll have to read the entire log, not just the last 13 lines
[20:55] <mgedmin> it's a damn shame #letsencrypt was shuttered down
[20:56] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/5xyZqWyc
[20:56] <mgedmin> the support is now on https://community.letsencrypt.org/
[20:56] <Maik> mgedmin: it is and came out a year after Landscape: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacewalk_(software)
[20:56] <mgedmin> anyway, the http-01 authorization failure shows that your web server is incorrectly configured
[20:58] <mgedmin> codecutter: what authorization plugin are you using?  if you don't know, you can look it up in /etc/letsencryt/renewals/*.conf
[20:58] <mgedmin> codecutter: also, what web server are you running?  apache?  nginx?  something else?
[20:58] <codecutter> nginx
[20:58] <codecutter> as reverse proxy
[20:58] <mgedmin> and the auth plugin ... ?
[20:59] <mgedmin> grep authenticator /etc/letsencrypt/renewal/*.conf
[20:59] <codecutter> authenticator = nginx
[21:00] <mgedmin> that sounds right, and since I primarily use apache, I don't think I can help you
[21:01] <mgedmin> try asking on https://community.letsencrypt.org/
[21:36] <frad> if I upgrade to 20.10 and I pause it while it downloads new packages or turn off the computer, do I have to start from scratchor will the system just keep downloading from the last package?
[21:39] <tomreyn> frad: you shoudn't try to pause or interrupt the release upgrade.
[21:39] <Bashing-om> frad: If release upgrading and you turn off the computer while in that process - you are likely to face a clean fresh install. The file system for 20.10 might then be very inconsistent :(
[21:41] <OtterCoder> Hello! Is there a way to set a $PATH for a .desktop file? I've got a binary set correctly in the $PATH in .bashrc, and while it works when I use bash, it's not reading when I open Sublime Text via icon.
[21:47] <tomreyn> OtterCoder: maybe something along these lines would work:   Exec=env PATH="$PATH:my extra path" someprogram
[21:47] <dbugger> I have a weird issue in 20.04. I am doing "sudo apt install v4l2loopback", but I am getting an "Unable to locate package" message. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[21:49] <tomreyn> OtterCoder: or, if expanding $PATH won't work like this, you can try this instead: Exec=sh -c "env PATH=\"$PATH:my extra path\" someprogram"
[21:55] <mgedmin> OtterCoder: if you set your custom path in ~/.profile rather than ~/.bashrc, it should be loaded by your GUI session
[21:57] <OtterCoder> That last one did the trick. Thank you!
[22:41] <frad> after upgrading, must I reboot asap or can i do it later?
[22:43] <Bashing-om> frad: depends on what you had running and want restarted with the new configurations.
[22:43] <frad> don't understand. The whole system was running
[23:05] <Bashing-om> fructose: If there is nothing that you need to restart at this time - then one can reboot at some later time.
[23:07] <mgedmin> it's a good idea to reboot sooner rather than later
[23:07] <mgedmin> e.g. screen locking doesn't work until you reboot
[23:10] <frad> is xsysinfo like sysinfo but for x environments?
[23:34] <Pr070cal> hi guys i never came back to let you know how i did with 20.10 and overlayroot
[23:36] <Pr070cal> right if you want an os partition structure like android read only os /system and rw /data so if you wipe the device you upgrade your device system is updated but data is not wiped so all your apps are still there but os is wiped and updated
[23:36] <Pr070cal> you need overlayroot edit /etc/overlay.conf
[23:37] <Pr070cal> overlayroot="device:dev=/dev/sdb1,swap=0,recurse=0"
[23:37] <Pr070cal> put that line at the bottom of the conf
[23:37] <Pr070cal> and make 2 dirs overlay and overlay-workdir
[23:37] <Pr070cal> on the partition in the conf
[23:38] <Pr070cal> and it works after reboot and mounts for you
[23:38] <Pr070cal> thats it
[23:39] <Pr070cal> all changes to root are stored in overlay
[23:39] <TJ-> Pr070cal: are you assuming /home/ is on another file-system? how about /boot/ and /var/ ?
[23:40] <Pr070cal> no /home /var and /boot are on /
[23:40] <Pr070cal> is now readonly and changes are written to /dev/sdb1/overlay
[23:42] <Pr070cal> if i wipe /dev/sda1 and install new os i then reinstall overlayroot edit the conf and all my programs and changes to / are reloaded after reboot
[23:43] <Pr070cal> so i install os install overlayroot conf reboot install snort install iptables and everything is there if you wipe / and reinstall overlayroot
[23:45] <TJ-> Pr070cal: for that use-case I'm unclear of the benefit? if you're using overlayfs to maintain a pristine OS install and writing changes only to a separate backing device, then why would you need to wipe the *pristine* OS install and reinstall it?
[23:46] <Pr070cal> to install a new os
[23:46] <Pr070cal> and restore all your programs
[23:46] <Pr070cal> when you reboot all your programs are installed
[23:49] <TJ-> Pr070cal: but *what* new OS? if you're using overlayroot then from the point you configure it any newly installed packages are in the backing store, but they are tightly integrated and depend on what is in the underlying read-only OS install. So if you change the underlying OS (which implies many many shared library dependencies will be broken) and then reinstate the loverlay, many applications in
[23:49] <TJ-> the overlay may fail to work correctly, and that may also affect programs in the new OS install too
[23:50] <Pr070cal> ok 20.04 wipe it install 20.10
[23:50] <Pr070cal> ok you might be right but how about snort ids takes ages to configure
[23:51] <Pr070cal> and everytime you have to read everything
[23:51] <Pr070cal> also you have everything backedup no need to copy
[23:51] <Pr070cal> plus os might stop working and you have to reinstall everything
[23:52] <Pr070cal> all programs run from terminal and that all you need is the bin and the confs
[23:52] <Pr070cal> then a new version is a bin and confs
[23:52] <Pr070cal> no system stuff that need to comply to the os
[23:53] <Pr070cal> program version is independant to os
[23:54] <TJ-> Pr070cal: I'd do something more fine-grained - have separate (LVM) LVs for rootfs, /home/ /var/ /boot/ and /etc/ --- then I'd allow /etc/ to be an overlayfs and possibly /var/ (although that could also cause issues) and with /home/ being on a separate file-system it won't be affected by a replacement OS
[23:54] <Pr070cal> works on rpi too
[23:54] <Pr070cal> and you can backup to cloud
[23:54] <Pr070cal> although i havnt tried kubernetes on 20.10 yet
[23:55] <TJ-> Pr070cal: most executable binaries are dynamically linked to shared object libraries and they declare the exact version of the shared library they require. One of the main things that changes on a new OS release is the shared library versions increase as new functionality is added and older functionality removed
[23:56] <Pr070cal> oh your right dependencies
[23:56] <Pr070cal> but then run upgrade
[23:57] <Pr070cal> anyone used kubernetes
[23:57] <TJ-> so then your writable backing store is overwritten with files from the new OS ... but that might not work if core executables are already broken - seen that many times when core library versioning is broken