[02:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:35] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Your call made it into UWN: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit :) Good as is ?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> looking great Bashing-om thank you, and tnx to guiverc perfectizing it, go for it!
[03:40] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: We spread our word :P
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> +1
[04:19] <guiverc> i just refined that summary (I was distracted when written by wanting to refine the source (2nd time that issue!))
[07:04] <ducasse> good morning
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[11:20] <TJ-> g'morning (just)
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> mgedmin: i reworked my dock bug a bit; bug #1902367
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: checkout the nice wiki daniel edited for us, pre bug team in #ubuntu-bugs-announce https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[11:41] <TJ-> I alreayd see a bug in the bug responses :D
[11:42] <TJ-> "1. Hold Right-Shift during Grub boot delay to access the boot menu. "   --- not on UEFI
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> lol, shoot
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:43] <TJ-> Also, just noticed a GDPR issue
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> what about
[11:44] <TJ-> "Missing a crash report or having a .crash attachment" --> "...content of file /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id ..." -> on mine includes my name@hostname
[11:45] <TJ-> but, so far as I've seen, there is no GDPR notice on submitting bugs using ubuntu-bug or others
[11:45] <TJ-> it's definitely PII
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> gdpr is such a cashmule TJ-
[11:46] <TJ-> not really; it's just about respecting and informing people and getting their permission
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> during corona a lot of restaurant & pubs have an oopen book register, where any customer can just browse all the previous users
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> how does that fit in gdpr
[11:47] <TJ->  User jack@somedomain might report bugs in a series of programs and upload crash reports that, combined, can easily identify both him and the things he does and uses
[11:47] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: here in the UK the law was amended to allow it
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: allow open registers?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: agree on crash bugs can reveal sensitive info
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> thought ive readed something in the future would be edited in dmesg to not reveal sensitive info
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.10-dmesg-Needs-Root
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> didnt test it yet on 20.10
[11:53] <TJ-> i've rarely seen sensitive info in kernel log
[11:54] <TJ-> that's usually in system service logs, like NetworkManager
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:59] <mgedmin> I got the impression the "sensitive info" is kernel addresses that could help malware defat KASLR
[12:01] <TJ-> that'd make more sense
[15:13] <sonicwind> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> the trolls methods, hunt old askubuntu threads and ask them in #ubuntu :p
[15:28] <jeremy31> Sounds like spammers on ubuntuforums.org
[17:26] <lapion> hi I solved my problem..
[17:26] <jeremy31> A divorce fixed it?
[17:27] <lapion> I found my March 2020 backup
[17:27] <lapion> I divorced from my fresh install
[17:27] <lapion> unpacked my tar.xz file and did an upgrade to 20.04
[17:29] <lapion> now I have my unmerged lib+bin usr/lib+bin folders
[17:35] <mgedmin> what was your problem with the merged /usr?
[19:53] <tomreyn> that's a secret, and it will always remain that.
[19:53] <tomreyn> right, lapion?
[19:55] <lapion> The binaries and libraries in the root fs meant for system maintenance and should be universal for the platform
[19:56] <lapion> One should be able to create a root filesystem that has a remote /usr mount that only gets mounted upon necessity
[19:57] <daftykins> lol
[19:58] <mgedmin> ah, arbitrary abstract principles rather than an actual problem
[19:58] <daftykins> so upgrades don't go too well when you break the OS to begin huh? who knew!?
[19:58] <mgedmin> (initramfs should be able to mount both / and /usr)
[20:03] <lapion> Besides athat a system running in maintenance mode should be able to be limited to maintenance binaries
[20:04] <lapion> it's not possible to do that if all binaries are linked into the same dirs as the root bin/lib dirs
[20:13] <tomreyn> the recovery system works fine, as far as i know
[20:13] <tomreyn> busybox, too