[00:10] <jesusrmx> thanks pavlos, it didn't work :(
[00:10] <jesusrmx> I mean I can still ṕush from command line but gitg gets stuck
[00:11] <jesusrmx> tried --system, --global and --local
[00:56] <Starship8012> hi, i am on ubuntu 18.04.5 and try to start a .JAR on startup. I decided to use crontab @reboot to start a .sh file which then starts the .jar file. here is my command: @reboot www-data /var/www/html/tool/tool-start.sh >> /home/log/log.log 2>&1
[00:56] <Starship8012> however, this command seems to be ignored. no log is created
[01:07] <Starship8012> oh, got :)
[01:34] <quadrathoch2> Hey, is there a way to ask for a password when I start virt-manager?
[01:39] <jpds> quadrathoch2: why?
[01:40] <quadrathoch2> jpds well, I am just used to it, and like it (as all other distros do it)
[01:41] <jpds> quadrathoch2: virt-manager hasn't asked me for a password on... Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo
[01:41] <quadrathoch2> oO it always asked me that on opensuse/debian/fedora
[01:42] <quadrathoch2> can't remember on arch
[01:42] <jpds> Is your user in the libvirt group?
[01:42] <quadrathoch2> jpds yes
[01:42] <jpds> Weird
[01:43] <quadrathoch2> i will just spin up a vm on debian to verify (need to install a de for a sec)
[01:59] <quadrathoch2> jpds yeah, just checked. debian asks me for the user password
[02:08] <][04|-050PYCKi> can you tell me where the application error logs and the distribution shell are stored ?
[02:08] <SDP> keep 6 feet away please
[02:10] <quadrathoch2> ][04|-050PYCKi do you mean /var/log?
[02:11] <quadrathoch2> and idk what you mean by distributionn shell
[02:11] <SDP> trick or treat
[02:12] <SDP> anyone recognize my costume?  I'm the AOL Instant Messenger icon.
[02:12] <SDP> asl
[02:14] <SDP> tough crowd
[02:14] <joeZ> Experiencing text and image files losing their content, anyone know how that can be happening?
[02:16] <quadrathoch2> i guess we need more info joeZ
[02:19] <][04|-050PYCKi> distro operating system.. misunderstandings of the translator .. sorry :)
[02:21] <quadrathoch2> ][04|-050PYCKi look probably in 'sudo journalctl'
[02:25] <ivzhh> There are many types of logs. File based logs are in /var/log; syslog based logs can be found in journalctl; if applications started with systemd and output logs to stdout/stderr, the logs can be found in journalctl too.
[02:26] <joeZ> Had been running the HP notebook with Mint, but decided to return to Ubuntu. Did a fresh install of 20.04 Mate and began saving photos on the computer and taking notes with pluma. And a few days later found many of the files showed 0 bytes. Thought maybe 20.10 would resolve the issue so upgraded to it once it became available, and the same thing happened a few days later. Tested the HD and found no errors, and everything seems
[02:26] <joeZ> normal otherwise. Don't know where else to look for why this is happening. Computer is always shut down properly.
[02:31] <quadrathoch2> joeZ I guess you are using the default filesystem? did you already look into the logs (journalctl?)
[02:50] <joeZ> both root and home are ext4 file systems and we looked at most every log in /var/log but saw nothing as well as dmesg. We can't think of a way that some, not all files in a folder are losing their content though the names remain and no errors are ever displayed. Also tried using a new folder name to store photos and notes after upgrading to 20.10 mate and had the same thing happen again, currently we are checking to see how many 0
[02:50] <joeZ> byte files exist each time the computer is booted and the last few days it has remained about 20, which seem to be normal.
[02:51] <quadrathoch2> joeZ did SMART give you any hints maybe?
[02:57] <joeZ> Ran the 'long' smartctl test which showed no problems.
[02:57] <quadrathoch2> joeZ and what about the bad blocks maybe?
[02:58] <quadrathoch2> because only a certain amount is 'okay' before the disk gets too many
[02:58] <rk4> `badblocks(8)` might be helpful there
[02:59] <joeZ> smartctl wouldn't show them if there are any?
[02:59] <quadrathoch2> first I would look at how many you got (through the firmware)
[02:59] <rk4> what sort of drive is this? ssd?
[03:02] <joeZ> It's a 2.5" SATA mechanical HDD. I've never used the badblocks command need the drive be unmounted to run it? and how do you look at the badblocks in firmware?
[03:04] <quadrathoch2> hm I was sure that smartctl would give out how many bad blocks the firmware reports :/
[03:05] <rk4> so other thing: if this data lost is important to you, take an image of your partition of disk sooner rather than later
[03:06] <EvilKittyBoi> hello
[03:06] <EvilKittyBoi> ubuntu suddenly stopped booting but linux did
[03:06] <EvilKittyBoi> sorry I mean windows still boots just fine
[03:06] <EvilKittyBoi> it made everything readonly... was complaining about read only filesystem and it stopped functioning
[03:07] <EvilKittyBoi> but windows works just fine... and it's a brand new hard drive I bought a month ago... so it makes no sense
[03:11] <Bashing-om> EvilKittyBoi: Boot back into Windows - make sure then that you shut Windows down completely ( NO hiberbatuon), boot up the ubuntu installer and run fsck on the ubuntu partition. Any errors reported that it can not fix ?
[03:12] <EvilKittyBoi> windows is not hybernating
[03:12] <quadrathoch2> windows is hibernating when you click shut down (at least as default)
[03:13] <EvilKittyBoi> I disabled that...
[03:13] <quadrathoch2> just wanted to make sure
[03:14] <EvilKittyBoi> what is more windows thinks there is filesystem corruption every time I attempt to boot into linux
[03:14] <Bashing-om> EvilKittyBoi: Thing is that the kernel goes read only to protect its self. A file sgsyem check may reveal why and/or fix the issue.
[03:14] <Bashing-om> system*
[03:14] <EvilKittyBoi> there's no readonly more in linux it flats out stopped booting
[03:14] <EvilKittyBoi> I can't do absolutely anything
[03:15] <EvilKittyBoi> I don't have a usb drive with me right now... I am using another computer, is there a way I can make it work again?... access the terminal at least
[03:15] <Bashing-om> EvilKittyBoi: We work a file system check from the liveUSB ( installer), Can not work on a file system that is mounted - a moving target that can not be hit.
[03:17] <Bashing-om> EvilKittyBoi: While there is a way - possibly - to boot the install - the correct thing is as stated - work from a live environment.
[03:19] <EvilKittyBoi> I don't have a USB stick
[03:20] <notadeveloper> hi how do i freeze ubuntu kernel and all of its dependencies from updating
[03:21] <EvilKittyBoi> will linux stop booting if one of my hard drives is damaged?
[03:21] <notadeveloper> damaged like scratched?
[03:21] <EvilKittyBoi> I can't see the older hard drive even in winblows
[03:21] <EvilKittyBoi> like I said I bought a new hard drive
[03:22] <notadeveloper> can you see it in the bios?
[03:22] <EvilKittyBoi> the older hard drive is still connected but i can't see their partitions
[03:22] <notadeveloper> it should show in the bios hdd list
[03:22] <EvilKittyBoi> yes I can see it... it's listed here but I can't see to see its partitions
[03:22] <EvilKittyBoi> not sure because I am in windows
[03:22] <EvilKittyBoi> I don't even remember if it was in ext4 but I should still be able to see the partitions
[03:23] <notadeveloper> EvilKittyBoi may be there is somethjing wrong with the partition table
[03:23] <EvilKittyBoi> no wait nevermind it's there
[03:23] <EvilKittyBoi> it's just ext4 indeed
[03:23] <quadrathoch2> notadeveloper look into apt pinning
[03:23] <notadeveloper> what should i pin quadrathoch2
[03:24] <EvilKittyBoi> so how can I boot into the terminal at least if I don't have a live usb
[03:24] <quadrathoch2> notadeveloper depends on what you have installed as a kernel, but for me it's linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[03:26] <EvilKittyBoi> so is it unfixable?
[03:26] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi it is fixable, but if you don't want to lose any data, using a usb would be best
[03:27] <EvilKittyBoi> I have no usb
[03:28] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi you could also use an external disk as a 'live usb stick'
[03:28] <EvilKittyBoi> I don't have that either
[03:28] <EvilKittyBoi> I'd like to get a terminal like in the old times, you pressed tab and you got into a terminal
[03:29] <quadrathoch2> well what error do you get?
[03:29] <EvilKittyBoi> I get the feeling the linux kernel has gotten more unstable the more time it passes, I don't remember having this issues before :(
[03:29] <EvilKittyBoi> no error it just straight up won't boot
[03:29] <javango> Hi. Is there any simple to use GUI app for managing samba?
[03:30] <EvilKittyBoi> it just decided to stop booting
[03:30] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi and what does that mean? like do you see grub? grub errors out or what
[03:30] <EvilKittyBoi> nothing, it does absolutely nothing... there's no grub, there's nothing...
[03:30] <javango> I need to share folders to concrete user and I want those folders and my computer to be visible in LAN
[03:31] <quadrathoch2> javango is the right click properties share option not enough? I guess that's only on proper ubuntu
[03:31] <EvilKittyBoi> but it does boot when I tell the bios to use windows instead...
[03:32] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi well, we need more info, nothing else will really help.
[03:32] <javango> quadrathoch2, I could have only shared subfolder in my home folder with this right-click-feature
[03:32] <EvilKittyBoi> I turn on the PC and it stays there, black screen with the logo of the motherboard
[03:32] <javango> I want also to share mounted drive
[03:32] <EvilKittyBoi> that's all...
[03:32] <javango> I cannot access it, although it seemed to be shared
[03:33] <EvilKittyBoi> no error messages, no logs, absolutely nothing... I was running linux before when it said readonly file system and then it turned itself off
[03:33] <quadrathoch2> javango I guess, then i don't know
[03:33] <EvilKittyBoi> I was doing some work when I got interrupted like that
[03:33] <leftyfb> EvilKittyBoi: first, physically remove/unplug your old hard drive, then try booting. If there's still no change, I would recommend waiting till you have a USB or CD you can boot to to further diagnose/repair
[03:34] <leftyfb> EvilKittyBoi: also, just because a drive is "new", doesn't mean it's not bad or maybe cabling or a motherboard problem
[03:34] <EvilKittyBoi> then it should also affect windows... I left the old hard drive for just random files
[03:34] <leftyfb> EvilKittyBoi: also https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001762.htm
[03:34] <EvilKittyBoi> that's off
[03:35] <leftyfb> EvilKittyBoi: ok, then follow the rest of the suggestions
[03:35] <leftyfb> EvilKittyBoi: nothing can be done till then
[03:35] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi I guess windows messed with the boot sequence, so just look into that, but as I said earlier, we would need more info to really help out
[03:36] <EvilKittyBoi> quadrathoch2, it did not because I was right on linux, booted into linux, was doing work when it decided to die on me
[03:36] <joeZ> exit
[03:36] <EvilKittyBoi> windows hadn't been booted in a while...
[03:37] <EvilKittyBoi> let me get a freaking usb drive, sigh...
[03:51] <EvilKittyBoi> the owner of everything is user#10000
[03:53] <quadrathoch2> literally everything?
[03:56] <EvilKittyBoi> don't know why my hard drive identifiers became sda but whatever I ran fsck
[03:56] <EvilKittyBoi> okei now it boots
[03:57] <EvilKittyBoi> why is there a new mounted thing called writable?
[03:57] <EvilKittyBoi> that's the name of the usb live, weird....
[03:58] <EvilKittyBoi> so why in the world fsck cannot run anymore on startup and why it corrupted my hard drive on its own to start with?
[04:00] <EvilKittyBoi> linux has gotten prettier and easier to use but at what cost :( maybe I should think to change to a more stable distro
[04:00] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi idk what you are doing but my ubuntu checks the disks every few boots :/ and was never an issue
[04:00] <EvilKittyBoi> my hard drive literally corrupted itself while doing some docker shenanigans
[04:01] <EvilKittyBoi> and then got into readonly mode, and everything started crashing and ended up into a restart and after that it didn't want to boot
[04:02] <EvilKittyBoi> that's why I am sure it wasn't windows, it just happened right in front of me :(
[04:02] <quadrathoch2> did you install docker form the repos or the docker repo?
[04:02] <quadrathoch2> from*
[04:03] <EvilKittyBoi> the issue is, that I recently changed distro because I was having issues with some other kernel like very weird port issues... in network... and now this scares me, because I couldn't even save anything it just blew up onto itself
[04:03] <EvilKittyBoi> from apt
[04:03] <EvilKittyBoi> I've been using docker from ages
[04:04] <EvilKittyBoi> like I know how to handle linux, I've been using linux for yeaaaaars, I just, never seen anything like this before...
[04:04] <quadrathoch2> apt is not a repo, so i guess ubuntu repo oO?
[04:04] <EvilKittyBoi> not even access to the terminal on startup, like what happened with the safe boot thing?... is it gone
[04:04] <EvilKittyBoi> yes the standard docker.io ubuntu repo
[04:05] <EvilKittyBoi> the three package managers have been causing me issues too... now there's apt, snap and flatpak...
[04:05] <quadrathoch2> it should still be there, just hidden
[04:05] <quadrathoch2> (grub is hidden not the option)
[04:06] <EvilKittyBoi> this is using systemmd
[04:06] <EvilKittyBoi> but honestly I am now well versed as in, a super OS geek, I just use linux to code good ol javascript garbage
[04:07] <quadrathoch2> hm then you should have added the added the safe boot to systemd-boot
[04:08] <quadrathoch2> yeah, i also hate that we have multiple package managers :/ pip also comes into mind, but I try to avoid as many as possible
[04:09] <EvilKittyBoi> but really, don't you get the feeling that things have gone more unstable recently?...
[04:10] <quadrathoch2> EvilKittyBoi for me it got better, so can't really complain
[04:10] <EvilKittyBoi> makes me wonder if the limits of technological development is going to be with us programmers unable to keep up with the sheer complexity
[04:11] <quadrathoch2> but yes complexity is going to strain the programmers at some point :/
[05:13] <javango> Sorry if it is wrong channel for this question. I have an ubuntu machine with mounted hard drive with photos. I want to watch those photos using Android device. Can anyone give me proper manual how to achieve it without pain?
[05:14] <fcgreg> javango: What do you mean "watch" these photos?  You mean you want to see the photos on your Android device?
[05:14] <javango> fcgreg, yes
[05:15] <javango> but I want it to be secured. Like prompt for password
[05:15] <javango> in L
[05:15] <javango> LAN
[05:16] <fcgreg> javango, do you want them to stay on your Ubuntu system and view/stream them on the Android, or do you want to transfer them to the Android?
[05:17] <javango> fcgreg, first thing. there are a lot of them. I want to be able to walk through folders and see different photos from time to time
[05:19] <javango> I started to dive into this and now I have two problems: 1. I use smb, my local (/home) folders are visible to android, but I couldn't login to mounted drive. Although I use the same user with same password and both dirs (dir on /home and dir on drive) are in the same group. 2. I don't know which app is able to conveniantly watch photos. I need to download each photo and then watch
[05:20] <javango> and the third problem is my bad English. Sorry for it
[05:21] <fcgreg> One common way to do this is by running a media server on your Ubuntu system and then connecting to it over your local network. This page has some suggestions: https://www.linuxlinks.com/photogallery/
[05:21] <fcgreg> Basically you're using HTTP to connect to your Ubuntu system that is mapped to your photo library.
[05:22] <javango> fcgreg, interesting. thank you. what about videos?
[05:22] <fcgreg> Some of those solutions will let you share media with others outside of your home network, but that is bigger than what you were asking
[05:22] <fcgreg> Most of them will do videos as well
[05:22] <javango> ok, let's try
[05:37] <conjo> hi guys i have a recurring pc freeze issue-am about to fresh install ubuntu, what can i do to eliminate the sdd as a source of problem, just ran sudo blkdiscard on /dev/sda am about to reboot and install any other suggestions?
[05:38] <conjo> ssd
[05:41] <conjo> plan moving forward is to install os update-if i find myself in the same pos in future(which i expect to) how should i go about finding the cause-dmesg | grep "error"?"other filters?"
[05:41] <conjo> or should i use journalctrl | grep
[05:42] <conjo> and i intend to test my memory with something gnu'y
[05:42] <conjo> (i mean ram)
[05:48] <conjo> fcgreg, hey bud any ideas on tackling my ssd preparation prior to reboot and install (pc freezing)? sorry to single you out but ur present and awake (me hopes lol)
[05:49] <conjo> javango, how goes with your photo challenge-are you winning/having any luck
[05:50] <javango> conjo, I'm reading about piwigo - one of the options from that article
[05:59] <conjo> hey dude bloody pc froze on me missed anything you may have wrote please repeat javango
[05:59] <javango> conjo, "I'm reading about piwigo - one of the options from that article"
[06:00] <javango> but now I'm looking to MediaGobling
[06:00] <javango> Do you want me tell you about result when I finish?
[06:01] <conjo> i was going to suggest that you quickly watch a vieo on utube about kde connect and if you likey then sudo apt upt update && sudo apt install kdeconnect
[06:02] <conjo> dont enter that
[06:02] <conjo> i will re write it/use the app store
[06:02] <conjo> sudo apt update && sudo apt install kdeconnect
[06:03] <conjo> then open the gui menu and run the program (make sure on same wifi)
[06:04] <javango> I have gnome
[06:04] <conjo> by the way those commands are to be run in the terminal (press ctrl+alt+T) which will open a black screen
[06:05] <conjo> doesnt matter still can use it
[06:08] <javango> ok, but i'll try those from the article first
[06:08] <javango> thank you, anyway
[06:08] <conjo> thats cool bro what ever is easiest and works
[06:08] <conjo> gl
[06:15] <conjo> back to my drama can anyone suggest lines of inquiry-re freezing pc desktop
[06:16] <conjo> journalctrl dmesg (suggested filters for grep please)
[06:19] <conjo> if noone is answering because im running parrot im waiting on the iso and will be installing ubuntu promptly
[06:19] <conjo> need to boot from live/other lappy for now cuz daily driver is retarded at present
[06:25] <conjo> hey javango check out GSconnect i think its exactly what you would want
[06:25] <conjo> its for gnome
[06:25] <conjo> no dependencies needed no headache
[06:33] <javango> conjo, alrighty
[06:46] <Hash> https://www.medievalands.com/ I've been trying to get this to run under wine but without any luck. I've got all the .net packages, wine, monodevelop. etc. etc.
[06:47] <Hash> Anyone have any idea?
[08:05] <unixbsd> apt-get, busybox, and more? this tool allows as 3rd party to install from source on bsd and linux many applis. ... it is way smaller than busybox for cmds: https://termbin.com/abdm       (source code in C)
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> unixbsd: not related to ubuntu support?
[08:11] <jpds> unixbsd: Please don't spam channels
[08:20] <unixbsd> jpds: thank you for the information, I wrote you in pm in any case. Feel free to discuss with me, thank you for your help in #ubuntu
[09:34] <frad> I upgraded to 20.04 with an external HDD plugged in. Name of the unit is 'A'. After the upgrade, eacht timeI plug in this HDD its directory name has been changed to 'A1'. How do I fixthis?
[09:42] <cariveri> Hi. I've got a weird uninstallable zoom application. How come?/what can I do? It keeps showing up by dash search and the application runs normally. I removed it with "apt remove" and is not listed anymore.
[09:42] <srged> How do I disable the "drag tab to open it as a new separate window" feature?
[09:46] <srged> How do I disable the "drag tab to open it as a new separate window" feature for Chrome?
[09:53] <tomreyn> cariveri: "zoom" is not part of ubuntu (there may be a snap, though). what you'Re describing sounds like you may have partially installed a third party apt package, maybe one which isn't compatible to your ubuntu version.
[09:54] <tomreyn> srged: i heard about this being possible with firefox via about:config, chromium has something similar, but i don't know how to do it there.
[09:55] <tomreyn> frad: if it's just a directory name, you can just rename it in Gnome Files (formerly known as Nautilus), the Ubuntu file browser.
[09:56] <tomreyn> but i suspect you may be referring to a file system or partition label rather.
[09:56] <tomreyn> you can rename those, too, but will probably need to use Gnome Disks for it or a temrinal.
[09:58] <frad> tomreyn, no, the partition label is still 'A', under thunar, but on the directory bar, it is 'A1'. Apparently it's a permissions problem: Failed to open a, permission denied
[10:01] <tomreyn> frad: thunar, so you are using xubuntu rather than ubuntu, i see. if you use user mounting via gio / udisks2 to mount it, you should be able to access the data. or you may need to modify the file system permissions to make them match your current user id (UID), if this somehow changed as a result of your upgrade.
[10:02] <tomreyn> i.e. using the chown command (which can break your entire system if you use it incorrectly)
[10:02] <tomreyn> i'm heading for breakfast now, back later
[10:10] <ypiel> @tomreyn I success to use remote desktop thanks a lot : vino server side +https://pgaskin.net/linux-tips/how-to-use-vino-vnc-server-with-more-viewers/ (i'm in personal local network) / remmina client side. I can see my 2 screen desktop on my only  1 screen client :)
[10:12] <cariveri> tomreyn: thanks. but /etc/apt$ grep -R zoom *  <== no results.
[10:31] <cariveri> tomreyn: I still cannot see where/how this zoom app is installed and how to uninstall it. its so weird. feels like a virus.
[10:33] <jpds> cariveri: Just run "ps auxf" - it'll show you the full path of the binary
[10:33] <EriC^> cariveri: how do you start the app?
[10:36] <panorain> Trash?
[10:36] <cariveri> EriC^: via dash. I search zoom which provides an icon to click on. its starts, looks like an windows 10 app, but conencting to a meeting did not work either. another version of the app was at least working there.
[10:37] <cariveri> jpds: zoom is not mentioned in the list. :s
[10:37] <jpds> cariveri: When it's running
[10:37] <cariveri> yes.
[10:38] <EriC^> cariveri: drag the icon from the dash to the desktop and look at its properties to see which command its using when launching
[10:41] <cariveri> EriC^^: dragging wont work unfortuantely. btw, its ubuntu 20 upgraded from 18.
[10:42] <cariveri> EriC^^: instead it starts the thing. also from favourites/launcher bar.
[10:54] <EriC^^> cariveri: do you see its icon in /usr/share/applications ?
[10:54] <EriC^^> or name
[10:57] <cariveri> no result on "ls /usr/share/applications | grep zoom"
[11:03] <mgedmin> what about /usr/local/share/applications?  and ~/.local/share/applications?
[11:03] <mgedmin> also maybe grep -i zoom for case insensitivity
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> its prob the zoom snap?
[11:06] <cariveri> mgedmin: no trace at all of zoom. nowhere. I also tried find / -type f -name "*zoom*" which brings up lots of zoom stuff, but its about magnifiers on apps.
[11:07] <mgedmin> that is also case-sensitive
[11:08] <mgedmin> you could pin it to the dock ("add to favourites") and then find out the name of the desktop file with gsettings get org.gnome.shell favorite-apps
[11:11] <cariveri> mgedmin: oh jesus yes. I think that it good. I think its this weirdo here: chrome-hmbjbjdpkobdjplfobhljndfdfdipjhg-Default.desktop
[11:12] <mgedmin> hahaaa it's a web app!
[11:13] <cariveri> yes. sneaky. it just removed a chromium zoom extension. .. now the zoom laucnher icon opens chrome instead.
[11:15] <cariveri> the file is still in ~/.local/share/applications/ and ~/.gnome/apps/
[11:19] <mgedmin> I'm sure chrome has some way of removing web apps
[11:19] <cariveri> I must admit, it was well done making a call to chromium without making it look like a browser app at all.
[11:20] <mgedmin> chrome://apps/
[11:20] <cariveri> already removed there. its jsut the launchers as left over.
[11:21] <mgedmin> oh, hmm, I expected chrome to clean the launchers too
[11:21] <cariveri> would have been nice yes.
[11:23] <cariveri> and the leading one was in ~/.local/share/applications/ its seems.
[11:23] <cariveri> gone.
[11:23] <cariveri> thanks you very much guys!
[11:27] <mgedmin> I don't even have a ~/.gnome here
[11:27] <mgedmin> sounds like something from gnome 2 ancient times, from before XDG desktop directories were invented
[11:28] <woenx> Hi.  I am having an issue with my trackpad on Ubuntu 20.04 lately. I have a bluetooth external trackpad (apple magic trackpad 1) which used to work more or less fine in ubuntu. For a few weeks, for some reason, the scrolling direction of the trackpad is reversed, and the tap to click feature is disabled. I can go to the trackpad settings, and they are correctly settings. I can disable and re-enable these settings and everything works fine, but only until
[11:28] <woenx> the next rebook. What could have happened?
[11:30] <mgedmin> woenx: I've seen other people mentining this bug too
[11:30] <woenx> oh, and it's a laptop, and the built-in trackpad works just fine (the scrolling direction is correct, and opposite to that of the external trackpad)
[11:31] <mgedmin>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1899509 maybe?
[11:31] <woenx> yes, the behavior I experienced seems to match this bug
[11:33] <woenx> There are a few duplicates, I don't know which one is the "master"
[11:33] <etronik> hi all, when did 20.04 came out ?
[11:34] <etronik> was that... April ?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> etronik: the .04 stands for april
[11:37] <etronik> lotuspsychje, really ? been using this stuff since version 7 or 8 and never really was aware or that... LOL !
[11:37] <mgedmin> YY.MM :D
[11:38] <etronik> duuuuh why you make me feel like Homer ? ;-)
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> !yy.mm
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> because we have a factoid :p
[11:39] <etronik> ok so time to investigate this and prep the dreaded upgrade from 18.04...
[11:39] <TJ-> BUT... 20.04.1 doesn't mean another release in January!!
[11:39] <TJ-> (just to confuse you!)
[11:39] <etronik> yeah yeah that much I did gather :-)
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:00] <billybigrigger> hey all
[14:00] <billybigrigger> my wired ethernet connection has broke on my last reboot, how do i troubleshoot this?
[14:01] <billybigrigger> i'm not familiar with how networking has changed with netplan/networkmanager/systemd, and don't know where to start troubleshooting
[14:01] <billybigrigger> ubuntu wiki says, it should just work :S
[14:04] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger, https://www.configserverfirewall.com/ubuntu-linux/ubuntu-network-manager/
[14:09] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj cool thanks
[14:09] <billybigrigger> why isn't this in official docs?
[14:09] <rapidwave> I'm trying to remove and reinstall LXQT, but I cannot seem to find the desktop package, just a bunch of related packages
[14:12] <giaco> when I plug my monitor all windows from all workspaces on primary monitor are moved to single workspace on secondary monitor (that is NOT set as main monitor). This is super annoying
[14:13] <billybigrigger> BluesKaj how to i find out if ens18 is set to dhcp or static with networkmanager?
[14:13] <billybigrigger> i still can't get ens18 to give me an ip
[14:16] <tomreyn> billybigrigger: is this ubuntu desktop or server? and which ubuntu version?
[14:16] <vimart> Few days ago I've upgrade my 20.04 and Firefox frequently is slowing that I've an info: A web page is slowing down your browser. What would you like to do? Stop it / kill it ? Have you notice it as well?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> dhcp is usually default , run ip ad in the terminal
[14:16] <BluesKaj> billybigrigger,^
[14:17] <billybigrigger> 20.04 lts desktop
[14:17] <vimart> BTW Firefox was upgraded as well
[14:17] <mgedmin> billybigrigger: gnome-control-center (aka System Preferences) -> Network -> Wired
[14:18] <billybigrigger> mgedmin ya it just sits on connecting
[14:18] <billybigrigger> until i get an error it can't connect
[14:18] <billybigrigger> Activation of network connection failed
[14:18] <tomreyn> you can check there how it's configured, though.
[14:19] <tomreyn> and optionally remove the profile and create a new one.
[14:19] <mgedmin> sounds like it's asking for a DHCP lease, but your DHCP server doesn't give it one
[14:19] <billybigrigger> i've tried dhcp and manual settings
[14:19] <billybigrigger> nothing works
[14:20] <mgedmin> is the cable plugged all the way in?  can other devices get a DHCP lease on the same network?
[14:20] <tomreyn> check logs
[14:20] <devilnull> props
[14:20] <mgedmin> does tcpdump -i ens18 show anything interesting?  is the firewall blocking the udp ports used for DHCP?
[14:20] <mgedmin> any network-related errors from the ethernet driver in journalctl?
[14:20] <devilnull> hola tomreyn
[14:21] <tomreyn> hi
[14:22] <tomreyn> rapidwave: more details, such as which ubuntu version and variant you'Re running, may be useful.
[14:24] <rapidwave> Ubuntu focal
[14:24] <rapidwave> Ubuntu Studio to be specific
[14:28] <tomreyn> rapidwave: Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS uses the Xfce Desktop Environment
[14:28] <rapidwave> I have lxqt installed
[14:30] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lxqt lists the packages that are direct dependencie of the lxqt metapackage
[14:31] <rapidwave> I'm trying to identify the top package to remove and install
[14:31] <tomreyn> there is also https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-qt-desktop in case you have this
[14:31] <tomreyn> and lxqt-core for the main lxqt package
[14:32] <tomreyn> "apt-rdepends lxqt" would list all dependencies, recursively.
[14:35] <rapidwave> I tried to remove and install lxqt-core....said package doesn't exist
[14:36] <devilnull> vimart, what happened sorry?
[14:38] <tomreyn> rapidwave: it is a meta package https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lxqt-core
[14:38] <tomreyn> i think you can work it out, if you try a bit harder.
[14:43] <lnxslck> is there an official Ubuntu version with snapd disabled by default?
[14:44] <jpds> lnxslck: Yes, it's called Debian
[14:45] <jpds> Otherwise no, most of Ubuntu ships with snaps by default
[14:53] <lnxslck> jpds: thanks. Debian is the one I already use
[14:58] <Maik> Debian isn't a ubuntu version, it's a distribution on it's own. Older than ubuntu and Ubuntu is based on that.
[14:59] <devilnull> rolf "yes its called debian"
[15:00] <jpds> Maik: As someone that's contributed for years to both: I know
[15:00] <Maik> good to know
[15:01] <Maik> lnxslck: you can go the Mint route if you want, still have ubuntu as a base but no snap. Or... you install Ubuntu and remove all the snap related stuff.
[15:01] <devilnull> fyi delayed as fk reaction not laughing at either of ya
[15:01] <Maik> :)
[15:05] <gordonjcp> lnxslck: why disable snapd?
[15:09] <qwertuttyty> grub can be installed on HDD if the entire disk is logical?
[15:10] <qwertuttyty> grub can be installed on HDD if the entire HDD is logical?
[15:10] <mgedmin> define "logical"?
[15:20] <devilnull> extended=16 partitions max vs logical=4partitions max
[15:21] <mgedmin> I think you mean primary
[15:22] <devilnull> lol i do
[15:22] <qwertuttyty> The question is not clear. Explain. I see here that cannot be install. https://askubuntu.com/questions/459620/unable-to-install-grub-in-dev-sda-when-installing-grub
[15:23] <mgedmin> that's a question from 2014?
[15:23] <qwertuttyty> read 20.04
[15:24] <mgedmin> yeah, it's plausible that grub needs /boot to be a primary partition
[15:29] <mgedmin> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#BIOS-installation
[15:30] <mgedmin> that page doesn't say anything
[15:30] <qwertuttyty> if sda primary, legasy bios. /boot logical sdb6 i can install grub to sda?
[15:32] <mgedmin> I don't know
[15:33] <mgedmin> I can't find an authoritative source on boot partition requirements
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: to the rescue^^
[15:34] <qwertuttyty> Okay, I'll check in the virtual machine.
[15:34] <mgedmin> (also, it's not a good idea to ask a question inside an askubuntu "answer" to a different question from 2014)
[15:35] <Bustin> on the latest 20.10, fresh install, having EXTREME interface lag using my external monitors and laptop. The LTS worked fine, upgrading/installing latest does not. What has changed to make so much lag? It's unusable (nvidia rtx 2070), using 32" 2K monitor, and a 15" laptop.
[15:35] <mgedmin> hmm https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html says it's not necessary for /boot to be a primary partition?
[15:35] <mgedmin> haha lilo just how old is that document?
[15:36] <devilnull> hola lotuspsychje
[15:36] <mgedmin> 26 Dec 2005
[15:36] <devilnull> rolf
[15:37] <qwertuttyty> "1I don't have a Lenovo Yoga but I had the same issue on my desktop. It has SSD and HDD drivers, it was listed like this:
[15:37] <qwertuttyty> SATA#1 HDD /dev/sda SATA#2 SSD /dev/sdb As always I'm trying to install the OS on my SSD. The installer is installing Ubuntu (or Linux Mint) on /dev/sdb but then is trying to install GRUB on /dev/sda. That is a problem.
[15:37] <qwertuttyty> The solution was to swap the SATA connections, like this:
[15:37] <qwertuttyty> SATA#1 SSD /dev/sda SATA#2 HDD /dev/sdb share  improve this answer  follow answered Jun 24 '18 at 16:49megas2,14766 gold badges2525 silver badges3333 bronze badgesadd a comment1I got the same error while installing Ubuntu 20.04. Turned out that I had created "logical" instead of "primary" partitions during the installation process for both my EFI and root partition. I ran the installation again, this time configuring both part
[15:37] <qwertuttyty> s as a "primary" partition, and the error was gone this time." very similar to mine. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#BIOS-installation
[15:37] <mgedmin> Bustin: I've the impression nvidia hasn't updated their proprietary drivers to work with the new kernel in ubuntu 20.10 yet?
[15:38] <qwertuttyty> I wrote read
[15:38] <mgedmin> please don't copy-paste novels directly into irc thank you
[15:39] <Bustin> mgedmin: That would make sense, what can be done, if I'm at this state on a fresh install, that's pretty much unusable? Uninstall the current nvidia driver, roll back to prior release? Doesn't that require downgrading kernal to do?
[15:40] <mgedmin> Bustin: I don't know what to tell you; I avoid nvidia graphics because I hate this kind of problem
[15:40] <mgedmin> things should get better with time
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Bustin: what gives nvidia-smi ?
[15:41] <Bustin> 455.28  cuda 11.1
[15:41] <Bustin> lotuspsychje
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Bustin: did you try a switch the one version lower yet as a test?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Bustin: ubuntu-drivers list to see whats available
[15:44] <Bustin> ok, will brb, need to restart.
[15:48] <regedit> hello, is there a way to automatically detect an already existing machine, to detect what OS / web stack / packages it needs and generate a shell script or config file to be able to spin up a similar instance?
[15:49] <jpmh> my firewall rules allow only 80,443 and 22 - what am I able to ping the server?
[15:49] <jpds> regedit: No, use proper automation like Ansible
[15:49] <jpds> jpmh: ufw?
[15:50] <jpmh> jpds yes
[15:50] <regedit> jpds: looking that up... does this Ansible have some facility to detect/read a current existing server so it can replicate its setup?
[15:50] <jpds> regedit: No, you have to craft your own playbooks
[15:51] <regedit> i see
[15:51] <jpds> jpmh: That allows ICMP regardless of what you configure
[15:51] <jpmh> jpds: why?
[15:52] <jpds> jpmh: It's generally considered a Bad Idea to block ICMP unless you really know what you're doing
[15:52] <regedit> aren't there _any_ technologies like this? to detect a current/existing setup and generate some sort of shell or config script to be able to easily duplicate such a setup? i can't help think this should exist... but on rare occasions i've been wrong in life
[15:52] <jpmh> jpds: while I am not concerned too much about ping, why?
[15:52] <jpds> regedit: I guess there's things like clonzailla
[15:53] <jpds> jpmh: Because a lot of internal networking, etc, uses it for signalling
[15:53] <spiri> i disabled gdm and now i am not able anymore to enable it
[15:53] <spiri> an [Install] section is missing
[15:53] <jpmh> jpds: TY
[15:56] <mgedmin> jpmh: read about how Path MTU discovery uses ICMP to see just one reason why blocking ICMP by default would be a Bad Idea
[15:56] <spiri> i intuitivly added [Install] WantedBy=graphical.target and now it's working on reboot
[15:56] <spiri> don't know why this is missing
[15:56] <jpmh> mgedmin: reading now - ty
[15:57] <jpds> regedit: But, generally best practice is to use technologies like Puppet, Ansible, Chef if you are managing fleets of machines
[15:57] <jpmh> I guess really my concern is not that it is enavled but that ufw does not tell me that it is leaving it enabled
[15:57] <mgedmin> spiri: there's some fancy scriptwork to make debian's update-alternatives able to choose which display manager you want (gdm, lightdm, kdm, something else)
[15:57] <mgedmin> I don't remember exactly how it works
[16:00] <jpds> jpmh: ufw is quite basic in terms of a firewall
[16:00] <mgedmin> /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is part of it
[16:00] <jpds> ...frontend
[16:01] <jpmh> jpds: indeed - realistically I have never worried too much since I do make sure I have nothing open anyway and my web servers are "web servers" etc
[16:01] <spiri> mgedmin, all i did was disabling+stopping gdm
[16:01] <jpmh> jpds: I hope these are not words I regret some da, :)
[16:03] <jpds> jpmh: I recommend learning nftables
[16:03] <spiri> mgedmin, i don't have such a service
[16:03] <Bustin> Hmm, made some progress. Graphics are no longer "choppy" and producing interface lag, UNLESS I disable the laptop screen (which is what I need to do, since I use it closed). What would cause this?
[16:03] <ledeni> Bustin:'nvidia-settings' https://ibb.co/KLSxjbp check boxes for force composition pipeline & full force composition pipeline --Xserver Display configuration
[16:03] <Bustin> everything is very smooth if I keep it enabled, on both external monitors.
[16:09] <Bustin> ledeni: did not work. The only way the desktop is "lag" free, with proper acceleration is if I keep the laptop's screen enabled.
[16:12] <Bustin> ledeni: https://imgur.com/dMrz6iH
[16:13] <regedit> so i'm getting the impression that there's plenty of technology to deploy and manage sew servers based off of a prepared image/configuration, but as for creating such an image/configuration that part is usually sysadmin-ed manually? was hoping to find something to help detect & generate such a configuration without having to sysadmin it manually
[16:15] <devilnull> time to write a program and give it back to gnu
[16:16] <regedit> who me? :D who knows...
[16:17] <devilnull> yeah foss life yei yei!
[16:17] <jpds> regedit: We don't have skynet, no
[16:17] <regedit> i'm disappointed
[16:17] <devilnull> i have matrix
[16:17] <devilnull> but no ups and the powers down
[16:19] <regedit> lol
[16:20] <regedit> anyway thanks for all the info jpds 👍
[16:20] <jpds> Lots of tools out there, no perfect solution
[16:24] <ice9> when I try to run "openvpn --config ./server.conf" on the server, it does nothing and just return the prompt; any idea?
[16:26] <jpds> ice9: you probably set it to daemonize
[16:27] <ice9> jpds, no, and no background services running
[16:28] <ice9> it doesn't throw any error too
[16:29] <tacomaster> I am not sure what is going on here but during the install of ubuntu I got an error saying it failed but when restarting the computer it comes up to ubuntu. When trying to do an update of all of the software it fails saying "Waiting for cache lock: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 6158 (unattended-upgr)"
[16:29] <jpds> ice9: Did you give up on wireguard and are now trying ovpn?
[16:30] <ice9> jpds, not totally gave up but trying something else until I figure out whats wrong with WG, btw openvpn is censored here but I can use stunnel; while it's not possible to obfuscate WG
[16:31] <mgedmin> tacomaster: give it a few minutes, apt is checking for updates in the background
[16:31] <tacomaster> mgedmin Its been this way for over an hour
[16:31] <mgedmin> is your internet slow?
[16:32] <tacomaster> mgedmin 400Mbps down and 20 Mbps up
[16:32] <mgedmin> nice
[16:33] <mgedmin> so, things to check: is the unattended-upgrades process still running?
[16:33] <tacomaster> mgedmin Nvm I figured it out it seems. I just deleted 3 files that it kept complaining about and it allows me to run the apt upgrade
[16:33] <mgedmin> look at what subprocesses it has spawned (e.g. via pstree -a)
[16:33] <mgedmin> deleting lock files is usually a Bad Idea
[16:34] <mgedmin> but your system, you have the freedom to break it any way you want to
[16:34] <ice9> how can I make openvpn systemd service pickup the conf file in /etc/openvpn/server when starting it ??
[16:34] <mgedmin> ice9: the default server config file is /etc/openvpn/server.conf
[16:35] <mgedmin> all you need to do is systemctl enable openvpn@server
[16:35] <tacomaster> mgedmin I am pretty sure that the install failure was on apt install's during the os install. It might have left the files there because apt did not complete successfully
[16:36] <ice9> mgedmin, i moved the file to /etc/openvpn/server.conf but it didn't pick it up too
[16:41]  * devilnull loves tacomaster name 
[16:59] <qwertuttyty> legasy bios. no matter sda primary or logical is the same.
[17:47] <pizzaburger> Hi all! Does the information provided on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity and https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 still stand? Topic is Ubuntu Security.
[17:50] <mgedmin> BasicSecurity was last updated in 2012
[17:50] <pizzaburger> Figured by that AdBlock Plus recommendation
[17:50] <mgedmin> IIRC AdBlockPlus was sold to an advertiser?  everyone uses uBlock Origin now
[17:51] <pizzaburger> Yeah. Anyways, are there any other resources you could recommend for Ubuntu Security, like tips, concepts, methods, hardening?
[17:52] <jpds> pizzaburger: That depends entirely on what your threat model is
[17:54] <pizzaburger> jpds: Completely understand. Not asking for a cure-all pill, just material worth reading and up-to-date. That BasicSecurity wiki is pretty nice since it's noob-friendly and explains the concepts well.
[17:56] <Bustin> well, to whoever else is having issues with Nvidia & external monitors via a laptop, disabling "allow flipping" via nvidia settings eliminates all the issues I was having
[17:56] <Bustin> no more interface lag, everything smooth as butter again
[18:07] <rapidwave>  /join #web
[18:39] <nrb> hey, when can i expect a new version of ubuntu to come out with the upcoming 5.10 LTS kernel
[18:41] <jpds> nrb: Next release is in April, I believe, don't know when the LTS HWE kernel updates
[18:42] <Toadisattva> oh yeah groovy gorilla dropped
[18:42] <Toadisattva> gonna have to throw it on a box and give it a go
[18:42] <nrb> okay, thanks jpds
[19:09] <etronik> any known issues upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 that I should be aware of ?
[19:15] <_Sym_> I'm looking at this support page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) and I'm wondering what the diff is b/n "End of standard support" and "End of Life"
[19:17] <_Sym_> what is "standard support"
[19:18] <ogra> _Sym_, LTS reeases get 5 years of support ... after this you can buy commercial support for another 5y ... then the release goes end of life
[19:19] <gordonjcp> _Sym_: standard support is what you get without paying
[19:19] <gordonjcp> ^ yeah, that
[19:19] <ogra> the first 5y are the standard support
[19:19] <gordonjcp> if you're still running a 10-year-old OS in production, you have bigger problems
[19:19] <ogra> (though extended support is free for 1 machine for personal use i heard)
[19:19] <gordonjcp> (we're running Windows XP and Windows 2000 on critical boxes at work, because vendors suck)
[19:20] <ogra> ah, it is actually 3 machines ... https://ubuntu.com/security/esm
[19:21] <_Sym_> i see, thanks
[19:21] <_Sym_> Do users still get package updates until "End of Life" w/o paying for support?
[19:22] <ogra> if you register for ubuntu advantage, yes
[19:23] <ogra> read the page above, it has all info
[19:23] <_Sym_> ok thanks
[19:28] <amsel> HI, my keyboard backlight is not working and I tried to fix it myself but I can't.
[19:28] <amsel> It works with windows and this is my hardware: https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=842527b430
[19:34] <amsel> It starts working after resuming from standby. But then I cannot switch it off.
[19:43] <tomreyn> amsel: i'm not sure whether this covers the very functionality you're looking for, but it lists your keyboard as supported: https://github.com/wroberts/rogauracore
[19:44] <tomreyn> 0b05:1866 is what you have
[19:45] <tomreyn> also bug 1802652
[19:48] <amsel> Tomreyn & ubottu thank you :)
[19:50] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[19:53] <mN-> does nordvpn work good with ubuntu? anyone got experience?
[19:53] <regedit> ask pwediepie
[19:53] <Hash> Hello there
[19:54] <Hash> I did nmap of my network in my apartment building
[19:54] <Hash> I see a printer on the network, and I could go to the ip address of it and see a page
[19:54] <Hash> I called the apt manager and she said I can use the printer
[19:54] <Hash> I would now like to send a print job from google chrome browser in ubuntu 18.04 to this printer
[19:54] <Hash> What must I have to do?
[19:54] <Hash> Please advise me
[19:55] <tomreyn> mN-: there are occasionally people here who are apparently using it, and for some it seems to work. but this software isn't part of ubuntu and thus not supported here.
[19:55] <mN-> tomreyn ah okay
[19:55] <Hash> I don't see this printer listed in google chrome
[19:55] <Hash> I'm not sure how to do printing in linux/ubuntu etc.
[19:56] <Hash> It's over the network and not usb connected
[19:56] <Hash> So it's confusing
[19:56] <mN-> Hash press control p
[19:56] <Hash> Where?
[19:56] <mN-> ctrl + p
[19:56] <mN-> in your browser
[19:56] <Hash> Where shall I press this?
[19:56] <mN-> where you try to print
[19:57] <Hash> I do. The printer is network based and is not listed in the lsit of pinters
[19:57] <Hash> The only option I have is for SAVE TO PDF
[19:57] <Hash> It says another option
[19:57] <Hash> Print using systme dialog... (ctrl shift p)
[19:57] <tomreyn> Hash: do you mean chrome or chromium? how did you install it?
[19:57] <Hash> That opens a KDE box
[19:57] <Hash> It lists Print to File and Brother MFC but that's probably an old printer or is it network I dunno
[19:58] <tomreyn> when you say "I called the apt manager and she said I can use the printer", what do you mean by "apt manager"?
[19:58] <mN-> probably apartment
[19:58] <Hash> Yes, unable to locate printer, that brother MFC is not this one.
[19:58] <Hash> One second.
[19:58] <tomreyn> oh, apartment, hah
[19:58] <mN-> :P
[19:59] <Hash> I forgot to save my nmap scan list
[19:59] <Hash> I lost the ip. will have to scan again, one sec
[19:59] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version and variant are oyu using there? you mentioned kde?
[20:00] <tomreyn> oh you said ubuntu 18.04, but probably kubuntu then?
[20:00] <Hash> I use Kubuntu 18.04 but only becuase it has KDE and not gnome, but I use Xmonad and not Ubuntu's UI or Kubuntu's UI
[20:00] <Hash> But I know the tools and cli enough over 20+ years of linux
[20:00] <tomreyn> does http://localhost:631/printers/ list the printer?
[20:00] <Hash> Just taking it's time to do a scan, I lost the printer ip
[20:01] <Hash> sec
[20:01] <Hash> Brother_MFC_L2710DW_seriesBrother_MFC_L2710DW_seriesMFC-L2710DW seriesProcessing - "Unable to locate printer "BRW105BAD4AACFF.local"."
[20:01] <Hash> This is an old printer.
[20:01] <Hash> I need to somehow install the printer for this OS that will go over the network
[20:01] <Hash> is there a printer install software in ubuntu that can scan the network and find a network printer?
[20:01] <tomreyn> that doesn'T answer my question, though
[20:02] <Hash> I copy pasted it from that page, so I assumed you'd recognize the copy paste format of that page
[20:02] <Hash> The cups printer list page
[20:03] <tomreyn> yes, you told us that there is an error message / warning about some old printer. the question i asked is whether the printer you want to setup, which you told us is different from the brother MFC-L2710DW, is listed there.
[20:04] <tomreyn> if you'Re saxying you copied the full output of detected printers, then i assume it is not listed?
[20:05] <Hash> It is not listed
[20:06] <Hash> The reason it isn't listed is because a printer I think has to be added/installed, even if networked
[20:06] <Hash> The only wifi printer was that brother one from 2 years ago, which still shows up.
[20:06] <Hash> I need to learn how to install a printer over the network in ubuntu
[20:06] <tomreyn> at http://localhost:631/admin/ you can "add printer"
[20:07] <tomreyn> which model is this printer you intend to add?
[20:08] <Hash> I found the point of access finally
[20:08] <Hash> It's in systemsettings5
[20:08] <Hash> Printers section
[20:08] <Hash> Add printer'
[20:09] <Hash> It says "discovered network printers"
[20:09] <Hash> a brother mfc is again listed but i think a diff model
[20:09] <Hash> next screen says, "pick a driver"
[20:09] <Hash> MFC_L2710DW I need to see that in the list of drivers
[20:09] <tomreyn> yes, you cando it there, too, personally i'D prefer the cups werb interface i pointed you to, due to better user feedback.
[20:10] <Hash> I tried it but i did not see anything listed
[20:10] <Hash> add printer or search for printers etc
[20:10] <Hash> Thi sis the only thing that will show me a discovered network printer
[20:10] <Hash> Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page. If you are using Kerberos authentication, make sure you have a valid Kerberos ticket.
[20:10] <Hash> Add printer brings me to this messag eon a page
[20:11] <Hash> Thi sis the only thing that will show me a discovered network printerNo printers found.
[20:11] <Hash> oops
[20:11] <Hash> No printers found.
[20:11] <Hash> that's what find new printers button says
[20:12] <tomreyn> so none were found by cups in its current configuration, on the networks your system is currently connected to.
[20:12] <Hash> This printer is not listed in the drivers list
[20:12] <Hash> Not sure how to install
[20:12] <Hash> IT says you can also give a manual ppd file but I dunno what this is
[20:12] <Hash> KDE config found a printer on network
[20:12] <tomreyn> do you know the printer model, yet?
[20:12] <Hash> let me walk to the office brb
[20:14] <Hash> I made a mistake erlier.
[20:14] <Hash> Brother_MFC_L2710DW_seriesBrother_MFC_L2710DW_seriesMFC-L2710DW This is the actual model that's in the office
[20:14] <Hash> It was first shown on the /printers/ page you linked, and now it no longer shows there
[20:14] <Hash> but this model shows as detected by the systemsettings5 in KDE, but then it doesn't list a driver for this printer
[20:15] <Hash> That model isn't listed in the MFC's in that list
[20:15] <Hash> It starts with MFC 7150 in the list
[20:16] <Hash> and I go through the list and I dont' see this listed in the drivers bit
[20:16] <Hash> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfcl2710dw_us_eu_as&os=128
[20:16] <tomreyn> do you have the openprinting-ppds package installed?
[20:16] <Hash> Linux printer driver (deb package)
[20:17] <Hash> Should I get this?
[20:17] <Hash> let me see
[20:17] <Hash> openprinting-ppds is already the newest version (20180306-1).
[20:18] <Hash> Unpacking mfcl2710dwpdrv:i386 (4.0.0-1) ...
[20:18] <Hash> let me seelpadmin -p MFCL2710DW -E -v dnssd://Brother%20MFC-L2710DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-3c2af4a9325d -P /usr/share/ppd/brother/brother-MFCL2710DW-cups-en.ppd
[20:18] <Hash> looks like 100%
[20:18] <Hash> Let's see what happens now in driver slist maybe?
[20:19] <Hash> Ok WTF is happening
[20:19] <Hash> I close the program, I open systemsettings again, and the printers show sup as already installed?
[20:19] <mgedmin> that's nice
[20:19] <Hash> You can find the shared image at: https://i.imgur.com/lhEMAiy.png
[20:20] <Hash> Now it's listedn on cups page too on localhost
[20:21] <Hash> Ok now it shows up in chrome
[20:22] <Hash> google chrome, not chromium I should specify
[20:22] <Hash> I instaled from google .deb file and then it installed their repo so update through apt normally
[20:22] <Hash> I sent print job but it says unable to locate printer
[20:23] <Hash> Processing - "Unable to locate printer."
[20:27] <Hash> Unable to locate printer :(
[20:30] <mN-> hash https://www.seas.harvard.edu/office-computing/printing/adding-printer-ubuntu
[20:41] <tomreyn> Hash: so the printer you configured, according to the screenshot, has no location configured. it won't work without a correct location set
[20:42] <tomreyn> dnssd://Brother%20MFC-L2710DW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-3c2af4a9325d is a location that would probably work
[20:44] <tomreyn> you could also use socket://1.2.3.4 or ipp://1.2.3.4:631/ipp/print  if the printer has a static ip address of 1.2.3.4
[21:04] <zero4> Hello. How can I debug ufw "could not load logging rules" after making a change to after.rules?
[21:21] <Mr_x> hi anyone stil around
[21:22] <Mr_x> can i know what mean this if we run on ubuntu terminal ---->> sha256 myfile-1.8.4.tar.gz  ?
[21:23] <Mr_x> this is for check sha256 sum of file?
[21:23] <gordonjcp> Mr_x: what do you think it would do?
[21:24] <gordonjcp> Mr_x: in general you can break stuff down by reading the man pages
[21:24] <gordonjcp> Mr_x: so yes, that'll calculate the sha256 sum of that file
[21:24] <gordonjcp> Mr_x: if you say "man sha256" it'll tell you all about that command
[21:24] <tomreyn> it's actually "sha256sum", though
[21:25] <Mr_x> ok the problem is when i run that command its say : Command 'sha256' not found, but can be installed with:
[21:25] <Mr_x> sudo apt install hashalot
[21:25] <Mr_x> so install hashalot
[21:25] <Mr_x> so i install hashalot
[21:26] <Mr_x> but when i run this command again ----->> sha256 myfile-1.8.4.tar.gz
[21:26] <Mr_x> now its say this ---->> " Enter passphrase: "
[21:26] <tomreyn> just use "shasum" instead
[21:26] <tomreyn> just use "sha256sum" instead
[21:26] <tomreyn> the latter
[21:27] <Mr_x> tomreyn, i already use that comman
[21:27] <Mr_x> tomreyn, i already use that command
[21:27] <Mr_x> so what shloud i do?
[21:27] <Mr_x> should*
[21:27] <tomreyn> what is it that you're trying to do? get the SHA-256 checksum of a file?
[21:27] <Mr_x> yes
[21:28] <tomreyn> so you ran    sha256sum myfile-1.8.4.tar.gz    and the result was?
[21:28] <Mr_x> now i stuck on this ----->> Enter passphrase:
[21:28] <tomreyn> press ctrl-c
[21:28] <Mr_x> ctrl-c nothing happen
[21:28] <tomreyn> enter?
[21:28] <Mr_x> just enter?
[21:28] <Mr_x> not yet
[21:29] <Mr_x> that will be fine if i run "enter" ?
[21:29] <tomreyn> i don't know exactly how hashalot works, but i don't see it doing something wrong
[21:30] <tomreyn> ...when you just press enter there
[21:30] <Mr_x> let me try
[21:30] <Mr_x> im just need correct way to exit from that
[21:30] <Mr_x> lol
[21:30] <Mr_x> :D
[21:31] <tomreyn> you can always background and kill it
[21:32] <tomreyn> ctr-z, then    kill PID     the PID it printed, then    fg
[21:33] <Mr_x> lol
[21:33] <Mr_x> ctrl- z nothing happen
[21:34] <Mr_x> so i need open new terminal and kill pid?
[21:34] <Mr_x> :D
[21:34] <Mr_x> that correct?
[21:34] <tomreyn> it's probably reading directly from the keyboard then, makes sense for this type of software
[21:34] <tomreyn> yes, you can look up the pid in a separate temrinal window and kill it
[21:35] <tomreyn> pgrep sha256
[21:44] <Mr_x> Enter passphrase: Killed
[21:44] <Mr_x> :D
[21:44] <Mr_x> done
[21:45] <Mr_x> i open new terminal and kill that pid
[21:47] <tomreyn> so you can now purge hashalot and use the proper tool again, sha256sum
[21:49] <tomreyn> openssl sha256 myfile-1.8.4.tar.gz       is yet another option, but     sha256sum myfile-1.8.4.tar.gz     is the easiest, really.
[21:51] <dbugger> Hi everony
[21:52] <dbugger> *everyone
[21:52] <catman370> sup
[21:52] <dbugger> Does anyone know why could it be that when I am trying to pair my mouse or keyboard through my blueetooth dongle, the request always fails? I am without answer after days of searching the internets
[21:52] <dbugger> I tried it with "bluetoothctl", but to no avail
[21:53] <tomreyn> you ubuntu version, kernel version?
[21:53] <tomreyn> *youR
[21:54] <dbugger> Yes, sorry, here it is:
[21:57] <dbugger> Ubuntu 20.04 x86_64
[21:57] <dbugger> Kernel: 5.4.0-52-generic
[21:57] <Mr_x> tomreyn, how to purge hashlot
[21:59] <jeremy31> dbugger: URL from terminal for>  (lsusb; dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:00] <rgov_> Has anyone installed the 64-bit Ubuntu Server release for Raspberry Pi 4 lately? I filed a bug a while ago that 18.04.5 wouldn't boot, and recently I tried another RPi4, on a different SD card, using the RPi official download+flash utility, and Ubuntu Server 20.04.1, and it still doesn't boot. I filed a bug but it has received no attention, though
[22:00] <rgov_> I'm not sure which component to file against.
[22:00] <tomreyn> Mr_x: sudo apt purge hashlot
[22:00] <dbugger> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/9azx
[22:01] <tomreyn> jeremy31: ^ ;)
[22:01] <tomreyn> missing firmware file, i guess
[22:01] <dbugger> opps
[22:01] <dbugger> jeremy31, https://termbin.com/9azx
[22:01] <dbugger> tomreyn, thanks ;D
[22:02] <Mr_x> tomreyn,
[22:02] <jeremy31> dbugger: A USB dongle?  GBU521?
[22:02] <Mr_x> Reading package lists... Done
[22:02] <Mr_x> Building dependency tree
[22:02] <Mr_x> Reading state information... Done
[22:02] <Mr_x> E: Unable to locate package hashlot
[22:02] <tomreyn> !paste | Mr_x
[22:02] <dbugger> jeremy31, Yes, it is a dongle. This one: shorturl.at/iCFUX
[22:02] <Mr_x> ohh sorry
[22:03] <dbugger> no idea what GBU521 is
[22:03] <tomreyn> Mr_x: i had a typo in the command, i think you can find it and fix it by looking at the command and not just blindly copying and pasting
[22:03] <jeremy31> dbugger: in terminal>  cd /lib/firmware/brcm && sudo wget https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/raw/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd
[22:04] <Mr_x> lol
[22:04] <Mr_x> should "hashalot"
[22:04] <dbugger> jeremy31, done. (What have i done? :P)
[22:04] <jeremy31> dbugger: then remove and reinsert the dongle.  Just installed firmware that was missing
[22:04] <Mr_x> sorry tomreyn i think i really urgent
[22:04] <Mr_x> :D
[22:04] <dbugger> ok, lets see..
[22:05] <tomreyn> Mr_x: you "think [you] really urgent"?
[22:05] <jeremy31> dbugger: I have the GBU521 dongle, it shows the same ID in lsusb and I have been able to use it without the firmware but it might help
[22:07] <dbugger> jeremy31, wow, now bluetoothctl gives a lot more output
[22:08] <Mr_x> tomreyn, I mean .. I'm too rushed and excited
[22:08] <tomreyn> Mr_x: oh, ok. :)
[22:09] <tomreyn> it was really my mistake, but don't expect anyone here to be perfect, and when things don'T work as expected, see whether there is an obvious mistake. ;-)
[22:10] <superkuh> Once I have more than 5000 files in a directory Caja (MATE fork of nautilus) stops automatically updating the directory. I have to manually refresh it. Does anyone know how to change this 5k file limit on Caja/Nautilus file manager?
[22:11] <dbugger> jeremy31, mouse seems to work! Now lets see the keyboard...
[22:14] <tomreyn> superkuh: are you sure you really, really, should have 5k files ina single directory in the first place?
[22:14] <tomreyn> *you should
[22:14] <superkuh> Yes.
[22:14] <tomreyn> then i'd suggest using CLI to operate on them
[22:14] <superkuh> Okay, thanks for the opinion.
[22:15] <tomreyn> i mean, the shell
[22:15] <tomreyn> i bet the limit is hardcoded
[22:15] <dbugger> jeremy31, it works! But I had to use the numbers for the pairing in the left side, not the ones in the numpad
[22:15] <dbugger> Thanks for the help!
[22:15] <superkuh> Learning that it is hardcoded, or not, is indeed what I'm trying to find out.
[22:16] <superkuh> I guess I should just go look at source.
[22:17] <dbugger> jeremy31, weird thing though... the dialogue menu for the pairing code only appears, if I disable and re-enable bluetooth. If I try it a second time, it will not come up :/
[22:23] <jeremy31> dbugger: It doesn't pair on its own again?
[22:23] <jeremy31> or connect?
[22:23] <dbugger> jeremy31, it is weird. I turn it off and on, and it asks for the pairing PIN. If I were to fail, and try it again, he wouldnt be even asking for a new PIN. It would just give a failing message
[22:24] <dbugger> I would need to power off and on bluetooth, to make it work
[22:24] <jeremy31> dbugger: I haven't done much with BT keyboards
[22:25] <dbugger> jeremy31, anyway, now it works. Thanks for the tip. I have written it down, in case I would ever need it again (which I am sure I will)
[22:25] <jeremy31> dbugger: It will only be needed when you upgrade Ubuntu version.  And it might need to be a fresh install
[22:26] <dbugger> jeremy31, yeah, I am sure that will eventually happen, so I will keep that link close by ;)
[22:58] <noisemaker> Is a default ubuntu installation with LUKS with passphrase be able to be changed to use a key file instead ?
[23:11] <jpds> noisemaker: Yes, LUKS supports keyslots
[23:12] <jpds> You have to place a new key into a slot and then change crypttab accordingly
[23:14] <noisemaker> jpds: but that key need to be out of the encrypted volume right ?
[23:18] <jpds> noisemaker: that you need to sort out yourself
[23:19] <jpds> The encrypted volume is not set in stone
[23:19] <jpds> I regularly configure systems to do all kinds of funky unlocking with https://github.com/latchset/clevis for example
[23:22] <Hash> Oh ok. Friend came over and I had to go to dinner, I am back now to figure out the printer.
[23:22] <Hash> Let me follow your direction on location and i'll get back to ou
[23:28] <goddard> I have two nvme drivers and windows doesn't show up in grub
[23:34] <bdonnahue2> hey all, i am struggling with dnsmasq. I have it installed, and it is resolving dns for the localhost
[23:34] <bdonnahue2> but the clients on the eth0 are not getting requests answered
[23:35] <bdonnahue2> the lan clients can bing the wan by ip but not dns
[23:35] <bdonnahue2> can nayone help me out
[23:37] <Bashing-om> bdonnahue2: "eth0: is depreciated, what shows ' ip a ' for the interface name ?
[23:38] <bdonnahue2> eth0
[23:48] <bdonnahue2> can anyone help me setup dnsmasq?