[00:10] thanks pavlos, it didn't work :( [00:10] I mean I can still ṕush from command line but gitg gets stuck [00:11] tried --system, --global and --local === WalterWhitesCook is now known as SpoopyWalter === jess-o-lantern is now known as jess === deadk is now known as e [00:56] hi, i am on ubuntu 18.04.5 and try to start a .JAR on startup. I decided to use crontab @reboot to start a .sh file which then starts the .jar file. here is my command: @reboot www-data /var/www/html/tool/tool-start.sh >> /home/log/log.log 2>&1 [00:56] however, this command seems to be ignored. no log is created === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [01:07] oh, got :) === johuck4 is now known as johuck === foxtober is now known as vulpine [01:34] Hey, is there a way to ask for a password when I start virt-manager? [01:39] quadrathoch2: why? === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [01:40] jpds well, I am just used to it, and like it (as all other distros do it) === SpookyScarySkele is now known as dTal [01:41] quadrathoch2: virt-manager hasn't asked me for a password on... Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo [01:41] oO it always asked me that on opensuse/debian/fedora [01:42] can't remember on arch [01:42] Is your user in the libvirt group? [01:42] jpds yes [01:42] Weird [01:43] i will just spin up a vm on debian to verify (need to install a de for a sec) === disillusion is now known as Nov1-Vaccine === Nov1-Vaccine is now known as disillusion [01:59] jpds yeah, just checked. debian asks me for the user password === zbenjamin is now known as Guest70410 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:08] <][04|-050PYCKi> can you tell me where the application error logs and the distribution shell are stored ? [02:08] keep 6 feet away please [02:10] ][04|-050PYCKi do you mean /var/log? [02:11] and idk what you mean by distributionn shell [02:11] trick or treat [02:12] anyone recognize my costume? I'm the AOL Instant Messenger icon. [02:12] asl [02:14] tough crowd [02:14] Experiencing text and image files losing their content, anyone know how that can be happening? [02:16] i guess we need more info joeZ [02:19] <][04|-050PYCKi> distro operating system.. misunderstandings of the translator .. sorry :) [02:21] ][04|-050PYCKi look probably in 'sudo journalctl' [02:25] There are many types of logs. File based logs are in /var/log; syslog based logs can be found in journalctl; if applications started with systemd and output logs to stdout/stderr, the logs can be found in journalctl too. [02:26] Had been running the HP notebook with Mint, but decided to return to Ubuntu. Did a fresh install of 20.04 Mate and began saving photos on the computer and taking notes with pluma. And a few days later found many of the files showed 0 bytes. Thought maybe 20.10 would resolve the issue so upgraded to it once it became available, and the same thing happened a few days later. Tested the HD and found no errors, and everything seems [02:26] normal otherwise. Don't know where else to look for why this is happening. Computer is always shut down properly. [02:31] joeZ I guess you are using the default filesystem? did you already look into the logs (journalctl?) === WalterWhitesCook is now known as SpoopyWalter [02:50] both root and home are ext4 file systems and we looked at most every log in /var/log but saw nothing as well as dmesg. We can't think of a way that some, not all files in a folder are losing their content though the names remain and no errors are ever displayed. Also tried using a new folder name to store photos and notes after upgrading to 20.10 mate and had the same thing happen again, currently we are checking to see how many 0 [02:50] byte files exist each time the computer is booted and the last few days it has remained about 20, which seem to be normal. [02:51] joeZ did SMART give you any hints maybe? [02:57] Ran the 'long' smartctl test which showed no problems. [02:57] joeZ and what about the bad blocks maybe? [02:58] because only a certain amount is 'okay' before the disk gets too many [02:58] `badblocks(8)` might be helpful there [02:59] smartctl wouldn't show them if there are any? [02:59] first I would look at how many you got (through the firmware) [02:59] what sort of drive is this? ssd? [03:02] It's a 2.5" SATA mechanical HDD. I've never used the badblocks command need the drive be unmounted to run it? and how do you look at the badblocks in firmware? [03:04] hm I was sure that smartctl would give out how many bad blocks the firmware reports :/ [03:05] so other thing: if this data lost is important to you, take an image of your partition of disk sooner rather than later [03:06] hello [03:06] ubuntu suddenly stopped booting but linux did [03:06] sorry I mean windows still boots just fine [03:06] it made everything readonly... was complaining about read only filesystem and it stopped functioning [03:07] but windows works just fine... and it's a brand new hard drive I bought a month ago... so it makes no sense [03:11] EvilKittyBoi: Boot back into Windows - make sure then that you shut Windows down completely ( NO hiberbatuon), boot up the ubuntu installer and run fsck on the ubuntu partition. Any errors reported that it can not fix ? [03:12] windows is not hybernating [03:12] windows is hibernating when you click shut down (at least as default) [03:13] I disabled that... [03:13] just wanted to make sure [03:14] what is more windows thinks there is filesystem corruption every time I attempt to boot into linux [03:14] EvilKittyBoi: Thing is that the kernel goes read only to protect its self. A file sgsyem check may reveal why and/or fix the issue. [03:14] system* [03:14] there's no readonly more in linux it flats out stopped booting [03:14] I can't do absolutely anything [03:15] I don't have a usb drive with me right now... I am using another computer, is there a way I can make it work again?... access the terminal at least [03:15] EvilKittyBoi: We work a file system check from the liveUSB ( installer), Can not work on a file system that is mounted - a moving target that can not be hit. [03:17] EvilKittyBoi: While there is a way - possibly - to boot the install - the correct thing is as stated - work from a live environment. === jess is now known as j [03:19] I don't have a USB stick [03:20] hi how do i freeze ubuntu kernel and all of its dependencies from updating [03:21] will linux stop booting if one of my hard drives is damaged? [03:21] damaged like scratched? [03:21] I can't see the older hard drive even in winblows [03:21] like I said I bought a new hard drive [03:22] can you see it in the bios? [03:22] the older hard drive is still connected but i can't see their partitions [03:22] it should show in the bios hdd list [03:22] yes I can see it... it's listed here but I can't see to see its partitions [03:22] not sure because I am in windows [03:22] I don't even remember if it was in ext4 but I should still be able to see the partitions [03:23] EvilKittyBoi may be there is somethjing wrong with the partition table [03:23] no wait nevermind it's there [03:23] it's just ext4 indeed [03:23] notadeveloper look into apt pinning [03:23] what should i pin quadrathoch2 [03:24] so how can I boot into the terminal at least if I don't have a live usb [03:24] notadeveloper depends on what you have installed as a kernel, but for me it's linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 [03:26] so is it unfixable? [03:26] EvilKittyBoi it is fixable, but if you don't want to lose any data, using a usb would be best [03:27] I have no usb [03:28] EvilKittyBoi you could also use an external disk as a 'live usb stick' [03:28] I don't have that either [03:28] I'd like to get a terminal like in the old times, you pressed tab and you got into a terminal [03:29] well what error do you get? [03:29] I get the feeling the linux kernel has gotten more unstable the more time it passes, I don't remember having this issues before :( [03:29] no error it just straight up won't boot [03:29] Hi. Is there any simple to use GUI app for managing samba? [03:30] it just decided to stop booting [03:30] EvilKittyBoi and what does that mean? like do you see grub? grub errors out or what [03:30] nothing, it does absolutely nothing... there's no grub, there's nothing... [03:30] I need to share folders to concrete user and I want those folders and my computer to be visible in LAN [03:31] javango is the right click properties share option not enough? I guess that's only on proper ubuntu [03:31] but it does boot when I tell the bios to use windows instead... [03:32] EvilKittyBoi well, we need more info, nothing else will really help. [03:32] quadrathoch2, I could have only shared subfolder in my home folder with this right-click-feature [03:32] I turn on the PC and it stays there, black screen with the logo of the motherboard [03:32] I want also to share mounted drive [03:32] that's all... [03:32] I cannot access it, although it seemed to be shared [03:33] no error messages, no logs, absolutely nothing... I was running linux before when it said readonly file system and then it turned itself off [03:33] javango I guess, then i don't know [03:33] I was doing some work when I got interrupted like that [03:33] EvilKittyBoi: first, physically remove/unplug your old hard drive, then try booting. If there's still no change, I would recommend waiting till you have a USB or CD you can boot to to further diagnose/repair [03:34] EvilKittyBoi: also, just because a drive is "new", doesn't mean it's not bad or maybe cabling or a motherboard problem [03:34] then it should also affect windows... I left the old hard drive for just random files [03:34] EvilKittyBoi: also https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001762.htm [03:34] that's off [03:35] EvilKittyBoi: ok, then follow the rest of the suggestions [03:35] EvilKittyBoi: nothing can be done till then [03:35] EvilKittyBoi I guess windows messed with the boot sequence, so just look into that, but as I said earlier, we would need more info to really help out [03:36] quadrathoch2, it did not because I was right on linux, booted into linux, was doing work when it decided to die on me [03:36] exit [03:36] windows hadn't been booted in a while... [03:37] let me get a freaking usb drive, sigh... === SpoopyWalter is now known as Lantern === Lantern is now known as LanternOJackin [03:51] the owner of everything is user#10000 [03:53] literally everything? [03:56] don't know why my hard drive identifiers became sda but whatever I ran fsck [03:56] okei now it boots [03:57] why is there a new mounted thing called writable? [03:57] that's the name of the usb live, weird.... [03:58] so why in the world fsck cannot run anymore on startup and why it corrupted my hard drive on its own to start with? [04:00] linux has gotten prettier and easier to use but at what cost :( maybe I should think to change to a more stable distro === weretav1a is now known as octav1a [04:00] EvilKittyBoi idk what you are doing but my ubuntu checks the disks every few boots :/ and was never an issue [04:00] my hard drive literally corrupted itself while doing some docker shenanigans [04:01] and then got into readonly mode, and everything started crashing and ended up into a restart and after that it didn't want to boot [04:02] that's why I am sure it wasn't windows, it just happened right in front of me :( [04:02] did you install docker form the repos or the docker repo? [04:02] from* [04:03] the issue is, that I recently changed distro because I was having issues with some other kernel like very weird port issues... in network... and now this scares me, because I couldn't even save anything it just blew up onto itself [04:03] from apt [04:03] I've been using docker from ages [04:04] like I know how to handle linux, I've been using linux for yeaaaaars, I just, never seen anything like this before... [04:04] apt is not a repo, so i guess ubuntu repo oO? [04:04] not even access to the terminal on startup, like what happened with the safe boot thing?... is it gone [04:04] yes the standard docker.io ubuntu repo [04:05] the three package managers have been causing me issues too... now there's apt, snap and flatpak... [04:05] it should still be there, just hidden [04:05] (grub is hidden not the option) [04:06] this is using systemmd [04:06] but honestly I am now well versed as in, a super OS geek, I just use linux to code good ol javascript garbage [04:07] hm then you should have added the added the safe boot to systemd-boot [04:08] yeah, i also hate that we have multiple package managers :/ pip also comes into mind, but I try to avoid as many as possible [04:09] but really, don't you get the feeling that things have gone more unstable recently?... [04:10] EvilKittyBoi for me it got better, so can't really complain [04:10] makes me wonder if the limits of technological development is going to be with us programmers unable to keep up with the sheer complexity [04:11] but yes complexity is going to strain the programmers at some point :/ [05:13] Sorry if it is wrong channel for this question. I have an ubuntu machine with mounted hard drive with photos. I want to watch those photos using Android device. Can anyone give me proper manual how to achieve it without pain? [05:14] javango: What do you mean "watch" these photos? You mean you want to see the photos on your Android device? [05:14] fcgreg, yes [05:15] but I want it to be secured. Like prompt for password [05:15] in L [05:15] LAN [05:16] javango, do you want them to stay on your Ubuntu system and view/stream them on the Android, or do you want to transfer them to the Android? [05:17] fcgreg, first thing. there are a lot of them. I want to be able to walk through folders and see different photos from time to time [05:19] I started to dive into this and now I have two problems: 1. I use smb, my local (/home) folders are visible to android, but I couldn't login to mounted drive. Although I use the same user with same password and both dirs (dir on /home and dir on drive) are in the same group. 2. I don't know which app is able to conveniantly watch photos. I need to download each photo and then watch [05:20] and the third problem is my bad English. Sorry for it [05:21] One common way to do this is by running a media server on your Ubuntu system and then connecting to it over your local network. This page has some suggestions: https://www.linuxlinks.com/photogallery/ [05:21] Basically you're using HTTP to connect to your Ubuntu system that is mapped to your photo library. [05:22] fcgreg, interesting. thank you. what about videos? [05:22] Some of those solutions will let you share media with others outside of your home network, but that is bigger than what you were asking [05:22] Most of them will do videos as well [05:22] ok, let's try [05:37] hi guys i have a recurring pc freeze issue-am about to fresh install ubuntu, what can i do to eliminate the sdd as a source of problem, just ran sudo blkdiscard on /dev/sda am about to reboot and install any other suggestions? [05:38] ssd [05:41] plan moving forward is to install os update-if i find myself in the same pos in future(which i expect to) how should i go about finding the cause-dmesg | grep "error"?"other filters?" [05:41] or should i use journalctrl | grep [05:42] and i intend to test my memory with something gnu'y [05:42] (i mean ram) [05:48] fcgreg, hey bud any ideas on tackling my ssd preparation prior to reboot and install (pc freezing)? sorry to single you out but ur present and awake (me hopes lol) [05:49] javango, how goes with your photo challenge-are you winning/having any luck [05:50] conjo, I'm reading about piwigo - one of the options from that article [05:59] hey dude bloody pc froze on me missed anything you may have wrote please repeat javango [05:59] conjo, "I'm reading about piwigo - one of the options from that article" [06:00] but now I'm looking to MediaGobling [06:00] Do you want me tell you about result when I finish? [06:01] i was going to suggest that you quickly watch a vieo on utube about kde connect and if you likey then sudo apt upt update && sudo apt install kdeconnect [06:02] dont enter that [06:02] i will re write it/use the app store [06:02] sudo apt update && sudo apt install kdeconnect [06:03] then open the gui menu and run the program (make sure on same wifi) [06:04] I have gnome [06:04] by the way those commands are to be run in the terminal (press ctrl+alt+T) which will open a black screen [06:05] doesnt matter still can use it [06:08] ok, but i'll try those from the article first [06:08] thank you, anyway [06:08] thats cool bro what ever is easiest and works [06:08] gl [06:15] back to my drama can anyone suggest lines of inquiry-re freezing pc desktop [06:16] journalctrl dmesg (suggested filters for grep please) [06:19] if noone is answering because im running parrot im waiting on the iso and will be installing ubuntu promptly [06:19] need to boot from live/other lappy for now cuz daily driver is retarded at present [06:25] hey javango check out GSconnect i think its exactly what you would want [06:25] its for gnome [06:25] no dependencies needed no headache [06:33] conjo, alrighty [06:46] https://www.medievalands.com/ I've been trying to get this to run under wine but without any luck. I've got all the .net packages, wine, monodevelop. etc. etc. [06:47] Anyone have any idea? === grumboo is now known as grumble === WalterWhitesCook is now known as LanternOJackin [08:05] apt-get, busybox, and more? this tool allows as 3rd party to install from source on bsd and linux many applis. ... it is way smaller than busybox for cmds: https://termbin.com/abdm (source code in C) [08:07] unixbsd: not related to ubuntu support? [08:11] unixbsd: Please don't spam channels === Skeleswant is now known as Swant [08:20] jpds: thank you for the information, I wrote you in pm in any case. Feel free to discuss with me, thank you for your help in #ubuntu === Napsterbater is now known as Guest47996 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater === spookyscarysphal is now known as sphalerite [09:34] I upgraded to 20.04 with an external HDD plugged in. Name of the unit is 'A'. After the upgrade, eacht timeI plug in this HDD its directory name has been changed to 'A1'. How do I fixthis? [09:42] Hi. I've got a weird uninstallable zoom application. How come?/what can I do? It keeps showing up by dash search and the application runs normally. I removed it with "apt remove" and is not listed anymore. [09:42] How do I disable the "drag tab to open it as a new separate window" feature? [09:46] How do I disable the "drag tab to open it as a new separate window" feature for Chrome? [09:53] cariveri: "zoom" is not part of ubuntu (there may be a snap, though). what you'Re describing sounds like you may have partially installed a third party apt package, maybe one which isn't compatible to your ubuntu version. [09:54] srged: i heard about this being possible with firefox via about:config, chromium has something similar, but i don't know how to do it there. [09:55] frad: if it's just a directory name, you can just rename it in Gnome Files (formerly known as Nautilus), the Ubuntu file browser. [09:56] but i suspect you may be referring to a file system or partition label rather. [09:56] you can rename those, too, but will probably need to use Gnome Disks for it or a temrinal. [09:58] tomreyn, no, the partition label is still 'A', under thunar, but on the directory bar, it is 'A1'. Apparently it's a permissions problem: Failed to open a, permission denied [10:01] frad: thunar, so you are using xubuntu rather than ubuntu, i see. if you use user mounting via gio / udisks2 to mount it, you should be able to access the data. or you may need to modify the file system permissions to make them match your current user id (UID), if this somehow changed as a result of your upgrade. [10:02] i.e. using the chown command (which can break your entire system if you use it incorrectly) [10:02] i'm heading for breakfast now, back later [10:10] @tomreyn I success to use remote desktop thanks a lot : vino server side +https://pgaskin.net/linux-tips/how-to-use-vino-vnc-server-with-more-viewers/ (i'm in personal local network) / remmina client side. I can see my 2 screen desktop on my only 1 screen client :) [10:12] tomreyn: thanks. but /etc/apt$ grep -R zoom * <== no results. [10:31] tomreyn: I still cannot see where/how this zoom app is installed and how to uninstall it. its so weird. feels like a virus. [10:33] cariveri: Just run "ps auxf" - it'll show you the full path of the binary [10:33] cariveri: how do you start the app? [10:36] Trash? [10:36] EriC^: via dash. I search zoom which provides an icon to click on. its starts, looks like an windows 10 app, but conencting to a meeting did not work either. another version of the app was at least working there. [10:37] jpds: zoom is not mentioned in the list. :s [10:37] cariveri: When it's running [10:37] yes. [10:38] cariveri: drag the icon from the dash to the desktop and look at its properties to see which command its using when launching === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [10:41] EriC^^: dragging wont work unfortuantely. btw, its ubuntu 20 upgraded from 18. [10:42] EriC^^: instead it starts the thing. also from favourites/launcher bar. [10:54] cariveri: do you see its icon in /usr/share/applications ? [10:54] or name [10:57] no result on "ls /usr/share/applications | grep zoom" [11:03] what about /usr/local/share/applications? and ~/.local/share/applications? [11:03] also maybe grep -i zoom for case insensitivity [11:03] its prob the zoom snap? === j is now known as jess [11:06] mgedmin: no trace at all of zoom. nowhere. I also tried find / -type f -name "*zoom*" which brings up lots of zoom stuff, but its about magnifiers on apps. [11:07] that is also case-sensitive [11:08] you could pin it to the dock ("add to favourites") and then find out the name of the desktop file with gsettings get org.gnome.shell favorite-apps [11:11] mgedmin: oh jesus yes. I think that it good. I think its this weirdo here: chrome-hmbjbjdpkobdjplfobhljndfdfdipjhg-Default.desktop === MrSpooky is now known as MrMayflower [11:12] hahaaa it's a web app! [11:13] yes. sneaky. it just removed a chromium zoom extension. .. now the zoom laucnher icon opens chrome instead. [11:15] the file is still in ~/.local/share/applications/ and ~/.gnome/apps/ [11:19] I'm sure chrome has some way of removing web apps [11:19] I must admit, it was well done making a call to chromium without making it look like a browser app at all. [11:20] chrome://apps/ [11:20] already removed there. its jsut the launchers as left over. [11:21] oh, hmm, I expected chrome to clean the launchers too [11:21] would have been nice yes. [11:23] and the leading one was in ~/.local/share/applications/ its seems. [11:23] gone. [11:23] thanks you very much guys! [11:27] I don't even have a ~/.gnome here [11:27] sounds like something from gnome 2 ancient times, from before XDG desktop directories were invented [11:28] Hi. I am having an issue with my trackpad on Ubuntu 20.04 lately. I have a bluetooth external trackpad (apple magic trackpad 1) which used to work more or less fine in ubuntu. For a few weeks, for some reason, the scrolling direction of the trackpad is reversed, and the tap to click feature is disabled. I can go to the trackpad settings, and they are correctly settings. I can disable and re-enable these settings and everything works fine, but only until [11:28] the next rebook. What could have happened? [11:30] woenx: I've seen other people mentining this bug too [11:30] oh, and it's a laptop, and the built-in trackpad works just fine (the scrolling direction is correct, and opposite to that of the external trackpad) [11:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1899509 maybe? [11:31] Launchpad bug 1899509 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Mouse/touchpad settings not applied on hotplug/reconnect" [Low,Confirmed] [11:31] yes, the behavior I experienced seems to match this bug [11:33] There are a few duplicates, I don't know which one is the "master" [11:33] hi all, when did 20.04 came out ? [11:34] was that... April ? [11:35] etronik: the .04 stands for april [11:37] lotuspsychje, really ? been using this stuff since version 7 or 8 and never really was aware or that... LOL ! [11:37] YY.MM :D [11:38] duuuuh why you make me feel like Homer ? ;-) [11:38] !yy.mm [11:38] Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [11:38] because we have a factoid :p [11:39] ok so time to investigate this and prep the dreaded upgrade from 18.04... [11:39] BUT... 20.04.1 doesn't mean another release in January!! [11:39] (just to confuse you!) [11:39] yeah yeah that much I did gather :-) === shabgard is now known as mms [13:16] Hi all === zombiefox is now known as Fuchs [14:00] hey all [14:00] my wired ethernet connection has broke on my last reboot, how do i troubleshoot this? [14:01] i'm not familiar with how networking has changed with netplan/networkmanager/systemd, and don't know where to start troubleshooting [14:01] ubuntu wiki says, it should just work :S [14:04] billybigrigger, https://www.configserverfirewall.com/ubuntu-linux/ubuntu-network-manager/ [14:09] BluesKaj cool thanks [14:09] why isn't this in official docs? [14:09] I'm trying to remove and reinstall LXQT, but I cannot seem to find the desktop package, just a bunch of related packages [14:12] when I plug my monitor all windows from all workspaces on primary monitor are moved to single workspace on secondary monitor (that is NOT set as main monitor). This is super annoying [14:13] BluesKaj how to i find out if ens18 is set to dhcp or static with networkmanager? [14:13] i still can't get ens18 to give me an ip [14:16] billybigrigger: is this ubuntu desktop or server? and which ubuntu version? [14:16] Few days ago I've upgrade my 20.04 and Firefox frequently is slowing that I've an info: A web page is slowing down your browser. What would you like to do? Stop it / kill it ? Have you notice it as well? [14:16] dhcp is usually default , run ip ad in the terminal [14:16] billybigrigger,^ [14:17] 20.04 lts desktop [14:17] BTW Firefox was upgraded as well [14:17] billybigrigger: gnome-control-center (aka System Preferences) -> Network -> Wired [14:18] mgedmin ya it just sits on connecting [14:18] until i get an error it can't connect [14:18] Activation of network connection failed [14:18] you can check there how it's configured, though. [14:19] and optionally remove the profile and create a new one. [14:19] sounds like it's asking for a DHCP lease, but your DHCP server doesn't give it one [14:19] i've tried dhcp and manual settings [14:19] nothing works [14:20] is the cable plugged all the way in? can other devices get a DHCP lease on the same network? [14:20] check logs [14:20] props [14:20] does tcpdump -i ens18 show anything interesting? is the firewall blocking the udp ports used for DHCP? [14:20] any network-related errors from the ethernet driver in journalctl? [14:20] hola tomreyn [14:21] hi [14:22] rapidwave: more details, such as which ubuntu version and variant you'Re running, may be useful. [14:24] Ubuntu focal [14:24] Ubuntu Studio to be specific === billybigrigger2 is now known as billybigrigger [14:28] rapidwave: Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS uses the Xfce Desktop Environment [14:28] I have lxqt installed [14:30] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lxqt lists the packages that are direct dependencie of the lxqt metapackage [14:31] I'm trying to identify the top package to remove and install [14:31] there is also https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-qt-desktop in case you have this [14:31] and lxqt-core for the main lxqt package [14:32] "apt-rdepends lxqt" would list all dependencies, recursively. [14:35] I tried to remove and install lxqt-core....said package doesn't exist [14:36] vimart, what happened sorry? [14:38] rapidwave: it is a meta package https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lxqt-core [14:38] i think you can work it out, if you try a bit harder. [14:43] is there an official Ubuntu version with snapd disabled by default? [14:44] lnxslck: Yes, it's called Debian [14:45] Otherwise no, most of Ubuntu ships with snaps by default [14:53] jpds: thanks. Debian is the one I already use [14:58] Debian isn't a ubuntu version, it's a distribution on it's own. Older than ubuntu and Ubuntu is based on that. [14:59] rolf "yes its called debian" [15:00] Maik: As someone that's contributed for years to both: I know [15:00] good to know [15:01] lnxslck: you can go the Mint route if you want, still have ubuntu as a base but no snap. Or... you install Ubuntu and remove all the snap related stuff. [15:01] fyi delayed as fk reaction not laughing at either of ya [15:01] :) [15:05] lnxslck: why disable snapd? [15:09] grub can be installed on HDD if the entire disk is logical? [15:10] grub can be installed on HDD if the entire HDD is logical? [15:10] define "logical"? [15:20] extended=16 partitions max vs logical=4partitions max [15:21] I think you mean primary [15:22] lol i do [15:22] The question is not clear. Explain. I see here that cannot be install. https://askubuntu.com/questions/459620/unable-to-install-grub-in-dev-sda-when-installing-grub [15:23] that's a question from 2014? [15:23] read 20.04 [15:24] yeah, it's plausible that grub needs /boot to be a primary partition [15:29] https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#BIOS-installation [15:30] that page doesn't say anything [15:30] if sda primary, legasy bios. /boot logical sdb6 i can install grub to sda? [15:32] I don't know [15:33] I can't find an authoritative source on boot partition requirements [15:33] EriC^^: to the rescue^^ [15:34] Okay, I'll check in the virtual machine. [15:34] (also, it's not a good idea to ask a question inside an askubuntu "answer" to a different question from 2014) [15:35] on the latest 20.10, fresh install, having EXTREME interface lag using my external monitors and laptop. The LTS worked fine, upgrading/installing latest does not. What has changed to make so much lag? It's unusable (nvidia rtx 2070), using 32" 2K monitor, and a 15" laptop. [15:35] hmm https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html says it's not necessary for /boot to be a primary partition? [15:35] haha lilo just how old is that document? [15:36] hola lotuspsychje [15:36] 26 Dec 2005 [15:36] rolf [15:37] "1I don't have a Lenovo Yoga but I had the same issue on my desktop. It has SSD and HDD drivers, it was listed like this: [15:37] SATA#1 HDD /dev/sda SATA#2 SSD /dev/sdb As always I'm trying to install the OS on my SSD. The installer is installing Ubuntu (or Linux Mint) on /dev/sdb but then is trying to install GRUB on /dev/sda. That is a problem. [15:37] The solution was to swap the SATA connections, like this: [15:37] SATA#1 SSD /dev/sda SATA#2 HDD /dev/sdb share improve this answer follow answered Jun 24 '18 at 16:49megas2,14766 gold badges2525 silver badges3333 bronze badgesadd a comment1I got the same error while installing Ubuntu 20.04. Turned out that I had created "logical" instead of "primary" partitions during the installation process for both my EFI and root partition. I ran the installation again, this time configuring both part [15:37] s as a "primary" partition, and the error was gone this time." very similar to mine. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#BIOS-installation [15:37] Bustin: I've the impression nvidia hasn't updated their proprietary drivers to work with the new kernel in ubuntu 20.10 yet? [15:38] I wrote read [15:38] please don't copy-paste novels directly into irc thank you [15:39] mgedmin: That would make sense, what can be done, if I'm at this state on a fresh install, that's pretty much unusable? Uninstall the current nvidia driver, roll back to prior release? Doesn't that require downgrading kernal to do? [15:40] Bustin: I don't know what to tell you; I avoid nvidia graphics because I hate this kind of problem [15:40] things should get better with time [15:40] Bustin: what gives nvidia-smi ? [15:41] 455.28 cuda 11.1 [15:41] lotuspsychje [15:42] Bustin: did you try a switch the one version lower yet as a test? [15:42] Bustin: ubuntu-drivers list to see whats available === jeddo- is now known as jeddo [15:44] ok, will brb, need to restart. [15:48] hello, is there a way to automatically detect an already existing machine, to detect what OS / web stack / packages it needs and generate a shell script or config file to be able to spin up a similar instance? [15:49] my firewall rules allow only 80,443 and 22 - what am I able to ping the server? [15:49] regedit: No, use proper automation like Ansible [15:49] jpmh: ufw? [15:50] jpds yes [15:50] jpds: looking that up... does this Ansible have some facility to detect/read a current existing server so it can replicate its setup? [15:50] regedit: No, you have to craft your own playbooks [15:51] i see [15:51] jpmh: That allows ICMP regardless of what you configure [15:51] jpds: why? [15:52] jpmh: It's generally considered a Bad Idea to block ICMP unless you really know what you're doing [15:52] aren't there _any_ technologies like this? to detect a current/existing setup and generate some sort of shell or config script to be able to easily duplicate such a setup? i can't help think this should exist... but on rare occasions i've been wrong in life [15:52] jpds: while I am not concerned too much about ping, why? [15:52] regedit: I guess there's things like clonzailla [15:53] jpmh: Because a lot of internal networking, etc, uses it for signalling [15:53] i disabled gdm and now i am not able anymore to enable it [15:53] an [Install] section is missing [15:53] jpds: TY [15:56] jpmh: read about how Path MTU discovery uses ICMP to see just one reason why blocking ICMP by default would be a Bad Idea [15:56] i intuitivly added [Install] WantedBy=graphical.target and now it's working on reboot [15:56] don't know why this is missing [15:56] mgedmin: reading now - ty [15:57] regedit: But, generally best practice is to use technologies like Puppet, Ansible, Chef if you are managing fleets of machines [15:57]