 i will use Ubuntu Touch till my carrier tmobile USA switched to VoLTE only this upcoming january
 as i know ubuntu touch dont work for me when i try VoLTE ON TMOBILE currently
 im gonna buy a Fxtecpro1-1X but ill use lineageOS on it till ubuntu touch gets Volte then switch back
 hm, att is ending theirs in 2022
 yeah i have a 12 years grandfathered plan on tmobile i want to keep
 ill go back to ubuntu touch once they solve the volte thing
 @jameshjacksonjr [yeah i have a 12 years grandfathered plan on tmobile i want to keep], I have the grandfathered $30 one
 on tmobile
 I wanna daily UT, but I cant cause my carrier (Sprint) uses CDMA which UT doesnt play nice with
 but not being able to call will not be fun
 and the merger hasnt changed anything as far as the base network so far
 @mateosalta [but not being able to call will not be fun], tell me about it, no use having a phone that doesnt do the phone part
 o dear
 (Photo, 664x142) https://irc.ubports.com/wrrN5WNt.png
 what a mess
 T-Mobile will reportedly soon require VoLTE on devices connecting to its network - TmoNews … https://www.tmonews.com/2020/07/t-mobile-reportedly-require-volte-devices-connecting-network/
 Yeah it's a huge mess for us
 I'm sure Ubports dosent want to lost all the USA users so it shouldn't be long before they solve it
 I think pine was in the works
 I think there was maybe a way they were looking into to enable the sony phone
 (Photo, 1057x469) https://irc.ubports.com/eeyCUVVq.png
 If this is US only, than itll be a lot easier for US developers to solve since they can test and trouble shoot it faster.
 nah, I think australia was ditching sometime too
 So Tmobile finally confirmed it's true if u go to Tmobile today they won't activate new device thats not VoLTE
 Yeah it affects a few countries
 Think 3 or 4 so far
 http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201903/13/WS5c88b5c5a3106c65c34ee6e1.html
 https://www.westbase.io/3g-sunset-in-europe-planning-your-next-steps/
 next year or two will get very hard everywhere if you need 3g voice
 I have a couple good contacts with T-Mobile, I havent gone to see them since before the merger (was a Sprint store before merger), Ill gonpuck their brain and see if they can maybe shed some insight
 @Shakendo [tell me about it, no use having a phone that doesnt do the phone part], tbf "phone" is like the least used app on my "phone"
 yes, as is with most phones, but whe you cant text or use mobile data either then you are carrying a MID instead of a smartphome
 nah 4G data works. VoLTE is the main issue for t-mo or other services that are ending 2G/3G voice calling
 anyway, UT isn't the only OS where this is an issue
 @dohbee [nah 4G data works. VoLTE is the main issue for t-mo or other services that are e …], well thats half of it, with sprint, since its a CDMA network, and 4G/LTE doesnt connect to sprint without it, then its as I said
 @jameshjacksonjr [So Tmobile finally confirmed it's true if u go to Tmobile today they won't activ …], But if you already have an activated SIM, this doesn't necessarily mean that it won't work when you put it into a different device.
 My Meizu Pro 5 shows up in my T-Mobile account as "unknown device" - not sure if they are going to eventually blacklist all devices that they can't identify - but that would seem extreme to me.  AT&T is not planning on eliminating their 2G/3G until early 2022, as far as I know, so Ubuntu Touch in the USA might be able to buy an extra y
[04:21] <ubptgbot> ear by moving to them from their current carrier.
 Given that my Meizu Pro 5 is 3G only, my transition plan is that I am waiting on my Volla Phone to ship later this month.  From there I will see whether I can continue to use my T-Mobile with UT,  if not the options are to change to AT&T and/or just run Volla OS on it.  I hope to be able to continue using UT for my daily driver in 2021
[04:25] <ubptgbot> , I really don't want to go to a different OS for this.
 @Shakendo [well thats half of it, with sprint, since its a CDMA network, and 4G/LTE doesnt …], well UT on android based devices won't connect to CDMA at all, but also CDMA will be phased out as well
 Sprint and T-mobile are merging - so I believe GSM options will soon come to Sprint accounts though.
 3G will be available from AT&T until February 2022 - https://www.att.com/support/article/wireless/KM1324171
 @mateosalta [o dear], just saw this - seems the option to use AT&T in 2021 for some UT users potentially moving from T-mobile will not be as possible as I thought it would be.
 I like UT but will use what ever OS choice will give me VoLTE I own a business a carpet tile and hardwood store when my clients ring me it goes to my cellphone I make and receive 50 to 60 calls daily so for me a phone is still phone
 @jameshjacksonjr [I like UT but will use what ever OS choice will give me VoLTE I own a business a …], Yup - same thing here - I also run my own business and need to receive calls.
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 @TotalSonic [just saw this - seems the option to use AT&T in 2021 for some UT users potential …], just a year though
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 @Danfro [And one more Xperia specific thing : currently wifi mac address seems to change …], This will change after the OTA and when the Sony upstream situation regarding macaddrsetup is resolved.
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 Anyone ported Ubuntu Touch on S7 edge?
 @elexiersheran [Anyone ported Ubuntu Touch on S7 edge?], Isn't there a port online for that?
 @jameshjacksonjr [I'm sure Ubports dosent want to lost all the USA users so it shouldn't be long b …], its not like they don't want to solve it tho :p
 I'm really happy. Apparently one of my dozens of slimport adapters is still working and even reliably on my Nexus 5. Plugging and unplugging worked well and no disconnection or whatsoever. It's been a while  😄
 Hello community, I would like to know if ubuntu touch already has compatibility with anbox to run Android apps
 multi-display didn't work on edge though...actually external display didn't work at all as it was just frozen 😅
 @RoninGamer47 [Hello community, I would like to know if ubuntu touch already has compatibility …], there are devices that supports anbox but it's still very experimental and I'm not sure if someone use it as a dauly driver
 In practice we're still missing hardware access, integration in the notification system, etc. So not a good experience atm.
 right, but the question of apps like whatsapp already has something ?
 @jameshjacksonjr [I'm sure Ubports dosent want to lost all the USA users so it shouldn't be long b …], We dont want to loose anyone but volte is still a big mystery. There is no way to solve it quickly and consistent, and I expect at least one year or more for that to come on the Android phones. Partially it will work on the Pinephone ear
[16:09] <ubptgbot> lier
 Also, please don't talk like we're some shadowy figure making changes to a shadowy OS. We're right here :P
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/08TC3km8.webp
 Yes its not like all devs are in this chat ;)
 "They" developers versus "Us" users always makes me uncomfortable. We're far too close to the same people, and we rely on each other far too much to adopt that mindset
 Yeah Im a user myself. VoLTE is smth I would love to have. We are trying to team up with Jolla and Sailfish on this matter btw
 @Flohack [Yeah Im a user myself. VoLTE is smth I would love to have. We are trying to team …], 👍
 yeah, most U.S. carriers are switching to VoLTE only within the next couple years, my phone has an update to make it so I cant turn it off, but Im not applying it cause I like having that control option
 Hello everyone. Say please, can I install Unity8 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS or does support Unity8 18.04 only?
 20.04 is not supported yet, and i would say 18.04 is not really supported well either
 @UniversalSuperBox ["They" developers versus "Us" users always makes me uncomfortable. We're far too …], That's right we are at the same time developers and users, we test to bring bug fixes and new features 😊😁
 @dohbee [20.04 is not supported yet, and i would say 18.04 is not really supported well e …], Thank you. Does unity support LTS-ubuntu only?
 @DimZ23 [Thank you. Does unity support LTS-ubuntu only?], really, Lomiri is only supporting Ubuntu Touch currently. there are ongoing efforts to get it working in debian, manjaro, and other distros though
 we do not have the resources to ensure Lomiri works on all versions of Ubuntu or on random distros though, as far as core developers of UBports and Ubuntu Touch go
 Understand. Yeah, without resources hard do it.
 I wonder if fxtex would contribute to Lomiri's development. I just tried an external display and there are still bugs that make it a not so pleasing experience.  App scaling is mostly finicky 😅
 person who tweaks scaling to have windowed mode on a phone complains that app scaling is finicky with external display ;P
 The main problem is apps not receiving ScreenChanged. Why that happens in anyone's guess
 the issue with isolated scaling was already fixed but sometimes apps still open in big scaling and has to be dragged on the left edge to make it correct again
 @dohbee [person who tweaks scaling to have windowed mode on a phone complains that app sc …], by the way, Authenticator is always big on an external display. Other qqc2 apps work fine though but I think those use auto scaling
 maybe I'll try Qt 5.12 in my next testing
 @Javacookies [by the way, Authenticator is always big on an external display. Other qqc2 apps …], maybe qt is giving the wrong ratio then
 it works fine running it on my PC :)
 yeah maybe something to do with qt scaling or lomiri
 probably due to how external screen works, and qtmir
 Iirc the Qt screen scaling thing is not even used on lomiri ( unless that changed by now) and it's all about the units.gu() stuff
 @mzanetti [Iirc the Qt screen scaling thing is not even used on lomiri ( unless that change …], either something is giving the wrong `pysicalDotsPerInch` value, or it's giving the wrong `primaryScreen`
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 Hello there, I currently try to install ubuntu Touch on a nexus 4 and experiecing some trouble with it. … I was following the instructions from the installer but the process failed when I rebooted the Nexus to the Bootloader. … I get the following error: … FAILED(remote: 'not supported in locked device') … fastboot: error: command failed
 you need to run `fastboot oem unlock` it seems
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gEG14zOu.webp
 Merci!
 👋 hello how did I get here?
 @botdamian [👋 hello how did I get here?], Accident? 😂
 Stork?
 Idk I know UBports from Pine Phone but I don't know why I'm in this group tho.
 This is the general group. 'Supergroup'
 So when I'm here, does anyone tried Ubports on S10?
 @botdamian [Idk I know UBports from Pine Phone but I don't know why I'm in this group tho.], you joined back in may
 There are UBports groups in various languages btw
 @botdamian [So when I'm here, does anyone tried Ubports on S10?], not possible yet as it shipped with android 10 i think
 (could be wrong though. if it was 9, then maybe possible, but someone with that device will need to do the work to build kernel and such)
 So if I send you my s10 you could do it?
 no. but you are welcome to follow the porting guide and try to do it yourself :)
 😁
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 Consigo instalar no oneplus3t?
 Sim
 can I install no oneplus 3t?
 Sem problema?
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/oneplus3t/
 Por esse link aí mesmo ?
 @ubports_pt
 Blz vou entrar
 Yes that one. But you may need some help from the forum too
 👍
 How to write there?
 You need to register
 where? the forum?
 I assume so
 hmmm
 Registei já
 Mas não tem como manda msg
 voce neccesito verifiar tu email
 @Mrcayky [Mas não tem como manda msg], Please use English in this group. For Portuguese please go to https://t.me/UBports_PT
 @Mrcayky [Mas não tem como manda msg], ahem you need to verify your email
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 can I install from Windows PC?
 yes you can just download the windows version of the installer
 the @WelcomePlus group has some tips that may be useful to you
 Precisa baixar algum arquivo por celular ou o instalar ja tudo?
 Need to download some file by cell phone or install it all?
 you can connect your phone to your pc and the installer will take care of the rest
 be sure your phone is listed on devices.ubuntu-touch.io, as those are the only devices that are supported
 I can run whatsapp right?
 no whatsapp doesn't support ubuntu touch
 telegram does however, i'm typing this on ubuntu touch
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 (Photo, 640x988) https://irc.ubports.com/nff0x9Co.png
 But can I install it?
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