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callmepkgood morning01:18
dufluMorning callmepk 01:42
callmepkmorning duflu 01:50
jibelGood morning06:16
dufluMorning jibel 06:16
jibelHi duflu 06:16
callmepkmorning jibel 06:17
jibelMorning callmepk 06:19
seb128goood morning desktopers06:37
dufluMorning seb128 06:49
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:55
dufluHi oSoMoN 07:05
RAOFMornin' seb128, oSoMoN. Evenin', duflu!07:10
dufluHey RAOF07:10
oSoMoNhey duflu & RAOF 07:11
RAOFseb128: would you be up for a little light colord sponsoring? There's a new upstream release and removal of RoM dependency.07:11
dufluRoM?07:12
RAOFRemove from archive.07:22
ricotzgood morning desktopers!07:26
ricotzcould someone retry libreoffice amd64 here https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#libreoffice which ran out of disc space07:26
dufluMorning ricotz 07:28
oSoMoNgood morning ricotz 07:29
oSoMoNlooking07:29
oSoMoNdone07:31
seb128hey duflu, oSoMoN, ricotz, how are you?07:37
ricotzoSoMoN, thank you07:37
seb128RAOF, hey, sure for the sponsoring, where is the package?07:37
didrocksgood morning07:37
seb128lut didrocks 07:37
ricotzhey duflu seb128 didrocks 07:37
dufluseb128, somewhere between great and tired. Just as the weather here is drifting between cool and too warm... How are you seb128 ?07:37
RAOFseb128: it's in salsa. If you'd prefer a source package I can provide one tomorrow.07:38
GunnarHjHi Trevinho, I would like to fix bug #1902829. Is there anything else urgent for gnome-shell in groovy which should be taken care of concurrently?07:40
ubot5bug 1902829 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Groovy) "Missing "Mobile Broadband" menu item" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190282907:40
didrockshey seb128, ricotz 07:40
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu jibel seb128 oSoMoN RAOF ricotz didrocks08:26
jibelBonjour marcustomlinson 08:26
dufluMorning marcustomlinson 08:26
marcustomlinsonI mean didrocks99908:27
didrocks999hey marcustomlinson 08:28
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marcustomlinson:P still rocking 3G didrocks?08:28
didrocks4G* but yeah, for the forseeable future (thanks Orange)08:29
marcustomlinsonIs that not getting super expensive?08:29
didrocksbut TBH, apart from IRC with drops, I wouldn’t even notice it08:29
didrocksI have like 60Mb/s08:29
marcustomlinsonI just remember ping being horrible on mobile data when I was between places08:30
didrocks64 bytes from par10s28-in-f99.1e100.net (216.58.204.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=44.5 ms08:31
didrocksnot excellent, but not that bad08:31
marcustomlinsonOh that’s not bad at all08:31
didrocksas told you, apart from IRC, very happy with this 4G router (because I’m on 3 bands I guess)08:32
didrocksso aggregation FTW!08:32
jibelmarcustomlinson, it's pretty cheap with some operators in France. If you subscribe to broadband internet around 40€/mo you have unlimited data on your phone for 16€/mo08:35
marcustomlinsonyeah that’s reasonable08:36
seb128RAOF, salsa is fine08:37
seb128duflu, I'm alright, feeling much better but not fully recovered yet 08:37
oSoMoNsalut seb128, didrocks, jibel 08:41
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson 08:41
didrockssalut oSoMoN 08:42
Laneyyo09:01
didrockshey Laney 09:04
Laneyhow's it going didrocks 09:05
luna_the first Daily image for Hippo is now out09:06
jibelsalut icey 09:06
jibeloops09:06
jibelsalut oSoMoN 09:06
didrocksLaney: good, sun is back. It will be another 1km cap run today :) (unlike our politics who are doing some exercise outside of their 1km limit apparently…)09:08
Laneythe rules are only for you little people!09:10
didrockslooks like it :p09:10
oSoMoNhey Laney 09:12
marcustomlinsonmorning Laney09:12
oSoMoNdidrocks, you should get into politics09:12
Laneyhey oSoMoN & marcustomlinson 09:13
Laneywhat's the news09:13
didrocksoSoMoN: just for being able to exercise further away from my home, *excellent* idea!09:13
oSoMoNfree running and ultra trails for everyone, vote didrocks !09:14
didrocksnot that more stupid that some proposals I see from politics :)09:15
luna_also morning desktoppers09:19
didrockshey luna_ 09:20
marcustomlinsonhi luna_09:37
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy a184ac4 Gunnar Hjalmarsson * pushed 404 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/DAL209:40
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 3a7e0f8 Ken VanDine debian/ changelog .gitignore * Import Debian changes 3.36.4-1ubuntu2~build1 * https://deb.li/3jIgg09:40
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy b8d3148 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (300 files in 44 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.37.91-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3L26C09:40
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy d72dc98 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (15 files in 2 dirs) * debian/patches: Refresh * https://deb.li/Tn8h09:40
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 55482dd Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ control control.in * debian/control: Set breaks on upcoming core extensions * https://deb.li/iirtc09:40
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy d67a2d1 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ control control.in * debian/control: Set breaks on upcoming yaru theme * https://deb.li/Qn0x09:40
seb128oSoMoN, do you know if there is any thunderbird extension or such that would would parse X-MailControl-ReportSpam and open the url in $webbrowser?09:46
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oSoMoNseb128, no idea10:09
seb128oSoMoN, no worry, i was asking in case. I started having enough cleaning spams in my inbox and learnt about that header we have on the Canonical emails10:10
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 8cb1a6f Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/ubuntu/modemManager_Add-property-getters.patch * Fix issue with missing "Mobile Broadband" menu item * https://deb.li/lrGe10:10
seb128so I started to copy paste those urls in a webbrowser but that's tedious10:10
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 036af62 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/ubuntu/modemManager_Add-property-getters.patch * Fix issue with missing "Mobile Broadband" menu item * https://deb.li/3EAj010:11
seb128GunnarHj, hey, did you sync up with Trevinho before doing those changes? ask him at least before doing an upload, there is probably other fixes we want to include in the SRU10:11
GunnarHjseb128: I have asked, no answer yet. Didn't plan to upload before he responds.10:12
seb128k10:16
LaneyGunnarHj: I wouldn't put that in patches/ubuntu/ personally, that directory is for non upstreamable things really10:19
LaneyI think the series should go [cherry picks][proposed upstream changes][debian patches][ubuntu patches]10:19
Laneysort of the order in which things should be altered if stuff above them changes10:19
GunnarHjLaney: Makes sense. Let me change that.10:21
Laneybrr, I'm reminded about non upstreamed stuff that should be after looking at gnome-shell's patches10:22
GunnarHjLaney: It's not obvious where to place it in this case. ;)10:23
Laneyat the top, and also in unstable :p10:23
Laney(no reason why Debian users shouldn't get the benefit of this fix afaics?)10:24
GunnarHjLaney: My thought was that Debian unlike us doesn't have a fresh release with the issue.10:26
GunnarHjLaney: I mean, if it hadn't been for groovy I wouldn't have bothered. 3.38.2 comes in a few weeks.10:27
seb128GunnarHj, also on that discourse post, I wonder if the user was rather refearing to bug #1901318 which means usb-modeswitch-dispatcher fail and that's what is handling the device10:34
ubot5bug 1901318 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu) "needs to depend on tcl (not just tcl8.6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190131810:34
seb128GunnarHj, the interpreter used is tclsh and we had a depends on tclsh8.610:34
seb128so the interpreter is not found and the dispatcher errors out10:35
LaneyGunnarHj: Basically I think if we're putting in the effort to fix Ubuntu then it's barely much more work to fix Debian and we should do that so our work benefits more people. In this case someone has noticed and filed it there already: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=971511 - so you will make one person happy at least.10:35
ubot5Debian bug 971511 in gnome-shell "gnome-shell: Mobile Broadband icon doesn't show up anymore in system status area on 3.38 upgrade" [Important,Open]10:35
GunnarHjseb128: You may be right. But that's already on its way, right?10:38
seb128GunnarHj, yes, I was just pointing it out as a FYI10:39
GunnarHjLaney: Ok, let me push to unstable too then. (Will do it later this afternoon - busy with other stuff for a while.)10:39
Laneythanks :>10:39
seb128oSoMoN, I found a way to be efficient with the spams, I just move them to a local folder and then I go grep | xargs webbrowser on the mailbox (could even cron that)10:44
seb128oSoMoN, sorry for the noise, was just sharing, you pobably don't care :-)10:44
Laneymove to mutt like the cool kids, it could be scripted there :>10:54
seb128:-)11:01
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KGB-2gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy db00c2e Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/modemManager_Add-property-getters.patch * Move cherry picked commit to top of d/series * https://deb.li/hAoG13:55
KGB-2gnome-shell ubuntu/master 1004524 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/modemManager_Add-property-getters.patch * Move cherry picked commit to top of d/series * https://deb.li/3SQrM13:56
luna_hey15:47
xnoxLaney:  seb128: heya, does February 11 make sense for glib 40 beta/rc landing in HH? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-schedule/1853915:50
xnoxi picked that out of the blue based on gnome calendard.15:51
xnoxbut it may mean that it's landing together with glibc15:51
Laneywhich calendar?15:54
Laneyhttps://wiki.gnome.org/Forty15:54
Laneythe week after that15:54
Laneybut I think you overstate the impact of GLib uploads if you think it's as disruputive as a glibc one :-)15:54
dokoit is, you'll see it only with test rebuilds15:56
seb128is it friday yet?15:56
marcustomlinsonseb128: it's Thursday in Australia at least16:01
seb128marcustomlinson, still not troll day then!16:02
KGB-0gnome-shell ubuntu/master 4eb07e6 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/changelog * Upload to hirsute * https://deb.li/iUnys16:02
seb128marcustomlinson, sorry, in case that was not obvious that was in reply to the libglib being disruptive comment :p16:03
Laneywatch the news, every day is troll day now16:03
Laneytruth is up for debate ;-)16:03
KGB-0gnome-shell signed tags c3e8b0f Gunnar Hjalmarsson ubuntu/3.38.1-1ubuntu2 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.38.1-1ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3En6G16:03
xnoxLaney:  glib tests and migrates fine; but there is ftbfs fallout of variable size due to api changes / macro changes / warnings / errors changes. Having a glib snapshot in an archive test rebuild before glib is uploaded into the archive would be nice.16:05
LaneyI'll upload the alpha and the beta16:06
luna_GunnarHj: any special translation for 21.04 that needs looking at for Swedish? seems not everything is imported yet, or am i wrong then?16:06
KGB-0gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 0653eb3 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/changelog * Upload to groovy * https://deb.li/3GzwV16:10
KGB-0gnome-shell signed tags fb4f8f7 Gunnar Hjalmarsson ubuntu/3.38.1-1ubuntu1.1 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.38.1-1ubuntu1.1 * https://deb.li/3wro116:11
Laneyxnox: I fixed it and added the alpha16:13
Laneymerci for the nudge16:13
Laneyis tight for feature freeze!16:14
xnoxyeah it looks very busy, and given the holidays it looks like we will have a mega blockage in proposed in january.16:31
xnoxlike the thames sewage blob size16:31
LaneyI mean for us trying to get the whole release done in 4 days16:32
Laneyshould try to get at least any transitions out of the way before that I guess16:32
xnoxooooh16:32
xnoxew16:32
Laneyor follow through on my plan to delete feature freeze from the schedule :>16:33
GunnarHjluna: Probably not much new for 21.04 yet, but we do have a backlog. I'll give you some hints privately.16:39
oSoMoNseb128, seen bug #1902915 ?17:39
ubot5bug 1902915 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "(Snap) Cannot add an attachment to the message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190291517:39
KGB-2gdm pristine-tar 19a447a Simon McVittie gdm3_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gdm3_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gdm3_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3PJkV17:41
KGB-2gdm upstream/latest eb1764c Simon McVittie * pushed 5 commits * https://deb.li/sD5117:41
KGB-2gdm tags b1588f5 Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.2 * Upstream version 3.38.2 * https://deb.li/3n8ZN17:41
luna_alright sounds good19:00
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