| callmepk | goood morning | 01:27 |
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| jamesh | hi callmepk | 01:59 |
| callmepk | hey jamesh | 02:01 |
| duflu | Oh hi callmepk and jamesh | 03:02 |
| callmepk | hey duflu | 04:23 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:00 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:07 |
| oSoMoN | good afternoon duflu | 07:07 |
| callmepk | morning oSoMoN | 07:13 |
| * duflu tries bisecting the kernel while also doing regular mutter work and suddenly needs a lot more CPU cores | 07:20 | |
| oSoMoN | hey callmepk | 07:21 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:27 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 07:30 |
| seb128 | hey duflu , how are you? | 07:30 |
| duflu | seb128, another sinus headache, another change in air pressure but otherwise good. You? | 07:30 |
| seb128 | I'm fine, I mostly recovered from my stomach bug now | 07:31 |
| duflu | Sounds like good progress | 07:32 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:33 |
| callmepk | morning seb128 | 07:47 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:59 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 08:01 |
| didrocks | good afternoon duflu | 08:03 |
| marcustomlinson | morning callmepk jamesh duflu oSoMoN seb128 didrocks999 | 08:33 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 08:34 |
| callmepk | morning marcustomlinson didrocks999 | 08:36 |
| didrocks999 | hey marcustomlinson, callmepk | 08:57 |
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| Laney | ahoy | 09:02 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Laney | 09:02 |
| Laney | ^sup marcustomlinson | 09:08 |
| Laney | ^^^ | 09:08 |
| Laney | ^^^^^^^^^ | 09:08 |
| * cpaelzer hands Laney a few more ^ to use | 09:09 | |
| Laney | thanks cpaelzer | 09:10 |
| Laney | was just typing them out in case my ^ key breaks and I need to have a few left around | 09:10 |
| cpaelzer | well corona-time, some gather piles of toilet pager others need some ^ in reserve :-) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson , Laney , callmepk | 09:12 |
| Laney | ah don't remind me of that, first day of the 'second lockdown' here in england today | 09:12 |
| Laney | sup seb128 | 09:12 |
| seb128 | sunny day today! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | also I'm going to get some old fashioned today! | 09:13 |
| * seb128 got pointed to https://github.com/chrisglass/ubuntu-old-fashioned yesterday, sounds like what I needed for my ISO builds experiments | 09:13 | |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 09:14 |
| seb128 | collection of scripts to do ISO building locally the same way they are done in launchpad | 09:14 |
| seb128 | you can even use multipass as a backend | 09:14 |
| callmepk | Morning Laney | 09:15 |
| Laney | hey duflu callmepk | 09:15 |
| Laney | seb128: what are you doing with iso builds? | 09:15 |
| Laney | I tried that script once, didn't make it work for me, maybe it changed since | 09:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, trying to fix the canary build | 09:15 |
| Laney | don't think it had multipass back then even | 09:15 |
| Laney | huh | 09:16 |
| Laney | interesting | 09:16 |
| callmepk | that old fashioned repository is super helpful I have to say, used it to run test WSL and Hyper-V builds | 09:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, we probably want that kind of image for the desktop installer refresh | 09:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, no? | 09:16 |
| didrocks | hey seb128, Laney | 09:16 |
| Laney | ^hey didrocks | 09:17 |
| Laney | WHAT | 09:17 |
| seb128 | mut didrocks! | 09:17 |
| Laney | where are these ^s coming from | 09:17 |
| seb128 | spending the ones you collected earlier? :p | 09:17 |
| * didrocks feels ^^^^ a little bit too much :p | 09:17 | |
| Laney | seb128: I guess we need *an* image there, dunno if that layer stuff was going to be used there, was that decided? | 09:17 |
| Laney | still having a target is nice | 09:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, we need something that's compatible with the subiquity stack | 09:18 |
| seb128 | it was made with that goal in mind and should fit what we need | 09:19 |
| seb128 | anyway it's a v0.1 experiment to get started, we can iterate if needed | 09:19 |
| seb128 | also people seemed ok with the idea but we don't have really experts on the images topic who were interested to give their input or telling us otherwise | 09:21 |
| seb128 | anyyyway, I do plan to play with those scripts today and see if I can get that to work for me :) | 09:22 |
| Laney | ok, I guess I missed the chance to give input, would have asked this question then | 09:24 |
| Laney | good luck! | 09:24 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, the new issue you are commenting on the pango bug seems clearly a gtk one, I think it would make sense to open a new bug there for the segfault, that's a new problem introduced by the recent commit you cherrypicked | 13:53 |
| seb128 | the assertion is from gtkfontchooserwidget | 13:54 |
| seb128 | could be from pango where the code you mentioned is but then can reassign there is wanted | 13:54 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | good morning | 14:42 |
| marcustomlinson | morning hellsworth and kenvandine | 14:42 |
| marcustomlinson | how's america doing today? | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | same as yesterday :) | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | waiting with bated breath.. | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | still nervous :-D | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | very | 14:43 |
| marcustomlinson | i'm hardly as invested and the suspense is killing me | 14:43 |
| marcustomlinson | so I can only imagine | 14:44 |
| marcustomlinson | that came out wrong. I have invested interest in the good of mankind | 14:44 |
| ogra | marcustomlinson, the US is moving from MAGA to MAWA | 14:46 |
| ogra | (amke america wait again) | 14:46 |
| ogra | *make | 14:46 |
| ogra | (and after that hopefilly back to sanity) | 14:47 |
| marcustomlinson | well, hopefully indeed | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth, kenvandine | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | hi oSoMoN (and marcustomlinson ) | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | MAWA - haha well played ogra :) | 14:52 |
| ogra | 😄 | 14:56 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, do you know what the status of the yaru SRU (the one that's blocking the gtk-common-themes update) is? | 14:56 |
| kenvandine | i'll ask | 14:58 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, kenvandine, Trevinho uploaded that to focal a while ago and it's waiting for review, seems like a case where you can nag SRU team. Though Frederik pinged yesterday to ask if we could include https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/2470 as well in the upload so I don't know if that's worth reuploading | 15:01 |
| gitbot | ubuntu issue (Pull request) 2470 in yaru "Focal groovy gtk theme button shadow sync" [Open] | 15:01 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ | 15:02 |
| oSoMoN | thanks seb128 | 15:02 |
| seb128 | np! | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | yeah, taht should be included as well | 15:03 |
| seb128 | I would say get another upload up and then we can nag the SRU team | 15:03 |
| Trevinho | ok | 15:03 |
| seb128 | they always say they are fine being pinged about reviewing things people wait on | 15:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: problem is still that yaru is blocked by the shell saga... | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ah, I didn't know that, they need to go in sync? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | we should get the shell unblocked... | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | seb128: i could revert changes and re-upload but that makes me sad | 15:10 |
| seb128 | no, let's go forward | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | seb128: no there's no dependency actually | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | but yaru team decided that since we included upstream theme fixes, then.... | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | it was considered as part of the gnome change and so blocked for now | 15:11 |
| seb128 | wait? | 15:11 |
| Trevinho | even though such changes are independent by the code change | 15:11 |
| seb128 | can the yaru SRU go before the shell one? | 15:12 |
| seb128 | or would it create some visual problems? | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | no problem at all | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | those are the changes https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/commit/02e00bed590562a8ec67beebfba782643f6ee93d | 15:13 |
| Trevinho | which will fix the visual issues even for previous shell versions, as they are unrelated to the logic changes in js | 15:14 |
| seb128 | k, so why is it blocked on the shell to be sorted out? | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | seb128: well I assume because the changelog mentioned the same SRU bug... | 15:16 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I've uploaded that though | 15:16 |
| Trevinho | seb128: see the discussion here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1896334 | 15:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1896334 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "SRU 3.36.6" [Medium,In progress] | 15:17 |
| Trevinho | I think i explained that at the time | 15:17 |
| Trevinho | not sure the explaination that the changes are actually not connected was in a different discussion though | 15:17 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ah, do we need to mention the other SRU? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | I didn't notice that | 15:19 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, Robie wrote | 15:20 |
| seb128 | 'I don't think it makes sense to proceed with yaru-theme either until this is resolved, since I understand that's based on the gnome-shell update that is not concluded yet.' | 15:20 |
| seb128 | you didn't reply to say that was not true so he probably still assume that | 15:20 |
| Trevinho | well, at the time there was no much pressure in having yaru out... but I think we had a private conversation where i said that | 15:21 |
| seb128 | k, so I think we want yaru unblock and shell moving but that could take a bit more work | 15:21 |
| seb128 | what about you create another bug for yaru only that basically copy the one you just mentioned | 15:21 |
| seb128 | so it's clear they don't need to go together | 15:22 |
| seb128 | reference that in the changelog, include the new fix, upload | 15:22 |
| seb128 | I will go handle the SRU team and getting things unblocked then | 15:22 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ah, you already reuploaded? | 15:23 |
| seb128 | let me see if I can convince a SRU member to approve that | 15:23 |
| Trevinho | yeah, well I can do it again if you remove though | 15:23 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I tried to ping Robie as step 1, let's see | 15:27 |
| Trevinho | ok | 15:27 |
| tseliot | seb128, Wimpress just FYI, I have just uploaded fixes for LP: #1872950 (for groovy and hirsute) | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1872950 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Nvidia 340.108 fails to install with kernels 5.5 onward" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872950 | 15:35 |
| seb128 | tseliot, ah great, thanks! | 15:37 |
| tseliot | yw | 15:37 |
| seb128 | thanks for taking some time to fix that one despite being busy with other things | 15:38 |
| tseliot | :) | 15:39 |
| seb128 | tseliot, I'm updating the 'regression potential' section if that's ok with you, SRU team expect 'what could regress' and not 'low' there and they started being more picky about it | 15:39 |
| tseliot | seb128, sure, thanks | 15:40 |
| seb128 | np! | 15:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks for pushing forward with actual proposed changes on the SRU discussion! | 15:43 |
| Laney | np | 15:43 |
| seb128 | I just crossed some cases of 'low' impact today | 15:43 |
| Laney | I think I saw it back when I wrote that stuff too | 15:46 |
| Laney | good job I had pushed it to Launchpad as I deleted the text on my computer 😬 | 15:46 |
| Laney | need to stop working in ~/temp/ | 15:46 |
| ricotz | hello desktopers | 16:07 |
| ricotz | please retry amd64 tests of liborcus https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#liborcus | 16:08 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, done now | 16:09 |
| ricotz | and firebird3.0 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#firebird3.0 | 16:09 |
| ricotz | and xmlsec1 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#xmlsec1 | 16:09 |
| ricotz | seb128, ty | 16:09 |
| seb128 | & the others | 16:10 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, shouldn't the portal enablement have been automagic with gnome-3-34? | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | yes | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128: why? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I modified thunderbird recent to set it remember? | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | oh, i thought that was to update it to gnome-3-34 from gnome-3-28 | 16:15 |
| seb128 | no, I added env: in the snapcraft | 16:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, anyway, I think that's the issue/fix, https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3356/files | 16:16 |
| gitbot | snapcore issue (Pull request) 3356 in snapcraft "extensions: correctly spell the GTK_USE_PORTAL variable" [Open] | 16:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I just noticed when testing something else than GTK_USE_PORTAL and GTK_USE_PORTALS were set | 16:16 |
| seb128 | using the right spelling should help :) | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | oh my! | 16:17 |
| seb128 | right... | 16:17 |
| marcustomlinson | oh wow | 16:18 |
| marcustomlinson | good find seb128 | 16:19 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, also I guess I can delete the removable-media use from thunderbird if it uses portals? | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | in theory you can also remove home | 16:20 |
| seb128 | in theory only? ;-) | 16:22 |
| marcustomlinson | all software is magic | 16:23 |
| seb128 | I will try that locally first | 16:23 |
| seb128 | hum, how do we handle things like bug #1902915 happening because the portal deb isn't installed? :/ | 16:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1902915 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "(Snap) Cannot add an attachment to the message" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902915 | 16:42 |
| seb128 | I wonder if we should have a dbus api or something that suggest to install on demand when it's missing, was something like that ever discussed? | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | that's been seeded by default since 18.04 | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | it would be nice to install on demand | 17:00 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry, was away for diner & co, it's seeded by only on Ubuntu, what if people install e.g xubuntu? | 19:34 |
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