[00:25] <Wild_Man> Thanks everyone for taking on the task of CC members, it is very much appreciated!:)
[00:25] <teward> Wild_Man: 'tis our job now :)
[00:25] <teward> hopefully things continue on smoothly through to the future :)
[00:26] <Wild_Man> teward, I have faith in all of you, its going to be a good two years
[15:59] <xnox> teward:  emmmm.... what's wrong with mclemence? what can we do to help there?
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:00] <slyon> o/
[16:00] <bdmurray> o/
[16:01] <waveform> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov  5 16:01:14 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:01] <mclemenceau_> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[16:01] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
[16:01] <bdmurray> waveform juliank sil2100 rbalint xnox bdmurray slyon mwhudson vorlon doko tdaitx
[16:01] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:02] <waveform> * Worked (briefly) on userland MIR (LP: #1895137)
[16:02] <waveform> * Investigating bluetooth on Pi400 issue (LP: #1903048)
[16:02] <waveform> * Investigating bluetooth reboot issue (LP: #1901272)
[16:02] <waveform> * Worked on localechooser merge (LP: #1902598)
[16:02] <waveform> * Worked on powerpc-utils merge (LP: #1902520)
[16:02] <waveform> * Worked on u-boot merge (LP: #1903054)
[16:02] <waveform> * Working on flash-kernel merge
[16:02] <waveform> * Experimented with "tryboot" facility in upstream pi firmware
[16:02] <waveform> * Investigated dmesg restriction on Pi images (LP: #1902934)
[16:02] <waveform> (done)
[16:02] <bdmurray> julian is out
[16:02] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[16:03] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[16:03] <sil2100> - Some archive opening smaller tasks
[16:03] <sil2100> - Pushed on verification of google-cloud-sdk in xenial partner-proposed
[16:03] <sil2100> - Verified raspi-config on hirsute on a raspi
[16:03] <sil2100> - Reviewed Lukas's netplan DBus try/apply changes
[16:03] <sil2100> - Worked on ubuntu-drivers user feedback for ubiquity (GTK/KDE) - prepped MP
[16:03] <sil2100> - Discussions regarding netplan and NetworkManager on UC20
[16:03] <sil2100> - Some training
[16:03] <sil2100> - Interviews
[16:03] <sil2100> - HWE meeting
[16:03] <sil2100> - Looked into removing the livecd-rootfs image size hack
[16:03] <sil2100> (done)
[16:03] <bdmurray> rbalint:
[16:03] <rbalint> (short week due to holidays)
[16:03] <rbalint> * SRU verifications: LP: #1896638, LP: #1898087
[16:03] <rbalint> * filed LP: #1902260
[16:03] <rbalint> * synced libpam-krb5 to drop obsolete delta
[16:03] <rbalint> * merged libverto
[16:03] <rbalint> * sponsored user-setup
[16:03] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
[16:03] <rbalint> (done)
[16:03] <sil2100> Oh oh! Right! Forgot:
[16:04] <sil2100>  * Merged fontconfig
[16:04] <sil2100> (done now)
[16:04] <sil2100> ;)
[16:04] <xnox> remember remember
[16:04] <xnox> the 5th of november
[16:04] <xnox> gunpowder, treason, and plot
[16:04] <xnox> uploaded groovy livecd-rootfs SRU with fixes for all the things (hyperv, cpc, vmdk, riscv64)
[16:04] <xnox> uploaded merges harfbuzz, libdebian-installer, os-prober
[16:04] <xnox> boost1.74 will need a merge; and the possibly do 1.74 transition in Ubuntu
[16:04] <xnox> UC22 most things work now, but no kernel track & consoleconf is borked
[16:04] <xnox> verifying grub2 sru; preparing to upload more SRUs
[16:04] <xnox> done
[16:05] <bdmurray> SRU verification of LP: #1899195, LP: #1901377
[16:05] <bdmurray> merged and uploaded tdaitx's update-notifier fix for LP: #1821412
[16:05] <bdmurray> merged a contributor's patch to update-manager
[16:05] <bdmurray> uploaded an apport change which fixes LP: #1870060
[16:05] <bdmurray> merged RPi 400 meta-release change from waveform
[16:05] <bdmurray> moved the rest of ubuntu-archive-tools to python3
[16:05] <bdmurray> modifications to the phased-updater to respect manual zero-ing
[16:05] <bdmurray> updated daisy / oops-repository to use a TTL w/ snap crashes
[16:05] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:05] <bdmurray> slyon:
[16:05] <tdaitx> thanks for that bdmurray
[16:05] <slyon> - Got cloud-init MAAS/OVS fix merged upstream, bug #1898997
[16:05] <slyon> - Merged lshw, bug #1902515
[16:05] <slyon> - Prepared user-setup merge, bug #1902533
[16:05] <slyon> - Improved python-s3transfer versioning, bug #1880999
[16:05] <slyon> - Trying to collect MOTU endorsements
[16:05] <slyon> [16:05] <slyon> - Wrote initial NetworkManager spec, for new netplan backend
[16:05] <slyon> - Reviewed & merged per-route MTU, bug #1860201
[16:05] <slyon> - Merged 'netplan try' DBus commands, PR#134
[16:05] <slyon> - Working on DBus config state management, PR#170
[16:05] <slyon> (done)
[16:06] <bdmurray> steve is out
[16:06] <bdmurray> doko:
[16:06] <doko> - first hirsute release party (Team Europe leading)
[16:06] <doko> - some hundred uploads for the ocaml transition
[16:06] <doko> - random uploads and fixes
[16:06] <doko> - python 3.9 related package removals
[16:06] <doko> - gdb 10.1
[16:06] <doko> - installer fun: LP: #1902855, LP: #1902845
[16:06] <doko> - gave back all failed builds in hirsute-proposed
[16:06] <doko> - gdb SRU
[16:06] <doko> - two more iterations for the armhf issue triggered by gcc-10
[16:07] <doko> - started +1 maintenance days
[16:07] <doko> s/release/merge/
[16:07] <doko> (done)
[16:07] <tdaitx> * verified sru's for openjfx and mediathekview, thanks bdmurray and sil2100! (now how about that delicious scilab sru?)
[16:07]  * tdaitx hides
[16:07] <tdaitx> * jck-11 finally running on lxc
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - ran out of disk space, limiting runs to bionic/focal (but groovy and hirsute also work fine)
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - plugins are installed, so adapting jobs to use them
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - refactoring scripts from jobs into self-contained scripts in the snap
[16:07] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11/hirsute build failed on armhf, no logs, retried succesfully
[16:07] <tdaitx> * openjdk-8/hirsute blocked on libreoffice test error, retrying again
[16:07] <teward> xnox: flappy client
[16:07] <tdaitx> * uploaded jtreg with fix so jtdiff will accept summary report files not necessarily named summary.txt, planning on backporting it to focal to use in the jck snap
[16:07] <tdaitx> Other:
[16:07] <tdaitx> - watching the mailing list and waiting for the regression fixes for openjdk-8 and 11
[16:07] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:07] <bdmurray> any questions on status?
[16:08] <bdmurray> . .. ...
[16:08] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[16:08] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:09] <bdmurray> bug 1902025
[16:09] <bdmurray> xnox ^ I found where this comes from
[16:10] <bdmurray> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/view/head:/UpdateManager/Core/UpdateList.py#L385
[16:10] <xnox> oooh
[16:11] <bdmurray> I guess we should probably take this as it doesn't look great.
[16:11] <xnox> i want to take that bug please.
[16:11] <bdmurray> Would you SRU it?
[16:11] <mclemenceau_> ok I'll card it
[16:11] <xnox> bdmurray:  or yeah, whoever takes that, they need to crosscorelate with seeds which list all of th enew kernel package names. I see lots that are missing.
[16:11] <bdmurray> Then I guess bug 1902855 is the one doko mentioned
[16:12] <doko> yes
[16:12] <bdmurray> xnox: Maybe we should add that to some release check list too
[16:13] <bdmurray> The other 2 on rls-hh we've looked at previously
[16:14] <xnox> bdmurray:  i don't know
[16:14] <doko> tdaitx: instead of retrying, please file a britney bug, that this test shouldn't be triggered
[16:14] <bdmurray> okay, let's card that as it is "interesting"
[16:14] <mclemenceau_> ok
[16:14] <xnox> bdmurray:  maybe we should talk to kernel team to have them have a checklist of what needs doing on kernel flavour adding.... cause there are seeds; sru-reports; kernel-sru tooling; update-manager; etc.
[16:14] <xnox> autopkgtests
[16:14] <xnox> all of them have to learn which things are kernels.....
[16:15] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:15] <bdmurray> xnox: If that's part of their process cool
[16:15] <bdmurray> Is there any update on bug 1890435?
[16:15] <xnox> bdmurray:  >_< *giggle* no i don't think it is, but imho it should be. =)
 - two more iterations for the armhf issue triggered by gcc-10
[16:16] <bdmurray> got it, thanks
[16:16] <bdmurray> bug 1848829
[16:16] <tdaitx> doko: I am/was not sure that their tests are invalid for openjdk (so that removing the trigger is needed), it's just that libreoffice autopkgtests are flaky and they didn't see to be failing due to openjdk, thus the retry
[16:17] <bdmurray> so these people installed the pip version of distro-info which is super old and missing stuff
[16:17] <doko> tdaitx: nothing uses anything else besides the default jre/jdk
[16:17] <xnox> is the distro-info thing similar to "do not use /usr/local" for upgrades?
[16:17] <xnox> as in, do not use pip-installed stuff during upgrades?
[16:17] <bdmurray> yeah, I wonder if the path isn't set properly
[16:17] <xnox> or rather clensed.
[16:18] <tdaitx> doko: duh, of course... I will file the bug for that, thanks
[16:18] <xnox> there is python argument one can pass to ensure the app starts ignoring environment passed path
[16:18] <xnox> such that probably ubuntu-release-upgrader should run by #!/usr/bin/python3 -E or whatever the flag was
[16:18] <xnox> -E     Ignore environment variables like PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME that
[16:18] <xnox>               modify the behavior of the interpreter.
[16:18] <xnox> -E     Ignore environment variables like PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME that
[16:18] <xnox>               modify the behavior of the interpreter.
[16:18] <xnox> bah, soory.
[16:19] <bdmurray> So that would likely help in more situations than just distro-info correct?
[16:19] <xnox> yes
[16:19] <bdmurray> that seems worth doing then as it could fix a lot of stuff we aren't aware of
[16:19] <bdmurray> so let's take that
[16:20] <bdmurray> mclemenceau_: can you card that?
[16:20] <bdmurray> bug 1902260
[16:21] <mclemenceau_> yes sir
[16:24] <bdmurray> so let's work with CPC on that
[16:25] <bdmurray> bug 1898342
[16:26] <bdmurray> xnox: there's a response there
[16:26] <xnox> ooh
[16:26] <bdmurray> so maybe the tests are wrong?
[16:27] <bdmurray> that seems good for rls-gg
[16:27] <xnox> bdmurray:  maybe confirmed.
[16:27] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:27] <bdmurray> bug 1902760
[16:27] <xnox> bdmurray:  well, not sure we can do rls-gg can we? given we will not respin groovy point release, are we?
[16:28] <bdmurray> xnox: there could be a special point release in our future! you never know
[16:29] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/intel/+bug/1902760
[16:29] <xnox> doko:  ^
[16:30] <rbalint> +1 for later?
[16:30] <bdmurray> let's leave that tagged then
[16:31] <bdmurray> bug 1895358
[16:33] <bdmurray> that's it for bugs then
[16:33] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:33] <bdmurray> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:35] <bdmurray> I'll look at ubuntu-release-upgrader
[16:35] <bdmurray> Let's individually take a look at the list and see if there is anything we can help out with.
[16:35] <slyon> I think netplan.io / pyyaml is flaky and should be retried
[16:36] <bdmurray> Can someboyd do that for slyon ?
[16:36] <sil2100> o/
[16:36] <slyon> ty
[16:36] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[16:37] <sil2100> (retried)
[16:37] <bdmurray> I'm taking a half day tomorrow
[16:37] <bdmurray> Also next Wednesday is a US holiday, but I'm swapping that as having a Wednesday off seems weird
[16:38] <bdmurray> anything else?
[16:38] <bdmurray> Okay, thanks everybody.
[16:38] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[16:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov  5 16:38:40 2020 UTC.
[16:38] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-05-16.01.moin.txt
[16:38] <sil2100> Thanks!
[16:38] <sil2100> o/
[16:38] <rbalint> o/
[16:38] <mclemenceau_> o/
[16:38] <slyon> o/
[19:59] <Wild_Man> Hi philroche, you here?
[20:00] <philroche> Wild_Man: \o
[20:00] <Wild_Man> Will all Ubuntu Membership Board Members please check in?
[20:00] <diddledan> ping o/
[20:01] <wxl> here
[20:02] <tsimonq2> o/
[20:02] <diddledan> \o
[20:02] <Wild_Man> Hi diddledan wxl tsimonq2
[20:03] <bashfulrobot> 0/
[20:03] <bashfulrobot> Holy, tsimonq2 is alive!
[20:03] <bashfulrobot> heheh
[20:03] <Wild_Man> Is everyone ready to get the meeting started
[20:03] <tsimonq2> I apparently exist, yes.
[20:03] <tsimonq2> :)
[20:03] <bashfulrobot> good stuff!
[20:03] <bashfulrobot> wxl: yeah
[20:03] <Wild_Man> I was not sure for a while tsimonq2
[20:03] <tsimonq2> Yeah, it keeps getting crazy
[20:04] <Wild_Man> #startmeeting 20:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[20:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov  5 20:04:01 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wild_Man. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:05] <Wild_Man> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting!
[20:05] <Wild_Man> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting.
[20:05] <Wild_Man> If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[20:05] <Wild_Man> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[20:05] <Wild_Man> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[20:06] <Wild_Man> #topic philroche
[20:07] <Wild_Man> philroche , please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki
[20:07] <philroche> Hi all, I am a software engineer based in Ireland, I have been using Ubuntu since 2005 and I have been working for Canonical Ltd. since May 2016 on the Canonical Public Cloud team delivering Ubuntu images to public clouds.
[20:07] <philroche> I have been contributing to Ubuntu as part of my day job at Canonical which allows me to touch many parts of Ubuntu for the cloud. My goal as a member is to continue to do so and also contribute to parts of Ubuntu that are not specific to the cloud images.
[20:07] <philroche> My wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/philroche
[20:07] <philroche> My LP page is https://launchpad.net/~philroche
[20:10] <bashfulrobot> philroche: what are the other areas of Ubuntu that interest you outside of the cloud images?
[20:12] <philroche> bashfulrobot: I have an interest in python packaging, snap packaging, testing, multipass and nvidia drivers
[20:12] <philroche> And promoting Ubuntu to all that I meet :)
[20:12] <wxl> philroche: you were contributing before joining canonical i presume?
[20:13] <tsimonq2> philroche: What are your favorite and least favorite parts about Ubuntu? (Preferably not related to your experience as a Canonical employee. :) )
[20:14] <philroche> wxl: Not in a direct way via code contributions but via testing, blog posts and helping on forums etc.
[20:14] <philroche> tsimonq2: Favorite is package manager and least favorite is graphics drivers
[20:15] <wxl> philroche: sounds pretty direct to me :)
[20:15] <bashfulrobot> that's cool. It's not always about code ( too rarely code). 👍
[20:15] <tsimonq2> Fair enough, thanks.
[20:15] <tsimonq2> No more questions from me, my vote is pretty clear.
[20:16] <diddledan> my questions have all been asked by everyone else.... ;-p
[20:16] <Wild_Man> I have no questions they are all answered
[20:16] <wxl> i'm good
[20:17] <Wild_Man> Ready to vote?
[20:17] <wxl> yep
[20:17] <bashfulrobot> I am actually good to votye
[20:17] <bashfulrobot> I am actually good to vote
[20:18] <Wild_Man> #voters Wild_Man diddledan bashfulrobot wxl tsimonq2
[20:18] <meetingology> Current voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot diddledan tsimonq2 wxl
[20:18] <bashfulrobot> +1
[20:18] <Wild_Man> #vote philroche  membership
[20:18] <meetingology> Please vote on: philroche  membership
[20:18] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:18] <Wild_Man> +1
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 received from Wild_Man
[20:18] <bashfulrobot> +1
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 received from bashfulrobot
[20:18] <wxl> +1 why did it take you so long? :) keep up the good work
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 why did it take you so long? :) keep up the good work received from wxl
[20:18] <bashfulrobot> Jumped the gun there
[20:18] <bashfulrobot> hahaa
[20:19] <diddledan> +1 Great application. Shows lots of good work, and your testimonials are solid! Keep being epic!
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 Great application. Shows lots of good work, and your testimonials are solid! Keep being epic! received from diddledan
[20:19] <bashfulrobot> ( I did with my vote)
[20:19] <tsimonq2> +1
[20:19] <meetingology> +1 received from tsimonq2
[20:19] <Wild_Man> #endvote
[20:19] <meetingology> Voting ended on: philroche  membership
[20:19] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:19] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:20] <philroche> Awesome. Thank you all
[20:20] <Wild_Man> Congrats philroche
[20:20] <bashfulrobot> wlecome!
[20:20] <bashfulrobot> welcome!
[20:20] <Wild_Man> Thank you for all the hard work you do
[20:20] <bashfulrobot> And thanks for your time today as well
[20:21] <philroche> \o/ Happy to help
[20:21] <Wild_Man> I will get you added in a few minutes
[20:21] <philroche> +1
[20:22] <Wild_Man> #endmeeting
[20:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov  5 20:22:18 2020 UTC.
[20:22] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-05-20.04.moin.txt
[20:23] <rcj> Congrats philroche!!!
[20:23] <philroche> rcj: :)
[20:24] <Odd_Bloke> philroche: \o/
[20:26] <philroche> Odd_Bloke: +1
[20:26] <Wild_Man> philroche, you have been added