[00:58] <signofzeta> i don't have that issue, coreyhuinker, but i have something similar on 20.04.1.  sometimes, a small rectangle of transparent static appears on my screen and doesn't go away.  it's also not available in screenshots.
[01:01] <signofzeta> coreyhuinker: what kind of video card do you have?  I have an AMD Radeon RX 480, and switching to the closed-source amdgpu drivers fixed it.
[01:57] <MannyLNJ> I am om 20.04 and want to update to 20.10 I did a sudo do-release-upgrade . The system gers groovy.tar.gz then then the installer crashes out. Any help would be appreciated
[02:04] <MannyLNJ> A full log of the errors can be found at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fb6BfqwQJJ/
[02:11] <sarnold> MannyLNJ: try unconfiguring all your PPAs, then give it another shot
[02:14] <MannyLNJ> sarnold, I will thank you
[02:16] <sarnold> MannyLNJ: woo, is it working?
[02:17] <MannyLNJ> sarnold, I disabled all non Cannotical PPA's and it still failed. Now disabling all all
[02:18] <MannyLNJ> sarnold, Nope still crashes and burns
[02:22] <sarnold> MannyLNJ: dang. :( my next suggestion is to file a bug with ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade   -- that will collect some logs for the bug report
[02:24] <MannyLNJ> When I do ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade It comes back with The Problem cannot be reported: This report is about a package that is not installed
[02:24] <^omn1present^> hello
[02:24] <sarnold> ugh, I thought it could look up program names..
[02:24] <^omn1present^> :flushed:
[02:24] <rfm> MannyLNJ, after disabling the ppas did you do "apt update; apt full-upgrade"?  if not try that before do-release=upgrade again
[02:24] <sarnold> MannyLNJ: try ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core  ?
[02:30] <MannyLNJ> rfm, I did not. Just tried it and same issue. sarnold I sent the report
[02:33] <sarnold> hmm, bugger, I don't see his report on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bugs?orderby=-date_last_updated&start=0
[02:42] <coreyhuinker> signofzeta: sorry, stepped away. I have a Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Desktop)
[02:44] <coreyhuinker> signofzeta: I had read that doing an apt purge of xserver-xorg-video-intel solves it, but I tried wayland first
[03:02] <signofzeta> coreyhuinker: it's fine, I leave Weechat open mostly 24/7. i guess you have a different problem, but it's somewhat similar to my annoyance.
[03:14] <pytorch> Anyone running WSL + ubuntu 20 here? I'm looking to tunnel all my traffic through a ethernet port on windows host - any ideas how?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> !wsl | pytorch
[04:01] <ZeZu> after upgrade to groovy I have no audio,  Advanced tab shows built-in audio profile , but devices is empty except for hmdi output I don't use.   alsamixer shows my device,  checked all usual suspects and dmesg shows device being enabled / setup,  reinstalled/restared alsa && pulse,  still nothing
[04:04] <sarnold> ZeZu: this is a wild shot in the dark, is pipewire installed?
[04:04] <ZeZu> yes
[04:04] <ZeZu> appears so
[04:06] <sarnold> heh, now I don't know what to suggest .. first things first I guess, check journalctl output?
[04:06] <ZeZu> nothing stands out
[04:08] <sarnold> ZeZu: so... with the caveat that this is *horrible* advice .. maybe try apt-get remove pipewire, reboot, see how things work out. Keep track of which packages were removed so you can re-install them again when this doesn't help anything and I look like a fool.
[04:09] <ZeZu> ok i'll check that ,  i was wrong about journalctl there are errors from pulseaudio i just found ,  Cannot send block reference with non-registered memfd ID = 2799396871
[04:10] <ZeZu> not exactly a huge help, but any error with a memfd means something isn't getting a descriptor
[04:13] <sarnold> that might be a  better string to pull on
[04:13] <ZeZu> no clue what it's in reference to or how to fix it though
[04:13] <ZeZu> just that something in pulse is not happy
[05:25] <RadSurfer> CAN SOMEONE please explain if it is possible to have Ubuntu 20.04 actually play a startup wave?
[06:08] <leaftype> RadSurfer: you mean just a startup sound like they used to have some years ago?
[06:09] <leaftype> probably too late, but this might help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1232364/how-to-enable-startup-sound-on-ubuntu-20-04
[06:10] <RadSurfer> yeah, I did discover that already :)
[06:10] <RadSurfer> have not attempted it.
[09:17] <Syzygy> I updated ubuntu 18 LTS to 20 LTS this week. Now I noticed that some stuff is broken, in particular gcloud and gsutil (both part of the google toolchain
[09:20] <Syzygy> Now I'm a bit in a broken state. I tried to reinstall the google cloud sdk by following this install guide https://cloud.google.com/sdk/docs/install#deb , but on the apt-get install part I get stuck on E: Conflicting values set for option Signed-By regarding source https://packages.cloud.google.com/apt/ cloud-sdk: /usr/share/keyrings/cloud.google.gpg !=
[09:20] <Syzygy> Any idea on how to solve that?
[09:23] <Syzygy> Ok, nevermind I solved it
[10:03] <meyou> my default route keeps resetting to an old bogus one and i have no idea where it's getting it from
[10:04] <meyou> running server 16.04.04 LTS
[10:04] <meyou> just one nic, static ip, gateway set in /etc/network/interfaces seems to be ignored
[10:05] <meyou> but the ip/subnet/etc is set properly
[10:07] <meyou> is there some other spot that might be setting my 'default' route and overriding the interfaces file?
[10:11] <mgedmin> meyou: anything in the logs?  any rogue dhcp clients running?  any VPNs?
[10:11] <mgedmin> any alternative network management systems installed (networkmanager, systemd-networkd, netplan.io)?
[10:12] <meyou> i have dhcpcd but no interfaces set for dhcp
[10:19] <meyou> hrm killing dhcpcd worked...sort of
[10:19] <meyou> for some reason after killing/disabling it and then restarting networking
[10:19] <meyou> everything was working fine but ifconfig was showing an incorrect ip/subnet
[10:19] <meyou> but the machine was accessible on the real address defined in interfaces file
[10:20] <meyou> rebooted the box and now ifconfig is reporting properly and everything's good...but odd
[12:41] <jim> hi, what kernels are available to install in 20.04 lts?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:18] <neteffect> hello when i print from brave browser in ubuntu, i get black pages with white text.
[13:19] <Toadisattva> weird, do you have dark mode on? maybe try in light mode?
[13:20] <elias_a> 20.04 Deja-dup asks repeatedly for backup password during testing of the backup set. Anyone else with this problem?
[13:20] <neteffect> ok yes i have tried that.  i will look again
[13:24] <Toadisattva> maybe also try printing to a pdf and see if it gives the same effect, that will at least let you determine if it's an issue with the browser or something at the printer settings level
[13:26] <neteffect> ok will be back
[13:31] <jim> which kernel is in the bullseye netinstall? alternatively, what's the default kernel for bullseye?
[13:31] <jim> oops, sorry, that's debian stuff
[13:47] <speltner> I'd have a question regarding Ubuntu 20.04.1LTS's audio options: How can I set the sample rate to 48KHz and bit depth to 24bit, which should be the default digital output quality from my soundcard, right now it's at 44.1KHz and 16bit which makes it sound terribly bit-squeezed as I'm running it through another external audio unit that expects 48KHz in
[13:48] <speltner> I've tried meddling with pulseaudio's config
[13:49] <speltner> (a.k.a. changing the sample rate to 48000 from there as well as the bit dept to 24bit) -- that didn't do much tho, or the setting got somehow overriden / reverted on reboot.
[13:51] <ducasse> speltner: for audio questions you might have better luck in #ubuntustudio
[13:58] <Kon> speltner: Those settings exist in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, or ~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf for user-specific settings changes
[13:59] <Kon> You would need to restart pulse with pulseaudio -k for the new settings to take effect
[14:21] <speltner> Kon: alright I'll take a look, yep that's what I can recall now that it might be the case that there's the user-specific + global settings and both need to be set.
[14:21] <speltner> Kon: Thank you! ^___^
[14:23] <speltner> Kon: ... except that there's no daemon config file in my ~/.config/pulse directory for some reason. It does exist, the dir, along with a bunch of .tdb files and a cookie-file, but the config is not there.... Hmm
[14:24] <nuala> how would one remove window decorations in 20.04 both xprop commands in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/420452/how-to-hide-title-bar-for-a-specific-window and comment-mentionened AU question seem to have no effect (also rather looking for 'catch em all' approach but single clicks would be nice as well)
[14:25] <speltner> Kon: ... and the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf is already set to 48KHz/24bit. Could it be i.e. "resample-method" that's the culprit
[14:25] <Kon> speltner: The user config is optional, not required. You would create it by copy-pasting from the system config
[14:26] <Kon> speltner: You need to make sure your changes are not commented out. Make sure the option is at the beginning of the line and you remove the ;
[14:26] <speltner> Kon: I found a Reddit post with the title "PSA: Change default sh*tty Pulseaudio settings for better sound quality" (the censored word was uncensored in the title), it seems to address that exact issue
[14:26] <speltner> Kon: I think I'll see where that leads me, it immediately pointed out to the resample-method etc.
[14:27] <Kon> speltner: The resample method should be for inputs. Are you trying to run through another device?
[14:32] <nuala> re me: could be a themeing thing https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117936 ~~~ just grep 'has_title' nor find iname '*xml* returned anything in themes dir oO
[14:34] <manuels8> hi
[14:34] <manuels8> what is this Ubuntu gettext domain
[14:43] <mgedmin> manuels8: in what context?
[14:49] <neteffect> hi when i print from chrome,opera,chromium,brave, i get black page and white text, when i print from ff,text editor, word processor, i get regular black text on white page.
[14:50] <neteffect> i have uninstalled brave.  i have reinstalled deb driver from brother and reinstalled printer.
[14:51] <neteffect> I don't know if i should research flashing the firmware on the printer.
[14:52] <neteffect> should i uninstall the chrome and chromium
[14:52] <neteffect> i hope i dont have to reinstall ubuntu
[15:13] <havv> hi, what is the simplest way to allow access to a virtual machine created with libvirt to other computers in the same network?
[15:13] <mgedmin> use bridged networking
[15:14] <havv> mgedmin, I use a bridge, but I can't add my wifi device to the bridge (is that what I should do?)
[15:15] <mgedmin> hmm good question, I did that on a server that uses wired ethernet
[15:16] <Deyaa> Does anyone has a copy of maxmimd enterprise??
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> Deyaa: this is the ubuntu support channel, we dont exchange software here
[15:17] <fling> Is there an ubuntu kernel tree with 5.10 ?
[15:18] <mgedmin> there's a ppa with mainline kernels for testing somewhere, not sure if it has 5.10 yet
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | fling here
[15:19] <fling> mgedmin: I need a git repo
[15:21] <Deyaa> Ok thanks
[15:24] <fling> lotuspsychje: the page you linked says this >> A mirror of Linus' tree is available from git://kernel.ubuntu.com/virgin/linux.git.
[15:25] <fling> lotuspsychje: but I want one with ubuntu patches
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> fling: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> fling: mainline kernels are for testing purposes, what exactly are you trying to solve?
[15:32] <fling> lotuspsychje: want to extracth shiftfs and unionfs patches and anything else related to lxd
[15:32] <fling> or is it overlayfs
[15:36] <ogra> fling, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux
[15:36] <fling> ogra: thanks!
[15:37] <ogra> actually https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/+git might be a better starting point
[15:37] <fling> ogra: #ubuntu-kernel said it is https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/unstable/
[15:37] <ogra> thats the next gen one
[15:38] <fling> what is next gen?
[15:38] <fling> I want 5.10
[15:38] <ogra> the second url i gave above has the per-relese trees
[15:38] <ogra> next-gen -> upcoming next version
[15:39] <ogra> so then you are correct with unstable for 5.10
[15:39] <fling> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/unstable has 5.10 in it
[15:39] <fling> ogra: thanks :>
[16:06] <fling> ogra: how to flip a symbol in defconfig for every architecture?
[16:06] <fling> Is there some default symbol value file somewhere?
[16:07] <ogra> better ask the kernel team ... i have only built snap packages of kernels for the last few years (where it is a *lot* easier to adjust such stuff)
[16:08] <fling> ogra: which channel is the best to ask about this?
[16:08] <ogra> there are scripts in the debian dir and some common default defconfig settings too
[16:08] <fling> ##linux does not give me any answers
[16:08] <ogra> #ubuntu-kernel is where the kernel team hangs out
[16:13] <jkg> I'm struggling to get the built in camera in my laptop working, under Ubuntu 20.10 (also 20.04, but I upgraded along the way to trying to fix it). 'lsusb' finds it just fine, but there's no /dev/video0 file created and no applications can find the camera. dmesg output when I enable the camera via keyboard shortcut looks like this:
[16:13] <jkg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kZ2fsKrm9g/ and the relevant part of lsusb -v output looks like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kwVhTcz3yX/
[16:14] <jkg> apologies if I'm asking in entirely the wrong place!
[16:34] <pavlos> jkg: do you see uvcvideo entries in dmesg?
[16:36] <jkg> pavlos: yeah, whenever I load the uvcvideo module or reenable the camera, I get this block of mostly error messages in dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kZ2fsKrm9g/
[16:41] <ioria> jkg, sudo modprobe -v -r uvcvideo   and  then  sudo modprobe -v uvcvideo quirks=2
[16:44] <jkg> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QXStzC7rtb/ but identical results in dmesg
[16:45] <ioria> jkg, what kernel ?
[16:45] <ioria> ha, sy
[16:47] <jkg> ioria: 5.8.0-26-generic, just the one that shipped with ubuntu 20.10 by default, nothing exciting or weird
[16:47] <ioria> jkg, yeah; you can try to change the 'quirks' value to 1, 3 or 5.
[16:50] <jkg> I haven't tried every possible quirks value, but I've now tried 1, 3, 5, 7 on the basis that it's the superset of 5 and 3, and 15 because I'd seen 8 suggested elsewhere for a similar issue... same outcome
[16:52] <ioria> jkg, sy, no other ideas
[16:52] <jkg> no problem, thanks for looking at it :)
[16:53] <ioria> jkg, you can change/upgrade kernel obviuosly
[16:54] <jkg> yeah, it wasn't working on 5.4 either, but if need be I can try something less stock. I'm sincerely hoping to avoid returning to the days of compiling my own, then
[16:55] <ioria> jkg,  what if you install guvcview and open it ?
[16:55] <jkg> "no video device found"
[17:10] <coreyhuinker> upgraded to 20.10, switched to wayland to avoid  a weird flickering triangle issue. discord snap now segfaults. dbeaver-ce snap can't find the DISPLAY, won't start either. anybody else had these problems?
[17:13] <coreyhuinker> interestingly, slack snap seems to work fine
[17:30] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, if your software is specifically written for X you can have problems running them under Wayland
[17:30] <BarnabasDK> utilities like Tilda console and Plank launcher are other good examples
[17:31] <tomreyn> does any software which comes with ubuntu cause problems?
[17:32] <coreyhuinker> since switching to 20.10+wayland, i've had flawless luck with virtualbox (not a snap), the slack snap works perfectly
[17:33] <coreyhuinker> signal-desktop, discord both segfault
[17:33] <coreyhuinker> dbeaver-ce runs, but logs that it can't find the display
[17:34] <tomreyn> this sounds like a "no"
[17:34] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, I have also had problems with qemu/virtualization under wayland
[17:35] <BarnabasDK> if the image needs anything more than a text console
[17:35] <coreyhuinker> i'd switch back to xorg, but i was getting these funny flickering triangles made of short horizontal dashes and more horizontal dashes on any screen change. i tried to capture it with screen recorder, but it didn't show up in the recording
[17:37] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, what hardware (gpu) and driver are you using
[17:38] <coreyhuinker> Intel 630
[17:38] <coreyhuinker> $ lspci | grep VGA
[17:38] <coreyhuinker> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Desktop)
[17:39] <BarnabasDK> was it a clean install or an upgrade of ubuntu?
[17:40] <BarnabasDK> maybe something did not update correctly
[17:40] <coreyhuinker> upgrade from 20.04
[17:40] <BarnabasDK> you could try to reinstall the intel driver
[17:40] <coreyhuinker> there was a suggestion of doing an apt purge of the xorg intel driver
[17:40] <BarnabasDK> sudo apt-get update
[17:40] <BarnabasDK> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-core
[17:41] <BarnabasDK> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:41] <BarnabasDK> reboot
[17:41] <coreyhuinker> i'll give it a whirl, but i'll obviously have to log off to see if it worked.
[17:41] <BarnabasDK> yes
[17:42] <moonfmdesire> Hello. I am trying to copy a drive that has 1.4 tb of data and over 13 hours later, it is still not copied.
[17:42] <moonfmdesire> The port is USB 3.0 from a performance drive to a baracuda drive
[17:42] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, generally the Intel drivers are the best for ubuntu to my experience
[17:42] <moonfmdesire> The transfer speeds keep dropping to about 4 mb/s
[17:43] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK: ok, rebooting, c u in a bit
[17:44] <moonfmdesire> It is still not copies and had to reboot my machine because the process dissapeared
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: did you drag n drop or use dd?
[17:44] <moonfmdesire> copy and paste
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: what speed did nautilus show?
[17:45] <moonfmdesire> I am not eager to wait 24 hours for another attempt and likely failure
[17:45] <moonfmdesire> 4 mbs
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: yeah, thats not much
[17:47] <moonfmdesire> Is there a way I can tell the transfer, please resume impartial and non existent copies and leave the ones that are already copies?
[17:47] <moonfmdesire> copied
[17:48] <moonfmdesire> Or do I have to recopy the whole damn drive?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: well if the speed is constantly dropping i would suggest dragging data per folder(s) instead of the whole disk, whats done is done
[17:50] <moonfmdesire> There is no way for the computer to check? I have to check?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: is this an external baracuda, or with a 3.0 usb dock or enclosure?
[17:50] <moonfmdesire> It is a port that can handle usb 3.0
[17:51] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK: discord and dbeaver-ce work on regular xorg. i've reinstalled and reconfigured the driver per your instructions. now it's just a matter of letting the monitor go to sleep to see if the funky triangles thing comes back
[17:51] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK: so if you're on in a half hour/hour, i'll update you on that
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: i mean the baracuda, is it an internal hd, external or an usb dock you are transfering data on?
[17:52] <moonfmdesire> It is a dock that has usb 3.0
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: wich brand please
[17:53] <moonfmdesire> Does a usb 3.0 dock inhibit usb 3.0 ports?
[17:53] <soft_concrete> Hi, I'm getting this when I try to run chromium: https://hastebin.com/qakenexuyu.txt What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
[17:53] <moonfmdesire> barracuda, please.
[17:54] <moonfmdesire> lotuspsychje, Never you mind
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: seagate baracuda is a HD brand
[17:54] <moonfmdesire> Yes, the brand names prohbit transfer speeds?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> moonfmdesire: the more info you give to volunteers, the better we can help you
[17:55] <moonfmdesire> lotuspsychje, I do not think I need this kind of help.
[17:55] <moonfmdesire> I use this dock for video editing files, it is fast enough.
[17:56] <moonfmdesire> There is something up with Ubuntu that is dropping the transfer rate
[17:56] <moonfmdesire> And I am not running any other process
[17:56] <moonfmdesire> Just one thing, copy the damned drive
[17:57] <moonfmdesire> Which it cannot do
[17:59] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, what version of ubuntu are you using
[18:00] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I'm using Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS. 64-bit processor (intel i5-5300)
[18:01] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, could you do a snap list and binpaste the output?
[18:03] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: here it is: https://hastebin.com/fitodisewa.txt
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, that looks perfect. I think you need to install / reinstall that module:
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> sudo apt install --reinstall libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> and restart all chromium processes
[18:06] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I'm getting the same errors as before
[18:06] <soft_concrete> Maybe a good old fashioned reboot will fix something, who knows. Be righ back.
[18:07] <WaltS48> An update to Thunderbird 68.10.0 coming soon?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> WaltS48: you can try the thunderbird snap if you like
[18:13] <soft_concrete> No luck. I'm still getting the same errors as before. I tried removing the Brave browser and rebooting, thinking that I haven't used Chromium since I installed that, but that did not work, either.
[18:13] <soft_concrete> I just did a software update as well
[18:13] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, chromium along with other software has moved from apt to snap
[18:13] <BarnabasDK> another installation tool
[18:14] <soft_concrete> I'm aware
[18:14] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, so I am trying to figure out how to reinstall the snap package containing chromium :-D
[18:14] <WaltS48> lotuspsychje: Knew that already. I could also change distros. Ubuntu is way behind the rest of the distributions in updating to 78.4.0. They can wait a little longer as I'm testing the 78.4.1 release candidate now.
[18:14] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I think I know how to do that. I'll reinstall it right now.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !latest | WaltS48
[18:15] <WaltS48> There are security updates!
[18:20] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I did "sudo snap remove chromium" and "sudo snap install chromium" and I still get the same error messages. I did try Googling this problem, and the proposed solutions I've looked at also did not work
[18:21] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, it sounds almost as if you have the 32 bit version of chromium installed somehow
[18:21] <BarnabasDK> that would not be able to link the 64 bit libraries
[18:21] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: that would... make sense. One of the suggestions I saw related to that
[18:21] <soft_concrete> On stack exchange (well Ask Ubuntu)
[18:22] <BarnabasDK> you could check the chromium executable with "file"
[18:22] <BarnabasDK> or maybe two versions of chrome installed at once in different locations on your pc
[18:23] <BarnabasDK> and when you execute from your terminal - you find another version than the one snap installed
[18:23] <BarnabasDK> earlier in your path probably
[18:24] <soft_concrete> The only chromium I have installed is the one I installed via the ubuntu software app. Which would be a snap
[18:24] <WaltS48> Here are all the security vulnerability fixes from Thunderbird 68.11.0 to 78.4.0. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/thunderbird/
[18:24] <soft_concrete> "cd / && whereis chromium" appears to verify this.
[18:24] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK: the dashed triangles thingies haven't returned on xorg...yet. so far so good
[18:25] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, super - I would also surprise me if the intel gpu driver could not be fixed - it is really good compared to amd and definately nvidia
[18:27] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, so is that one a 64 bit executable
[18:27] <BarnabasDK> just to make sure
[18:27] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: your guess is as good as mine... /snap/bin/chromium: symbolic link to /usr/bin/snap
[18:27] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK:  your solution was a better-explained version of a similar one, thank you. but i don't really get _why_ the fix worked, what could possibly have lingered around in the upgrade?
[18:28] <BarnabasDK> coreyhuinker, I think the upgrade script probably missed something
[18:28] <soft_concrete> maybe it's time to go back to Arch, where I didn't have to deal with this snap stuff. Which has mostly been a pain any time I have to deal with it
[18:28] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, I am not a fan either
[18:29] <coreyhuinker> BarnabasDK: fair enough
[18:29] <BarnabasDK> I find apt to be quite adequate
[18:30] <soft_concrete> I prefer pacman, but yeah, there's nothing wrong with apt.
[18:30] <BarnabasDK> well - in either case there is now two package managers to error hunt - it does not make things easier
[18:30] <sor__> so i installed ubuntu 20.04 on my dad 2 in 1 the osk worked until the update.... i ran the live 20.10 the osk doesn't work at all.... any idea of a fix
[18:31] <soft_concrete> sor__: what's an osk?
[18:31] <mgedmin> on-screen keyboard?
[18:32] <mgedmin> sor__: is it enabled (system preferences -> universal access -> on-screen keyboard)?
[18:32] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KWQqPHvcNH/
[18:33] <mgedmin> eh it's actually Accessibility -> Screen Keyboard
[18:33] <BarnabasDK> output on my current pc
[18:33] <BarnabasDK> but the number in the path is probably different on yours
[18:34] <BarnabasDK> to get the full linker dump replace file with ldd
[18:34] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: thanks! /snap/chromium/1382/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64
[18:34] <BarnabasDK> aah but you tried to start cromium I believe
[18:35] <sor__> no it popped up it's own before
[18:35] <BarnabasDK> so maybe the symbolic link points somewhere wrong
[18:36] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I think you hit the nail right on the head. I run that chrome executable and it works.
[18:37] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, that also means you do indeed have two versions of chrome(ium) installed
[18:38]  * soft_concrete slaps snap around a bit with a large trout
[18:39] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, snap list shows me that gnome itself is installed that way too - lots of fun with that in the future
[18:39] <speltner> ffs
[18:39] <speltner> I wonder if I just managed to screw that build up too. I was trying to get qemu to run and now it booted into some kind of a mode where it checks for Hyperthreading and I've got like three seconds to do something, and then I end up with a black screen.
[18:39] <soft_concrete> BarnabasDK: I've never used this executable before, either that or my settings have been lost
[18:40] <speltner> must be some kind of virtualization package that got installed via apt
[18:40] <speltner> xen?
[18:40] <speltner> maybe
[18:41] <speltner> IOAPIC; VMX  fails to initialize since it"'s disabled by bios. yep it's XEN
[18:41] <speltner> is there a way to revert that one
[18:42] <speltner> VT is disabled and so forth
[18:42] <speltner> I mean I just installed that package and I had the system snapshot feature enabled
[18:43] <speltner> so it should be revertable, but was there a method to boot into some kind of a mode where you can revert latest package installations ?
[18:44] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, as an added bonus with snap - all launcher shortcuts seem to dissapear for chrome whenever snap updates
[18:44] <BarnabasDK> in plank at least
[18:48] <BarnabasDK> soft_concrete, seems snap'ed packages run isolated with their own graph of libraries - which is good for process isolation and security - but uses a lot more memory
[18:49] <BarnabasDK> seems to be a good tool for developers - for end users - not so much
[18:49] <soft_concrete> Yeah.
[18:49] <speltner> ok so the problem I'm having is the xen-hypervisor causing a boot loop. Some have figured out a way out of that by forcing BIOS mode but in my case then there's no operating system found
[18:50] <soft_concrete> Thanks for helping me get it to run... I'm done what I needed to do with it now
[18:50] <speltner> it got accidentally installed via apt; I do wonder where zsys and grub always write those backup crumb-trails so that I could snatch that package out
[18:51] <speltner> (I _could_ enable the VT options but I managed to read the boot-text with scroll lock and it said it's unsafe to use it with that mobo)
[18:52] <speltner> what a silly mishap on my behalf, talk about a "d'oh!" moment, I already got everything up and running so smoothly. It must've gotten installed with some of my build-deps
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> speltner: you are doing it again, randomly monologue with nobody?
[19:03] <ash_worksi> is there a term for the overlay that appears when you press the super key?
[19:04] <mgedmin> ash_worksi: the Overview
[19:04] <mgedmin> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Tour#Activities_Overview
[19:05] <ash_worksi> I think it use to be called the drawer when it was only a small window on... whichever version used unity
[19:05] <ash_worksi> mgedmin: thanks
[19:05] <lordcirth_> What package is apache mod_logio and/or mod_log_config in? I can't find a package but it's also not available via a2enmod. 16.04 with Apache 2.4.
[19:06] <ash_worksi> is there a way for me to create a custom tmux icon that would appear in the activities overview when I type tmux?
[19:07] <mgedmin> yeah, write a desktop file and put it in ~/.local/share/applications/tmux.desktop
[19:08] <ash_worksi> thanks mgedmin
[19:15] <manuels8> Hi guys I have a running tigervnc instance but cant connect to it with a macbook
[19:15] <manuels8> why is this
[19:16] <g3poandlsl> manuels8, do you have a firewall rule allowing incoming vnc traffic?
[19:17] <mgedmin> I've hard really bad time connecting to linux vnc servers from android because all linux vnc servers use outdated SSL/TLS protocol versions, which are no longer supported by android
[19:17] <manuels8> i did nothing special
[19:17] <mgedmin> I wouldn't be surprised if the situation was similar on the Mac side
[19:23] <SirScott> i've got a 20.04.1 LTS server that I hadn't rebooted for quite some time, until today. I'm noticing that upon reboot, sometimes I get the grub menu with a 30 second delay before it goes to the default option.  Other times it skips that menu and boots.  When I do NOT see the grub menu, I've noticed (perhaps coincidentally) that networking doesn't
[19:23] <SirScott> work immediately.
[19:24] <SirScott> what prompted the reboot was to change the boot drive.  i cloned it to a new larger disk.
[19:25] <SirScott> any ideas for things to check?  i guess i'd assume that i'd always see the grub menu
[19:26] <mgedmin> SirScott: by default you see the grub menu with the long 30-second timeout only if the previous boot was not successful
[19:26] <SirScott> mgedmin: ah, that explains that!  thanks!
[19:27] <mgedmin> SirScott: grub keeps track of this by setting recordfail=1 in /boot/grub/grubenv before it attempts to boot a particular kernel
[19:28] <mgedmin> and then /etc/init.d/grub-common removes that
[19:28] <mgedmin> indicating a successful boot
[19:29] <SirScott> for 20.04.1 networking, should I be using netplan or systemd's networking hooks?
[19:30] <isapgswell> hi everyone
[19:30] <isapgswell> does anyone tested graphite + thermal paste?   with heatsink of course
[19:31] <isapgswell> graphite used mechanical pencil
[19:31] <TJ-> SirScott: netplan only writes non-persistent systemd.network files to /run/systemd/network -- for a static server you're better off writing permaneent files in /etc/systemd/network/ and leaving netplan out of the loop
[19:31] <SirScott> TJ-, perfect - thank you!
[19:51] <speltner> So yep, my problem is a boot-loop after installing xen-hypervisor accidentally as I was installing build-deps
[19:52] <speltner> Since zsys and grub2 have been taking steady snapshots throughout today's package installing, I would assume there is some sort of a fallback method? yes?
[19:53] <speltner> i found like one person asking about zsys and how to revert after you've installed something unintended like that onto your system via apt and that thread had no answers
[19:55] <quidnunc> I can't connect to my IPSEC VPN. I get the error "could not find source connection". After searching on Google one recommendation is to try to set the interface to managed but I can't seem to do that in 20.10. Another recommendation is to set a default gateway but I can't understand what exactly I need to enter (does it need to be in the "Address" section or the "Route" section and what values?) Can anyone help?
[19:55] <quidnunc> (It's a guest on gcloud)
[19:57] <mgedmin> speltner: I saw a series of blogposts about zsys on planet ubuntu
[19:57] <mgedmin> speltner: IIRC you're supposed to see older snapshots in the grub boot menu
[19:58] <speltner> mgedmin: yep, it seems to be very experimental according to the blog posts i found
[19:58] <speltner> also, since xen hypervisor takes on the boot sequence... I wonder, is there a way to jump in between of that?
[20:01] <mgedmin> boot from external media?
[20:02] <speltner> yep well I just tried to boot from the liveusb, but for some reason it skipped right past that into the boot sequence. It's in UEFI now and supposed to boot to GNU Grub by pressing ESC, but ... I've got the underscore of death on the screen as for now
[20:02] <speltner> "_" on top left corner
[20:03] <speltner> I'll let it think things over for a while , during my previous miserable failures with Ubuntu 20.04, it actually went into the GNU Grub mode after staying a while in the underscore of death (_)
[20:04] <Bustin> Hey there, on a fresh install of 20.10, using an nvidia rtx 2070, dual monitors. My main is a 32" 165hz, running at the proper refresh rate, smooth, etc. The second monitor is a 24", 75hz, but is showing it's running at proper refresh rate, but there is a lot of input lag on that screen.
[20:04] <speltner> Would be kinda nice to know what it's doing under the hood, a.k.a. very informative if the user had a clue that it's going to the GNU Grub/Rescue boot menu/whatever .. well, if the old signs are correct, it should be there within a couple of minutes.
[20:04] <speltner> Bustin: what drivers did you install?
[20:06] <Bustin> speltner: using 455.28
[20:07] <speltner> Bustin: ok, so you've got the Nvidia proprietary drivers installed? And oh, wow, 455.28. I guess they're running on a newer driver baseline than the P-series Quadros I'm using, i could only install 450.something, can't check it out right now since my install is screwed up again :D
[20:09] <Bustin> Might I add, I am using my laptop, the monitor I am having issues with, is using HDMI (plugged directly in to the laptop), the other is a USB-C to DisplayPort plugged in to a Thunderbolt 3 dock, which is working properly.
[20:09] <speltner> Bustin: did you try reverting to next-to-newest drivers or even try out the Xorg driver to see if the problem exists there as well
[20:09] <speltner> Bustin: adapters, the worst any connection can get
[20:10] <Bustin> Well, the one using the adapter, is working great.
[20:10] <Bustin> I can't seem to get Gsync working unless I use USB-C to DisplayPort
[20:10] <Bustin> so that's why I'm using it.
[20:10] <Bustin> tried display port to display port, no dice.
[20:10] <speltner> Bustin: oh, that's interesting
[20:11] <speltner> Bustin: does it work like it should on other OS's if you've tried out any?
[20:11] <speltner> Bustin: oh btw you might need to enable the other displays in the display setup
[20:12] <speltner> ah sorry; I brainfarted, ignore
[20:12] <speltner> Bustin: if you happen to have another similar adapter cable, I'd try that one out ... USB-C is atrocious as a standard to begin with
[20:13] <Bustin> I have many, but the ONLY one that is giving me the full 165hz is the USB-C to DisplayPort cable.
[20:13] <Bustin> I've spent hours trying all different sorts of combo's lol
[20:13] <speltner> Bustin: ha, I feel your pain :D
[20:14] <speltner> btw is there no bootrepair on the livecd/usb
[20:18] <speltner> so the xen-hypervisor gives me a countdown and then proceeds to boot ... to a blank black screen. and I'm stuck in that loop. For some reason, even when I check the boot order in BIOS it still boots from the hdd.
[20:18] <lordcirth_> Ahah, logio is compiled in now
[20:29] <FuZi0N> Anyone else notice high RAM utilization being reported in 'top' and any other monitoring tool but then when you try to find the service which is utilizing most of the memory you can't find it? Perhaps there's a memory leak in Linux Kernel 5.4.0-52-generic on Ubuntu 18.04.1?
[20:30] <speltner> FuZi0N: yep I've noticed that too
[20:30] <speltner> FuZi0N: just today, before my entire build went to hell ;D
[20:31] <speltner> FuZi0N: I spent around an hour wonderin wth is going on
[20:33] <speltner> So, now my question would be: is it possible to remove xen-hypervisor manually from the boot sequence
[20:36] <Maik> FuZi0N: sure it's not gnome software?
[20:37] <Maik> or perhaps a extension in Gnome, or web browser?
[20:39] <Maik> speltner: dunno but you could search the web for it i guess
[20:43] <sarnold> FuZi0N: the smem tool is good at showing you which processes to blame for high memory usage, taking into account all the sharing that happens among processes
[20:45] <sarnold> FuZi0N: the slabtop tool lets you keep an eye on kernel memory allocations, but not all kernel memory allocations go through slabs. also, you can go crazy trying to track something down here, it's probably better to stick to blaming userspace for the moment
[20:46] <speltner> Maik: already been on to that, in theory the zsys _should_ be able to revert things, just trying out the liveusb atm
[20:46] <mgedmin> also, hmm, zsys will revert things on disk, but not things like EFI boot vars
[20:46] <mgedmin> I suspect
[20:47] <mgedmin> and not things like boot record contents
[20:47] <mgedmin> or EFI system partition contents (because it's fat, not zfs)
[20:48] <speltner> mgedmin: yep well I was just about to come to my next question which is whether or not I can actually use the live-install-usbstick to install on top of the haywired-build with preferably keeping my files intact or is it all or nothing?
[20:48] <speltner> files and settings, the apt packages can go, I have them scripted
[20:52] <speltner> well, I can't mount a zfs drive on another build either so I guess I'm screwed
[21:03] <FuZi0N> Maik: I'm running Ubunter Server (headless) so no GUI
[21:03] <FuZi0N> Therefore, I don't think it's a gnome issue
[21:03] <FuZi0N> speltner: Did you ever manage to get to the bottom of it?
[21:04] <FuZi0N> Maik: How'd you recommend I troubleshoot this? smem? How is it different compared to top?
[21:04] <Maik> FuZi0N: then you should have mentioned that in the first place. I'm no expert at all with servers.
[21:05] <Maik> FuZi0N: maybe better to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:07] <FuZi0N> Ok!
[21:08] <FuZi0N> sarnold: how does smem differ from top?
[21:08] <sarnold> FuZi0N: you have to do the math yourself to figure out how much of the shared memory in a process is 'free' vs actually used in the process
[21:09] <sarnold> FuZi0N: smem does all the shared memory mapping overlap math for you and assigns each process using those shared mappings a portion of the blame as appropriate
[21:24] <kur1j> On Ubuntu linux where is Chromium getting its systemwide certs from?
[21:29] <speltner> FuZi0N: bottom of what ?
[21:30] <speltner> I got that zfs drive onto this endpoint but I'm kinda baffled how is the zfs mounting supposed to work
[21:30] <sarnold> kur1j: excellent question; this page is hosted on chromium.org but refers to chrome in the text: https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/root-ca-policy
[21:31] <kur1j> sarnold: well I'm talking about where it loads them from on the actual system
[21:31] <kur1j> not how I get one included
[21:31] <speltner> I tried mounting with the instructions I found online but they lead me t o an empty partition; there's two pools available
[21:35] <sarnold> speltner: this might help: zfs list -omounted,canmount,mountpoint,name
[21:35] <speltner> this one's running ubuntu 20.04.1lts but on arm64 (rpi4b). I'm wondering if I should install some extra packages for zfs support
[21:37] <FuZi0N> speltner: the exsessive rame useage issue/potential kernel memory leak
[21:37] <speltner> sarnold: thanks a lot
[21:38] <speltner> FuZi0N: no, I managed to get myself into a boot loop with xen-hypervisor before that :D
[21:38] <speltner> sarnold: thanks so much, there's three points, none of which seem to be mounted
[21:41] <speltner> since I've absolutely never used zfs-based drives before, I'm wondering if there's some kind of easy method in mounting them on a "foreign" system? some of the instructions I found online were simply wrong
[21:41] <speltner> (or perhaps they were outdated, that's another possibility)
[21:45] <BarnabasDK> have been wondering why my laptop started to use exessive amounts of memory, and found that snap had 3 different versions of gnome in addition to the one the OS 20.04 has.
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> so for a 16 gb laptop it was still swapping itself to death even with a few desktop applications running
[21:46] <speltner> BarnabasDK: you're not alone, you're the third person to note that today
[21:46] <sarnold> speltner: I've not tried myself, but usually I hear zpool import -R <something> being enough
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> is this snap introduction well considered for end user application
[21:46] <speltner> BarnabasDK: I thought I was going nuts or something, but glad to know I'm still sane
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> its a brilliant system
[21:46] <BarnabasDK> for development
[21:47] <BarnabasDK> isolated libraries and all
[21:47] <speltner> BarnabasDK: well in all brutal honesty, snaps aren't exactly an _answer_ for any existing package handler problems
[21:47] <BarnabasDK> its an aswer for devs that need to test apps isolated
[21:47] <speltner> "for every solution, there's a problem"
[21:47] <BarnabasDK> for end users no
[21:47] <speltner> BarnabasDK: well, perhaps, yep. a lot of the snap packages arrive broken btw
[21:48] <BarnabasDK> I really can't imagine what made the ubuntu devs think ppl had the ram to do this?
[21:48] <speltner> I mostly prefer to compile straight from source since all distros are lagging behind with a pile of software
[21:48] <speltner> BarnabasDK: just like I just said :D "for every solution, there is a problem"
[21:49] <BarnabasDK> yeah
[21:49] <BarnabasDK> now snapd is gone on my lappie
[21:49] <BarnabasDK> maybe thats the wrong sollution you could also remove the snapd-shop
[21:50] <speltner> BarnabasDK: idk for sure if the ram leak problems occurring today were because of snaps
[21:50] <BarnabasDK> my question is - for the ubuntu ppl here - how exactly did you test this?
[21:50] <BarnabasDK> there is no leak
[21:51] <BarnabasDK> but if every single process have to load its own independent graph of software - well
[21:52] <BarnabasDK> I guess the devs have 32 gb each
[21:52] <BarnabasDK> at least
[21:53] <BarnabasDK> so hoping canonical ppl still monitor this channel - this is really now working
[21:54] <BarnabasDK> not
[22:01] <BarnabasDK> speltner, well quite a few of the snap applications refer to a simple commit version
[22:01] <BarnabasDK> not a release branch
[22:01] <BarnabasDK> again - thats what devs need to do
[22:01] <BarnabasDK> not end users
[22:05] <Szybet> Hello, i have a issue. i managed to make DNS over tls with systemd-resolved and Networkmanager but its only working with 1.1.1.1 other ip dont work (its using tls, i looked at packets in wireshark)
[22:13] <Apachez> when doing a custom ubuntu image to boot from iso, is it possible to add a progressbar of how much of the iso that grub have loaded into memory during boot so the user can see the progress? Similar to how you can get a percentage progressbar when booting through pxeboot?
[22:14] <TJ-> Apachez: grub only loads kernel and initialramfs
[22:15] <Apachez> yeah but there is a syntax through isolinux to load iso too
[22:15] <matsaman> Apachez: I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to have a progress bar of what fraction has been loaded into memory
[22:15] <Apachez> but when it does there is no progressbar on how much it have read of the iso from the usbdrive or whatever one boot from
[22:16] <TJ-> Apachez: is this an UEFI boot mode, since you mention GRUB? because isolinux/syslinux is only used for El-Torito/BIOS boots and GRUB isn't used there
[22:16] <Apachez> so if you use this method to select from various iso files from a lets say dvd disc it can take some time to load approx 1.5GB of image into ram and the user have no clue on if this works or if the bootloader just gave up
[22:17] <Apachez> I was hoping there would be some cmdline to grub or isolinux to enable "display how much data you have read into mem and how much is left"
[22:17] <Apachez> again similar to how things looks like with pxeboot where one can see a progressbar of how much of the iso has been fetched over the network
[22:18] <Apachez> but I guess that progressbar actually comes from the output of wget used by the loader to fetch the file over the network
[22:18] <TJ-> Apachez: the boot-loader (GRUB or Syslinux) doesn't load the image into RAM - it just loads the kernel and initialramfs into memory from the images, then its up to the kernel and /init script. There, you can add "Plymouth" progress indicators with plymouth themes or customisations
[22:19] <Apachez> you mean those useless 4 points displayed by the ubuntu graphical boot screen?
[22:19] <TJ-> Apachez: yes, there are other themes, and as I said you can customise
[22:20] <Apachez> like this ? https://github.com/1deterministic/Plymouth-Progress-Bar
[22:20] <Apachez> or is there an official method?
[22:21] <TJ-> Apachez: see the "external resources" at the end of https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/
[22:22] <Apachez> tnx
[22:23] <TJ-> Apachez: the theming tutorial 4 part series is very instructive
[22:23] <TJ-> Apachez: https://brej.org/blog/?cat=16
[23:18] <Deano59> where is snap's version of chromium stored?
[23:19] <Deano59> should be here, was in 20.04 but it's not on 20.10: /snap/chromium/current/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser
[23:23] <Deano59> exit
[23:23] <Deano59> oops
[23:39] <donofrio> what is the package/command to upgrade 18.04 to 20.04.?
[23:42] <sarnold> donofrio: either do-release-upgrade or do-release-upgrade -d
[23:42] <donofrio> ok tnx
[23:42] <arch-nemesis> donofrio: there's an article here that should help: https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[23:44] <arch-nemesis> Honestly, though I've never had great luck upgrading versions. In my experience, it always works, and then a month later, I'll find something that's just a little bit off. There will be some config file somewhere that doesn't work on the newer system that I had forgotten about from two years back, that sort of thing.
[23:45] <kk4ewt> arch-nemesis, the old windows upgrade and in 3 months have to reinstall anyways
[23:48] <arch-nemesis> hate to say it, but yes. haha.