[00:03] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I think the problem with issue 14 is timing. I had to add a sleep before jack start after switching everything to dbus calls  :P  but the code looks much nicer.
[00:27] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: WRT issue 8, do you have any ideas about button order or tool tips?
[00:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> [OvenWerks](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_OvenWerks:matrix.org): I'll have to think about it. 
[00:39] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: also wondering if a Loopback device should show up in jack device, extra devices, headphones, etc. Maybe rather than putting them at the end, just skip them.
[00:40]  * OvenWerks doesn't use Loopbacks at all and really has no idea.
[01:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Same. I don't know why someone would want to use loopbacks when Jack basically does that job for you. I honestly consider it an extreme niche case and maybe consider it "Won't fix."
[01:15] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: loopback devices only show in the "Add" and "Remove" dropdowns now (I hope... none to test).
[01:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> I hope that's a decent compromise.
[01:20] <OvenWerks> issue 6 is anoying. He says the logfile is empty... even though he was asked to put logging to extra which should put out lots of text. At this point I am not even sure autojack is running except the other issues seem to indicate it does.
[01:21]  * OvenWerks wants to reach through his computer and test this system himself...
[01:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yes, I agree. Seems as though he hasn't enabled it (I'm almost positive that in Arch it would require a manual systemctl  --user enable studio
[01:25] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: applying anything in -controls that talks to autojack should force start it if it wasn't running
[01:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hmmm... yes. Strange that it wouldn't be already running then. I'm surprised he took on the AUR maintenance on studio-controls considering he doesn't exactly understand how it works, if that's the case.
[01:26] <OvenWerks> when studio-controls starts, it pings autojack and autojack answers. -controls save that as true and next time it tries to send something it starts it.
[01:28] <OvenWerks> I have asked for the output of controls run from the terminal, the logfile and now (good luck) the ouytput from running autojack from the commandline
[01:36] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, good luck with that. At least he's (somewhat) responsive.
[02:38] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: nice gift!
[02:39]  * RikMills is lucky to get socks
[03:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> [RikMills](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_RikMills:matrix.org): yeah, it was straight from Mike Mikowski for helping to design the new welcome app, and consulting with the project. 
[07:34]  * MauroGaspari[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/IoluxjnWZXSUEVsMGlBkRRZu/message.txt >
[07:37] <MauroGaspari[m]> Point 3 is especially tricky. It is quite challenging to explain what Ubuntu Studio brings in just a few lines. Longer than what I wrote, I believe won't be accepted. if Eickmeyer or others have suggestions to change it, feel free to comment. 
[16:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: You can probably leave the second sentence out (about JACK and lowlatency), or perhaps summarize them. I want to try to change the mindset that Studio is only for audio.
[16:59] <MauroGaspari[m]> [Eickmeyer](https://matrix.to/#/@eickmeyer:matrix.org) yes that was the idea. But if we omit the amazing audio stack, people might think it is just any plasma distro with some software they can install on their own. Am I wrong? 
[17:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: You're not wrong, I think "preconfigured for professional audio with JACK and a lowlatency kernel" might summarize it a bit more.
[17:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> Or "Makes professional audio easy on Linux with JACK and lowlatency kernel preconfigurations"....?
[17:03]  * Eickmeyer[m] spitballs
[17:08] <MauroGaspari[m]> I like that!
[17:46] <MauroGaspari[m]> Ubuntu Studio is an operating system for creative individuals in the areas of audio production, video production, graphics design, photography and desktop publishing. It Makes professional audio easy on Linux with JACK and lowlatency kernel preconfigurations.
[17:46] <MauroGaspari[m]> Starting from 20.10, Ubuntu Studio features the KDE Plasma desktop environment.
[17:46] <MauroGaspari[m]> Eickmeyer: looks ok to you?
[17:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> That works. :)
[18:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Of course, I'd fix the capitalization. ;)
[18:10] <MauroGaspari[m]> Yes will sort minor details and send to distrowatch. Thanks for your help [Eickmeyer](https://matrix.to/#/@eickmeyer:matrix.org) 
[18:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: No, thank you for yours! :)