[18:16] <Crunchy> Hello, I have a problem with the rc.xml files (I've edited at least 3), for whatever reasons I can't seem to get open box to start my windows undecorated and maximized automatically. What could be the problem?
[19:37] <andrePhyton> hi i am from russian
[19:39] <wxl> andrePhyton: howdy. need some help?
[19:47] <doomslayer> Anyone answer the rc.xml question while I was gone?
[19:47] <wxl> no one answers questions when the people asking them aren't around to hear
[19:49] <doomslayer> True...
[19:49] <wxl> that said, did you restart openbox?
[19:49] <doomslayer> I have restarted the computer itself, but not the process.
[19:49] <wxl> that would suffice. where are they?
[19:52] <doomslayer>  /usr/share/lubuntu/openbox ; a couple in the directory /etc/X11/openbox;
[19:53] <wxl> i don't think the /etc/X11 ones would be picked up
[19:53] <wxl> what version are you on?
[19:54] <wxl> and for that matter i'm not sure about the /usr/share one
[19:54] <doomslayer> I am on version 18.04
[19:55] <wxl> normally the one is in /etc/xdg/openbox for systemwide or $HOME/.config/openbox for single user
[19:55] <wxl> i can say that it should follow XDG norms and /etc/X11 isn't defined in any of the normal XDG variables
[19:56] <wxl> /usr/share/*L*ubuntu is but not /usr/share/lubuntu
[19:56] <wxl> so i doubt that other one works either
[19:57] <andrePhyton> wxl i want install analog redhift , bat i dont know
[19:57] <doomslayer> I have both of those edited as well...
[20:00] <wxl> try installing `xmllint --valid` (you'll need to install libxml2-utils) to check the validity of the xml. you might have messed up the formatting
[20:01] <wxl> actually wait
[20:01] <wxl> use the expatt package and the `xmlwf` command
[20:01] <wxl> expat, sorry
[20:01] <wxl> it's got a little more sensible output
[20:03] <wxl> andrePhyton: you want to do what?
[20:04] <andrePhyton> redshift install or analog redhift - soft from repositories.
[20:05] <wxl> you mean for adjusting the color temperature?
[20:07] <andrePhyton> I want to install red hat, or its equivalent, but I don't know which build to choose so as not to increase the distribution with dependencies. my version was for GNOME
[20:08] <wxl> this is a channel for help with lubuntu, an ubuntu distribution. for red hat, you need to go somewhere else
[20:09] <andrePhyton> yes.  Yes removes the blue spectrum at night
[20:09] <wxl> so you didn't mean red hat, but you meant redshift after all?
 i think there's a language barrier at play
[20:10] <wxl> i suspect that as well
[20:10] <andrePhyton> I'm looking for an analog for Lubunt
 andrePhyton: to confirm, you want to install redshift, which adjusts color temperature to remove the blue spectrum of the light spectrum during night time hours, on an Lubuntu system?
[20:10] <wxl> there is a `redshift-gtk` package
 ^ that
[20:10] <wxl> but if you want the least dependencies, just install the `redshift` package and control it on the command line
[20:10] <wxl> all the other packages are just front ends
[20:13] <andrePhyton> Yes, I'm looking for a gui well-suited for Lubuntu. or perhaps there is a similar program
[20:14] <wxl> !info redshift-gtk ! andrePhyton
[20:14] <wxl> argh
[20:14] <wxl> !info redshift-gtk | andrePhyton
[20:14] <wxl> ^ there
[20:17] <andrePhyton> Great! how do I launch it to start using it?
[20:21] <wxl> andrePhyton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Redshift