[00:11] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Elias [It's totally wrong what you say, and I can't hear something like that without re …], again it was extensively discussed how they disable hyperthreading in the linux kernel to mitigate the vulnerability known as spectre and meltdown, but if your so inclined to believe these vulnerabilities are intentional backdoors by some shadow
[00:11] <ubptgbot> organisation that's up to you. … but it's not something most of the 3300 people are interested in.  … even less so if "operating systems can't mitigate it" in which case people would either have to live with it or avoid the device altogether. …  @libremax has made a forum post to keep track of these devices, feel free to add to it if you feel it's
[00:11] <ubptgbot> missing entries and/or information. … but again this group is about ubuntu touch and what that offers, that's what most of the 3300 people are interested in. you have been warned by an admin before, it is best to abide to the rules set by the group admins
[00:30] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes, again, this is not about Ubuntu Touch. Use of logical fallacies, such as jumping to conclusions, false equivalence, and appeal to authority will not make you right, nor on topic. if you insist on continuing to promote your paranoia as truth without evidence, and argue about off topic subject matter, i will have to take further action.
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> as was answered before all that, Ubuntu Touch does not currently have full disk encryption; it is not trivial to add it; and there still bigger and higher priority things that need to be done first, which core devs are working on. but if you wish to work on things specifically relating to full disk encryption in order to move that along, f
[00:32] <ubptgbot> eel free to dive in and have at it.
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <Elias> Everything I said was sourced, I challenge you to show me what is wrong with what I just said. … Whether it's an intentional or unintentional flaw isn't very important, that's why I didn't insist on it even though a lot of articles on the web talk about it. … You want to banish me just because you disagree with me.
[00:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> Flaws are only that. There is the overflow group if you want to discuss flaws in things we don't control.
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[03:03] <Budgii> Helo!
[03:03] <Budgii> Hello, even!
[03:03] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/macrezGj.webp
[03:03] <Budgii> I just install UBports on my pinephone. works great so far. One thing I notice, is I am unable to use the dongle that came with it to connect to a monitor with mouse and keyboard
[03:04] <Budgii> Anyone aware of this issue?
[03:35] <ubptgbot> Syvar1 was added by: Syvar1
[03:37] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> i believe that's a known issue but don't quote me on that
[03:38] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> feel free to look at the issue tracker at https://gitlab.com/ubports/pinephone
[03:39] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> ......think i got the addess wrong oops
[03:41] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> aha tis https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone
[04:09] <ubptgbot> lfpereiras was added by: lfpereiras
[04:28] <Budgii> ubptgbot: Fuseteam: sorry, i didn't see these! looking now
[04:55] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> was there an issue with one of the devel versions where all click apps are gone? at least the app drawer?
[05:08] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> This lookslike a  pretty cool multi-OS (including Ubuntu Touch) bootloader for PinePhone - https://twitter.com/xteeio/status/1325145392007184385?s=09
[05:12] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> [Edit] This looks like a  pretty cool multi-OS (including Ubuntu Touch) bootloader for PinePhone - https://twitter.com/xteeio/status/1325145392007184385?s=09
[06:54] <ubptgbot> <anibyl> @TotalSonic [This looks like a  pretty cool multi-OS (including Ubuntu Touch) bootloader for …], It doesn't boot any OSs for me
[06:54] <ubptgbot> <Danfro> @dohbee [yes, again, this is not about Ubuntu Touch. Use of logical fallacies, such as ju …], To be honest, I think this is unfair. I do not understand the technical part, but a) security IS part of UT, b) he did provide links (I can not tell if the content is good though). He did argue resonable and @fuseteam as an Xperia X user I am inte
[06:54] <ubptgbot> rested in this kind of information. There are many lenghty porting discussions here that are boring likewise for many users. BUT I do agree, that this group is not be the best place to keep in depth discussions alive.
[07:28] <ubptgbot> <xian944266> @TotalSonic [This looks like a  pretty cool multi-OS (including Ubuntu Touch) bootloader for …], woah
[07:28] <ubptgbot> <xian944266> amazing
[09:02] <ubptgbot> <Itppt1> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/T7Vz4kOp.webp
[10:02] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Phones connect to cell towers. They are a tracking device. The hardware and OS is irrelevant to that fundamental fact. For clarity, yes, UT phones talk to cell towers!
[10:03] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> If one is so deeply concerned about being tracked better not use a mobile device at all. Or only use WiFi
[10:06] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Flohack [If one is so deeply concerned about being tracked better not use a mobile device …], Exactly. Or converse naked in the middle of a field, under five space blankets 😜
[10:07] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> whats a space blanket
[10:07] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Emergency blanket
[10:08] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> (Photo, 733x1000) https://irc.ubports.com/XYa8WNva.png
[10:08] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> ah thx yesss ^^
[10:08] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> -_-
[10:09] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> Hey Florian, I think upgrading to OTA-14 broke bluetooth for me on angler.
[10:09] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Danfro [To be honest, I think this is unfair. I do not understand the technical part, bu …], Sure but this really isn't the appropiate place for it the overflow group is way more appropiate and there's a forum post about it here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/866/security-meldown-spectre-and-ubports-smartphones-tablets?_=160495328768
[10:09] <ubptgbot> 0
[10:11] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Hey Florian, I think upgrading to OTA-14 broke bluetooth for me on angler.], Please feed back as a bug report. There have been some regressions with Camera, affecting ringtones
[10:11] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @Stereofont [Please feed back as a bug report. There have been some regressions with Camera, …], Where do I do that?
[10:12] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Fuseteam [Sure but this really isn't the appropiate place for it the overflow group is way …], Agreed. Security in general is a much wider topic than just UT. That is why we have Overflow, for things that are off topic in this group
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Where do I do that?], There is OTA14 call for testing blog
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> Can you link me to it please? Would appreciate it.
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Danfro [To be honest, I think this is unfair. I do not understand the technical part, bu …], [Edit] Sure but this really isn't the appropiate place for it the overflow group is way more appropiate and there's a forum post about it here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/866/security-meldown-spectre-and-ubports-smartphones-tablets?_=16049
[10:14] <ubptgbot> 53287680 … Plus rodney has told him multiple times not to continue the discussion here... … And tbh the tinfoil hat flavor brings it a bit to the paranoid side, a vulnerability and a backdoor are two very different things
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @Stereofont [There is OTA14 call for testing blog], Can you link me to it please? Would appreciate it.
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Can you link me to it please? Would appreciate it.], https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> Thanks
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> No problem
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Where do I do that?], https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch is a good place to start :3
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Hehe
[10:16] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Oops lionel already linked ya xD
[10:17] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Hey Florian, I think upgrading to OTA-14 broke bluetooth for me on angler.], Remind me what Angler is?
[10:17] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> Nexus 6P
[10:18] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Ahah. I think this reflects that for devices with very few users, we have a weak testing regime
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> I just connected my bluetooth keyboard to my device, then UT Crashes and bluetooth never starts again. Tried `hciconfig` and `rfkill list` and bluetooth isn't even mentioned there either.
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Nexus 6P], It makes your observations and feedback especially valuable
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> But, I will push a bug report. I appreciate again.
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Thanks
[10:32] <ubptgbot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> I've added it
[10:37] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/vjPrsS2C.webp
[10:47] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [I've added it], Sorry to hear. Will test at home
[10:47] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> I dont use bluetooth a lot
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> @Flohack Voice note from Teleports on my BQ M10 HD
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> (Voice, 15s) https://irc.ubports.com/BdotwSjd.oga
[11:07] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Works! btw Dorset is a province of England 😃
[11:08] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dtarrant [<reply to media>], Lovely!
[11:08] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> I like your British accent a lot BTW
[11:08] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> And yes, voice notes can get people better connected, since its always better to hear ones voice than just read typing
[11:09] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> (Voice, 26s) https://irc.ubports.com/8TaG3QE6.oga
[11:12] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> For those whose first language is not English, voice notes may be much easier than writing. On the other hand, voice notes in English may be much more difficult to understand than written comments
[11:20] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Stereofont [For those whose first language is not English, voice notes may be much easier th …], inb4 people send chinese voice notes
[11:26] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> Test Voice Note from Nexus 4
[11:26] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> (Voice, 11s) https://irc.ubports.com/ssx3UnMY.oga
[11:27] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> Silence
[11:29] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> Nexus 4 can't record (known issue) :(
[11:40] <ubptgbot> <dtarrant> PinePhone can play voice notes but can't record since not possible to permit microphone etc
[11:52] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> maybe try other telegram client
[11:53] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> like `mywebtelegram`
[12:11] <ubptgbot> <Elias> @Flohack [If one is so deeply concerned about being tracked better not use a mobile device …], I totally agree with you, that's why I don't use a phone chip, but I use the "Linphone" application with the anonymous service https://dtmf.io/login in SIP protocol, so I can receive and send phone calls and SMS without anyone knowing who I am, I
[12:11] <ubptgbot> use the GlocallMe portable router to connect to the internet outside https://www.glocalme.com/FR/en-US/cloudsim/roaming_free_wifi_g4pro.  … or simply use disposable 4G chips. … That's why I don't use the pinephone, because the Linphone application doesn't work on the pinephone despite the efforts of "Joan CiberSheep".
[12:11] <ubptgbot> <Elias> @Stereofont [Phones connect to cell towers. They are a tracking device. The hardware and OS i …], You are absolutely right ;) … But I thought about this problem and I found solutions before you even need to formulate it
[12:14] <ubptgbot> <Elias> And I think I don't need to specify that I'm using a self-hosted VPN to connect to the internet from the smartphone.
[12:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> can we move the convo to https://t.me/ubports_overflow please
[12:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] can we move the convo to https://t.me/ubports_OF please
[12:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] can we move the convo to https://t.me/ubportsOF please
[12:47] <ubptgbot> <Danfro> @Fuseteam [can we move the convo to https://t.me/ubportsOF please], 👍 Interesting, but getting too specific and more general security based.
[12:48] <ubptgbot> Paulo pandryx was added by: Paulo pandryx
[13:19] <ubptgbot> <YoviIhsanP> When i installed Ubuntu Os Can i run command terminal ? like pc / laptop
[13:26] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> you can run command on a terminal but not exactly the same as PC. I mean not all commands will work out of the box like for example installing stuffs via apt
[13:29] <ubptgbot> <YoviIhsanP> Oke Thank u for information 🙏
[13:34] <ubptgbot> <YoviIhsanP> I"m sorry i want ask How Instal WhatsApp on Ubuntu Touch
[13:44] <ubptgbot> <BlackHat17> @YoviIhsanP [I"m sorry i want ask How Instal WhatsApp on Ubuntu Touch], Anbox
[13:50] <ubptgbot> Engr_MH was added by: Engr_MH
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @BlackHat17 [Anbox], Which at the moment is not functional. So a very bare-bones WhatsApp experience via Morph browser if you have an Android phone somewhere, running the official app constantly in the background
[14:00] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Stereofont [Which at the moment is not functional. So a very bare-bones WhatsApp experience …], Or indeed an iPhone…
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Now i remember why flick ain't ready _sigh_
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] Now i remember why flick ain't ready sigh
[14:03] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @YoviIhsanP [I"m sorry i want ask How Instal WhatsApp on Ubuntu Touch], Whatsapp doesn't support ubuntu touch, you can ask them to support it maybe
[14:18] <ubptgbot> <Stefano0101> @NunoRocha51 [OTA14 big shit with oneplus 3 T,with OTA13 everything work fine,when I install g …], Yes, I run into that issue too on Op3t. But, I think the issue is also cutting the sound in calls, it's like intermittent sound output. I only installed UT on Op3t to test the new installer and these issues stoped me from using it as dai
[14:18] <ubptgbot> ly driver.
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Stefano0101 [Yes, I run into that issue too on Op3t. But, I think the issue is also cutting t …], If you can confirm in the bug reporter, that would be helpful
[14:27] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> @Stereofont [Which at the moment is not functional. So a very bare-bones WhatsApp experience …], Whatsweb in the open store gives you a fairly decent whatsapp web experience.
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> The dark theme of whatsapp web looks better on UT
[15:50] <ubptgbot> <NunoRocha51> @Stefano0101 [Yes, I run into that issue too on Op3t. But, I think the issue is also cutting t …], I make fresh install with devloper channel and evrything work fine
[16:02] <ubptgbot> Adil Mulla was added by: Adil Mulla
[16:19] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> Developer channel with the op3 and the only issue I have with notifications like that, is that the notification audio kinda cuts in and out, or at least doesn't play smoothly, but it still plays
[16:30] <ubptgbot> DI MATTEO marjorie was added by: DI MATTEO marjorie
[16:33] <ubptgbot> <taiebot taiebot> @dtarrant [Nexus 4 can't record (known issue) :(], Same here
[16:49] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @PhoenixLandPirate [Developer channel with the op3 and the only issue I have with notifications like …], Same here. I wonder why, on Nexus 6P. Is that a Halium thing
[17:36] <ubptgbot> <Tipper365> How to install(ubuntu touch) on not listed phones
[17:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Tipper365 [How to install(ubuntu touch) on not listed phones], Its not possible thats why there is a list?
[17:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Tipper365 [How to install(ubuntu touch) on not listed phones], you have to develop a port for any devices not on the supported list
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <Ganvix Gust> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6NZgxZuI.wav
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <Ganvix Gust> Best ringtone ever for Ubports
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @YougoChats [The dark theme of whatsapp web looks better on UT], .....there's a darktheme?
[17:48] <ubptgbot> impreza233 was added by: impreza233
[17:48] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> Hello everyone 👋
[17:48] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> I have ported, with help, a Motorola phone to UBPorts.
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> What could be the next steps to do?
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Can someone answer this guy? https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5140/problems-with-pinephone-builds
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @impreza233 [What could be the next steps to do?], What stage are you with porting?
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> That's the forum thread if someone wants to test https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4838/motorola-moto-e-2015-4g-lte-surnia
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> @Fuseteam [What stage are you with porting?], All the indicated in the thread
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> @impreza233 [That's the forum thread if someone wants to test https://forums.ubports.com/topi …], Basically it works at 85-90%
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Hmmm guess you'll have wait for answers there then
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> Thanks 😊
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @impreza233 [Basically it works at 85-90%], Ah guesd next is getting it in the installer maybe?
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @impreza233 [Basically it works at 85-90%], [Edit] Ah guess next is getting it in the installer maybe?
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> @Fuseteam [Ah guess next is getting it in the installer maybe?], I don't know the steps, so I ask about that
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Are you in @ubports_porting?
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> @Fuseteam [Are you in @ubports_porting?], Nop
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> @Fuseteam [Are you in @ubports_porting?], [Edit] Nope
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Feel free to ask there too
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <impreza233> Perfect :)
[18:01] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [Are you in @ubports_porting?], BTW TELEports now supports joining groups with public and invite links :P
[18:01] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @Flohack [BTW TELEports now supports joining groups with public and invite links :P], Not private groups?
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @Flohack [BTW TELEports now supports joining groups with public and invite links :P], [Edit] Not private groups?  Or I suppose invite links means to private groups?
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @imraniqbal [Not private groups?  Or I suppose invite links means to private groups?], yes
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Ah the t.me links, niiice
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <McMarius11> Great 😊👍
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> yesss
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Marius is that you 👀
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <McMarius11> no no, I'm not a developer
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @Fuseteam [Ah the t.me links, niiice], Here you go, you can test it: https://t.me/UBportsOF.
[18:04] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @McMarius11 [no no, I'm not a developer], 😂😂😂you got the reference
[18:04] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @imraniqbal [Here you go, you can test it: https://t.me/UBportsOF.], works nicely woohoo
[18:06] <ubptgbot> <McMarius11> @Fuseteam [😂😂😂you got the reference], Yes 😉👍
[18:12] <ubptgbot> <Josele13> @Javacookies [so bq phones does really have great battery? that's nice], I think it is the characteristics of the mobile in general, battery, screen, processor, etc ..... and Ut, hehehehehe … Look at the battery percentage, I just finished working
[18:12] <ubptgbot> <Josele13> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/FAD6L6F3.png
[18:15] <ubptgbot> <Josele13> Screenshot of Mobile Bq u plus
[18:15] <ubptgbot> <Josele13> [Edit] Screenshot of mobile Bq u plus
[18:17] <ubptgbot> <Josele13> [Edit] Screenshot of Bq u plus
[18:34] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> @Fuseteam [.....there's a darktheme?], Yup. Its right there in the settings
[19:56] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> oh wow how did i miss that
[19:57] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> the dialogs need some love tho hmm3
[19:57] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] the dialogs need some love tho hmmm
[21:37] <ubptgbot> ianand007 was added by: ianand007
[21:38] <ubptgbot> <ianand007> Is there any way to install ubport gsi on Redmi 5a
[21:41] <ubptgbot> <ianand007> I flashed a rom then wiped all and formatted data too after that flashed ubports gsi then ramsidk , boot no console patch , and apparmor enabler then rebooted Redmi 5a it's on bottle bootloop  … I missed helium boot coz it wasn't available  I am still on bootloop
[21:42] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> you need halium-boot specific for you device
[21:43] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> [Edit] you need halium-boot specific for your device
[21:43] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> then it should works
[21:43] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> otherwise go back to android
[21:59] <ubptgbot> Viktor was added by: Viktor
[22:27] <ubptgbot> <ianand007> Can anyone make helium boot for Redmi 5a  … codename :- riva
[23:32] <ubptgbot> Jazzing_fabulously was added by: Jazzing_fabulously