[16:13] <luna_> Hello, is there any Kernel team meeting today?
[17:06] <luna_> guessing not?
[17:09] <mhcerri> hi, luna_. do you have any specific topic to discuss?
[17:09] <luna_> mhcerri: nope not currently, was just wondering if its still in my calendar on Tuesdays 
[17:10] <luna_> or well i wonder if you have any newer 5.9 kernels then the one from 20th October 
[17:10] <luna_> not brave enough to install the 5.10 RCs :p 
[17:10] <mhcerri> luna_, I don't think we have these meetings anymore
[17:11] <mhcerri> sforshee, ^ any idea?
[17:12] <luna_> alright the Ubuntu Fridge calendar is really outdated someone should look at that at some point
[17:19] <tjaalton> the unstable kernel moved from 5.9 to 5.10
[17:20] <tjaalton> so there are no 5.9.x I think
[17:20] <tjaalton> except the mainline builds
[17:23] <luna_> tjaalton: ah any idea where i can find the latest mainline for 5.9 ?
[17:23] <tjaalton> same place as always https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:24] <luna_> tjaalton: ah thanks :)
[17:33] <luna_> that worked thanks tjaalton and mhcerri :) 
[20:22] <linuxr> Hi all, so I get this notebook which runs well with latest ubuntu, but just the "Alt Gr" key does not appear to function at all .. any help?
[20:24] <sarnold> test the key with xev and find out if it's emitting events; if it is, hopefully someone in #ubuntu knows how to fiddle with the configs to get it working
[20:30] <linuxr> sarnold, left and right alt keys do not seem to emit events with xev...what does that mean?
[20:30] <sarnold> linuxr: do you need to hold down an Fn key or something similar to make them work? sometimes laptop keyboards do silly things like that
[20:32] <linuxr> sarnold, no that doesnt help either..I've never seen anything like that
[20:33] <sarnold> linuxr: dang
[20:34] <linuxr> sarnold, interestingly, pressing the "fn" key alone does not emit an event, but "fn + cursor up" increases the volume as expecte
[20:34] <sarnold> that fn key is probably handled by the firmware or similar
[20:35] <linuxr> okay, but the alt keys? why don't these work?
[20:35] <linuxr> is there some other way to test them, without X maybe?
[20:39] <sarnold> linuxr: try showkey -- I haven't used it in 20 years, I can't recall if you need to quit X to use it, or if it works if you just pop to a virtual console
[20:44] <linuxr> showkey - "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[20:44] <sarnold> try stopping x then
[20:46] <linuxr> okay..brb
[20:49] <linuxr> damn, how do I quit from X without ctrl-alt-fX?
[21:00] <sarnold> I think that's a systemctl isolate command these days