| jeremy31 | Thank U? | 00:06 |
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| vlm | How to track down slow poweroff? | 02:25 |
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| vlm | Im on 18.04 | 02:35 |
| sarnold | vlm: in my experience it's often squid that's stupid slow | 02:35 |
| vlm | sarnold: not installed though | 02:36 |
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| sarnold | vlm: hmm; I don't know anything rigorous for figuring it out; normally just watching the screen while it's shutting down would give some indication of what's taking a long time | 02:42 |
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| Geo | Hi, I have a python selenium script that uses chromedriver, used to work fine. I migrated to 20.04, and now I get the error "selenium.common.exceptions.WebDriverException: Message: unknown error: Chrome failed to start: exited abnormally". Googling leads me to believe this is an issue with chrome now being installed as a snap; and maybe an issue with it running on an encrypted drive. | 03:29 |
| Geo | Has anyone encountered issues similar to this before, resulting from the snap? | 03:29 |
| Geo | ...despite me installing it via apt :/ | 03:29 |
| sarnold | Geo: the deb postinst just installs it via snap | 03:29 |
| Geo | sarnold: yep, thats what i'm learning- and it messes stuff up apparently | 03:30 |
| sarnold | Geo: I suggest filing a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bugs?field.tag=snap -- and include DENIED lines from your kernel logs or auditd logs | 03:31 |
| Geo | yeah | 03:32 |
| Geo | I was hoping someone had a workaround in the meantime | 03:32 |
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| maiandros | someone helped me with a problem i was having yesterday, i don't remember who it was but i wanted to say thanks | 05:07 |
| maiandros | i ended up giving up on the udev route you suggested. i think i got the gist of what i was supposed to do, but it wasn't working out for me. but i finally fixed the issue nonetheless. | 05:07 |
| maiandros | but thanks again for offering to help with it. | 05:07 |
| lotuspsychje | maiandros: if you remember the nick, we can feedback to the volunteer | 05:08 |
| maiandros | i'm searching through the nicks but nothing is ringing a bell. i wish i had written it down. | 05:09 |
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| ducasse | lotuspsychje: that would be me :) | 06:46 |
| mgedmin | Geo: are you using wayland? chromium webdriver doesn't work in wayland currently, but it works in Xorg | 06:52 |
| mgedmin | although headless chromium I think should work? | 06:52 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1874415 | 06:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1874415 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] chromedriver doesn't work without --headless under Wayland" [Low,Confirmed] | 06:56 |
| foubarre | Hi everyone. Used to do that like 10 years ago, maybe not on ubuntu, but i need to do that again. I am in need to have a live ubuntu on my hard drive that i can persist when needed. Looked for some documentation in this but all found was pretty old. Any hint, please? | 07:00 |
| lotuspsychje | foubarre: you want chroot job? | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | foubarre: or a persistent ubuntu install | 07:04 |
| foubarre | lotuspsychje: a live one, that i can persist when needed. Used to use unionfs for that but can't find anny doc back. | 07:05 |
| RogerW | morning. new to unix, linux, and new to ubuntu. did a dual boot install on partitioned HDD. Installed Windows 10. Installed Ubuntu 20.4. Used Ubuntu directly after install it was fine. Then did first restart into windows. Then config dual boot with EasyBCD. Rebooting into Ubuntu after dual boot config. It stalls on a command. /dev/sda5: clean, | 08:01 |
| RogerW | 160364/6111232 files, 1869799/24413696 folders | 08:01 |
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| ledeni | RogerW, ubuntu install will find your windows 10 and set in grub you don't need set up with easyBCD to boot your windows 10. just need to press shift button to open grub menu | 09:04 |
| ledeni | RogerW, when you boot up your system | 09:07 |
| SoItBegins | I’m trying to upgrade to Focal LTS, but, uh... | 09:18 |
| SoItBegins | I’m on Disco, and the auto updater tool is refusing to do anything for me. | 09:18 |
| guiverc | SoItBegins, disco upgraded to eoan; eoan is now EOL so the upgrade tool is no longer helpful (you missed the window as the 9 month life cycle of eoan/19.10 is gone & now EOL too). Backup and re-install is best method | 09:19 |
| SoItBegins | I admit I haven’t turned the Ubuntu side of this PC on in a while. | 09:20 |
| SoItBegins | But there’s no OTA combo updater at all? D: | 09:20 |
| guiverc | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades use LTS or long-term-support cycles if you don't want to release-upgrade every 6-9 months required by non-LTS like 19.04 | 09:20 |
| SoItBegins | Yeah, this was me deciding to switch to LTS | 09:21 |
| guiverc | SoItBegins, a LTS has two upgrade paths; to the next release (18.04 -> 18.10) or to the next LTS, 18.04 -> 20.04. A non-LTS upgrades to the next release | 09:21 |
| guiverc | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 09:21 |
| SoItBegins | guiverc: OK, I get that, but why can’t I update the same way as download, but over the internet? | 09:21 |
| SoItBegins | Where it makes a self partition for the installer, switches to that, installs, cleans up after itself, bam? | 09:22 |
| guiverc | a re-install (something-else, no format) is actually easier let alone faster (esp. for desktops, more complex for server installs) | 09:22 |
| SoItBegins | I mean, that’s what I’m suggesting | 09:22 |
| geirha | It's possible to do it that way, but that would be a fresh install, not an upgrade. | 09:22 |
| SoItBegins | Just, a reinstall normally lives on a USB, right? | 09:22 |
| guiverc | SoItBegins, that's what the net installer does.. but it is somewhat more limited that a full installer | 09:22 |
| SoItBegins | Ah, OK. | 09:23 |
| SoItBegins | But I’m just wondering why the full installer has to be booted from USB as opposed to also having the capability to chunk out a partition and self install | 09:23 |
| guiverc | it can be made to boot from the disk (rather than media), but that's a little more technical than most users can deal with... you need to make your bootloader boot it (grub can, windows could on 2000-7 no idea about windows 10), but technical & fiddly | 09:24 |
| geirha | SoItBegins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux | 09:24 |
| SoItBegins | I have grub set up, with windows as a subsidiary bootloader | 09:24 |
| SoItBegins | geirha: Ooh, thank you | 09:25 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: actually you used to be able to do that, there was an installer where it'd download a USB image, run the installer, and install over the running system | 09:26 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: that was over 10 years ago, and it was as much of a pain in the backside as it sounds | 09:27 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: think "chainsaw with the throttle stuck, the clutch stuck, no bar dogs, no kickback loop and no chain brake, that sprays vapourised methamphetamine out the exhaust" levels of dangerous | 09:28 |
| SoItBegins | gordonjcp: H-uh. | 09:34 |
| SoItBegins | gordonjcp: Wait, did it reboot into itself, or just install live? | 09:38 |
| gordonjcp | it installed live | 09:38 |
| gordonjcp | remarkable bit of work, but bloody stupid | 09:38 |
| gordonjcp | phenomenally destructive if it went wrong | 09:39 |
| SoItBegins | It feels like it would have been simpler if it updated the partition table and rebooted into itself... | 09:40 |
| SoItBegins | though probably as destructive on a failure. | 09:40 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: yeah, but it's harder to do that | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: not all bootloaders are created equal :-) | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: your BIOS is expecting to be able to boot off an image on a USB stick in one way, and boot off an image on a floppy on another, and boot off a CD in a way roughly similar to the USB stick but not quite, and boot off a hard disk in yet another way | 09:42 |
| SoItBegins | XD Apple makes their self install process look so *easy* | 09:42 |
| SoItBegins | probably ‘cause they write the BIOS too. | 09:42 |
| gordonjcp | well, it's not that hard in Linux | 09:42 |
| gordonjcp | it only becomes hard if you want to also do stuff like dual-boot Windows, which deliberately makes things hard | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | Ah, yes. | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | I mean. | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | OK, so I remember when I set up dual boot windows... | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | There was a fun intermediate state where I had to enter several long and complex commands into grub | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | or into grub’s configuration file | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | I forget exactly | 09:43 |
| SoItBegins | before it would work properly | 09:43 |
| gordonjcp | yup | 09:45 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: it ought to be possible to make dual-booting easy, but the way that the Windows boot loader works is particularly weird and fragile | 09:45 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: it's almost like they really don't want people having more than one OS on | 09:46 |
| SoItBegins | I would say they _weren’t expecting_ to have more than one. | 09:46 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: in the olden days, my flatmate set up a PC for playing training videos on oil rigs, which came on CDs and played back through a dedicated MPEG decoder card | 09:46 |
| SoItBegins | But also, there’s the joke about microsoft engineers... | 09:47 |
| SoItBegins | Q. How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb? | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | the drivers for the card worked with one CD, but not the other, and if you updated the drivers it just swapped which CD worked | 09:47 |
| SoItBegins | A. Two. One to hold the ladder, and one to screw the lightbulb into a faucet. | 09:47 |
| SoItBegins | ... | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | there was no way to play both CDs on the same system | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | soooooo | 09:47 |
| SoItBegins | how many times did you have to swap drivers D: | 09:47 |
| SoItBegins | *did they | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | have you ever heard the term "Lateral thinking"? | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | https://www.edwddebono.com/lateral-thinking | 09:48 |
| SoItBegins | Dual boot, one with each driver set? | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | bingo | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | two partitions, two installs of Windows 95, two different drivers | 09:48 |
| SoItBegins | I knew it :D | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | but how do you make that "user friendly"? Bear in mind that GRUB wasn't a thing, lilo was *barely* a thing | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | well | 09:48 |
| SoItBegins | Two hard driiiives? Two floppy disks with differently configured boot loaders? | 09:49 |
| SoItBegins | IDK | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | you write a batch file that pipes commands into fdisk to toggle which partition is set active | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | and stick an icon on the desktop "SWITCH TO DISK 2", and "SWITCH TO DISK 1" | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | it'll switch the partition table's active flag over and then run a little 5-byte "reboot.com" to bounce the machine, and up it comes ready for the appropriate disk | 09:50 |
| SoItBegins | Wooow. | 09:51 |
| SoItBegins | Did they go on to develop GRUB or something? | 09:51 |
| gordonjcp | no, they went on to develop cannabis-induced mania but made a full recovery | 09:51 |
| SoItBegins | Oh. | 09:51 |
| gordonjcp | they got fired from a software dev job because they showed up either still a bit drunk or terribly hung over at around 11am | 09:52 |
| gordonjcp | and stayed until about 11pm, ordering in pizza and a 24-pack of McEwans Export at around 6pm once everyone had left | 09:52 |
| gordonjcp | often they'd be asleep in the breakout area when folk came in in the morning | 09:52 |
| gordonjcp | but they turned out code faster than anyone else, beautifully documented, unit tests before testing was thought of as essential as it is now | 09:53 |
| SoItBegins | ... | 09:53 |
| gordonjcp | (sorry, this is way OT for in here) | 09:53 |
| SoItBegins | I’m just thinking, like... | 09:53 |
| gordonjcp | eventually the American owners of the company got a bit pissed off with this, they're a bit funny about alcohol in the US | 09:53 |
| gordonjcp | and fired him | 09:53 |
| SoItBegins | Some companies nowadays would treat that guy like gold. | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | now the thing is every morning when he did roll in, he'd make everyone a coffee and bring in some nice biscuits | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | oh yeah totally, he was like the Brendan Behan of Pascal | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | true flawed genius | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | here's the thing though, the higher-ups fired him and everyone had to make their own 11am coffees | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | buuuuuut | 09:55 |
| SoItBegins | Morale declined? | 09:55 |
| SoItBegins | But? | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | he'd put decaff in the normal coffee tin (instant, yuck) | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | and been making the coffee from his secret stash of proper caffeinated Nescafe | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | and he'd been making it gradually stronger and stronger and stronger for months | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | so | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | sacked on a Monday | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | by Wednesday everyone's snapping at each other, had fights with their families, blinding headaches, no work getting done | 09:56 |
| gordonjcp | raging caffeine withdrawal | 09:56 |
| gordonjcp | in strolls my mate at 9am on Thursday, freshly showered and shaved, nice shirt | 09:56 |
| gordonjcp | makes a coffee for everyone, sits down at his desk | 09:56 |
| gordonjcp | starts to code | 09:56 |
| gordonjcp | by 10am, back on the payroll, just like it had never happened, he'd taken three days of annual leave | 09:57 |
| SoItBegins | :O | 09:58 |
| SoItBegins | I’m surprised everyone was having coffee every day though | 09:58 |
| gordonjcp | we drink a lot of coffee in the UK | 09:59 |
| SoItBegins | I mean, I know, just, more like... | 09:59 |
| SoItBegins | I’m in NA, and like, I try to avoid having coffee most days so that when I really need a boost, bust out the caffeine! | 09:59 |
| SoItBegins | (Also, my preferred coffee recipe has 2-3 heaping spoonfuls of sugar for an additional energy burst) | 09:59 |
| gordonjcp | I'm not massively into sugary things | 10:01 |
| Maik | casual talk belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic | 10:02 |
| SoItBegins | I should go to bed anyway :P | 10:02 |
| gordonjcp | Maik: yah, but why join another channel when no-one's talking in this one | 10:02 |
| SoItBegins | Thanks for the help and chat | 10:02 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: no worries | 10:02 |
| gordonjcp | SoItBegins: the long and short of it is, booting from USB is probably easiest, and setting up a netboot server is fun and definitely worth trying | 10:02 |
| Maik | gordonjcp: this is a support channel after all and it's mentioned in it's topic | 10:03 |
| SoItBegins | Thanks, but this computer is connected to the internet by a slightly unreliable USB wifi adapter | 10:03 |
| SoItBegins | I might actually make the USB if I can find one, given the difficulty of / possible issues with live updating - that instructional page… | 10:03 |
| SoItBegins | *that computer | 10:04 |
| SoItBegins | not this one | 10:04 |
| SoItBegins | anyway, thanks again and see you | 10:04 |
| Maik | o/ | 10:04 |
| lusrx | is apache preinstalled on ubuntu 20.04? how do i get rid of it? | 10:25 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: shouldn't be, why? | 10:27 |
| lusrx | gordonjcp: because i installed nginx and when i navigate to "localhost" i see "apache2 ubuntu default page" | 10:30 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: then you also installed Apache | 10:31 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: start from the beginning, what are you doing? | 10:32 |
| en1gma | i have a dell precision m4800 laptop and i think it has a spot where i can put a sim card. how can i tell if i have the actual hardware that supports it? 'lspci' what am i looking for that would talk about it | 10:40 |
| gordonjcp | en1gma: lsusb maybe | 10:44 |
| gordonjcp | (yes really) | 10:44 |
| en1gma | ok lemme try that. | 10:44 |
| gordonjcp | en1gma: hang on, I'm going to pop out to the car and see what my laptop says | 10:45 |
| en1gma | ok. i think i see this "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0a5c:5800 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor" | 10:46 |
| en1gma | but not sure if thats it | 10:46 |
| gordonjcp | nope | 10:46 |
| gordonjcp | gordonjcp@thevenin:~$ lsusb | 10:46 |
| gordonjcp | Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bdb:1911 Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV | 10:46 |
| gordonjcp | ^ is mine | 10:46 |
| en1gma | ok lemme look again | 10:47 |
| en1gma | ok i might not have one but i know i have a sim card slot. | 10:48 |
| gordonjcp | en1gma: a quick Google suggests that the factory stock card is Qualcomm | 10:48 |
| en1gma | so that dont mean i actually have the modem hardware though i dont think | 10:48 |
| gordonjcp | posssibly not | 10:49 |
| en1gma | i going to pull up a video to take a look. | 10:49 |
| en1gma | thanks for helping | 10:49 |
| gordonjcp | if you open the hatch at the bottom you'll probably see like a minipcie slot with two tiny tiny coax connectors near it | 10:49 |
| gordonjcp | none of my thinkpads had it as stock but they had the slot for the SIM behind the battery | 10:49 |
| lusrx | gordonjcp: i don't recall installing apache. this is ubuntu desktop, fwiw. i am installing nginx and testing if it works. | 10:55 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: okay, what else have you installed? | 10:55 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: if you've installed something like php it may have pulled in apache as well | 10:56 |
| lusrx | did not install php. it came installed already i think. 7.4. | 10:57 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: if you do "sudo apt-get remove apache* it ought to delete everything apache-related | 10:57 |
| gordonjcp | desktop wouldn't have apache installed | 10:57 |
| lusrx | i did install php-mysql | 10:57 |
| gordonjcp | well there you go | 10:57 |
| lusrx | you mean installing php-mysql also installs apache? | 10:58 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: I don't see apache as a dep for php-mysql but I'm not sure what else may have been pulled in | 10:58 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: also I'm not sure *how* you installed php-mysql so perhaps the instructions included apache, or something that pulls in apache | 10:59 |
| === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus | ||
| lusrx | "Apache is part of the popular LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) stack of software. It is included with the latest version of Ubuntu 18.04 by default." | 11:01 |
| lusrx | https://phoenixnap.com/kb/ubuntu-start-stop-restart-apache | 11:01 |
| lusrx | so that answers that question i guess. | 11:01 |
| osse | can't apt-cache or dpkg show the install reason for a package? | 11:02 |
| EriC^ | it's not included in the manifest for 18.04.5-desktop https://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.5-desktop-amd64.manifest | 11:02 |
| EriC^ | somewhere in /var/log/apt/history* it should say how it got installed | 11:03 |
| EriC^ | "zgrep -C4 apache /var/log/apt/history*" should show some info if it's there | 11:04 |
| lusrx | never mind how it got there. i was just surprised to see that i also have apache when i only knowingly installed nginx. how can i tell the system to use nginx instead? without uninstalling apache? im afraid i will break something if i try to remove apache. | 11:10 |
| EriC^ | lusrx maybe disable apache, sudo systemctl disable apache2 | 11:20 |
| lusrx | i think that worked. thanks! | 11:25 |
| EriC^ | lusrx no problem | 11:25 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: it's definitely not installed on a desktop install by default | 11:25 |
| lusrx | gordonjcp: maybe it's installed with php after all? it just seemed odd to me that after installing nginx i get a response from apache. either way, thanks for your help! | 11:28 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: yeah, I wonder if there's something else that got pulled in while installing php-mysql | 11:30 |
| gordonjcp | lusrx: php and nginx is a bit non-obvious incidentally | 11:30 |
| gordonjcp | at least if you're used to it in Apache where you just make sure that php is installed, the module is installed and the content-types are set, and let 'er rip | 11:31 |
| lusrx | running sudo apt upgrade gives me "waiting for cache lock: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. it is he..." | 12:12 |
| EriC^ | lusrx it's probably updating the system in the background, give it a few minutes to finish | 12:12 |
| lusrx | "it is held by process 2940" | 12:13 |
| lusrx | ok | 12:13 |
| lusrx | it took a while but it prompted me now and it's upgrade in progress. thanks! | 12:17 |
| EriC^ | np | 12:18 |
| === vlm_ is now known as vlm | ||
| Megabyte | Hello, everyone | 13:12 |
| Megabyte | I'd like to sponsor Ubuntu with a project | 13:13 |
| Megabyte | I want to sponsor an integrated apt GUI monitor into the Ubuntu interface | 13:13 |
| Megabyte | Who's an experienced coder here? | 13:13 |
| jpds | Megabyte: Basically what update-manager does? | 13:21 |
| Megabyte | jpds, nope. I noticed Ubuntu doesn't have this... | 13:22 |
| Megabyte | let me show you | 13:22 |
| Megabyte | jpds, https://imgur.com/5HkkgnA | 13:24 |
| jpds | Megabyte: That is literally what the software updater does | 13:24 |
| Megabyte | jpds, Why don't I see any dialog like that on the system tray when Ubuntu is updating the system? | 13:24 |
| jpds | Megabyte: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates | 13:25 |
| Megabyte | jpds, that only works specifically if the Software Updater program does | 13:26 |
| Megabyte | *if the Software Updater is running | 13:26 |
| Megabyte | If it isn't, you don't get any notification on the system tray that the system is being updated | 13:27 |
| Megabyte | you have to manually check apt, which is a pain in the ass | 13:27 |
| jpds | Oh right, well, that is the SUPPORTED gui way of updating ubuntu | 13:27 |
| Megabyte | I want a service that monitors apt and loads an apt monitoring program in the system tray automatically | 13:28 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:28 |
| Megabyte | whenever apt is running | 13:28 |
| Megabyte | Just tell the user, "hey, apt is running, and this is what's being installed" | 13:28 |
| jpds | If you're using APT, then you're probably already looking at a commend line prompt | 13:28 |
| Megabyte | But I don't want to look at the command prompt and I'm willing to sponsor a solution for this | 13:28 |
| Megabyte | Why do you guys make this so much more difficult than it has to be? | 13:28 |
| jpds | *shrug*, if you want a GUI, just use the software-updater | 13:28 |
| Megabyte | Even sponsoring you is difficult | 13:29 |
| jpds | I'm not making anything difficult | 13:29 |
| jpds | I'm just pointing out that it's already implemented in a different way | 13:29 |
| Megabyte | Who can help me implement this in the way I want? | 13:29 |
| Megabyte | And how much would it cost? | 13:29 |
| === popey3 is now known as popey | ||
| TJ- | Megabyte: 'you' (we) are just Ubuntu users like you, that help out when we can. You'd need to post to the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list on something like this | 14:10 |
| Megabyte | TJ-, I want to sponsor you, man | 14:12 |
| Megabyte | But it's so hard | 14:12 |
| TJ- | i only do half-marathons | 14:12 |
| ogra | TJ-, just do two in a row ! | 14:16 |
| TJ- | ogra: every day!? I'd never get chance to fix all the Ubuntu bugs :D | 14:16 |
| ogra | oh, yeah ... once a week should be enugh indeed | 14:17 |
| === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly | ||
| rotaerc | Does anyone have this problem? | 15:26 |
| rotaerc | When restart the computer, it will get stuck and report an error as follows, | 15:26 |
| rotaerc | ieee80211 phy0: brcmf_inetaddr_changed: fail to get arp ip table err:-52 | 15:26 |
| rotaerc | I see a similar question, but there is no answer. | 15:28 |
| rotaerc | https://askubuntu.com/questions/894271/brcmf-inetaddr-changed-fail-to-get-arp-ip-table-err-23 | 15:28 |
| === denningsrogue9 is now known as denningsrogue | ||
| === denningsrogue4 is now known as denningsrogue | ||
| code2be | Is it possible to see Ubuntu running on mobiles soon ? | 15:51 |
| ducasse | code2be: to some extent it already is, look up ubports | 15:59 |
| === jeddo- is now known as jeddo | ||
| code2be | @ducasse, Sounds great, just checked, thanks. | 16:01 |
| Kurozen | Hello | 16:28 |
| luna_ | hey | 16:28 |
| Kurozen | I need to change the default root and home partition in my storage drive section of Dolphin, hopefully I can do that! | 16:29 |
| Kurozen | the idea of "64GB Hard Drive" and "128 GB Hard Drive" labels is extremely confusing to me from being a Windows user used to C:\ | 16:30 |
| Kurozen | I only have 1 HDD, with 3 partition, so this is just not going to fly. | 16:30 |
| dami0 | hi, what's the best way of disabling ssh server during installation but having it enabled on the installed system? | 16:33 |
| arunpyasi | Hi there, netplan doesn't support/execute the hooks inside /etc/network/ ? | 16:35 |
| slyon | arunpyasi: Hi. No, but there are networkd-dispatcher hooks as an alternative: https://netplan.io/faq/#use-pre-up%2C-post-up%2C-etc.-hook-scripts those are placed in /etc/networkd-dispatcher/ | 16:37 |
| arunpyasi | slyon, oh, thats sad ;( | 16:38 |
| arunpyasi | So, its still not worked on till 2020 too? | 16:38 |
| arunpyasi | slyon, Also, does that mean NetworkManager dispatcher also doesn't work? | 16:39 |
| coconut | !fstab | Kurozen | 16:39 |
| ubottu | Kurozen: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions | 16:39 |
| slyon | arunpyasi: netplan supports the networkd and NetworkManager backends/renderers and the corresponding hooks accordingly, as described in the FAQ. It just does not support the legacy ifupdown backend and its hooks | 16:40 |
| arunpyasi | slyon, Oh I see. So, I will need to rewrite the hooks for NetworkManager dispatcher right? | 16:41 |
| opios | hi | 16:42 |
| slyon | arunpyasi: that depends. If you're using "renderer: NetworkManager" in your netplan YAML config, then yes. Otherwise (renderer: networkd), you'd need networkd-dispatcher hooks | 16:42 |
| mlok | Hello, I am using 16.04.2 LTS (Xenial Xerus) and each time I reboot NTP shows as "active (exited)" and I have to restart it each time after booting in order for it to work | 16:43 |
| yodawithstarbuck | Where can I get support with boot troubleshooting? | 16:47 |
| arunpyasi | slyon, thanks for clearing up my doubts :) | 16:51 |
| slyon | yw | 16:51 |
| renn0xtk9 | in my /etc/fstab I have a nfs share. When she is not reachable (remote PC is down) I would like to reduce the timeout (it is very long). I use soft,timeo=10 0 0 but it does not work . Anyone an idea? | 17:31 |
| TJ- | renn0xtk9: maybe it needs retry= as well, since soft,otime are recovery actions after retry has expired? | 17:40 |
| ducasse | renn0xtk9: add 'nofail' to options | 17:44 |
| renn0xtk9 | Tj,ducasse I have seen this option also x-systemd.device-timeout=10 and now I am confused about what is what | 17:47 |
| TJ- | renn0xtk9: that's a systemd.mount option | 17:48 |
| lvleph | I have been having issues with my keyboard settings, which were set in gnome-tweak tool being reset after every screen lock or suspend. When I open gnome-tweak tool it appears the settings are still in place, but the keyboard is not responding as it should. Unchecking a single setting and rechecking that same setting seems to cause all settings to | 17:48 |
| lvleph | be active again. | 17:48 |
| lvleph | This is happening on 20.04, btw. | 17:52 |
| TJ- | renn0xtk9: see man -P "/usr/bin/less '+/^[[:space:]]*x-systemd.mount-timeout='" systemd.mount | 17:57 |
| renn0xtk9 | Tj, okay hmm it is not clear what is the differnce between systemd mount and just runnning sudo mount | 17:59 |
| CheGuevara | TJ, you don't happen to be Tjololo from MTF? | 18:01 |
| === denningsrogue4 is now known as denningsrogue | ||
| Elodin | hi, how do i read which ubuntu version i'm running at? | 18:05 |
| leftyfb | Elodin: cat /etc/issue | 18:05 |
| leftyfb | Elodin: or lsb_release -a | 18:06 |
| mgedmin | or /etc/os-release | 18:06 |
| mgedmin | (which is a modern cross-distribution standard, at least for those distros that have switched to systemd) | 18:07 |
| Elodin | okay its 16.04 lts, how do i upgrade this to the latest lts? | 18:07 |
| mgedmin | IIRC you need to apt install some package to get lsb_release, which is annoying | 18:07 |
| compdoc | Elodin, I think if you do-release-upgrade, it upgrade to 18, and then you can ugrade to 20 | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | backup, remove ppas, make apt happy, do-release-upgrade | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | Elodin: sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade; sudo do-release-upgrade | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | Elodin: you'll need to do that twice, once to upgrade to 18.04 LTS, then to 20.04 LTS | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | haha the dock is stuck again | 18:10 |
| mgedmin | all I did was trigger the overview using the hot corner | 18:10 |
| Elodin | https://termbin.com/jnww i get these errors | 18:17 |
| Elodin | by apt update | 18:17 |
| mgedmin | it's a good idea to disable 3rd-party repositories before you upgrade | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | cran.rstudio.com is a 3rd-party repository | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | and the apt key you had for it has expired | 18:24 |
| Elodin | how do i do that? in the sources.list? | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | yes, or the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | do-release-upgrade will comment out all 3rd-party repos for you | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | for now you can ignore the error from apt update | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | do the the apt upgrade, this step is to be sure you have the latest update-manager before you run do-release-upgrade | 18:25 |
| Elodin | got some errors on the do-release-upgrade too | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | (and some upgrades require you to have a recent enough kernel) | 18:25 |
| Elodin | its asking me if i want to rewrite souces.list from xenial to bionic entries? i think yes? | 18:25 |
| Elodin | yep otherwise update cancels | 18:26 |
| Elodin | uh, its looking promising now thanks | 18:27 |
| lusrx | can i run exe file in ubuntu? | 18:27 |
| ducasse | !wine | lusrx | 18:28 |
| ubottu | lusrx: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 18:28 |
| lusrx | no it's not a windows exe file. at least i don't think it is. it's part of guest additions for virtualbox. | 18:29 |
| lusrx | when i mount the iso image in ubuntu and browse the contents i see items like "VBoxWindowsAdditions-amd64.exe" | 18:30 |
| pavlos | lusrx: guest editions have both win and linux files to run to install them, it depends on the host. | 18:31 |
| CheGuevara | there's several files in there for each OS | 18:31 |
| lusrx | ah ok that makes sense now. i see there is one file called autorun.sh. i probably need to run this one. | 18:32 |
| CheGuevara | I think I normally run sudo sh autorun.sh | 18:32 |
| lusrx | yes it worked! thanks :) | 18:33 |
| CheGuevara | =] | 18:33 |
| === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch | ||
| mgedmin | oh no | 18:37 |
| RandomGuyOnIrc | I am running putty on a windows machine. I log into a linux machine, start a tmux session, and try to disconnect with ctrl-b d. It won't disconnect. Does anyone know how to fix this? | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | pydoc uses __author__! | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | oops wrong channel | 18:53 |
| bdiddy | I had an application installed that SEEMS to have been moved from maybe /usr/bin to now /snap/bin/ does that make sense? | 19:11 |
| bdiddy | i don't think I've ever purposely used snap | 19:11 |
| bdiddy | and for some reason cron doesn't have /snap/bin in it's PATH so it screwed up one of my scripts | 19:12 |
| bdiddy | or am i goin crazy | 19:12 |
| mgedmin | bdiddy: can you be more specific? name the application | 19:13 |
| bdiddy | pdftk | 19:14 |
| mgedmin | some ubuntu packages (lxd, chromium) have been migrated to snaps (with a near-empty .deb wrapper), but pdftk is not one of them | 19:14 |
| mgedmin | pdftk is also available as a snap | 19:15 |
| bdiddy | maybe i originally installed it as a snap | 19:15 |
| bdiddy | but that would mean this cron script never ran! | 19:16 |
| bdiddy | lol | 19:16 |
| bdiddy | thats not making sense though | 19:16 |
| bdiddy | wonder why cron wouldn't know about /snap/bin if snap is the way of the ubuntu now | 19:16 |
| mgedmin | probably nobody thought about it (because nobody tried to run snaps from cron, or if they did, they didn't report it to ubuntu devs) | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | huh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/1779767 | 19:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1771858 in snapd (Ubuntu Cosmic) "duplicate for #1779767 /snap/bin not in default PATH for units, snapd should ship system-environment-generators to inject /snap/bin into $PATH" [Critical,Fix released] | 19:18 |
| bdiddy | ok thanks for the input. | 19:18 |
| bdiddy | oh hey | 19:18 |
| bdiddy | lol | 19:18 |
| === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson | ||
| bdiddy | thats the confusing part this script was working | 19:20 |
| bdiddy | then just stopped working | 19:20 |
| bdiddy | maybe an update did something | 19:20 |
| mgedmin | but that bug was closed as duplicate of a different bug that was closed as fix-released | 19:21 |
| mgedmin | so you should maybe comment that the cron part is _not_ fixed | 19:21 |
| bdiddy | yeah I'll do that my system is up to date | 19:21 |
| mgedmin | maybe crond gets a PATH that includes /snap/bin, but the default /etc/crontab explicitly overrides it | 19:21 |
| mgedmin | somehow this got overlooked | 19:22 |
| rneese | hey guys who maintains the repos | 19:52 |
| rneese | the hash on orca needs fixiing | 19:53 |
| rneese | https://pastebin.com/2e562D3q | 19:54 |
| rneese | II am gettiinng md2 haash errors | 19:55 |
| rneese | md5 | 19:55 |
| rneese | sorry | 19:55 |
| sarnold | rneese: I grabbed copies of that from all four IP addresses I see for ports.ubuntu.com and all four came back identical and with the same values you've got in your 'expected' https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YyprQpdbHc/ | 19:57 |
| rneese | ok so why is it erroring out | 19:58 |
| sarnold | rneese: the usual cause of this problem is a buggy http proxy somewhere; are you running a proxy on this machine? on your network? is your ISP running a proxy? (This happens much more often than you might think) | 19:58 |
| EriC^^ | rneese: your isp probably has a cached older version, you could try downloading manually or something using curl with some no-cache option | 19:59 |
| rneese | we are using ports.ubuntu.com | 19:59 |
| EriC^^ | try "curl -H 'Cache-Control: no-cache' http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/o/orca/orca_3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1_all.deb" | 20:01 |
| EriC^^ | then sha256sum orca*.deb to verify the file | 20:01 |
| rneese | bash: curl -H 'Cache-Control: no-cache' http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/o/orca/orca_3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1_all.deb: No such file or directory | 20:02 |
| EriC^^ | rneese: without the quotes | 20:03 |
| nikolam | HI, I didi mount /dev/sda3 to /mnt , where is my 20.10 BTRFS install and after mv @ @_old and system snapshot from @new to @ and reboot , now I can't remove @_old snapshot... it says "directory not empty" , when I try to do ' btrfs subvolume delete @_old ' to remove old system state from the snapshots.. Why would it refuse to delete it, if it is not used/not mounted? /etc/fstab is obviously using "@" subvolume again.. | 20:04 |
| rneese | brb boss is yelling | 20:05 |
| RingtailedFox | tell your boss to GFYS :P | 20:05 |
| RingtailedFox | "of course, i'll happily do that for ya if you can't..." | 20:06 |
| noobandnoober | Hi, does anybody knows if there is a way to install UBUNTU with full LUKS disk encryption on a Raspberry Pi 4 B?I've been trying since yesterday I always outdated stuff | 20:06 |
| noobandnoober | I only found outdated stuff* | 20:06 |
| nikolam | rm worked for removing @_old BTRF dataset that is left after rolling back to the snapshot. | 20:07 |
| EriC^^ | noobandnoober: what's the problem exactly? | 20:07 |
| nikolam | Btw problem arised with some kind of misaligned additional graphics drivers from the PPA, so I am back to Ubuntu-provided , after upgrade, without PPA. Thanks to BTRFS snapshots and apt-btrfs-snapshot to bring system state back before upgrades | 20:08 |
| noobandnoober | EriC^^ Well Luks is not available as an option while installing Ubuntu on a Raspberry pi, so you have to do it manually, the only stuff I found was for olders versions of ubuntu/debian, I've tried different methods to install luks but none of them works | 20:10 |
| Elodin | okay, i finished a release upgrade from 16 to 18 now im trying to go from 18 to 20 and i'm getting this message: https://termbin.com/ihm1 | 20:10 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: and, have you? | 20:10 |
| EriC^^ | noobandnoober: could you put the sdcard etc in a laptop and install to there? just an idea | 20:11 |
| Elodin | However sudo apt upgrade tells me: https://termbin.com/f3t9 tomreyn | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: also, please use full version numbers, don't makle us guess what you mean | 20:11 |
| nikolam | Elodin, you first finishing regularly updating 18.04 first.. | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | !uptodate | Elodin | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Elodin: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 20:11 |
| EriC^^ | Elodin: try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade then try again | 20:11 |
| noobandnoober | EriC^^ I could try, but aren't they using different architectures?(ARM for the raspberry, Intel/AMD for the laptop) do you think it'll still work? | 20:12 |
| nikolam | Or maybe first update, restart then upgrade | 20:12 |
| EriC^^ | noobandnoober: ah right, no they wouldn't | 20:12 |
| Elodin | EriC^^: https://termbin.com/e742 | 20:13 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: which installer were you using? | 20:13 |
| zzero1 | upgraded from zesty zapus to bionic Sth is seriously wrong with new way dns is being handled. To restart systemd-resolved takes over one minute. If disable the systemd-resolved (that takes a full minute as well) and populate the /etc/resolv.conf I have dns resolution. Suggestions on how to fix "with the new way" ? https://termbin.com/t27j https://termbin.com/2js1 | 20:15 |
| mgedmin | Elodin: what does apt list --upgradable print? | 20:16 |
| EriC^^ | noobandnoober: this seems to be suggested for encrypting ubuntu easily on a pi https://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot | 20:16 |
| noobandnoober | tomreyn noobs /raspberry pi imager with ubuntu desktop 20.10 | 20:17 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: i'm not familiar with this. did you download it here? https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi | 20:18 |
| noobandnoober | that was the same ISOs yes | 20:18 |
| Elodin | mgedmin: before doing a do-release i was instructed to remove 3rd party things from source.list https://termbin.com/tlit | 20:18 |
| noobandnoober | they didn't include LUKS on those installers | 20:18 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: and the 'something else' menu didn't offer encryption? | 20:18 |
| noobandnoober | nah I don't think it's supported out of the box on the Pi, there's always been some kind of manual setup to do, | 20:19 |
| tomreyn | you can give the server installer a try then | 20:19 |
| noobandnoober | but I'll try Eric link and get back to yall thanks | 20:19 |
| noobandnoober | thanks tomreyn | 20:19 |
| EriC^^ | Elodin: try sudo apt install r-cran-boot r-cran-codetools r-cran-spatial | 20:20 |
| EriC^^ | noobandnoober: np, goodluck | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: how did you upgrade? | 20:20 |
| === halvors1 is now known as halvors | ||
| linuxr | Hi all, so I get this notebook which runs well with latest ubuntu, but just the "Alt Gr" key does not appear to function at all .. any help? | 20:21 |
| zzero1 | well I changed the repos to bionic and did system update, upgrade and dist-upgrade | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: this is what the installer screen for luks encryption looks like on amd64 nowadays: https://i.imgur.com/ERgLfKC.png | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: i.e. you need to open this "advanced features" popup | 20:22 |
| zzero1 | upgrade went wrong ? | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: i don't know, i'm just wondering how well it could have went form this old EOL release | 20:24 |
| zzero1 | well the zapus repos were no longer there | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: if the system does come up, i'd start by cleaning up as much as possible, ensuring the proper kernel is running, making sure apt is happy and using the right sources for the very release you have. and to install apt-forktracer and ensure any leftover packages from old releases and old PPAs are gone | 20:25 |
| noobandnoober | tomreyn https://youtu.be/Lza1WWH9CYg yeah but the PI is ARM not AMD https://youtu.be/Lza1WWH9CYg?t=284 the install is slighty different | 20:25 |
| zzero1 | I'm currently running 4.15.0-122-generic | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: okay, i'm aware of the architectural difference, just am not aware of the installer differences. | 20:26 |
| zzero1 | previously had sth like 3.18-25 | 20:26 |
| zzero1 | apt was happy and is | 20:26 |
| zzero1 | and removed old kernels | 20:26 |
| tomreyn | good start zzero1 | 20:27 |
| zzero1 | Indeed | 20:27 |
| tomreyn | noobandnoober: i see what you mean, this looks like an oem install | 20:28 |
| zzero1 | I will be upgrading to the 20 lts but right now I want to postpone | 20:28 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: can you post a full system log? | 20:28 |
| tomreyn | i wouldn'T start the release upgrade, yet, if the system behaves unreliably | 20:29 |
| zzero1 | ie syslog ? | 20:29 |
| tomreyn | journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:29 |
| tomreyn | linuxr: have you double checked the keyboard layout is properly set? | 20:30 |
| zzero1 | https://termbin.com/ntzz | 20:30 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: do a bios update, if there is one. you're currently on ASUS All Series/B85M-G, BIOS 2501 07/22/2015 | 20:31 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: there's a memory allocation problem, which *may* be fixed by a bios upgrade. alternativerly, you can do: | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | !mtrr_cleanup | zzero1 | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | !mtrr | zzero1 | 20:32 |
| ubottu | zzero1: Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) is how an operating system learns which ranges of physical memory to cache, and how. If your log says "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value", read https://github.com/tomreyn/linux_mtrr_size_fix | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | to check whether this issue is gone after bios upgrade / release upgrade: journalctl -b | grep 'mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value' | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | (it's gone if there is no output) | 20:33 |
| linuxr | tomreyn, yeah, everything besides the left and right "alt"-keys works correctly | 20:34 |
| zzero1 | thanks for the suggestion | 20:35 |
| zzero1 | very usedul | 20:36 |
| zzero1 | *f | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: i'm not done, yet ;) you have a kernel oops there, in the intel graphics driver (again, bios upgrade *may* help, or a release upgrade, too). search you logs and the web for "Could not determine valid watermarks for inherited state" | 20:36 |
| zzero1 | I haven't really looked at the logs | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | the intel graphics driver is called "i915") | 20:37 |
| tomreyn | a couple acpi table parsing errors, too, may be solvable by bios upgrade | 20:38 |
| Elodin | okay i think i did something wrong: i was doing a do-release-upgrade and at some point it asked me to restart services, which i said yes. And it got stuck here: https://termbin.com/qyew | 20:38 |
| zzero1 | well thankfully there are "bios" updates | 20:39 |
| zzero1 | released | 20:39 |
| tomreyn | dnsmasq[4170]: bad name at /etc/hosts line 683948 | 20:40 |
| tomreyn | you have a pretty loing /etc/hosts | 20:40 |
| tomreyn | maybe the resolver issues are related? | 20:40 |
| zzero1 | that I do | 20:40 |
| zzero1 | do you believe I almost forgot about it ? | 20:41 |
| zzero1 | it's been about three years | 20:41 |
| zzero1 | since I used this device | 20:41 |
| tomreyn | no, i believe you did forget about it. :) | 20:41 |
| Elodin | what should i do? upgrade got stuck here: https://termbin.com/qyew should i restart it again? Or rather how can i connect to that tty again? | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: the lower part of you log just shows systemd-resolved.service restarting in a rrow because it fails to start up within the configured timeout (3min), probably dues to the /etc/hosts | 20:43 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: screen -x i think | 20:43 |
| zzero1 | lets see If I give it a rest with an empty hosts | 20:44 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: that's if it's a remote server and your network connection to it dropped | 20:44 |
| Elodin | nah, it was a common ssh session i wasnt using screen | 20:44 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: do-release-upgrade starts a screen session and an extra ssh daemon in a different port (i forgot which, though), though | 20:45 |
| Elodin | ohhh | 20:45 |
| Elodin | ill try to reconnect to that port then thanks | 20:45 |
| tomreyn | port 1022 | 20:45 |
| zzero1 | sudo mv /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.copy | 20:46 |
| Elodin | tomreyn: cant connect to that port tho [ssh user@ip -p 1022] just hangs the command | 20:47 |
| tomreyn | linuxr: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration and access settings -> region & language and ensure things are properly set. | 20:47 |
| Elodin | i can only connect to the regular one | 20:47 |
| tomreyn | Elodin: that should be good enough | 20:47 |
| tomreyn | so does sudo screen -x get you back on track? | 20:48 |
| zzero1 | when you forget who you have your system set up | 20:50 |
| zzero1 | facepalm | 20:50 |
| zzero1 | it was the hosts | 20:50 |
| Elodin | oh yeah tomreyn thanks | 20:51 |
| zzero1 | I wonder if it could be operational I move the hosts on the hosts deny | 20:51 |
| zzero1 | if | 20:53 |
| zzero1 | I'm guessing I created a bottleneck of sorts | 20:54 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: it should be much better to use a local dns server for this purpose | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | o rjust dnsmasq, which you are already running there anyways | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | or iptables + ipset. | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: i assume you found https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/Business/B85MG/HelpDesk_BIOS/ yet? | 21:01 |
| zzero1 | yes | 21:01 |
| zzero1 | or maybe I put this ultra large hosts file on my openwrt | 21:01 |
| NickBusey | So I just got the Nvidia drivers installed on 20.04, everything seemed good, but after a reboot, Nvidia seems to be only able to detect one of my displays, whereas before the reboot it had both. In the Nvidia driver settings app, it detects both GPUs, but both GPUs only have the option of the one display.. | 21:02 |
| NickBusey | Any ideas? | 21:02 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: "2. Improve system security and stability" sounds like a good enough reason to upgrade, i guess. | 21:02 |
| zzero1 | you are not wrong tomreyn | 21:05 |
| zzero1 | sorry | 21:05 |
| mlok | Hello, I am using Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS and after each reboot the NTP SystemD service shows as active (exited) | 21:05 |
| mlok | However I need it to be active (running) | 21:05 |
| mlok | Has anybody encountered this before? | 21:05 |
| sarnold | mlok: check the logs for the service, see why it exited | 21:06 |
| tomreyn | mlok: please install the pending security updated from the past ~2.5 years | 21:06 |
| zzero1 | wouldn't it be anti-systemic I continue to use dnsmasq ? | 21:07 |
| mlok | tomreyn: it's a security update? | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | *updateS | 21:07 |
| mlok | tomreyn: which one exactly? | 21:07 |
| mlok | *which exactly | 21:07 |
| mlok | to be specific | 21:07 |
| NickBusey | Hah, ok. Both displays work, I can move my mouse onto the second display, it just shows an X as my cursor. Dragging windows to it doesn't work, everything is black but the X where the mouse is | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | mlok: i do not know whether this is caused by a missing security or functional update. but you are certainly missing a LOT there, and it's hardly worth searching for an error before you upgraded the system. | 21:08 |
| tomreyn | that's unless sarnold would liek to help you with it | 21:08 |
| mlok | tomreyn: ok because the NTP SystemD service does start "Started LSD: Start NTP daemon" it is just listed as exited rather than running, but thank you for the security update info | 21:09 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: i don't see why continuing to use dnsmasq is wrong | 21:09 |
| sarnold | if there's updates that need installing, that's best t ohandle that first :) | 21:10 |
| tomreyn | "Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS", so there should be | 21:10 |
| sarnold | but a quick apt update && apt upgrade can take care of that -- while it's running, you can read the logs, and see if they say anything obvious or not :) | 21:10 |
| mlok | sarnold: best way to check which security updates are available? | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | an updated system would report that it is Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS | 21:11 |
| mlok | tomreyn: ok thanks | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | mlok: he just explained how to check for security updates | 21:12 |
| tomreyn | add sudo to both 'apt' commands, though | 21:12 |
| mlok | tomreyn: yeah I mean a method without using apt update && upgrade | 21:12 |
| tomreyn | mlok: hmm maybe ubuntu-support-status | 21:13 |
| mlok | thank you very much :) | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | but this may be half broken on 16.04 | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | just do the updates | 21:14 |
| mlok | ok :) | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | i hope this system is not connected to the internet? | 21:14 |
| mlok | tomreyn: local host | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | ok | 21:15 |
| zzero1 | If I'm to continue using dnsmasq I should be disabling systemd-resolved and the netplan. Right ? | 21:15 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: oh, you'Re right, you probably want one or the other, sorry. | 21:16 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: is this a headless erver then? | 21:17 |
| tomreyn | *server | 21:17 |
| zzero1 | I say that it isn't but I happen to operate a lot remotely | 21:17 |
| zzero1 | so ... | 21:17 |
| zzero1 | it has xfce | 21:18 |
| zzero1 | I use it on occasion | 21:18 |
| zzero1 | maybe via ssh | 21:18 |
| zzero1 | hahah | 21:18 |
| RonaldsMazitis | hey, anybody who knows how to deal with linux servers could take a look at my syslog and see why my PC overheat and turned off? | 21:19 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I don't really believe just uploading video to youtube is enough for this to happen but maybe it's just aggresive chrome | 21:20 |
| tomreyn | server...chrome? | 21:21 |
| ChmEarl | RonaldsMazitis, if the system is over 7 years old consider a new application of thermal paste.. maybe dirty fan and heat sink | 21:21 |
| RonaldsMazitis | tomreyn: it's also a desktop/laptop | 21:23 |
| RonaldsMazitis | it's been to remont few years ago, when I had to get new keyboard | 21:23 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: normally systemd-networkd + netplan are used on headless servers, network-manager on desktops - that's why i asked. | 21:24 |
| tomreyn | but you could use either with a local dns cache | 21:24 |
| zzero1 | It's a mixed usage basically | 21:24 |
| RonaldsMazitis | "DHCPREQUEST of 78.84.29.150 on enp3s0 to 78.84.0.1 port 67 (xid=0x79e11b7e)" | 21:25 |
| RonaldsMazitis | what could this mean\ | 21:25 |
| sarnold | RonaldsMazitis: that's a machine on th enetwork asking for an IP address | 21:26 |
| zzero1 | my hosts is quite big for systemd-resolved ? | 21:27 |
| RonaldsMazitis | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7bXN5XdZgg/ | 21:27 |
| RonaldsMazitis | what does apollo.lv want from me | 21:31 |
| RonaldsMazitis | ? | 21:31 |
| isapgswell | hi everyone | 21:36 |
| sarnold | RonaldsMazitis: you'd have to ask whoever runs the dhcp server on 78.84.0.1 | 21:36 |
| isapgswell | anyone experienced gdm lagging login screen, and afte login too | 21:36 |
| isapgswell | like 10fps | 21:36 |
| isapgswell | i my case i am running ubuntu 20.04 LTS updated with nvidia 450.80 driver | 21:37 |
| isapgswell | nvidia prime profile ondemand on external monitor via HDMI | 21:37 |
| isapgswell | my 50% solve is to put: | 21:37 |
| isapgswell | export CLUTTER_VBLANK=none | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | export vblank_mode=0 | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | xrandr --auto | 21:38 |
| tomreyn | !paste | isapgswell | 21:38 |
| ubottu | isapgswell: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | inside .profile | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | video lag has gone | 21:38 |
| isapgswell | thunderbolt port this i not necessary | 21:39 |
| isapgswell | $HOME/.profile | 21:39 |
| isapgswell | customize | 21:39 |
| tomreyn | !enter | isapgswell | 21:40 |
| ubottu | isapgswell: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. | 21:40 |
| isapgswell | ubottu ok sorry | 21:40 |
| isapgswell | ubottu this is a important "bug" for gamers | 21:40 |
| RonaldsMazitis | sarnold: so what did that server wanted to do? | 21:41 |
| tomreyn | RonaldsMazitis: what's the problem you're trying to solve? | 21:44 |
| sarnold | RonaldsMazitis: that server is giving you the domain name so that when you try to look up 'www' your dns system will probably start with 'www.apollo.lv'; 'www.google.com' is turned into 'www.google.com.apollo.lv', etc | 21:44 |
| RonaldsMazitis | why apollo.lv | 21:49 |
| RonaldsMazitis | that's a big news outlet | 21:50 |
| RonaldsMazitis | it's not even my domain name or anything | 21:50 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I take subdomain from no-ip | 21:50 |
| tomreyn | it's what your isp thinks you should look at more often | 21:50 |
| tomreyn | because it's their website. | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | you can configure your dhcp client to ignore (supersede, or remove) the "domain" option passed by the dhcp server | 21:53 |
| tomreyn | e.g. interface "eno1" { supersede domain-name ""; } (for network interface "eno1") in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf | 21:57 |
| RonaldsMazitis | tomreyn: cool but what is this | 22:00 |
| RonaldsMazitis | Server returned error NXDOMAIN, mitigating potential DNS violation DVE-2018-0001, retrying transaction with reduced feature level UDP. | 22:00 |
| tomreyn | something else entirely | 22:00 |
| tomreyn | this is not the "you post random lines from your logs and someone spend the time to explain all of them to you while you could just as well have looked them up on a search engine" channel.- | 22:01 |
| RonaldsMazitis | sorry | 22:01 |
| tomreyn | if you searched online, seriously tried to understand something, and still cuold not, then you're welcome to ask here. | 22:02 |
| tomreyn | also read the man pages | 22:02 |
| RonaldsMazitis | yeah, I'm just not finding anything that gives me information on why it turned off | 22:02 |
| tomreyn | why what turned off? | 22:03 |
| RonaldsMazitis | it could be php cleaning session files | 22:04 |
| RonaldsMazitis | that turned off my laptop/server/desktop ;p | 22:04 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I be honest I have very small space left | 22:05 |
| RonaldsMazitis | like 4GB or something | 22:05 |
| RonaldsMazitis | it's just that I really don't have that much traffic and people don't save files on server, to overdue my limits | 22:06 |
| tomreyn | zzero1: your hosts file is pretty large for anything that could interpret it. | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | (and it contains syntactical errors) | 22:16 |
| pavlos | RonaldsMazitis: is your /etc/resolv.conf a sym.link? | 22:40 |
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