[00:19] <RoseBus> nice i just created some nvidia profiles for dimmed/bright screen and created shortcuts in my ~/bin/ to switch between them
[00:19] <RoseBus> i love Ubuntu
[00:39] <YWH_1> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/11/body-found-in-canada-identified-as-neo-nazi-spam-king/
[00:47] <gandsnut> How can I disable the "mouse-over pop-up text window" on 18.04.1 MATE desktop?
[00:48] <sarnold> gandsnut: you may wish to ask in #ubuntu-mate , there's a larger concentration of mate users in there I think
[00:48] <sarnold> (maybe not actually more, but the concentration is probably different :)
[00:49] <gandsnut> sarnold:  thx, will go there.
[00:56] <Maik> sarnold: not too much going on in #ubuntu-mate.  :)
[00:57] <sarnold> Maik: oh no :(
[00:58] <Maik> not sure where they all hang out for support
[01:15] <kinghat> anyone know of a snap permission for chromium that one can enable to make PWAs/website shortcuts function properly?
[02:27] <MannyLNJ> Not sure if i should ask here or in VirtualBox. I am trying to install virtual box by doing sudo apt-get install virtualbox and it starts throwing errors. The first one is ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.8.0-7625-generic is not supported
[02:29] <g_ma10> any chance your kernel is too new for vbox ?
[02:30] <MannyLNJ> g_ma10, I don't know to be honest.
[02:31] <g_ma10> check on vbox website.
[02:32] <g_ma10> check if there's docmented install procedure for the ubuntu version  you're running, judging by the kernel, it's fairly recent.
[02:35] <MannyLNJ> q_mal0 I'm looked briefly and can't find any requirements However I found something that will let me work around the issue that was occuring making me need virtualbox
[02:37] <g_ma10> even better. look into KVM for virtualzing, if need arrises. supported 'out of the box' on Linux.
[02:41] <MannyLNJ> g_ma10, I will. I was looking for a quick and dirty way to get Windows 10 installed so I could get the same version of Thunderbird installed as I have on Windows so I could share one profile. The apt-get install route was intalling an older version. I tried the SNAP and SNAP installer isn't working right so I do have something wrong with my system. I will work on that late in the week when I am done with classes.
[03:14] <g_ma10> MannyLNJ: win10 will install on KVM without issues, it not be as nice as vbox, but you'll get what you need out of it. your problem of course - is needing windows to begin with :)
[03:15] <g_ma10> I needed win10 as well a few years back, to install musical noation software, silly thing to do at the time, but sometimes there's no choice :|
[03:16] <jayjo> I'm trying to passthrough a NIC to a VM, and this says "replaceing "eth3" with the netdev name of your own SR-IOV device's PF" - https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#PCI_Passthrough_of_host_network_devices , how do I lookup that name on my machine?
[03:17] <jayjo> I tried using the device names from `ip addr show`, like enp2s0, but that gives me "No usable Vf's present on SRIOV PF enp2s0"
[03:18] <sarnold> jayjo: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/virtualization-libvirt
[03:18] <sarnold> jayjo: look for vfio on that page
[03:28] <jayjo> sarnold: thanks for the resource, hadn't come upon creating these yet. I'm just trying to passthrough an ethernet port that is unmanaged by the host, and will be used by one dedicated VM. Do I only need one VF?
[03:31] <sarnold> jayjo: oh, hmm, sorry, I don't know if there's anything different in that case or not, or if it's possible, etc
[03:34] <TJ-> !info mvdevctl | jayjo can this help confirm the device functions are exposed?
[03:34] <TJ-> hmmph
[03:34] <TJ-> oh!
[03:35] <TJ-> !info mdevctl | jayjo can this help confirm the device functions are exposed?
[03:37] <sarnold> TJ-: oh good call
[03:39] <jayjo> actually, sorry, I don't believe my card is SR-IOV capable. Is that the only way to passthrough the ethernet, unconfigured on the host, to a VM? Reading more on the VFs it seems like multiple VMs can appear connected to the same physical network if the SR-IOV is enabled. Is the only option then to bridge?
[03:41] <TJ-> jayjo: you can pass-through an entire PCI device; SR-IOV is more to do with making one physical device appear as multiple (virtual function) devices
[03:46] <derpadmin> anyone interrested to deploy their own chat server on ubuntu 20.04?
[03:46] <derpadmin> i'm working on a thing... it is offtopic so i'll stop here
[04:05] <TuxCrazy> hello, how do xanmod and liquorix kernels affect the laptop battery life?
[04:08] <sarnold> TuxCrazy: I've never heard of those; I'm by no means omniscient, but I suspect you'll need to ask elsewhere, or try it and find out, etc
[04:08] <TuxCrazy> sarnold, ok
[04:26] <derpadmin> nobody want their own chat server :(
[04:27] <derpadmin> it's free as in free beer
[04:27] <krytarik> derpadmin: Please, no advertizing here.
[04:27] <derpadmin> I ask here because I only tested it on ubuntu 20.04
[04:27] <derpadmin> ack
[04:37] <MsDev> Hey
[04:41] <MsDev> Any console music players around?
[04:41] <sunrunner20> ok I know its a handout but what do I need to install/do to make an SD card reader work and mount in ubuntu server 20.04
[04:44] <sunrunner20> its a bone stock install in a bonestock vmware workstation 15 vm
[04:45] <sunrunner20> https://i.imgur.com/3mnKr2k.png
[05:25] <jazzyprophet> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu. Would anyone be able to help answer a question regarding partitions during install?
[05:27] <sunrunner20> nm
[05:28] <sunrunner20> it was faster to install xubuntu
[05:38] <UG7> hi
[05:39] <UG7> quit
[05:39] <UG7> q
[05:39] <UG7> \LEAVE
[05:42] <Blade-Runner> turn your slash / this way
[05:42] <Blade-Runner> nevermind :)
[07:03] <ace_me> hi all. I did download blender on ubuntu 20, unzipped it and launch. It works but I would like to make a shortcut or something to launch it easier. There is a blender.desktop in the same unzip folder which only edit when launched (double click) . Changed +x also on it... Any help / hint would really help me . Thank you
[07:04] <EriC^^> ace_me: try to right click it and choose properties then click on 'allow launching '
[07:04] <ace_me> that makes no difference. Already tried
[07:05] <EriC^^> try to put it in ~/.local/share/applications/
[07:06] <ace_me> EriC^^:  :( I've tried that too. After i put it there how to run it from nautilus ?
[07:08] <ace_me> trying to double click on it in the nautilus from ~/.local/share/applications/ is stil editing it
[07:09] <EriC^^> ace_me: can you pastebin its contents? cat ~/.local/share/applications/blender.desktop | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:09] <ace_me> https://termbin.com/3ftr
[07:09] <EriC^^> ace_me: what happes if you drag its icon to the dash/launcher?
[07:12] <ace_me> what is dash launcher
[07:12] <EriC^^> ace_me: it works for me here to double click, must be something to do with your ubuntu version, some people also had issues with launching some files
[07:13] <EriC^^> it's the thing at the bottom https://i.stack.imgur.com/vjcwH.png
[07:14] <ace_me> EriC^^: icons bar at the bottom of my ubuntu does not allow me to drag it there
[07:14] <ace_me> it jumps back in the .local/share/application folder and does not remain sticked there
[07:15] <ace_me> my ubuntu 20 is an upgrade from 18.04 I think
[07:15] <ace_me> not sure if is related
[07:15] <EriC^^> ace_me: try typing sudo desktop-file-install blender.desktop
[07:15] <EriC^^> then type 'nautilus /usr/share/applications'   and try to launch it from there
[07:16] <EriC^^> ace_me: did you do both of these steps? https://i.stack.imgur.com/OaeIx.png https://i.stack.imgur.com/VUaAb.png
[07:16] <ace_me> EriC^^:  same editing of the file
[07:17] <ace_me> i usr/share/applications I cannot set allow execute as it is greyed
[07:18] <ace_me> it say you are not the owner so you cannot change these perms
[07:18] <EriC^^> ace_me: try typing 'sudo -H nautilus /usr/share/applications'
[07:18] <EriC^^> i just thought of something, you could always copy another working desktop file from there to your home dir, and modify it to launch blender and rename it etc
[07:19] <ace_me> EriC^^:  it was opened with another editor but same behaviour
[07:19] <ace_me> sudo -H nautilus /usr/share/applications
[07:20] <EriC^^> ace_me: what does 'ls -l /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop' give?
[07:21] <ace_me> EriC^^:  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5625 nov 11 09:15 /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop
[07:21] <EriC^^> ace_me: ok, type 'sudo rm /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop'
[07:22] <ace_me> done
[07:23] <EriC^^> ace_me: then pick any desktop file that is working there
[07:23] <ace_me> edit and see
[07:23] <ace_me> thx Eric
[07:23] <ace_me> will tell you in a minute
[07:23] <EriC^^> and make a copy of it 'sudo cp /usr/share/applications/some-file.desktop /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop
[07:23] <EriC^^> ok
[07:23] <EriC^^> change the Exec= and Name=
[07:24] <EriC^^> and TryExec= if it has one as well
[07:32] <ace_me> EriC^^:  it should appear also when I type blender as it happend with zoom... at top of the screen or not ?
[07:32] <ace_me> the new copied file I mean
[07:32] <EriC^^> ace_me: yup it should show the new Name=
[07:33] <ace_me> EriC^^:  It does not appeart
[07:34] <EriC^^> ace_me: what happens if you try to double click the icon in nautilus?
[07:35] <ace_me> is editing the file
[07:35] <ace_me> but any of those desktop files are edited when I click on them
[07:36] <ace_me> however if I pres the flag on the keyboard and type Zoom it starts
[07:37] <EriC^^> ace_me: what's the contents of the file currently? 'cat /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop | nc termbin.com 9999'
[07:41] <ace_me> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/hdl1
[07:45] <EriC^^> ace_me: if you press the flag and type Zoom, blender is starting? or you meant zoom?
[07:45] <ace_me> was cat /usr/share/applications/blender_2.83.desktop | nc termbin.com 9999 EriC^^
[07:46] <ace_me> I can press and type zoom or Zoom and it is launched
[07:46] <EriC^^> zoom is launched?
[07:46] <ace_me> yes
[07:47] <EriC^^> if you type blender, does the name show up?
[07:47] <mgedmin> well that was fun, I typed 'lxc list' in a terminal and my gui session crashed
[07:48] <mgedmin> nothing in /var/crash, no smoking gun in journalctl
[07:48] <EriC^^> ace_me: try to change the Exec=/home/youruser/Documents....
[07:50] <ace_me> let's leave it
[07:50] <ace_me> it is the same
[07:50] <ace_me> it should be something else
[07:50] <ace_me> is not displayed in the run after pressing flag and the system does not see it
[07:50] <ace_me> that' probably the main issue
[07:52] <EriC^^> still though i dont know if Exec parses "~" as bash can, probably a good idea to change it
[07:52] <nsaunders> how do I start bitcoin-cli? I just downloaded bitcoin-core with snap
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: snap info bitcoin-cli will give you the support url
[07:57] <EriC^^> ace_me: i'd try to log out and back in, in case it starts to pick it up in the search
[07:57] <ace_me> something happen and it works now
[07:57] <EriC^^> ah great :D
[07:57] <EriC^^> did you have to change the "~" ?
[07:58] <ace_me> maybe some service refreshed in the background or I did not first seen the icon when I typed as it was initialy with zoom icon ?
[07:58] <ace_me> who knows
[07:58] <ace_me> soryy for bothering you and thank you
[07:58] <ace_me> now is without that ~
[07:58] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: snap info bitcoin-core, that is
[08:02] <nsaunders> lotuspsychje: thx
[09:02] <nsaunders> how do I connect bitcoin-core to other nodes?  I installed from snap
[09:18] <dami0> hi, how do i disable sshd during installation with subiquity?
[10:09] <EriC^^> dami0: if you can get a terminal "sudo systemctl stop ssh" should do it
[10:12] <dami0> EriC^^: thanks, i'm using packer so i'll try it in early-commands
[10:12] <EriC^^> dami0: alright, np
[10:41] <cousteau> Hi!  Is it possible to change the boot splash screen for a text-based one?  Nvidia drivers have this issue where they aren't loaded until the very end of the boot process, so I only get to see the splash screen for a split second
[10:41] <cousteau> rest of booting shows a black screen
[10:42] <cousteau> and I *guess* that setting the splash screen to a text-based one (or a no-X, no-plymouth one) will display stuff even without the Nvidia driver loaded
[10:47] <jeremy31> cousteau: edit /etc/default/grub and remove splash from the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[10:47] <cousteau> ok... but that will just display a lot of text on the screen, not a pretty (text-based) splash screen, right?
[10:47] <cousteau> or wrong?
[10:48] <cousteau> worth a try though
[10:48] <jeremy31> cousteau: it might show some text
[10:51] <cousteau> ok, will try.  Then what?  update-grub2?
[10:54] <cousteau> brb trying this
[10:56] <lkh> Does anyone have issues with *screen* on recent installs? Mine crashes whenever I try to reattach to a previously detached session.
[11:03] <Vooloo> how do I create a bootable usb in ubuntu 18.04? The "make startup disk" is greyed out when trying startup disk creator
[11:03] <jeremy31> Vooloo: did you select and ISO file and USB in options?
[11:05] <Kurozen> Hello
[11:06] <Kurozen> Anyone knows off the top of their head at which version llvm-clang started supporting C++17 ?
[11:09] <Kurozen> http://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html
[11:09] <Kurozen> Oh I guess they consider version 5, although some specifics are at 7, 8 and later
[11:09] <lkh> Vooloo: dd if=<your-imag.iso> of=<path of your USB device>
[11:12] <cousteau> jeremy31, well, at least now it does show text... but I'd rather have a fancier thing.  Will keep trying.  Thanks!
[11:12] <mgedmin> cousteau: IIRC there are several plymouth themes in the archive, some of them intended for text mode
[11:13] <mgedmin> I'm fuzzy on how exactly you switch between them or indicate that you prefer text to graphics
[11:14] <cousteau> I have two themes named plymouth-theme-[x]ubuntu-text.  I would have thought that those are the text-based splash screen themes
[11:14] <cousteau> yeah I'd like to know how to switch to those too.  I'm not even entirely sure those ARE the text-based splash themes
[11:18] <mgedmin> afaiu plymouth notices if it's running in text mode or not and then uses either the text theme or the graphics theme
[11:18] <cousteau> ...it seems that the -text one is not shown in `sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth`; must be just a companion theme or something
[11:19] <mgedmin> perhaps the way to switch to text is to tweak grub or kernel configuration?
[11:19] <cousteau> ok so the problem is that this IS running in graphic mode, but displaying nothing
[11:19] <cousteau> yeah, probably
[11:19] <cousteau> gonna try this first though https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases/
[11:19] <mgedmin> this is the sort of thing where I'd be a bit afraid of experimenting in case I break my boot
[11:20] <cousteau> (hope it still applies to my Ubuntu version)
[11:20] <mgedmin> maybe it would be a good idea to experiment in a VM
[11:21] <cousteau> yeah, first thing I got after rebooting was a complete PC freeze on the login screen (mouse frozen, keyboard unresponsive, RSEISUB not working...) but I managed to reboot the laptop and it worked fine
[11:21] <cousteau> it's an issue I have frequently, so probably not related with me messing with the grub
[11:22] <cousteau> ok brb gonna reboot to ask grub a couple of things
[11:35] <cousteau> ...on the plus side, I didn't brick my laptop
[11:36] <cousteau> but I still didn't get a splash screen :(  I tried following the instructions in https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases/
[11:36] <corsair> Hi guys I'm trying to add a udev rule to change the owner of the backlight device of my laptop. but the rule doesn't look to work.
[11:38] <cousteau> I used a resolution of 1920x1080, which might not be supported by my graphics card in super-basic-mode.  Anyway I didn't manage to get grub to tell me which video modes it supports
[11:38] <corsair> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="backlight", KERNEL=="intel_backlight", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"
[11:38] <cousteau> corsair, can you paste the rule on some pasting site?
[11:38] <cousteau> ah ok
[11:38] <cousteau> and, are you on the video group?
[11:39] <corsair> yes
[11:39] <corsair> rules is in /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:39] <corsair> named 99-backlight.rules
[11:41]  * cousteau is not an expert in udev but has used it before
[11:41] <corsair> if I ls the device /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight it show as root root
[11:42] <corsair> even after restart
[11:42] <cousteau> ...well, at least you can sudo chown it after reboot, so that it works until the next time you reboot
[11:43] <corsair> what I'm trying to achieve is to get it owned by the group video so that I can controll brightness without using sudo
[11:44] <corsair> I
[11:45] <corsair> I've aslo tried to write other test rules that simply log a timestamp when I plug my battery charger
[11:45] <corsair> but not even that rule seem to be triggered :-(
[11:45] <corsair> I haven't written rules before so I do not know If I'm doing something wrong in the first place
[11:46] <corsair> ACTION=="change", SUBSYSTEM=="power_supply", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/test.sh"
[11:46] <corsair> this is the "test" rule
[11:47] <corsair> the test script simply add a line in a tmp file
[11:47] <corsair> I can run test.sh from whell
[11:47] <corsair> shell*
[11:47] <ogra> corsair, and where did you get the names for these variables ? (KERNEL, SUBSYSTEM etc) ...
[11:47] <corsair> and it works but it never get triggered
[11:47] <corsair> udevadm monitor
[11:47] <corsair> udev monitor --environment --udev
[11:48] <ogra> you might need to pick other vars, you likely operate on a wrong layer
[11:48] <corsair> to be precise
[11:48] <heeen> where does the zfs module come from
[11:48] <heeen> is it built into the kernel, or from -modules or -modules-extra
[11:49] <corsair> ogra: what do you mean?
[11:53] <ogra> corsair, if you used --environment you might need to use ENV{key} in your rule ... KERNEL for example matches devices in /dev not really some su node in sysfs
[11:53] <ogra> *sub
[11:54] <ogra> see "man 7 udev"
[11:55] <corsair> ok before I dive deep again: is it correct that I di not need to explicitelly load new rules?
[11:55] <corsair> udevadm control --reload
[11:56] <corsair> is suggested in some guides
[11:56] <corsair> is it really necessary?
[11:56] <heeen> whats the easiest way to get a current kernel that has the modules of the maintained kernel (aufs for docker, zfs)
[11:57] <EriC^^> heeen: which ubuntu are you on?
[11:58] <ogra> corsair, in older releases it used to be, but not anymore ...
[11:58] <heeen> EriC^^: kde neon 5.20, so focal
[11:58] <ogra> (older -> pre 2016 iirc)
[11:58] <EriC^^> !hwe | heeen
[11:59] <EriC^^> !mainline | heeen those are 2 easy options
[11:59] <corsair> OK thank you!
[11:59] <heeen> EriC^^:I just had 5.9.8 booted from the kernel-ppa archive but it did not have zfs or aufs
[11:59] <heeen> and I don't know what else, those were the two things that immediatelöy failed
[12:01] <EriC^^> heeen: try "sudo apt install zfsutils-linux aufs-tools"
[12:02] <ogra> the mainline kernels are really only for verification of bugs they are neither maintained nor do they see any security fixes ... do not use them for more than checking of features or bugs ...
[12:03] <ogra> and yes, they are lacking all ubuntu additions, they are plain mainline
[12:04] <heeen> EriC^^: those are already installed of course as it works on 5.4
[12:04] <heeen> thanks ogra
[12:04] <cousteau> corsair, as I said I have no expertise on the topic, but the one time I wrote a successful udev rule it looked like   ATTRS{idVendor}=="03fd", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0008", MODE="666"   but this was for a USB device
[12:06] <cousteau> (this worked because the vendor:product ID of the USB device was 03fd:0008, as reported by lsusb; in your case this probably doesn't apply)
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:15] <sammyg1321> Hi Ubuntu'ers, I have a question, i have a ASUS ROG STRIX G512 and for some reason my fn keys dont seem to work. i was looking at some askubuntu links but im not sure they'd work for my model. Any clues?
[13:16] <cousteau> which Fn keys don't work?  All of them?
[13:16] <cousteau> like, Fn-digits as well?  volume keys?  Fn-Del for Ins and stuff like that?
[13:17] <cousteau> or only the super weird keys such as brightness, airplane mode, suspend, etc?
[13:17] <sammyg1321> Like brightness up and down for example
[13:17] <sammyg1321> Yeeee
[13:17] <sammyg1321> Like for example F7 is brightness down...dont work
[13:17] <sammyg1321> F1 which is mute works
[13:17] <sammyg1321> So id say its just the brightness onnes
[13:17] <lvleph> Any one have any idea why my keyboard settings in gnome tweaks are not persistent over a suspend or logout? When I look at the tweak settings it seems that the settings are enabled correctly, but I have to reset them to get them to actually work. And this happens on every suspend or logout. I am on 20.04.
[13:18] <cousteau> some Fn keys are directly connected to regular keyboard keys "in hardware"; for example volume keys, or Fn-left/right for Home/End on some layouts.  But others seem to trigger some weird events
[13:18] <sammyg1321> Ahhh so id say no way to make them work?
[13:18] <sammyg1321> Or can we reprogram them?
[13:18] <cousteau> ok let me check because I recall having to do something weird with my laptop for some of these magic keys (brightness ones, I think)
[13:18] <lvleph> I am having caps lock set as an additional escape and right alt as third layer.
[13:18] <cousteau> no, there WAS a way to make them work, but you need your pc to know about these keys
[13:19] <sammyg1321> Ahhhh gotcha
[13:19] <sammyg1321> Yea sure lemme know :)  If you also know how to control the lights and keyboard lights thatd be great but i doubt so
[13:19] <sammyg1321> i have to use ASUS's Vault app or whatever its acalled
[13:20] <lvleph> sammyg1321 I had to hack keyboard brightness at some point. Let me check my git history to see what I did.
[13:20] <sammyg1321> Thanks :D
[13:21] <sammyg1321> trying to use ubuntu as my main operating system but i think with my games it might be finecky
[13:21] <sammyg1321> but im trying to make it work :)
[13:23] <wyoung> sammyg1321: I had that issue but now I have a dedicated gaming NUC running windows and everything else running Linux or MacOs.
[13:23] <lvleph> I had to use some hackiness to control it and it may not be related to your problem but here is the code I used to control the brightness `/usr/bin/tee brightness" | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers`.
[13:23] <sammyg1321> Ahhh cool! I mean i have a mac mini but i have not used it in awhile
[13:23] <cousteau> sammyg1321, ok bad news; my workaround was for volume keys  https://askubuntu.com/questions/994333/volume-buttons-stay-pressed/1061500#1061500
[13:23] <sammyg1321> I may start using it again, i wanted to use my ROG more like a gaming machine but id lvoe to use Linux
[13:24] <lvleph> sammyg1321 that isn't the right code...
[13:24] <sammyg1321> cousteau doh D:
[13:24] <sammyg1321> lvleph hahaha no worries
[13:25] <cousteau> anyway, on Xubuntu at least you can change the brightness by scrolling on the battery icon (not sure if on normal Ubuntu you can as well), so that would make things easier
[13:25] <sammyg1321> but yeah i wanted to run ubuntu again its been a  long time and my skills are rusty so
[13:25] <lvleph> It is related...
[13:25] <wyoung> sammyg1321: In saying that, 80% of the games I want to play run in Linux.  100% run on my NUC and 95% on my Macs.
[13:25] <sammyg1321> is there like a nub i can put on the top status bar cousteau
[13:25] <cousteau> I find it more convenient than figuring out where the brightness keys are, since every damn manufacturer puts them on a different place
[13:25] <sammyg1321> wyoung yee, i wanna run Call of duty MW i doubt it will run on Buntu though
[13:25] <lvleph> I probably used Xmodmap and brightness...
[13:25] <cousteau> sammyg1321, doesn't clicking on the battery icon display a drop down menu with, among other things, a brightness control?
[13:26] <sammyg1321> cousteaui dont see brightness there though
[13:26] <cousteau> oh
[13:26] <wyoung> sammyg1321: No idea, I don't own that game.
[13:26] <sammyg1321> wyoung no worries haha
[13:26] <wyoung> I still play Wolfenstein Enemy Terrority :)
[13:26] <sammyg1321> cousteau initially i found it in settings
[13:26] <lvleph> sammyg1321 yep, I used .Xmodmap... ```
[13:27] <lvleph> ```keycode 229 = XF86KbdBrightnessDown NoSymbol XF86KbdBrightnessDownkeycode 230 = XF86KbdBrightnessUp NoSymbol XF86KbdBrightnessUp```
[13:27] <sammyg1321> lvleph interesting , il do some research :D  Thanks
[13:27] <lvleph> The keycode was specific to my keyboard.
[13:27] <sammyg1321> i also downloaded some app from the ubuntu store called brightness ccontrol but that would not stick down the brightness settings
[13:27] <sammyg1321> Ahhhhhh
[13:28] <cousteau> sammyg1321, if you run   xev   and press the brightness keys I think you can figure out what keycode they trigger
[13:28] <cousteau> (in my case that didn't work, but I think it's because the system captures them before xev does)
[13:29] <sammyg1321> Yeah i dont think it works, when i fo FN F7 or FN F8 it shows nothing
[13:29] <lvleph> Now if I could get my caps lock->escape persistent...
[13:29] <sammyg1321> Lol
[13:29] <sammyg1321> but presssing F7 F8 works fine
[13:29] <sammyg1321> but not with FN
[13:29] <cousteau> lvleph, well, you can customize your keyboard layout -- create a custom one
[13:30] <cousteau> but that sounds boring.  It's weird that the login screen messes with that (it's probably the login screen; not 100% sure though)
[13:32] <cousteau> sammyg1321, hm, what happens if you run acpi_listen and press the volume and brightness keys?
[13:32] <sammyg1321> so Vol does stuff
[13:32] <sammyg1321> brightness nothing at alll
[13:33] <lvleph> cousteau in my .Xmodmap I had it set to void, but for some reason my .Xmodmap was never read.
[13:33] <lvleph> So then I started using gnome-tweaks.
[13:34] <cousteau> sammyg1321, oh :(
[13:34] <sammyg1321> Its so odd cousteau :/
[13:37] <lvleph> I guess I will dump my current keyboard setup to a file and see if I can just get that to load on startup... sammyg1321 you can do that with `xmodmap -pke > ~/.Xmodmap`
[13:38] <sammyg1321> Oh okay cool ! :D
[13:38] <sammyg1321> but yeah im trying to use Ubuntu for the day to day and B1nblows for gaming only so, taking it for a whirl :D
[13:38] <sammyg1321> Any clues for the RGB lights guys?
[13:40] <lvleph> oh and to get .Xmodmap to be loaded ad `xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap` in `~/.xinitrc`
[13:40] <lvleph> and you can use `xev` to figure out what key you are pushing.
[13:41] <sammyg1321> But i would need
[13:41] <sammyg1321> A file to load no?
[13:41] <lvleph> Then all you need to do is figure out what the command is that you want to run when pushing that key.
[13:41] <sammyg1321> Ahhhh
[14:26] <TuxCrazy> anyone here using xanmod or liquorix kernels?
[14:46] <TJ-> Strangely, we use Ubuntu kernels :)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hehe
[14:48] <TuxCrazy> are custom kernels bad for laptop battery life?
[14:49] <TuxCrazy> custom kernels like xanmod and liquorix.
[14:54] <sunrunner20> btw
[14:55] <TuxCrazy> which is better for better battery life on laptops, kernels provided by default by the distro or custom kernels like liquorix and xanmod?
[14:55] <sunrunner20> the answer to why didn't usb work in my vm last night was I had to tell vmware to make the virtual USB match my physical usb
[14:56] <BluesKaj> TuxCrazy, think that's up toyou to do the comparison, most uses here don't use custom kernels
[14:56] <BluesKaj> users even
[14:56] <TuxCrazy> BluesKaj, ok. Btw, what is your opinion?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> I don't have an opinion since I don't use custom kernels
[14:58] <TuxCrazy> ok
[14:58] <TuxCrazy> BluesKaj, are newer kernels better for battery life?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> TuxCrazy, I haven't noticed much difference.. battery life depends a lot on your power settings
[15:01] <TuxCrazy> BluesKaj, how to enhance battery life on laptops?
[15:01] <TuxCrazy> while using linux distros.
[15:01] <TuxCrazy> is Windows better than Linux for laptop battery life?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> dunno, haven't used windows in 5yrs
[15:03] <BluesKaj> maybe more, can't recall
[15:03] <sunrunner20> yes most likely
[15:04] <sunrunner20> if the question is "is windows better than linux for x desktop experance" the answer is yes
[15:04] <sunrunner20> I love linux
[15:04] <sunrunner20> but it's DE is a giant joke
[15:05] <jpds> Not ncessarily, it's way to generic a question
[15:05] <BluesKaj> uhmm
[15:05] <sunrunner20> the weight of providiing a counterpoint to my statement falls on you sir
[15:06] <jpds> Linux probably wins on having less background services and the like running
[15:06] <sunrunner20> that's not part of desktop exerperance
[15:06] <jpds> We're not talking about experience, we're talking battery life
[15:06] <sunrunner20> whihc is part of experiance
[15:06] <jpds> Anyhow, it's offtopic for ubuntu support
[15:07] <sunrunner20> as defined by "what does the user experiance when using the machine"
[15:07] <TuxCrazy> I too don't use Windows.
[15:07] <sunrunner20> I've tried every flavor of ubuntu ljisted on the official flavors list
[15:08] <sunrunner20> or at least the major ones
[15:08] <sunrunner20> 50% of them didn't pass UX/UI during install
[15:08] <sunrunner20> another 25% failed during initial login
[15:08] <jpds> sunrunner20: Weird, did you file bugs about that?
[15:09] <sunrunner20> its not bugs
[15:09] <sunrunner20> its poor UX/UI design
[15:09] <jpds> The install/initial login failing is a bug
[15:09] <sunrunner20> no
[15:09] <sunrunner20> I don't know if the install failed
[15:10] <sunrunner20> I know the UX of the install was so bad, I had zero hope for the rest of the distro
[15:10] <sunrunner20> so I just cut my losses
[15:11] <TuxCrazy> when will Ubuntu Cinnamon and Ubuntu Deepin become official flavors of Ubuntu?
[15:11] <sunrunner20> I'm extremely excited for .Net 5/Core versions, and WSL2
[15:12] <ace_me> is out there anywhere a place where I can check whn I should retry to get a certificate from letsencrypt ? Now I ge Max retries exceeded
[15:12] <sunrunner20> wait 24hrs
[15:12] <sunrunner20> although
[15:12] <sunrunner20> if you hit that
[15:13] <sunrunner20> I'd really suggest reading more about how to use certbot
[15:13] <sunrunner20> I've never hit that limit
[15:13] <sunrunner20> if you want to continue testing
[15:13] <sunrunner20> create a new domain
[15:13] <sunrunner20> and try testing for that one
[15:13] <TuxCrazy> which DE on Ubuntu is most suitable for a laptop with 4 Gigs of RAM?
[15:14] <sunrunner20> I go with XFCE
[15:14] <sunrunner20> could go fluxbox I guess if you wanted to use the absolute minimum ram lol
[15:15] <TuxCrazy> it should be suitable for newbies too.
[15:15] <sunrunner20> XFCE
[15:15] <sunrunner20> or chomium OS
[15:15] <TuxCrazy> because this laptop is used be some newbies too.
[15:16] <sunrunner20> tbh win10 will run fine on 4gig ram
[15:16] <sunrunner20> the iGPU will be a bigger factor
[15:16] <TuxCrazy> ok
[15:17] <xtao> i happily run xubuntu (xfce) on my 4GB laptop. but not just because of the memory, because i hate gnome 3 and KDE
[15:17] <TuxCrazy> how about Cinnamon?
[15:17] <sunrunner20> dunno
[15:17] <TuxCrazy> will it be heavy?
[15:17] <sunrunner20> that failed my UI/UX tests so I know nothing about it
[15:17] <sunrunner20> and keep in mind, they're MY tests
[15:17] <TuxCrazy> sunrunner20, which tests? could you please elaborate?
[15:17] <sunrunner20> anecdotal
[15:19] <sunrunner20> TuxCrazy: I just didn't like the design, thinks such as the window being close, minimize, maximize (in that order, instead of minimize maximize close like windows) can be enough for me to veto
[15:19] <sunrunner20> *title bar
[15:20] <TuxCrazy> sunrunner20, which distros and which DEs do you use?
[15:20] <mgedmin> this sounds like a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic, and not a technical support request
[15:20] <sunrunner20> I tried installing most if not all flavors presented by unbuntu.org as available
[15:21] <TuxCrazy> ok
[15:21] <mgedmin> (besides title bar button layout is customizable by power users)
[15:21] <sunrunner20> i'll just leave then
[15:21] <sunrunner20> I want an OS that works. Not one I have to spend a bazillion hours getting perfect
[15:21] <TuxCrazy> sunrunner20, I too..
[15:22] <sunrunner20> I'll take the perf hit at windows because its less than what i'd spend on linux getting everything the way it needs to be
[15:22] <sunrunner20> My favorite Ubuntu flavor is Ubuntu Server
[15:22] <jpds> Well, an OS that works is precisely what Ubuntu provides
[15:22] <sunrunner20> not ime
[15:22] <sunrunner20> like I said half these didn't make it through install
[15:23] <sunrunner20> the ubuntu server install is fantastic
[15:23] <jpds> sunrunner20: If you have issues with the install, you've either hitting bugs or doing something that results in user error
[15:23] <sunrunner20> no
[15:23] <jpds> Not trying to be funny, but the ubuntu installer has been in development for more than a decade
[15:23] <ace_me> sunrunner20:  the issue happen inside a docker machine so is somehow new to me
[15:23] <ace_me> I'll wait until tomorrow then
[15:24] <sunrunner20> do you default to a chezk keyboard layout when GEOIP says you're installing in the chicacgo time zone?
[15:24] <jpds> sunrunner20: No, I just manually set my timezone and keyboard correctly
[15:24] <sunrunner20> yea having to set those in this day and age is a fail
[15:25] <jpds> It's not the installers fault if your GeoIP entry is incorrect
[15:25] <sunrunner20> my geoIP entry is correct
[15:25] <sunrunner20> the installer just has insane defaults
[15:25] <jpds> Then file bugs about those
[15:25] <sunrunner20> it's not worth my time
[15:25] <sunrunner20> the ENTIRE UI/UX is like that
[15:25] <jpds> Then go somewhere else then
[15:26] <jpds> Or try something like Fedora
[15:26] <sunrunner20> I did
[15:26] <sunrunner20> XFCE is the most windows like I could find that actually put effort into the install
[15:36] <sunrunner20> there's a raspberry pi project that's very useful, but adoption is abysmal because they don't provide prebuilt images
[15:36] <sunrunner20> quit
[15:37] <sunrunner20> err
[16:08] <rapidwave> Is there a setting to make Ubuntu automatically "lock" the desktop after 5 minutes?
[16:12] <xet7> rapidware: Do you mean screensaver settings?
[16:12] <xet7> rapidwave: ^
[16:13] <rapidwave> I mean the same thing that happens when I click "lock" under the panel power button
[16:13] <rapidwave> Where you click or hit ESC to unlock the desktop
[16:14] <xet7> rapidwave: I think it's just screensaver without password?
[16:15] <rapidwave> When I go to unlock after it's been locked, it asks for a password
[16:16] <rapidwave> Also...sometimes when I leave for a while, I come back to a black screen that I can't get to do anything. I have to cold-boot, but everrything is fine once I boot back up
[16:16] <rapidwave> Wait. I bet THAT is a screensaver
[16:18] <hofer> mabey ...screen lock ?
[16:30] <xMeia> just upgraded an old laptop cpu duo 1,8 to 2,5 with new Xubuntu on woho, like a new one
[16:32] <cousteau> rapidwave, yeah when you hit "lock" you trigger the screensaver (even if it's set to "just blank screen")
[16:33] <cousteau> so if you set the screensaver to start after 5 min inactivity, and to lock the desktop (I think that part is optional), and set it to "black screen" if you don't want any fancy screensaver, you're set
[16:34] <rapidwave>  So then that problem is the screensaver not disengaging when I type  keys
[16:34] <cousteau> that's weird though
[16:34] <rapidwave> Yeah..I always seem to be king of the weird issues
[16:34] <cousteau> is this Ubuntu or Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu/some other desktop environment?
[16:35] <cousteau> nah not really
[16:35] <cousteau> also what graphics card?  (although "Nvidia" will probably not tell much, since everybody has an Nvidia nowadays)
[16:36] <cousteau> also what happens if you press caps lock or num lock?  does the LED on the keyboard turn on and off?  if not, your system might have frozen
[16:36] <cousteau> (this is, if your keyboard has a num lock LED)
[16:36] <rapidwave> Hmm. I can't even find screensaver settings
[16:37] <rapidwave> Ahh. Yeah...bet that has been it. It's been freezing
[16:38] <cousteau> I'm using Xubuntu so I can't help here (plus I wouldn't know where to search either; I'd jsut type "screensaver" on the app launcher)
[16:38] <hofer> screensaver is not installed by default
[16:38] <cousteau> hofer, huh?  it's not?  not even a blank screen one?
[16:38] <cousteau> or the one with the ugly snowflakes?
[16:38] <hofer> cousteau yes but its under screen lock
[16:39]  * hofer whistles
[16:40]  * cousteau checking what screensavers are installed on his laptop
[16:40] <cousteau> Ooooh there's the fiberlamp one!
[16:41] <cousteau> and one named "Hexadrop" that shows octogonal raindrops... weird.
[16:41] <hofer> hint its in privacy settings
[16:41] <cousteau> maybe because I have the screen settings changed so it's rendering a side count of 6 as 8
[16:42] <cousteau> Nvidia Graphics Card.  Now with 33% more sides per hexagon!
[16:44] <cousteau> ok so I was trying screensavers and one of them was called "Zoom", and I thought it was going to show an image being zoomed in and out, but instead it opened Zoom Meetings.  What the hell
[16:46] <cousteau> rapidwave, anyway.  Did you find it under Privacy Settings as hofer suggested?
[16:55] <lkh> GNU *screen* crashes any time I want to reattach to a session. Anyone experiencing the same issue?
[16:58] <rapidwave> I cannot find privacy settings
[17:01] <cousteau> doesn't ubuntu have a thing where you can search for applications by name?
[17:01] <cousteau> like, you press the ubuntu logo, and type anything
[17:13] <gnUser> Hi guys, does anyone have a way of using Samsung Dex on ubuntu? I don't mean running Linux on Dex but the Dex app on Ubuntu
[17:22] <beekeeper_> qnUser, you could try installing it on wine?
[17:40] <leadgeek> When I use sudo, it's taking me 20-30 seconds. I'm using krb5 for auth against an A/D. ideas?
[17:40] <leadgeek> My RHEL machines don't have this trouble, and they're also authenticating against A/D the same way.
[17:41] <leadgeek> Ubuntu 18.04
[18:12] <cthulchu> ok, folks, so I'm gonna get a new laptop as a main working machine. But this time I'm doing something new, I'm installing Ubuntu as my main desktop OS. Still probably install Windows, although not sure why. Maybe to play games. I'm thinking to get this config: https://i.imgur.com/GtSet5V.png
[18:12] <cthulchu> so it would have two 1TB ssds. I plan to have Windows on one and Ubuntu on the other
[18:13] <cthulchu> but, I expect Ubuntu to be able to see Windows' file system. It's NTFS, so shouldn't be a problem, right?
[18:13] <cthulchu> also I'm thinking to use KDE for UI
[18:15] <cthulchu> Should I consider a different ui for a high-performance laptop?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> cthulchu: come over to #ubuntu-discuss please to discuss ubuntu hardware reccomends
[18:17] <dax> yes, Ubuntu can read NTFS. UI doesn't matter, it's up to your preference.
[18:17] <cousteau> cthulchu, yeah Ubuntu sees NTFS with no problem
[18:17] <cousteau> sees and writes
[18:18] <cousteau> for performance, I'd consider something without many visual effects which might get in the way of performance demanding applications,  but if it's a good enough machine it shouldn't matter
[18:19] <Maik> i'm in doubt with the nVidia stuff, if you wouldn't play games i'd drop nVidia in flavor of Intel or maybe go AMD graphics
[18:20] <cousteau> well if you're going to do CUDA stuff then Nvidia is the only way to go
[18:20] <cthulchu> I plan yo play though, Maik
[18:20] <cousteau> unfortunately OpenCL didn't seem to catch up
[18:23] <cousteau> re: HDD distribution, I'd consider putting one partition on each drive to get a balanced HDD usage.  For e.g., HDD 0: grub, /boot, /, C:.  HDD 1: /home, /opt, swap, D:.
[18:23] <cousteau> or maybe one swap on each HDD?  Can Linux use two swaps in parallel efficiently?
[18:24] <dax> yes, but i wouldn't bother with any of that
[18:25] <dax> modern SSDs wear level perfectly fine, and Linux will do the needful with optimizations
[18:25] <cousteau> (this config also applies, even more, to systems with one SSD and one HDD)
[18:25] <cousteau> uh never mind; I thought it was 2 HDDs, not 2 SSDs
[18:25] <cousteau> can't you just RAID the two SSDs and double the speed by using them in parallel?
[18:26] <dax> SSD throughput is not going to be a bottleneck for any normal use case
[18:27] <cthulchu> you can raid two ssds
[18:27] <cthulchu> ssd throughput is a bottleneck if you compare it to RAM
[18:27] <cousteau> unless it's a very, very slow RAM
[18:27] <cthulchu> indeed
[18:28] <cthulchu> I don't want to raid them though cuz I won't really notice much the speed bump.
[18:28] <cousteau> this would be RAID 0, right?  I lost track of which RAIDs were recommended for each use case
[18:28] <cousteau> I'm not sure there's any advantage in NOT raiding them though...
[18:28] <cthulchu> ye, Raid0 is stripe
[18:29] <cthulchu> obvious advantage in not raiding them is data preservation
[18:29] <cthulchu> and simpler setup/recovery
[18:29] <cousteau> ?
[18:29] <cousteau> how does not raid preserve data any better than raid 0?
[18:29] <cthulchu> raid0 needs all drives to be up. failure of one drive will lead to loss of ALL information
[18:30] <cthulchu> on all drives
[18:30] <cousteau> well, and failure of the drive where the OS is installed leads to loss of the ability to boot
[18:30] <cthulchu> so what?
[18:30] <cthulchu> you still have the data
[18:30] <cthulchu> restoring the OS won't be a problem
[18:30] <cousteau> ...then again you can still boot with a live cd and recover all your ...files
[18:31] <cthulchu> or connect it to a different machine, ye
[18:31] <cousteau> or, you keep the OS but lose all your data
[18:31] <cousteau> but there are fewer chances of that than if you rely on TWO drives not failing, that's for sure
[18:32] <cthulchu> I think having Windows and Ubuntu split to two distinct devices makes things easier for the OSes and for me in terms of config
[18:32] <cousteau> dunno.  I know I'm biased because I do electronic engineering and I'm always like "parallelize ALL the things!", but parallelizing this potential bottleneck seems reasonable to me
[18:33] <cousteau> cthulchu, still, I'd put C: and the bootloader on drive 0
[18:33] <cousteau> oh, and install Windows before Linux.  Does Windows still overwrite the bootloader?
[18:34] <cousteau> (hm, maybe with 2 drives I could tell the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive, install Windows there, and then tell the BIOS to boot from the 1st drive, so that the Windows installer doesn't mess with my GRUB, and use it to detect Windows on GRUB)
[18:40] <cthulchu> cousteau, that's great advice, I'll follow it
[18:45] <cousteau> cthulchu, yeah.  I'm not sure Windows will be OK with not being on drive #1
[18:46] <cousteau> nor the bootloader
[18:46] <cousteau> but as far as I know Linux partitions are fine anywhere
[18:46] <cthulchu> I think windows will obey
[20:39] <ahylight> I know: apt-get install -y package
[20:39] <ahylight> but: apt install -y package
[20:39] <ahylight> works too?
[20:40] <hggdh> apt is an end-user (not scripted) version for apt-get. Ye, it will work
[20:40] <hggdh> just do not use it in scripts -- the 'apt' user interface is still in flux, and may change anytime
[20:42] <dougquaid> What package do I need to install for the mt7612u wifi driver?
[20:42] <ahylight> thanks!
[20:49] <ducasse> dougquaid: doesn't look like a driver for that is in the repos, but you must use a driver from github
[20:54] <dougquaid> ducasse: Huh that's weird. It's in the kernel. I'll check github though, thanks
[20:55] <ducasse> if it's in the kernel it should just work, i just didn't find anything apart from the github driver
[20:55] <ducasse> i might be entirely wrong, though
[20:55] <dougquaid> Ah ok I thought I had to install a package for it
[20:55] <ducasse> is linux-firmware installed?
[20:56] <dougquaid> yes
[20:57] <ducasse> that's the only thing you need for drivers in the kernel
[20:58] <dougquaid> Ok thank you
[21:04] <ypiel> Hello, I want to use 'gio copy' to copy folders & files on my samsung. But it can't copy recursively... Is there a way to do that ? thanks.
[21:09] <leftyfb> ypiel: why not just use rsync?
[21:12] <scakko> ^ this
[21:31] <azerozero0> How nautilus in Ubuntu mounts BitLocker drives? I don't have dislocker installed
[21:45] <mloza> Hello. Yesterday I upgraded the kernel of a Ubuntu 20.04 server from 5.4.0 to 5.9.6. The server has 2x 100G interfaces that is bonded using link aggregation. The physical interfaces and bond comes up but I'm unable to ping other nodes. If I do `ip link del $bond; systemctl restart systemd-networkd` or `ip link set $bond promisc on` it starts pinging
[21:45] <mloza> this is networkd config https://pastebin.com/raw/2zutDDR2
[21:45] <ramsub07> hello.
[21:46] <ramsub07> there are 5 subdirectories where I am(A...E) and each have a sub directory "F". I'd like to copy the contents of A/F/*... E/F/* through rsync. how do I go about?
[21:46] <nsaunders> besides calibre, what software will create an epub from html?
[21:50] <ramsub07> Hello.Sorry about getting disconnected
[22:02] <MannyLNJ> Hi, My Ubuntu insall is borked. I can't get settings to open but I am able to run my installed programs. I don't get any errors just it never opens
[22:09] <Maik> MannyLNJ: which ubuntu?
[22:09] <MannyLNJ> Maik, 20.04
[22:11] <MannyLNJ> Maik I tried upgrading to 20.10 but the upgrade does not successfully complete
[22:14] <Maik> then that's your problem i guess and would recommend a clean install. Also stick with a LTS release for daily usage if you use ubuntu to work with.
[22:15] <MannyLNJ> Maik Thank you. I will have to wait for the weekend
[22:15] <mloza> I'm trying to downgrade systemd to lower version but it couldn't find the package `apt install systemd=245.4-4ubuntu3.2`. Machine is 20.0.4
[22:15] <mloza> 20.04*
[22:39] <Perdellian> https://pastebin.com/K5aMWbYc
[22:39] <Perdellian> any thoughts on why Calibre would be crashing on startup?
[22:41] <Perdellian> this was after I did a 'mv .config/calibre{,.bak}; mv .config/calibrerc{,.bak}'
[22:44] <Perdellian> (i.e. it's not a configuration issue in my user settings)
[22:45] <Perdellian> I could just upgrade to 20.10 to get calibre 5.x, I suppose, but I was thinking to hold off another month or so for that
[23:12] <ducasse> mloza: downgrading is largely unsupported, and that version is most likely no longer available in the archives
[23:49] <tomreyn> Perdellian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1898904