[00:44] <jasontvb> Ok, I think I have scrolling on the mouse now, but it's weird. To scroll I have to hold the mouse right click button and then move the entire mouse. Is this supposed to happen?
[00:46] <kryten> Pretty sure your mouse is broken.. >_>
[00:46] <jasontvb> some people suggested selecting two-finger in the touchpad settings, however, that option is greyed out so I can't select it
[00:47] <jasontvb> On other devices and in Windows 10 the touch-surface mouse works normal
[00:48] <jasontvb> However, in Lubuntu 20.04 LTS I can't seem to get it to work the same way for scrolling
[00:55] <jasontvb> Any suggestions would be much appreciated. I've been trying to get this to work for weeks.
 How can I edit start menu? I want to remove some items and I see no way to do this
 `menulibre` used to work but is nowadays broken
 And changes have no effect
[14:18] <TechPup> Hi
[14:43] <july> HI
[14:47] <computer5690> Hello, is anybody here
[14:47] <kc2bez> !ask
[17:23] <vierlala> Hi, I installed lubuntu 20.04 (previous 16.04), but I can't seem to get wifi working. There's no icon were I can select networks and when I go to the session configurator, there's an errorkinda icon next to network (see image). When I run nm-applet in the terminal, nothing happens.
[17:23] <vierlala> https://i.imgur.com/coVcd6K.jpg
[17:24] <vierlala> How do I get wifi working? I want that list with networks, when you click on the icon
 @vierlala [<vierlala> Hi, I installed lubuntu 20.04 (previous 16.04), but I can't seem to g …], It seems to me that you are not using default style/styling/skin/whatever it is called. It may or may not be related.
[17:28] <kryten> vierlala: And what's with the 'computers' icon at the bottom of your vertical panel, ahead of the sound volume one?
 (Photo, 485x38) https://i.imgur.com/4tCPH4S.jpg wifi icon in a clean unmodified install
[17:30] <vierlala> kryten the computers icon doesn't do anything, is just a networkmonitor
 (Photo, 203x455) https://i.imgur.com/oNd0xk9.jpg Any idea how can I modify start menu
[17:30] <kryten> Aha, and here I thought it'd give a menu..
 I want to remove "Internet" entry. In LXDE `menulibre` was capable of doing this, but not anymore.
[17:32] <kryten> vierlala: Fwiw, I don't think nm-applet is installed in current Lubuntu by default anymore, but nm-tray is.
 @vierlala [<vierlala> kryten the computers icon doesn't do anything, is just a networkmonit …], Actually it is nm-tray icon. Use the right click menu on the icon. More information is on our manual. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.5/nm-tray.html?highlight=network
 @kryten [<kryten> vierlala: Fwiw, I don't think nm-applet is installed in current Lubuntu …], The entire category?
 Sorry replied to the wrong message.
 @matkoniecz You want to remove the entire category?
[18:27]  * rgh installs lubuntu 20.10 on netbook
[18:27] <rgh> Xubuntu wouldn't get me on the desktop somehow. Let's see how lubuntu goes :-)
[18:33] <rgh> It works \o/
[19:00] <vierlala> hi everyone, my wifi problem is still not solved so here I am again. So far I figured nm-tray is the go-to icon for wifi, but it seems I don't the right window when right-clicking on it. I get this https://imgur.com/a/6RIvc5g instead of this https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/_images/nm-tray-context.png and when I click on 'netwerkmonitor instellen',
[19:00] <vierlala> I only get this window: https://i.imgur.com/bpWQBp2.jpg Left click doesnt do anything. How do I fix this, so I can connect with wifi?
 @vierlala [<vierlala> hi everyone, my wifi problem is still not solved so here I am again. …], Does one of those indicate edit connection? If so, try that.
[19:09] <rgh> ẅerkbalk !
[19:09] <rgh> fellow dutch person
[19:10] <vierlala> there' s no edit connection option
[19:11] <rgh> vierlala: which lubuntu version is that =
[19:11] <rgh> crap .. keyboard layout is wrong
[19:11] <vierlala> 20.04
[19:14] <rgh> vierlala: are you sure you have the wifi drivers installed
[19:14] <rgh> I had to go to "Additional Drivers" and install drivers for my wifi card
[19:16]  * rgh uploaded an image: image.png (50KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eapJfteIapNGGaiMJcCwbudJ/image.png >
[19:16] <rgh> vierlala: screenshot ^^
[19:18] <vierlala> says 'no additional drivers available'
[19:20] <vierlala> PCI c00.0: 0282 WLAN controller(...)  Model: "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection"  Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"  Device: pci 0x4222 "PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection" (...)  Driver Info #0:    Driver Status: iwl3945 is active    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe iwl3945"  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes,
[19:20] <vierlala> need=no, active=unknown  Attached to: #24 (PCI bridge)
[19:21] <rgh> well, I guess that's ok ?
[19:22] <rgh> left click on  widget doesn't show a list of wifi  ?
[19:24] <vierlala> nope doesn't work
[19:24] <rgh> I dunno
[19:24] <vierlala> also is the only icon that doesn't turn grey when I move the mouse over it.. seems disabled somehow
[19:25] <rgh> that sounds verdacht veel like a not loaded driver
[19:25] <rgh> verdacht veel, because I can't spell suspicisouslysdly
[19:25] <vierlala> haha
[19:26] <vierlala> well how do I load the driver then?
[19:26] <rgh> oh, anything in dmesg ?
[19:26] <rgh> wait
[19:26] <rgh> lsmod | sort | less
[19:27] <rgh> will let you croll through the loaded kernel modules
[19:27] <rgh> aka drives
[19:27] <rgh>  * aka drivers
[19:28] <rgh> OT - does irc pick up edited messages? I'm using matrix.org to access irc
[19:28] <rgh> anyway, I really got to walk the dog now
[19:28] <vierlala> ok thnx so far
[19:43] <krytarik> vierlala: It seems you got a different network panel applet loaded than the default one - try running "nm-tray" from the command line and see what it gives.
 @kc2bez [@matkoniecz You want to remove the entire category?], Yes (though removal of some items from category to empty it would be also an useful workaround)
[19:44] <vierlala> krytarik doesn't change anything
[19:48] <vierlala> https://i.imgur.com/IfrNRuk.jpg I also still don' t get why there's an exclamation mark at network in the autostart section
[19:50] <krytarik> Well, there isn't one at nm-tray there, anyway.
[19:51] <vierlala> yep that's true, but nm-tray isn't working like it should
[19:52] <krytarik> And you don't get any error messages on running it?
[19:52] <vierlala> nope
[19:53] <vierlala> I dunnow if it's running, because I can't do anything with the icon. But wired internet does work
[19:58] <rgh> vierlala: did you identify the driver in lsmod ?
[20:00] <vierlala> cfg80211              704512  3 iwl3945,iwlegacy,mac80211
[20:00] <rgh> ok
[20:01] <krytarik> vierlala: Was the icon also missing in the Live session of the installer before you installed?  Or if unsure, try that.
[20:02] <rgh> vierlala , maybe you need firmware ?
[20:02] <rgh> https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/IWL3945.html
[20:02] <rgh> "In order to use this driver, you will need a microcode (uCode) image for it"
[20:04] <rgh> apt show linux-firmware
[20:07] <vierlala> it's getting too difficult for me
[20:08] <vierlala> maybe that firmware thingy is the key... but I have no idea how to fix it
[21:01] <rgh> sudo apt install linux-firmware
[21:01] <rgh> reboot
[21:01] <rgh> worth a try anyway
[21:05] <vierlala> I manually added my home wifi in advanced network configuration and it works. So it's not a wifi/driver/firmware problem. It still is a nm-tray icon problem.
[21:07] <rgh> oh well
[21:07] <rgh> it's something :-)
[21:08] <rgh> as I am supposed to get up at 03:30 , I'm going to bed ;-)