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ubptgbotJefferson was added by: Jefferson00:47
ubptgbot<Jefferson> Hi00:47
ubptgbot<Jefferson> i use a Redmi 7A00:47
ubptgbot<Jefferson> i will like install Ubuntu Touch00:48
ubptgbot<Jefferson> who can help me00:48
ubptgbot<Jefferson> please00:51
ubptgbot<floop2> @Jefferson [i use a Redmi 7A], Have u checked Supported Devices: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/01:10
ubptgbot<Jefferson> i jus see Redmi 7 (Onclite)01:13
ubptgbot<Jefferson> but i did not see  Redmi 7A itself01:14
ubptgbot<Jefferson> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV3SAWdxhwU&t=1103s01:14
ubptgbot<Jefferson> a guy uploaded this video installing on Redmi 7A01:14
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Hmm then you'll have better chance finding an answer in https://t.me/halium01:15
ubptgbot<Jefferson> Thankyou01:19
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> People who know if it is possible to clone applications on UT? It's just that I have several accounts in telegram and teleports does not support adding multiple accounts, I thought maybe you can just create a clone of it so that I will install a second account there02:58
ubptgbot<mateosalta> sure03:16
ubptgbot<mateosalta> just rename in the manifest and desktop and rebuild03:17
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @mateosalta [just rename in the manifest and desktop and rebuild], Can you tell me how this can be done?03:20
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://clickable-ut.dev/en/latest/03:20
ubptgbot<mateosalta> just change the name in the manifest03:21
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @mateosalta [just change the name in the manifest], Okay, got it. thanks)03:22
ubptgbot<mateosalta> there might be another application name in some apps, in the main.qml03:23
ubptgbot<mateosalta> that has to match, or sometimes in the cpp03:23
ubptgbot<mateosalta> will be like "appname.developername"03:24
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> Ok thanks for the note03:27
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> And by the way, I had a couple more questions.  β€¦ 1) And what to do when you turn off the flash in the camera, but it still fires in the dark and no matter how you click the switch, the flash does not turn off. … 2) How can you translate applications to UT? I just wanted to fix the translation in the Weather application, Settings03:28
ubptgbotand complete the translation in Teleports ... Do you also need to take the source code and change everything there?03:28
ubptgbot<mateosalta> usually a translation file can be edited03:29
ubptgbot<mateosalta> and there are nice graphical tools to make those for you03:30
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @mateosalta [and there are nice graphical tools to make those for you], Where can you find these translation files there?03:30
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/tree/master/po03:31
ubptgbot<mateosalta> the teleports.ubports.pot is the template03:32
ubptgbot<mateosalta> things like this https://poedit.net/03:32
ubptgbot<mateosalta> oh, there is this too03:34
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/03:34
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/03:35
ubptgbot<mateosalta> which teleports has the translations there too it looks like03:35
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @mateosalta [https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/], I think this option is best suited ... Now I'll need to get the files of the same settings03:37
ubptgbot<mateosalta> yeah, you can submit changes there - and if you need them right away you can get the .po file for your lanugage and rebuild the click03:39
ubptgbotJin qianqian was added by: Jin qianqian03:46
ubptgbotCallisto was added by: Callisto03:46
ubptgbot<t0t12> how is signal on ubports in everyday use?04:08
ubptgbot<t0t12> good, just checked axolotl, there are no phone calls and push notification yet04:22
ubptgbotThe3DmaN was added by: The3DmaN05:33
ubptgbotpa pa was added by: pa pa05:52
ubptgbotessepi78 was added by: essepi7805:59
ubptgbot<Danfro> @Mister_Tails121 [And by the way, I had a couple more questions.  β€¦ 1) And what to do when you turn …], Regarding weather app: Open app, goto about page, press help translate. Or may I suggest the apps readme on gitlab? I did spend some time making this easy for users... πŸ€“ But obviously I missed something. Is the about page too much hidde06:15
ubptgbotn in settings? πŸ€”06:15
ubptgbotJana Maria was added by: Jana Maria07:50
ubptgbotUAPirat was added by: UAPirat08:28
ubptgbot<Flohack> @mateosalta [https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/tree/master/po], please never suggest to translate po files directly, this will conflict any changes from Weblate. Only link people to translate.ubports.com08:35
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Mister_Tails121 [And by the way, I had a couple more questions.  β€¦ 1) And what to do when you turn …], Please report the flash problem as a bug against Camera app08:57
ubptgbot<Boris Mihailov> Is there a channel for the clickable packaging system. As you can see, the naming isn't helpful when using search engines09:24
ubptgbot<libremax> If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so.10:19
ubptgbot<libremax> [Edit] If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so. If you have an issue with clickable, you can create a report here : https://gitlab.com/clickable/clickable/-/issues … If your question is a about publishing on openstore there is10:23
ubptgbot<libremax> [Edit] If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so. If you have an issue with clickable, you can create a report here : https://gitlab.com/clickable/clickable/-/issues … If your question is a about publishing on openstore there is a group OpenStore10:25
ubptgbotFILIPPA Stanislaus was added by: FILIPPA Stanislaus11:53
ubptgbotfranceschini clemente was added by: franceschini clemente12:10
ubptgbotDefenderOfTurks was added by: DefenderOfTurks14:41
ubptgbot<boriseto> How can I add exec option to a libertine app? Just want to check some things16:02
ubptgbot<Alex Overton> Hi Everyone, has anyone ported the Honor 6x to Ubuntu Touch...drawn blanks so far. Thanks in advance. Alex16:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly16:40
ubptgbot<prasaddash12> @Fuseteam [if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly], Can you please suggest some resources for this ?16:42
ubptgbot<NotKit> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html16:43
ubptgbot<NotKit> but what is the device in question and it's stock OS version?16:43
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @boriseto [How can I add exec option to a libertine app? Just want to check some things], you can edit app desktop files at `.cache/libertine*/xenial/rootfs/usr/share/applications` … path may be inaacurate πŸ˜…16:47
ubptgbot<prasaddash12> @NotKit [but what is the device in question and it's stock OS version?], Redmi note 7pro16:49
ubptgbot<NotKit> violet?16:49
ubptgbot<Alex Overton> @Fuseteam [if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly], thanks will check this out16:50
ubptgbot<prasaddash12> @NotKit [violet?], Yes16:53
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> You know, people, I’m thinking like that now .... But UT has a Terminal application, but here's the point from it if UT is truncated and Linux cannot be named ... What can be done with it .... People tell me please, how are you use UT and, in principle, what advantages of UT would you put in front of an android?17:36
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> i mainly use the terminal application as an SSH client/making SSH tunnels (is there a proper app for this?), not really sure what else you expect to do with it :P17:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @prasaddash12 [Can you please suggest some resources for this ?], it is linked on that page aswell fwiw17:41
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [i mainly use the terminal application as an SSH client/making SSH tunnels (is th …], Hmm ... Isn't there an SSH client for Android?17:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [You know, people, I’m thinking like that now .... But UT has a Terminal applicat …], what do you mean 'truncated'?17:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i use it to ssh into things but also to modify some files on the device to test changes and what not17:43
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [what do you mean 'truncated'?], This is mainly a problem with google translate But to summarize all my words in short, "If UT is not Linux in the usual sense, what is the advantage of UT over Android, and how can you use the terminal"17:44
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [what do you mean 'truncated'?], [Edit] This is mainly a problem with google translate …  But to summarize all my words in short, "If UT is not Linux in the usual sense, what is the advantage of UT over Android, and how can you use the terminal"17:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ut is also must more energy efficient than android; while android maintains quite a few tcp connections, ut only maintains one, and only one17:45
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [i use it to ssh into things but also to modify some files on the device to test …], The terminal has no more purpose than SSH. πŸ˜…17:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> what would you like to do with it?17:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw i once used nmap with it too17:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and before i forget i often use it to test changes before the even hit devel17:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] and before i forget i often use it to test changes before they even hit devel17:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> changes like this keyboard :^317:48
ubptgbot<NotKit> using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful17:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/M27knYx0.png17:48
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [what would you like to do with it?], Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn how to set up servers .... If UT were a full-fledged Linux, then it would be possible to learn to work with Apahe, NextCloud, Samba and other network protocols on it .. .. If UT could do this, it would be17:49
ubptgbot an indispensable textbook and telephone17:49
ubptgbotMamkin_Xakep_b0t was added by: Mamkin_Xakep_b0t17:49
ubptgbot<NotKit> you don't want your UT device to be server17:49
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] you don't want your UT device to be a server17:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn …], you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash memory right?17:50
ubptgbot<NotKit> if you really do, of course you can remount filesystem rw and install things, but don't blame us if it breaks17:50
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @NotKit [you don't want your UT device to be a server], well it can run "a server" :P17:50
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> i prefer having the rootfs on a hard drive or something17:50
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Mister_Tails121 [Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn …], Use a desktop PC for learning. Its totally unconvenient to work on such a small display with your fingers in a terminal app. You will get frustrated17:51
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @Fuseteam [you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash …], regarding flash memory, not all server software kills it17:51
ubptgbot<NotKit> but also running any Linux chroot is pretty trivial on UT, you can even start LXC or Docker containers17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> eh? an harddrive on a phone?17:51
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @NotKit [using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful], To be honest, in general, the UT keyboard is very painful compared to Gboard on Android.17:51
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @Fuseteam [eh? an harddrive on a phone?], possible, abuse the otg port for powering hard drives :D17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> in what way?17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [possible, abuse the otg port for powering hard drives :D], 🀣🀣🀣🀣17:52
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Mister_Tails121 [This is mainly a problem with google translate …  But to summarize all my words i …], Privacy, no data mining by Google and other companies, no spyware etc. You take back control over your digital life, much better defining what you agree to and what not17:52
ubptgbot<Flohack> In pure technical terms, there is (yet) not that much benefit plus Android has a much better user experience yes. But it comes with a price and many people dont want their data to be sold 24/717:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and you know if something is using gps at a glance too17:53
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash …], Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7)  β€¦ Purely first, he will learn how to work with him and then save up money and buy a VPS (by that time I’ll graduate from school)17:53
ubptgbot<Flohack> Basically if you use Android you pay with your data for using it. Its not a free sofware you are using. On top of the costs of the phone itself plus the plan from your carrier17:53
ubptgbot<Flohack> So its basically quite expensive thing to use :P17:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7)  β€¦ Purely first, he will learn how t …], well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine really ;3 … there's more to linux than just server software, learn about chroot it will save you a lot of time17:55
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7)  β€¦ Purely first, he will learn how t …], [Edit] well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine either way ;3 … there's more to linux than just server software, learn about chroot it will save you a lot of time17:55
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Flohack [Privacy, no data mining by Google and other companies, no spyware etc. You take …], As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just ... feel sick of the design of Android 9-10 and I can no longer use it ... And I just adore the design of Unity8 ... As for privatization, it won't work like17:55
ubptgbot that ... Most likely they can also spy17:55
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Mister_Tails121 [As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just …], Well none of the big comanies will ever do an App for UT, so - no ^^17:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> When you use google search, a bit of spying will happen but compare it to the ton of data that Android can collect17:56
ubptgbot<was1name> Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup while the screen is locked? Thanks in advance17:56
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine either way ;3 … there's mor …], does chroot work UT? And about Libertine .... Well, at 1 he is dead ... and at 2 there is no terminal)17:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], No, sorry17:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just …], they can't actually, ut apps are confined ;317:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], You can turn off all notifications17:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [does chroot work UT? And about Libertine .... Well, at 1 he is dead ... and at 2 …], libertine uses chroot so yes, yes it works17:58
ubptgbot<NotKit> Libertine uses proot I think17:58
ubptgbot<NotKit> but chroot will work if mounts are handled properly17:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and you can get shell access into libertine17:58
ubptgbot<was1name> Ok thanks for the quick response :) Otherwise ubuntu touch is really nice to use πŸ‘πŸΌ17:58
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [and you can get shell access into libertine], This is good .... Only here would be to fix the crashes of all programs that are installed there17:59
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @NotKit [using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful], Thats why we need f(x)tec or the keyboard add on for the pinephone :sunglasses:18:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> cli software works fine iirc18:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> its mostly gui software that crash18:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PhoenixLandPirate [Thats why we need f(x)tec or the keyboard add on for the pinephone :sunglasses:], lol or flick πŸ˜‹18:01
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [its mostly gui software that crash], I don’t know all the programs that they installed they fell18:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that are things like firefox no?18:02
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Fuseteam [lol or flick πŸ˜‹], Flick takes up more space than a usual keyboard18:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> does it?18:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/rQwea6CU.png18:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/x016Uu8C.png18:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Unless you mean a physical keyboard :p18:03
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [that are things like firefox no?], I put 3-4 programs for the test Cowsay - I just didn't understand how to run it Firefox - crash GIMP - crash Courage - Departure18:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Did you install cowsay in libertine in rootfs or in libertine18:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> That might be an path issue18:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Firefox and gimp are gui apps18:06
ubptgbot<mimecar> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/DBGsIUEg.png18:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Courage i never heard of18:06
ubptgbot<mimecar> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/IZzbSbEw.png18:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Well hello18:06
ubptgbot<mimecar> Gimp and Libreoffice works on M10 FHD without problemas18:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Is that a tablet?18:07
ubptgbot<mimecar> yes18:07
ubptgbot<mimecar> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/NT60RbgN.png Firefox18:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Yes it is xD18:07
ubptgbot<NotKit> does Flickr keyboard work for Russian input?18:07
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @Fuseteam [Did you install cowsay in libertine in rootfs or in libertine], I honestly don't know .... I created a container there and went in there and installed ....18:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Looks awesome18:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [does Flickr keyboard work for Russian input?], It could be adapted for it i think18:08
ubptgbot<mimecar> The screenshots are from April of this year18:08
ubptgbot<NotKit> 33 letters though18:08
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @mimecar [<reply to media>], Envy level over 1000000018:08
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> For now flick is based on qwerty18:09
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Hot damn is that a proper T9 predictive keyboard? thats amazing18:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [33 letters though], Hmm 7 letters extra18:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PiecerEdd [Hot damn is that a proper T9 predictive keyboard? thats amazing], Something like that :p18:09
ubptgbot<NotKit> there seem to be symbols that can be sacrificed though, like <> {} / @ etc18:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [33 letters though], Are all the symbol from qwerty also available on the russian keyboard?18:10
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> buuuut... I like UT mostly because its not a spyware platform for Google, that's pretty much my primary 'killer app' over Android... that and Android is just sometimes SO hard to get perfectly normal computery things done on it (Why is Syncthing so terrible on Android? here's a clue, it's not because Syncthing is bad...), and the filesy18:10
ubptgbotstem in Android is just a nightmare18:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [there seem to be symbols that can be sacrificed though, like <> {} / @ etc], Hmm yeah was thinking of that18:10
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> what exactly is wrong with ~/Pictures, ~/Videos etc.? nothing... except Android seems to thin so18:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Btw that's just one 'layer'18:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/CuWGICIS.png18:12
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> :^318:12
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam [Are all the symbol from qwerty also available on the russian keyboard?], https://www.dsi-keyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/KA-RussianStudent-20820.jpg on PC it is something like this18:12
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [buuuut... I like UT mostly because its not a spyware platform for Google, that's …], What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single cloud application in UT ... And in principle, there is not even KDE Connect, which is almost a classic for Linux18:12
ubptgbot<NotKit> we switch between layouts to type with Latin letters18:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [https://www.dsi-keyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/KA-RussianStudent-20820 …], Ah thanks i'll see if i can make a russian version18:13
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @Mister_Tails121 [What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single c …], Syncthing is a specific synchronization software... in Android its crippled by Android's lousy filesystem/permissions setup18:13
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> you cant sync files on your SD card unless the SD card is added as system storage18:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [we switch between layouts to type with Latin letters], Oh wow that's quite extensive hmmm18:14
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> and then the Android camera puts your photos and videos all in one file rather than splitting them up which messes up my Syncthing pool (where ALL the computers, except the Android phone, has a ~/Pictures/Camera folder and a ~/Videos/Camera folder)18:14
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [Syncthing is a specific synchronization software... in Android its crippled by A …], Honestly ... This is the first time I've heard of him ... And about the file system. Isn't EXT3 in Android?18:14
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Mister_Tails121 [What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single c …], That due to the qt version :p the upgrade is in progress ;318:15
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @Mister_Tails121 [Honestly ... This is the first time I've heard of him ... And about the file sys …], maybe 'filesystem' was the wrong word... but more like, the file tree layout?18:15
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam [Oh wow that's quite extensive hmmm], stock UT keyboard has "world" icon when you enable more than one keyboard layout18:15
ubptgbot<NotKit> ah, which is also used to switch to Flick18:16
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [maybe 'filesystem' was the wrong word... but more like, the file tree layout?], Well, the file tree is really crooked ...18:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Uh yes it is haha18:16
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (but with how the apps are confined, it's not quite as 'open' as Sailfish's, which is fine by me, you still get access to the normal XDG user dirs)18:17
ubptgbotadampigg was added by: adampigg18:18
ubptgbot<NotKit> @adampigg hi :)18:18
ubptgbot<adampigg> hi @NotKit ....18:18
ubptgbot<adampigg> i come seeking developers18:18
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yesterday i learned part of the reason ut apps are conf;ned is likely also for battery management :318:20
ubptgbot<adampigg> i wonder ... do any ubports devs have a miband* or amazfit* (or pinetime) watch/band ... and would like to bring my app to UT .... i have spent the last week or so making it not sailfish dependant ... it now runs on sailfish silica and kirigami on the desktop, and should be relatively straightforward to port to UT18:20
ubptgbot<adampigg> any interest?18:20
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yes, in general, I would share everything Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything through the18:21
ubptgbotcontainer, albeit crookedly Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!"18:21
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yes, in general, I would share everything Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything through the18:22
ubptgbotcontainer, albeit crookedly Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!"18:22
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], [Edit] Yes, in general, I would share everything  β€¦ Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles  β€¦ UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything18:22
ubptgbot through the container, albeit crookedly  β€¦ Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing  β€¦ Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!"18:22
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> ive never used PmOS any more than just installing it and going 'huh this is cool' to be fair, I've no idea what that's got going for it18:23
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> I have however used UT and Sailfish as daily drivers on multiple devices πŸ˜† both have their merits18:23
ubptgbot<NotKit> @adampigg [any interest?], may be good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN18:24
ubptgbot<NotKit> @adampigg [any interest?], [Edit] maybe good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN18:24
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [ive never used PmOS any more than just installing it and going 'huh this is cool …], Well, he seems to live ... There are clearly fewer devices with him than with UT18:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> i deleted your message @Mister_Tails121 because it is not appropriate for this community. please avoid using such colorful terminology to describe your personal feelings about various operating systems in here. thanks18:24
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @Mister_Tails121 [Well, he seems to live ... There are clearly fewer devices with him than with UT], I have an n900 which is very well supported by PmOS, its just a bit too slow to test the more modern GUI's on there18:25
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @dohbee [i deleted your message @Mister_Tails121 because it is not appropriate for this c …], Ah, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I will try to avoid it next time18:25
ubptgbot<adampigg> @NotKit [maybe good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN], will do18:26
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [I have an n900 which is very well supported by PmOS, its just a bit too slow to …], Well, I don’t know ... I think it’s not worth it ...  β€¦ If the design for KDE Plasma Mobile looks worse than the desktop version ... Only Gnome Phocs (or whatever it is called) is basically beautiful ... and unity8 cannot be installed18:28
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> you can actually install Hildon too which is cool18:28
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [you can actually install Hildon too which is cool], I hear about him for the first time18:29
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> hildon's the gtk-based DE that the n900 shipped with18:29
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> optimised for stylus use... because the n900 has a resistive touchscreen so fat-fingering it is a terrible idea πŸ˜†18:30
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> @PiecerEdd [hildon's the gtk-based DE that the n900 shipped with], but device exclusive ....18:30
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> i assume you could install it on any other PmOS-enabled device18:30
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> no idea though18:30
ubptgbot<Mister_Tails121> By the way, you know, I've installed only 7 versions of Unity on the PC too ... And I realized that the shells of today are somehow ... Sluggish ... I wonder when the designers were so blown away ... Unity7 is very nice especially with Compiz ... It's a pity especially that Compiz won't work in UT18:32
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Mister_Tails121 [You know, people, I’m thinking like that now .... But UT has a Terminal applicat …], I've used the Terminal app to update modem firmware, and fix fingerprint reader support for my Meizu Pro 5, by running some scripts - so it's been very useful for me.18:40
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Mister_Tails121 [What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single c …], UBsync works very well for me for automatic backups and syncing to my NextCloud account.18:42
ubptgbot<Alexi> hi everybody. I have noticed that on my BQ Aquaris E4.6 sometimes the hotspot doesn't work. I activate the hotspot and then nothing happens. I had also a similar problem with the alarm. Did anybody notice something similar before? Thank you!18:44
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> i cant decide if I'd rather go through the effort of setting up a Nextcloud and using more of its features... or just syncing my stuff via syncthing πŸ˜† i feel like nextcloud's probably easier in the long run18:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @PiecerEdd [i cant decide if I'd rather go through the effort of setting up a Nextcloud and …], There are third party vendors that have NextCloud remote server subscriptions available of you don't want to bother setting up your own server - I use https://owncube.com18:50
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> im happy to set it up, its migrating to it that im not sure i can be arsed with18:51
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> right now my server machine has all my syncthing files on it, so its essentially a mothership syncthing server thing18:51
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> but if i setup nextcloud... I'll have all my data on nextcloud AND syncthing wont I? or can i use my already-existing syncthing folders?18:52
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> ooh, could use the 'external storage' part18:54
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> interesting18:54
ubptgbot<libremax> @Alexi [hi everybody. I have noticed that on my BQ Aquaris E4.6 sometimes the hotspot do …], Hotspot activation is not consistent on many devices :https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?q=is%3Aissue+hotspot19:02
ubptgbot<flatboard> I have Bluetooth issue on meizu pro 5 with OTA-14, i can associate speakers devices but never sound out19:11
ubptgbot<flatboard> [Edit] HI all, I have Bluetooth issue on meizu pro 5 with OTA-14, i can associate speakers devices but never sound out19:12
ubptgbot<libremax> Before OTA-14 that was working ?19:18
ubptgbot<flatboard> Yes19:19
ubptgbot<flatboard> OTA-11 is ok19:19
ubptgbot<libremax> You can fill a bug report about that : https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues19:23
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], really late reply and might not be exactly what you look for but you can disabled the popup but not the screen wakeup. You can got to Settings > Notifications to set Notification setting per app19:25
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], [Edit] really late reply and might not be exactly what you look for but you can disable the popup/bubble but not the screen wakeup. You can got to Settings > Notifications to set Notification setting per app19:26
ubptgbot<BlackHat17> @PiecerEdd [i cant decide if I'd rather go through the effort of setting up a Nextcloud and …], You can use NextCloudPi. It's very easy, the setup part is already done for you.19:30
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @BlackHat17 [You can use NextCloudPi. It's very easy, the setup part is already done for you.], Like I said its not the setup (I've actually just completed the setup... letting it install itself now, thanks NixOS!) its just migration19:31
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> gonna see if i can make it work πŸ˜†19:31
ubptgbot<flatboard> @libremax [You can fill a bug report about that : https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/i …], Done => https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/160219:34
gitbotubports issue 1602 in ubuntu-touch "Bluetooth issue" [Open]19:34
ubptgbot<Mamkin_Xakep_b0t> (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/u7P8xqlG.png19:36
ubptgbot<Mamkin_Xakep_b0t> Hello from Redmi Note 8t!19:36
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> wait... which matrix room is bridged to this telegram channel? I'm in a ubports matrix room and the conversation there looks very different to the one i see here πŸ˜†19:40
ubptgbot<minimec> Our #LupLug Jellyfin talk will start in about 30min. Feel free to join...19:52
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PiecerEdd [Like I said its not the setup (I've actually just completed the setup... letting …], tfw nix uses 1.83gigs of memory on ut20:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @PiecerEdd [wait... which matrix room is bridged to this telegram channel? I'm in a ubports …], matrix isn't bridged irc is20:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> mainly due to member overload20:04
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> ahhh gotcha20:06
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @Fuseteam [tfw nix uses 1.83gigs of memory on ut], well, i meant my server running nixos... not running nix on my phone ☺20:06
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Flohack [Well PostmarketOS and others can do this for you], There are new things such as hybrid mobian20:15
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @Mister_Tails121 [eh .... why do we need libertine if it's actually a crutch and the only thing th …], Wayland is fixable20:19
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> I am working on that20:19
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @dohbee [it's ubuntu 16.04. even if it was 20.04 you'd still be bitching and moaning abou …], If/wen I will fix lxc there will be no such problem20:21
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> You will be able to use lastest Ubuntu alpine arch Linux or anything you like20:21
ubptgbot<kalube> there's a little project to run postmarketos on libhybris, we have graphics and even WiFi on some devices20:24
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ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @kalube [there's a little project to run postmarketos on libhybris, we have graphics and …], HybrisOs or like that20:25
ubptgbot<kalube> @Lukapanio [HybrisOs or like that], yeah that's it20:26
ubptgbot<kalube> I can see most msm8996/msm8998/sdm845 devices getting solid mainline support over the next year or so, sdm845 especially is getting pretty well supported20:27
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @kalube [I can see most msm8996/msm8998/sdm845 devices getting solid mainline support ove …], 8998 support is bad20:27
ubptgbot<kalube> @Lukapanio [8998 support is bad], my only msm8998 device seems to have some issues, but with some out of tree patches it's possible to bring up display on msm8998 and even get WiFi to work as of 2 days ago20:29
ubptgbot<kalube> I have my device booting with USB support and the modems booting20:29
ubptgbot<NotKit> I like how Wi-Fi is under "even" here20:33
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] I like how Wi-Fi is under "even" here (usually it's pretty simple to get in hybris ports)20:34
ubptgbot<Flohack> To distract you all, just scanned 2 fingerprints with Halium 7.1 successfully ^^20:46
ubptgbot<Flohack> (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/NDCibFD8.png20:46
ubptgbot<boriseto> ❀️20:49
ubptgbot<X YZ> @PiecerEdd [I have an n900 which is very well supported by PmOS, its just a bit too slow to …], As soon as I have a little more time I plan to join the pmOS-on-n900 crowd. First attempt to install a few weeks ago failed, though. πŸ˜”21:08
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> hehe21:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [<reply to media>], whoo awesome21:16
ubptgbotbranja6 was added by: branja621:40
ubptgbot<Ern_st> @Flohack [To distract you all, just scanned 2 fingerprints with Halium 7.1 successfully ^^], Well done, wans't too difficult to enable the fingerprint reader ?22:05
ubptgbot<Ern_st> @Flohack [To distract you all, just scanned 2 fingerprints with Halium 7.1 successfully ^^], [Edit] Well done, wans't too difficult to enable the fingerprint reader at the device halium port level ?22:06
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @PiecerEdd [wait... which matrix room is bridged to this telegram channel? I'm in a ubports …], None22:10
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Ern_st [Well done, wans't too difficult to enable the fingerprint reader at the device h …], No thanks to @erfanoabdi he did it for 9.0 already, but most stuff works similar in 7.122:33
ubptgbot<Ern_st> @Flohack [No thanks to @erfanoabdi he did it for 9.0 already, but most stuff works similar …], Yes I've follow his work and got it on my OP3 H9 GSI port. However on the OP3 H7.1 I was not able to enable the finger print reader, no sign of life. It's an FPC1020.22:37
ubptgbot<Ern_st> With H9 GSI, I presume the android binaries can interface the kernel driver and "switch on" the reader + recognize it as a button too. From my understanding erfan work was a layer above to interface the android binary to ubuntutouch base layer (forgot the fingerprint software with plugin)22:41
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @NotKit [I like how Wi-Fi is under "even" here (usually it's pretty simple to get in hybr …], Mainline is other world22:47
ubptgbot<Lukapanio> @kalube [my only msm8998 device seems to have some issues, but with some out of tree patc …], Audio? Battery?22:47
ubptgbot<kalube> @Lukapanio [Audio? Battery?], haven't worked on it yet. want to get display and touch working first. SDM845 has audio working on poco f1 and we're working on a fuel gauge driver which will be compatible with msm8998 (as sdm845 still uses the same power management chip). Charger driver will hopefully come after22:49
ubptgbotCM_Joussef was added by: CM_Joussef23:09
tr4ck3urhi guys, i'v got a question for you, how to put in place my own ssl certificate , it seems the standard way don't do the job, any hint ?23:48
tr4ck3urit seems the browser don't take in account the dpkg reconfigure23:48
tr4ck3uri'm pretty sure the question has already been answered, but i don't know where to search. IRC perhaps23:50
tr4ck3uryes, i think trump own our certificate authorities ... that's why (troll inside)23:53
tr4ck3urby the way, i don't succeed to build "ubp-5.1" neither, i fall into the black hole of it seems a bad option is used... anybody up ?23:58

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