[00:47] Jefferson was added by: Jefferson [00:47] Hi [00:47] i use a Redmi 7A [00:48] i will like install Ubuntu Touch [00:48] who can help me [00:51] please [01:10] @Jefferson [i use a Redmi 7A], Have u checked Supported Devices: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [01:13] i jus see Redmi 7 (Onclite) [01:14] but i did not see Redmi 7A itself [01:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV3SAWdxhwU&t=1103s [01:14] a guy uploaded this video installing on Redmi 7A [01:15] Hmm then you'll have better chance finding an answer in https://t.me/halium [01:19] Thankyou [02:58] People who know if it is possible to clone applications on UT? It's just that I have several accounts in telegram and teleports does not support adding multiple accounts, I thought maybe you can just create a clone of it so that I will install a second account there [03:16] sure [03:17] just rename in the manifest and desktop and rebuild [03:20] @mateosalta [just rename in the manifest and desktop and rebuild], Can you tell me how this can be done? [03:20] https://clickable-ut.dev/en/latest/ [03:21] just change the name in the manifest [03:22] @mateosalta [just change the name in the manifest], Okay, got it. thanks) [03:23] there might be another application name in some apps, in the main.qml [03:23] that has to match, or sometimes in the cpp [03:24] will be like "appname.developername" [03:27] Ok thanks for the note [03:28] And by the way, I had a couple more questions. … 1) And what to do when you turn off the flash in the camera, but it still fires in the dark and no matter how you click the switch, the flash does not turn off. … 2) How can you translate applications to UT? I just wanted to fix the translation in the Weather application, Settings [03:28] and complete the translation in Teleports ... Do you also need to take the source code and change everything there? [03:29] usually a translation file can be edited [03:30] and there are nice graphical tools to make those for you [03:30] @mateosalta [and there are nice graphical tools to make those for you], Where can you find these translation files there? [03:31] https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/tree/master/po [03:32] the teleports.ubports.pot is the template [03:32] things like this https://poedit.net/ [03:34] oh, there is this too [03:34] https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/ [03:35] https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/ [03:35] which teleports has the translations there too it looks like [03:37] @mateosalta [https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/], I think this option is best suited ... Now I'll need to get the files of the same settings [03:39] yeah, you can submit changes there - and if you need them right away you can get the .po file for your lanugage and rebuild the click [03:46] Jin qianqian was added by: Jin qianqian [03:46] Callisto was added by: Callisto [04:08] how is signal on ubports in everyday use? [04:22] good, just checked axolotl, there are no phone calls and push notification yet [05:33] The3DmaN was added by: The3DmaN [05:52] pa pa was added by: pa pa [05:59] essepi78 was added by: essepi78 [06:15] @Mister_Tails121 [And by the way, I had a couple more questions. … 1) And what to do when you turn …], Regarding weather app: Open app, goto about page, press help translate. Or may I suggest the apps readme on gitlab? I did spend some time making this easy for users... 🤓 But obviously I missed something. Is the about page too much hidde [06:15] n in settings? 🤔 [07:50] Jana Maria was added by: Jana Maria [08:28] UAPirat was added by: UAPirat [08:35] @mateosalta [https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/tree/master/po], please never suggest to translate po files directly, this will conflict any changes from Weblate. Only link people to translate.ubports.com [08:57] @Mister_Tails121 [And by the way, I had a couple more questions. … 1) And what to do when you turn …], Please report the flash problem as a bug against Camera app [09:24] Is there a channel for the clickable packaging system. As you can see, the naming isn't helpful when using search engines [10:19] If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so. [10:23] [Edit] If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so. If you have an issue with clickable, you can create a report here : https://gitlab.com/clickable/clickable/-/issues … If your question is a about publishing on openstore there is [10:25] [Edit] If you mean a telegram group, I don't think so. If you have an issue with clickable, you can create a report here : https://gitlab.com/clickable/clickable/-/issues … If your question is a about publishing on openstore there is a group OpenStore [11:53] FILIPPA Stanislaus was added by: FILIPPA Stanislaus [12:10] franceschini clemente was added by: franceschini clemente [14:41] DefenderOfTurks was added by: DefenderOfTurks [16:02] How can I add exec option to a libertine app? Just want to check some things [16:28] Hi Everyone, has anyone ported the Honor 6x to Ubuntu Touch...drawn blanks so far. Thanks in advance. Alex [16:40] if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly [16:42] @Fuseteam [if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly], Can you please suggest some resources for this ? [16:43] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html [16:43] but what is the device in question and it's stock OS version? [16:47] @boriseto [How can I add exec option to a libertine app? Just want to check some things], you can edit app desktop files at `.cache/libertine*/xenial/rootfs/usr/share/applications` … path may be inaacurate 😅 [16:49] @NotKit [but what is the device in question and it's stock OS version?], Redmi note 7pro [16:49] violet? [16:50] @Fuseteam [if its not on devices.ubuntu-touch.io you will need to port it yourself sadly], thanks will check this out [16:53] @NotKit [violet?], Yes [17:36] You know, people, I’m thinking like that now .... But UT has a Terminal application, but here's the point from it if UT is truncated and Linux cannot be named ... What can be done with it .... People tell me please, how are you use UT and, in principle, what advantages of UT would you put in front of an android? [17:40] i mainly use the terminal application as an SSH client/making SSH tunnels (is there a proper app for this?), not really sure what else you expect to do with it :P [17:41] @prasaddash12 [Can you please suggest some resources for this ?], it is linked on that page aswell fwiw [17:41] @PiecerEdd [i mainly use the terminal application as an SSH client/making SSH tunnels (is th …], Hmm ... Isn't there an SSH client for Android? [17:42] @Mister_Tails121 [You know, people, I’m thinking like that now .... But UT has a Terminal applicat …], what do you mean 'truncated'? [17:43] i use it to ssh into things but also to modify some files on the device to test changes and what not [17:44] @Fuseteam [what do you mean 'truncated'?], This is mainly a problem with google translate But to summarize all my words in short, "If UT is not Linux in the usual sense, what is the advantage of UT over Android, and how can you use the terminal" [17:45] @Fuseteam [what do you mean 'truncated'?], [Edit] This is mainly a problem with google translate … But to summarize all my words in short, "If UT is not Linux in the usual sense, what is the advantage of UT over Android, and how can you use the terminal" [17:45] ut is also must more energy efficient than android; while android maintains quite a few tcp connections, ut only maintains one, and only one [17:46] @Fuseteam [i use it to ssh into things but also to modify some files on the device to test …], The terminal has no more purpose than SSH. 😅 [17:46] what would you like to do with it? [17:47] ohw i once used nmap with it too [17:47] and before i forget i often use it to test changes before the even hit devel [17:48] [Edit] and before i forget i often use it to test changes before they even hit devel [17:48] changes like this keyboard :^3 [17:48] using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful [17:48] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/M27knYx0.png [17:49] @Fuseteam [what would you like to do with it?], Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn how to set up servers .... If UT were a full-fledged Linux, then it would be possible to learn to work with Apahe, NextCloud, Samba and other network protocols on it .. .. If UT could do this, it would be [17:49] an indispensable textbook and telephone [17:49] Mamkin_Xakep_b0t was added by: Mamkin_Xakep_b0t [17:49] you don't want your UT device to be server [17:50] [Edit] you don't want your UT device to be a server [17:50] @Mister_Tails121 [Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn …], you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash memory right? [17:50] if you really do, of course you can remount filesystem rw and install things, but don't blame us if it breaks [17:50] @NotKit [you don't want your UT device to be a server], well it can run "a server" :P [17:50] i prefer having the rootfs on a hard drive or something [17:51] @Mister_Tails121 [Hmm .... To be honest, I would like to learn how to use Linux systems and learn …], Use a desktop PC for learning. Its totally unconvenient to work on such a small display with your fingers in a terminal app. You will get frustrated [17:51] @Fuseteam [you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash …], regarding flash memory, not all server software kills it [17:51] but also running any Linux chroot is pretty trivial on UT, you can even start LXC or Docker containers [17:51] eh? an harddrive on a phone? [17:51] @NotKit [using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful], To be honest, in general, the UT keyboard is very painful compared to Gboard on Android. [17:51] @Fuseteam [eh? an harddrive on a phone?], possible, abuse the otg port for powering hard drives :D [17:51] in what way? [17:52] @RealDanct12 [possible, abuse the otg port for powering hard drives :D], 🤣🤣🤣🤣 [17:52] @Mister_Tails121 [This is mainly a problem with google translate … But to summarize all my words i …], Privacy, no data mining by Google and other companies, no spyware etc. You take back control over your digital life, much better defining what you agree to and what not [17:53] In pure technical terms, there is (yet) not that much benefit plus Android has a much better user experience yes. But it comes with a price and many people dont want their data to be sold 24/7 [17:53] and you know if something is using gps at a glance too [17:53] @Fuseteam [you do realize that server software would kill both your battery and your flash …], Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7) … Purely first, he will learn how to work with him and then save up money and buy a VPS (by that time I’ll graduate from school) [17:53] Basically if you use Android you pay with your data for using it. Its not a free sofware you are using. On top of the costs of the phone itself plus the plan from your carrier [17:53] So its basically quite expensive thing to use :P [17:55] @Mister_Tails121 [Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7) … Purely first, he will learn how t …], well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine really ;3 … there's more to linux than just server software, learn about chroot it will save you a lot of time [17:55] @Mister_Tails121 [Well, I'm not going to keep the server 24/7) … Purely first, he will learn how t …], [Edit] well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine either way ;3 … there's more to linux than just server software, learn about chroot it will save you a lot of time [17:55] @Flohack [Privacy, no data mining by Google and other companies, no spyware etc. You take …], As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just ... feel sick of the design of Android 9-10 and I can no longer use it ... And I just adore the design of Unity8 ... As for privatization, it won't work like [17:55] that ... Most likely they can also spy [17:56] @Mister_Tails121 [As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just …], Well none of the big comanies will ever do an App for UT, so - no ^^ [17:56] When you use google search, a bit of spying will happen but compare it to the ton of data that Android can collect [17:56] Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup while the screen is locked? Thanks in advance [17:57] @Fuseteam [well you can do all that fine in a chroot or libertine either way ;3 … there's mor …], does chroot work UT? And about Libertine .... Well, at 1 he is dead ... and at 2 there is no terminal) [17:57] @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], No, sorry [17:57] @Mister_Tails121 [As for the interface, this is of course already subjective ... I personally just …], they can't actually, ut apps are confined ;3 [17:57] @was1name [Hey is there any way to disable the notification-popup and the screen-wakeup whi …], You can turn off all notifications [17:58] @Mister_Tails121 [does chroot work UT? And about Libertine .... Well, at 1 he is dead ... and at 2 …], libertine uses chroot so yes, yes it works [17:58] Libertine uses proot I think [17:58] but chroot will work if mounts are handled properly [17:58] and you can get shell access into libertine [17:58] Ok thanks for the quick response :) Otherwise ubuntu touch is really nice to use 👍🏼 [17:59] @Fuseteam [and you can get shell access into libertine], This is good .... Only here would be to fix the crashes of all programs that are installed there [18:00] @NotKit [using Terminal a lot on touch-screen phone is pretty painful], Thats why we need f(x)tec or the keyboard add on for the pinephone :sunglasses: [18:00] cli software works fine iirc [18:00] its mostly gui software that crash [18:01] @PhoenixLandPirate [Thats why we need f(x)tec or the keyboard add on for the pinephone :sunglasses:], lol or flick 😋 [18:01] @Fuseteam [its mostly gui software that crash], I don’t know all the programs that they installed they fell [18:02] that are things like firefox no? [18:02] @Fuseteam [lol or flick 😋], Flick takes up more space than a usual keyboard [18:02] does it? [18:03] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/rQwea6CU.png [18:03] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/x016Uu8C.png [18:03] Unless you mean a physical keyboard :p [18:05] @Fuseteam [that are things like firefox no?], I put 3-4 programs for the test Cowsay - I just didn't understand how to run it Firefox - crash GIMP - crash Courage - Departure [18:05] Did you install cowsay in libertine in rootfs or in libertine [18:06] That might be an path issue [18:06] Firefox and gimp are gui apps [18:06] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/DBGsIUEg.png [18:06] Courage i never heard of [18:06] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/IZzbSbEw.png [18:06] Well hello [18:07] Gimp and Libreoffice works on M10 FHD without problemas [18:07] Is that a tablet? [18:07] yes [18:07] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/NT60RbgN.png Firefox [18:07] Yes it is xD [18:07] does Flickr keyboard work for Russian input? [18:07] @Fuseteam [Did you install cowsay in libertine in rootfs or in libertine], I honestly don't know .... I created a container there and went in there and installed .... [18:07] Looks awesome [18:08] @NotKit [does Flickr keyboard work for Russian input?], It could be adapted for it i think [18:08] The screenshots are from April of this year [18:08] 33 letters though [18:08] @mimecar [], Envy level over 10000000 [18:09] For now flick is based on qwerty [18:09] @Fuseteam [], Hot damn is that a proper T9 predictive keyboard? thats amazing [18:09] @NotKit [33 letters though], Hmm 7 letters extra [18:09] @PiecerEdd [Hot damn is that a proper T9 predictive keyboard? thats amazing], Something like that :p [18:10] there seem to be symbols that can be sacrificed though, like <> {} / @ etc [18:10] @NotKit [33 letters though], Are all the symbol from qwerty also available on the russian keyboard? [18:10] buuuut... I like UT mostly because its not a spyware platform for Google, that's pretty much my primary 'killer app' over Android... that and Android is just sometimes SO hard to get perfectly normal computery things done on it (Why is Syncthing so terrible on Android? here's a clue, it's not because Syncthing is bad...), and the filesy [18:10] stem in Android is just a nightmare [18:10] @NotKit [there seem to be symbols that can be sacrificed though, like <> {} / @ etc], Hmm yeah was thinking of that [18:11] what exactly is wrong with ~/Pictures, ~/Videos etc.? nothing... except Android seems to thin so [18:11] Btw that's just one 'layer' [18:12] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/CuWGICIS.png [18:12] :^3 [18:12] @Fuseteam [Are all the symbol from qwerty also available on the russian keyboard?], https://www.dsi-keyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/KA-RussianStudent-20820.jpg on PC it is something like this [18:12] @PiecerEdd [buuuut... I like UT mostly because its not a spyware platform for Google, that's …], What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single cloud application in UT ... And in principle, there is not even KDE Connect, which is almost a classic for Linux [18:13] we switch between layouts to type with Latin letters [18:13] @NotKit [https://www.dsi-keyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/KA-RussianStudent-20820 …], Ah thanks i'll see if i can make a russian version [18:13] @Mister_Tails121 [What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single c …], Syncthing is a specific synchronization software... in Android its crippled by Android's lousy filesystem/permissions setup [18:13] you cant sync files on your SD card unless the SD card is added as system storage [18:14] @NotKit [we switch between layouts to type with Latin letters], Oh wow that's quite extensive hmmm [18:14] and then the Android camera puts your photos and videos all in one file rather than splitting them up which messes up my Syncthing pool (where ALL the computers, except the Android phone, has a ~/Pictures/Camera folder and a ~/Videos/Camera folder) [18:14] @PiecerEdd [Syncthing is a specific synchronization software... in Android its crippled by A …], Honestly ... This is the first time I've heard of him ... And about the file system. Isn't EXT3 in Android? [18:15] @Mister_Tails121 [What kind of synchronization do you mean? It's just that I don't know a single c …], That due to the qt version :p the upgrade is in progress ;3 [18:15] @Mister_Tails121 [Honestly ... This is the first time I've heard of him ... And about the file sys …], maybe 'filesystem' was the wrong word... but more like, the file tree layout? [18:15] @Fuseteam [Oh wow that's quite extensive hmmm], stock UT keyboard has "world" icon when you enable more than one keyboard layout [18:16] ah, which is also used to switch to Flick [18:16] @PiecerEdd [maybe 'filesystem' was the wrong word... but more like, the file tree layout?], Well, the file tree is really crooked ... [18:16] Uh yes it is haha [18:17] Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (but with how the apps are confined, it's not quite as 'open' as Sailfish's, which is fine by me, you still get access to the normal XDG user dirs) [18:18] adampigg was added by: adampigg [18:18] @adampigg hi :) [18:18] hi @NotKit .... [18:18] i come seeking developers [18:20] @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yesterday i learned part of the reason ut apps are conf;ned is likely also for battery management :3 [18:20] i wonder ... do any ubports devs have a miband* or amazfit* (or pinetime) watch/band ... and would like to bring my app to UT .... i have spent the last week or so making it not sailfish dependant ... it now runs on sailfish silica and kirigami on the desktop, and should be relatively straightforward to port to UT [18:20] any interest? [18:21] @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yes, in general, I would share everything Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything through the [18:21] container, albeit crookedly Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!" [18:22] @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], Yes, in general, I would share everything Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything through the [18:22] container, albeit crookedly Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!" [18:22] @PiecerEdd [Sailfish uses an almost 100% standard linux file tree... UT isn't far behind (bu …], [Edit] Yes, in general, I would share everything … Android - that Frakenstein who was castrated and he is without testicles … UT - like Linux, but he is with a gift in the form of castration (trap), but he tries to replace everything [18:22] through the container, albeit crookedly … Postmarketing OS - Alpine Linux ... not castrated, nothing … Salfish - "Who are you (Russian strong curse word)? What are you ?!" [18:23] ive never used PmOS any more than just installing it and going 'huh this is cool' to be fair, I've no idea what that's got going for it [18:23] I have however used UT and Sailfish as daily drivers on multiple devices 😆 both have their merits [18:24] @adampigg [any interest?], may be good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN [18:24] @adampigg [any interest?], [Edit] maybe good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN [18:24] @PiecerEdd [ive never used PmOS any more than just installing it and going 'huh this is cool …], Well, he seems to live ... There are clearly fewer devices with him than with UT [18:24] i deleted your message @Mister_Tails121 because it is not appropriate for this community. please avoid using such colorful terminology to describe your personal feelings about various operating systems in here. thanks [18:25] @Mister_Tails121 [Well, he seems to live ... There are clearly fewer devices with him than with UT], I have an n900 which is very well supported by PmOS, its just a bit too slow to test the more modern GUI's on there [18:25] @dohbee [i deleted your message @Mister_Tails121 because it is not appropriate for this c …], Ah, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I will try to avoid it next time [18:26] @NotKit [maybe good idea to also ask at https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN], will do [18:28] @PiecerEdd [I have an n900 which is very well supported by PmOS, its just a bit too slow to …], Well, I don’t know ... I think it’s not worth it ... … If the design for KDE Plasma Mobile looks worse than the desktop version ... Only Gnome Phocs (or whatever it is called) is basically beautiful ... and unity8 cannot be installed [18:28]