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wxlteward: oh???00:00
josenhaines: admin rights? if so please share00:00
josemod isn't enough to create wiki articles :(00:00
joseanything else urgent anyone wants to bring up?00:00
wxlall i care about is having access to the cc category00:00
joseotherwise we'll close the floor00:00
nhainesjose: maybe! I'll check tonight.00:00
EickmeyerGotta go. Bye everyone! o/00:00
linaporrasno...00:00
wxlclose it up00:00
joseThanks everyone for participating! See y'all in two weeks, same time!00:00
linaporraswe can go bed or continue working...00:00
jose#endmeeting00:00
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nhainesBye, everyone! :)00:01
tewardsee ya00:01
tewardthanks for chairing Jose00:01
linaporrasbye!00:01
toddyjose: thanks for chairing00:01
wxlthanks to everyone especially nhaines and linaporras for showing up00:01
linaporras+1 jose!00:01
wxlit's really great to have the full team00:01
wxli really really really REALLY appreciate that00:01
joseindeed it is :)00:01
linaporras hope to be hear every 2 weeks!!!!00:01
wxlgold stars for all of you!00:01
toddyand for you, wxl00:02
nhainesI must've gotten my time zones mixed up!00:02
nhainesBut now I'm ready for next time!00:02
joseDST :)00:02
nhainesYup. Still not happy about the sun setting at 4:45 pm. :)00:04
toddygood night. :)00:04
nhainesGood night, toddy!00:05
josesleep well!00:07
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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov 19 16:01:08 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round16:01
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bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)16:01
bdmurraybdmurray sil2100 mwhudson xnox vorlon juliank doko rbalint slyon tdaitx waveform16:01
rbalinto/16:01
bdmurrayuploaded Bionic SRU for LP: #185414816:01
bdmurrayuploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #187006016:01
bdmurrayverified the above SRU16:01
bdmurrayuploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #184882916:01
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1854148 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1854148). The error has been logged16:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Groovy) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187006016:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1848829 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "distribution upgrade failed due pip install of distro-info" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184882916:01
bdmurraywrote a test case for the above too16:02
bdmurraysponsored Bionic SRU for LP: #161173716:02
bdmurrayinvestigation into gdb bug LP: #181891816:02
bdmurraymerged libssh16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1611737 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "Can't upgrade from a release if ros packages are installed from ROS servers" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161173716:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181891816:02
bdmurraywrote a better tool for removing EoL crash data from the Error Tracker16:02
bdmurray✔ done16:02
bdmurraysil2100:16:02
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:02
sil2100- Reviews for the focal HWE update16:02
sil2100- NEW reviews16:02
sil2100- DMB meeting16:02
sil2100- Reviewing DBus get/set PR from Lukas16:02
sil2100- Some training16:02
sil2100- Adding new kab language-pack16:02
sil2100- 20.04.2/EOL/Archive opening retrospective16:02
sil2100- Finalizing some archive opening tasks in a work-session16:02
sil2100- Started drafting action items for ESM britney16:02
sil2100- Sponsoring some u-boot backports16:02
sil2100- Discussions16:02
sil2100- Working on the ubuntu-image backlog16:02
sil2100(done)16:02
bdmurrayxnox:16:03
xnoxriscv64 build & cloud-images are now available as chroots, lxd, and non-bootable .img16:03
xnoxnext livecd-rootfs upload to hirsute should make .img bootable with uboot-qemu16:03
xnoxmade u-boot-menu look nicer with Ubuntu branding16:03
xnoxs390-tools 2.15.1 packaging work, now out.16:03
xnoxlots of things stuck in proposed migration16:03
xnoxdone16:03
juliankI don't really have anything public I can think of to say right now16:04
juliankit's vorlon's turn actually16:04
bdmurrayvorlon: ?16:04
vorlon * working on proposed-migration: ghc transition should finish today!16:05
vorlon * discussions around handling of the nvidia-cuda-toolkit package in the archive16:05
bdmurraysil2100: 20.04.2 retrospective? that's forward thinking16:05
vorlon * next week: not going to be at the meeting because Thanksgiving16:05
vorlon(done)16:05
doko- started GCC 11 packaging16:05
doko- investigated three different cross compiler ftbfs16:05
doko- started bisecting our armhf compiler problem16:05
doko- binutils & gcc updates16:05
doko- various ftbfs fixes and test triggers16:05
doko- +1 maintenance starting today16:05
doko(done)16:05
sil2100bdmurray: aaaaaaaa16:05
rbalint* internal trainings16:05
rbalint* landing glibc again to hirsute16:05
rbalint* found more retry strings for autopkgtest infra16:05
rbalint* reverted dash to fix LP: #190440616:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1904406 in systemd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest hangs in timedated test" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190440616:05
rbalint* sponsored update-notifier 3.192.36 after fixing up the packaging repo's missing files16:05
rbalint* partner work16:05
sil2100bdmurray: was supposed to be 20.10 retrospective! What was I thinking?16:05
rbalint* endorsed slyon's MOTU application16:05
rbalint* +1 maintenance16:05
rbalint(done)16:05
sil2100bdmurray: it's not even close!16:05
slyon- proposed-migration for curl, trying to fix etcd flakiness16:05
slyon  * some test retries and etcd hinted, MP#39417316:05
slyon- s390-tools Bionic SRU, bug #186503216:05
slyon  * Investigating bug #1860574 & bug #1859018 => invalid/released16:05
slyon- Applied for MOTU & netplan.io PPU16:05
slyon=== Netplan ===16:05
slyon- Investigating MTU bug #1724895 => fix released16:05
slyon- Debugging interface rename issue via IRC, bug #190466216:05
ubottubug 1865032 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU] zipl/libc: Fix potential buffer overflow in printf" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186503216:05
ubottubug 1860574 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix display of clear key size for XTS keys" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186057416:06
ubottubug 1859018 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix listing of keys on file systems reporting DT_UNKNOWN." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185901816:06
ubottubug 1724895 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "MTU not applied on private ethernet interfaces" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172489516:06
ubottubug 1904662 in netplan "netplan apply fails to rename network interfaces without reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190466216:06
slyon- Working on OVScon talk/slides16:06
slyon- Discussions about NetworkManager snap & r/w plugin16:06
slyon- Improving NM netplan backend spec16:06
slyon- Improving DBus code from PR#17016:06
slyon- Investigating 'link-local:' stanza => missing for NM backend16:06
slyon- Looking into new PR#17216:06
slyon(done)16:06
tdaitx* finally got openjdk-8 to migrate from hirsute-proposed16:06
tdaitx* opened bug 1903929 about openjdk uploads (non-default-java) triggering unnecessary tests)16:06
tdaitx  - digged into britney autopkgtest policy, depends, and relationships16:06
tdaitx  - no clear way to prevent it from happening (that I can see)16:06
tdaitx  - custom rule (similar to gcc) would work, but feels dirty and does not scale16:06
ubottubug 1903929 in britney "openjdk-8 uploads trigger swi-prolog, fdroidserver, and libreoffice autopkgtests unnecessarily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190392916:06
tdaitx  - unclear if ignoring alt-deps wouldn't cause unexpected problems16:06
tdaitx  - kinda feels like autopkgtest policy could have for its own hook/policies16:06
tdaitx  - pinged Laney about it16:06
tdaitx  - not a priority, but wanted to get the discussion and inputs going16:06
tdaitx* started upstream discussion on how to get jtdiff to accept report files not necessarily named 'summary.txt' (as in the current hardcoded check)16:06
tdaitx* adding better support for lxd in jck scripts (remotes, project)16:06
tdaitx  - improving resilience: too many places where it can get stuck and unresponsive16:06
tdaitx(done)16:06
bdmurrayWaVeR:16:06
bdmurrayoops16:06
bdmurraywaveform:16:06
waveform* Worked on u-boot SRU (LP: #1903054)16:07
waveform* Worked on flash-kernel merge (LP: #1904890)16:07
waveform* Investigated multi-kernel setup for f-k16:07
waveform* Worked on bluez patch upstreaming (LP: #1903048)16:07
waveform* Core 20 boot meetings16:07
waveform(done)16:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1903054 in u-boot (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] Please merge u-boot 2020.10+dfsg-1 from Debian unstable" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190305416:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1904890 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "Please merge flash-kernel 3.103 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190489016:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1903048 in bluez (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[SRU] Bluetooth won't activate on the pi 400" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190304816:07
bdmurrayany questions on status?16:07
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs16:08
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:08
bdmurraybug 1903849 is in progress16:09
ubottubug 1903849 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190384916:09
bdmurraybug 190104316:09
ubottubug 1901043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No sound in ubiquity-dm with nomodeset" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190104316:09
xnoxew16:10
sil2100This one?16:10
sil2100We still didn't take it?16:10
sil2100I thought we did16:10
bdmurrayNo, we haven't taken it yet16:11
bdmurrayWould it be good for 20.04.2?16:11
bdmurrayWell, I guess we should see if it is broken in 20.04.2 first16:12
bdmurrayer 20.04.116:12
xnoxhm, yeah i don't think we check if it's broken in focal dailies.16:12
xnoxit is broken in groovy16:12
bdmurraySo let's take that for investigation16:12
sil2100+116:12
bdmurraybug 190066816:12
ubottubug 1900668 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "MAAS PXE Boot stalls with grub 2.02 " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190066816:12
juliank2.9/candidate is said to work all the time16:13
juliankmaas that is16:13
juliankis what #13 says16:13
bdmurrayGiven that it's being investigated let's card it.16:13
juliankbut yeah16:13
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:14
bdmurraydoko is there any update on bug 1890435?16:14
ubottubug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189043516:14
bdmurrayChristian has added some more info16:15
doko<doko> - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem16:15
bdmurrayah, great16:15
bdmurraybug 1871538 is tagged champagne but we still don't have enough16:16
ubottubug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187153816:16
bdmurrayhave enough something somethin16:16
bdmurraySo perhaps we should untag it?16:16
rbalint+116:17
bdmurrayokay16:18
slyon+1, has been sitting too long without activity..16:18
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:18
bdmurraybug 1900390 has already been carded16:18
ubottubug 1900390 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-update hangs from use of user $PATH (specifically 'npm which')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190039016:18
bdmurrayso that's that for bugs16:18
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report16:18
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bdmurrayvorlon:16:19
vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:19
juliank147 packages needing attention, 12 packages not yet considered late16:20
juliankyikes16:20
vorlonthere's a ton of perl-related stuff which I'll ignore for now16:20
xnoxwell16:20
xnoxi thought i did lots of micro transitions that are now entagled with perl.16:20
vorlonboost1.71 waiting on an autopkgtest - I'll take a look at this, might just need a requeue16:20
vorlondbus-python, who wants this?16:20
xnoxdo we have anybody actively looking into pushing perl doom. or are there any entanglements that we can assign and/or fix to help perl?16:20
rbalintme16:21
dokoocaml is disentangled, see #u-r16:21
rbalintperl is promising, many retries are pending16:21
vorlonwhich AIUI only lets ocaml go first16:21
dokoyes16:22
vorlonbut let's go through these packages in order, shall we?  any volunteers for dbus-python?16:22
dokowaiting ...16:22
rbalintthe pending ppc64el tests are holding perl back16:22
bdmurrayI'll take dbus-python16:22
vorlonbdmurray: thanks16:22
vorlonlibcgi-pm-perl appears to be blocked for reasons unrelated to perl itself16:23
vorlonrbalint: can you take libcgi-pm-perl?16:23
rbalintyes16:23
vorlonthanks16:23
vorlonncurses: I'll have a look16:23
vorlonnetbase: mercurial, which is pretty flaky; I'll take this one too16:24
vorlonopenssh vs sshuttle: slyon could you have a look?16:24
slyonyes16:24
slyonand maybe also pycurl, as I've done curl before..16:24
vorlonslyon: ok, it's yours16:24
vorlonpygments: sil2100?16:24
waveformI can take pygments16:25
vorlonpython-debian: xnox?16:25
tdaitxbdmurray: vorlon: I had dbus-python and netbase on a card already16:25
sil2100vorlon: sure o/16:25
xnoxvorlon:  ok.16:25
vorlontdaitx: oh? did we assign these in a previous meeting?16:25
tdaitxyes, we did16:25
sil2100Oh16:25
bdmurrayvorlon, sylon: I had openssh last week so will finish that16:25
sil2100waveform took it, so nvm!16:25
slyonbdmurray: ok!16:25
vorlonwas it a meeting I wasn't at?16:25
vorlon:)16:25
vorlonok we'll keep the previous assignments16:27
vorlondbus-python: tdaitx16:27
vorlonlibcgi-pm-perl: rbalint16:28
vorlonncurses: me16:28
vorlonnetbase: tdaitx16:28
vorlonopenssh: bdmurray16:28
vorlonpycurl: slyon16:29
vorlonpygments: waveform16:29
vorlonpython-debian: xnox16:29
vorlonpyyaml: sil2100?16:30
vorlonsetuptools: juliank?16:30
sil2100o/16:30
juliankvorlon: I'd rather fix the python-apt regressions16:31
vorlonjuliank: mmk16:31
vorlonsetuptools: doko?16:31
dokojuliank: and software-properties?16:31
dokoyes, although this is all unrelated16:31
juliankdoko: Yes, python-apt regresses software-properties16:31
juliankit needs to work at the end or it's not useful :)16:31
julianknote that 0.99.4 was triggered with software-properties/0.99.4 ubuntu-drivers-common/1:0.8.6.2 pyqt5/5.15.1+dfsg-2build1 dbus-python/1.2.16-4 pycurl/7.43.0.6-4 setuptools/50.3.0-116:32
vorlongdb: bdmurray: do you want to look at this?16:32
vorlon(blocked by an apport autopkgtest regression)16:32
vorlonsoftware-properties: juliank, per above16:33
bdmurrayI thought I fixed that16:33
vorloncdebconf: my upload, I'll take it16:33
vorlonbdmurray: then it should be easy for you to follow through :)16:34
bdmurrayaw snap!16:34
vorlongit: also my upload, I'll take it16:34
vorlonpython-apt is juliank16:34
vorlonpython3-stdlib-extensions: waveform?16:34
dokosshuttle, slyon?16:34
waveformvorlon, ok16:34
tdaitxI saw bdmurray retring sshuttle16:35
bdmurrayyeah, it looks like a timeout16:35
slyonI can take sshuttle16:35
vorlonslyon: so you'll take python3-stdlib-extensions and its other autopkgtest regression? (assimp)16:35
slyonyes16:36
vorlonthen there's a texinfo mess regressing tests on i38616:36
vorlonwho wants this?16:36
tdaitxslyon: there are some retries already on the queue for sshuttle16:36
dokovorlon: you, i386 expert?16:36
dokoE: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'.16:36
dokoW: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)16:36
dokoE: Failed to process build dependencies16:36
vorlonwaveform: you can have texinfo since no one else volunteered :)16:36
waveformvorlon, joy :))16:37
vorlonwaveform: (hit me up if you want help analyzing it)16:37
vorlonand I think we can probably stop there on the assignments; hopefully next week we'll be caught up and can get through the remaining backlog16:37
vorlon"next week", given that US is out next Thursday16:37
vorlonbdmurray: back to you16:38
bdmurray#topic AOB16:39
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bdmurraySo as Steve mentioned next Thursday is a US holiday16:39
bdmurrayI'm guessing some people are taking next Friday off too16:39
juliankI'm on +1 maintenance next Wed/Thu16:39
xnoxdatacentre move over the weekend16:39
bdmurrayanything else?16:41
xnoxboom16:42
xnoxmic drop16:42
bdmurrayokay, thanks everybody16:42
bdmurray#endmeeting16:42
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