[00:00] teward: oh??? [00:00] nhaines: admin rights? if so please share [00:00] mod isn't enough to create wiki articles :( [00:00] anything else urgent anyone wants to bring up? [00:00] all i care about is having access to the cc category [00:00] otherwise we'll close the floor [00:00] jose: maybe! I'll check tonight. [00:00] Gotta go. Bye everyone! o/ [00:00] no... [00:00] close it up [00:00] Thanks everyone for participating! See y'all in two weeks, same time! [00:00] we can go bed or continue working... [00:00] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [00:00] Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 00:00:50 2020 UTC. [00:00] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-18-23.07.moin.txt [00:01] Bye, everyone! :) [00:01] see ya [00:01] thanks for chairing Jose [00:01] bye! [00:01] jose: thanks for chairing [00:01] thanks to everyone especially nhaines and linaporras for showing up [00:01] +1 jose! [00:01] it's really great to have the full team [00:01] i really really really REALLY appreciate that [00:01] indeed it is :) [00:01] hope to be hear every 2 weeks!!!! [00:01] gold stars for all of you! [00:02] and for you, wxl [00:02] I must've gotten my time zones mixed up! [00:02] But now I'm ready for next time! [00:02] DST :) [00:04] Yup. Still not happy about the sun setting at 4:45 pm. :) [00:04] good night. :) [00:05] Good night, toddy! [00:07] sleep well! === ebarretto_ is now known as ebarretto === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [15:57] o/ [16:01] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [16:01] Meeting started Thu Nov 19 16:01:08 2020 UTC. 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[16:01] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: [16:01] o/ [16:01] #topic Lightning Round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Lightning Round [16:01] echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon) [16:01] bdmurray sil2100 mwhudson xnox vorlon juliank doko rbalint slyon tdaitx waveform [16:01] o/ [16:01] uploaded Bionic SRU for LP: #1854148 [16:01] uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1870060 [16:01] verified the above SRU [16:01] uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1848829 [16:01] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1854148 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1854148). The error has been logged [16:01] Launchpad bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Groovy) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870060 [16:01] Launchpad bug 1848829 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "distribution upgrade failed due pip install of distro-info" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848829 [16:02] wrote a test case for the above too [16:02] sponsored Bionic SRU for LP: #1611737 [16:02] investigation into gdb bug LP: #1818918 [16:02] merged libssh [16:02] Launchpad bug 1611737 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "Can't upgrade from a release if ros packages are installed from ROS servers" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611737 [16:02] Launchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818918 [16:02] wrote a better tool for removing EoL crash data from the Error Tracker [16:02] ✔ done [16:02] sil2100: [16:02] - SRU reviews and releases [16:02] - Reviews for the focal HWE update [16:02] - NEW reviews [16:02] - DMB meeting [16:02] - Reviewing DBus get/set PR from Lukas [16:02] - Some training [16:02] - Adding new kab language-pack [16:02] - 20.04.2/EOL/Archive opening retrospective [16:02] - Finalizing some archive opening tasks in a work-session [16:02] - Started drafting action items for ESM britney [16:02] - Sponsoring some u-boot backports [16:02] - Discussions [16:02] - Working on the ubuntu-image backlog [16:02] (done) [16:03] xnox: [16:03] riscv64 build & cloud-images are now available as chroots, lxd, and non-bootable .img [16:03] next livecd-rootfs upload to hirsute should make .img bootable with uboot-qemu [16:03] made u-boot-menu look nicer with Ubuntu branding [16:03] s390-tools 2.15.1 packaging work, now out. [16:03] lots of things stuck in proposed migration [16:03] done [16:04] I don't really have anything public I can think of to say right now [16:04] it's vorlon's turn actually [16:04] vorlon: ? [16:05] * working on proposed-migration: ghc transition should finish today! [16:05] * discussions around handling of the nvidia-cuda-toolkit package in the archive [16:05] sil2100: 20.04.2 retrospective? that's forward thinking [16:05] * next week: not going to be at the meeting because Thanksgiving [16:05] (done) [16:05] - started GCC 11 packaging [16:05] - investigated three different cross compiler ftbfs [16:05] - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem [16:05] - binutils & gcc updates [16:05] - various ftbfs fixes and test triggers [16:05] - +1 maintenance starting today [16:05] (done) [16:05] bdmurray: aaaaaaaa [16:05] * internal trainings [16:05] * landing glibc again to hirsute [16:05] * found more retry strings for autopkgtest infra [16:05] * reverted dash to fix LP: #1904406 [16:05] Launchpad bug 1904406 in systemd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest hangs in timedated test" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904406 [16:05] * sponsored update-notifier 3.192.36 after fixing up the packaging repo's missing files [16:05] * partner work [16:05] bdmurray: was supposed to be 20.10 retrospective! What was I thinking? [16:05] * endorsed slyon's MOTU application [16:05] * +1 maintenance [16:05] (done) [16:05] bdmurray: it's not even close! [16:05] - proposed-migration for curl, trying to fix etcd flakiness [16:05] * some test retries and etcd hinted, MP#394173 [16:05] - s390-tools Bionic SRU, bug #1865032 [16:05] * Investigating bug #1860574 & bug #1859018 => invalid/released [16:05] - Applied for MOTU & netplan.io PPU [16:05] === Netplan === [16:05] - Investigating MTU bug #1724895 => fix released [16:05] - Debugging interface rename issue via IRC, bug #1904662 [16:05] bug 1865032 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU] zipl/libc: Fix potential buffer overflow in printf" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865032 [16:06] bug 1860574 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix display of clear key size for XTS keys" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1860574 [16:06] bug 1859018 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix listing of keys on file systems reporting DT_UNKNOWN." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859018 [16:06] bug 1724895 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "MTU not applied on private ethernet interfaces" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724895 [16:06] bug 1904662 in netplan "netplan apply fails to rename network interfaces without reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904662 [16:06] - Working on OVScon talk/slides [16:06] - Discussions about NetworkManager snap & r/w plugin [16:06] - Improving NM netplan backend spec [16:06] - Improving DBus code from PR#170 [16:06] - Investigating 'link-local:' stanza => missing for NM backend [16:06] - Looking into new PR#172 [16:06] (done) [16:06] * finally got openjdk-8 to migrate from hirsute-proposed [16:06] * opened bug 1903929 about openjdk uploads (non-default-java) triggering unnecessary tests) [16:06] - digged into britney autopkgtest policy, depends, and relationships [16:06] - no clear way to prevent it from happening (that I can see) [16:06] - custom rule (similar to gcc) would work, but feels dirty and does not scale [16:06] bug 1903929 in britney "openjdk-8 uploads trigger swi-prolog, fdroidserver, and libreoffice autopkgtests unnecessarily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903929 [16:06] - unclear if ignoring alt-deps wouldn't cause unexpected problems [16:06] - kinda feels like autopkgtest policy could have for its own hook/policies [16:06] - pinged Laney about it [16:06] - not a priority, but wanted to get the discussion and inputs going [16:06] * started upstream discussion on how to get jtdiff to accept report files not necessarily named 'summary.txt' (as in the current hardcoded check) [16:06] * adding better support for lxd in jck scripts (remotes, project) [16:06] - improving resilience: too many places where it can get stuck and unresponsive [16:06] (done) [16:06] WaVeR: [16:06] oops [16:06] waveform: [16:07] * Worked on u-boot SRU (LP: #1903054) [16:07] * Worked on flash-kernel merge (LP: #1904890) [16:07] * Investigated multi-kernel setup for f-k [16:07] * Worked on bluez patch upstreaming (LP: #1903048) [16:07] * Core 20 boot meetings [16:07] (done) [16:07] Launchpad bug 1903054 in u-boot (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] Please merge u-boot 2020.10+dfsg-1 from Debian unstable" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903054 [16:07] Launchpad bug 1904890 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "Please merge flash-kernel 3.103 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904890 [16:07] Launchpad bug 1903048 in bluez (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[SRU] Bluetooth won't activate on the pi 400" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903048 [16:07] any questions on status? [16:08] #topic Release Incoming Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release Incoming Bugs [16:08] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [16:09] bug 1903849 is in progress [16:09] bug 1903849 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903849 [16:09] bug 1901043 [16:09] bug 1901043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No sound in ubiquity-dm with nomodeset" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901043 [16:10] ew [16:10] This one? [16:10] We still didn't take it? [16:10] I thought we did [16:11] No, we haven't taken it yet [16:11] Would it be good for 20.04.2? [16:12] Well, I guess we should see if it is broken in 20.04.2 first [16:12] er 20.04.1 [16:12] hm, yeah i don't think we check if it's broken in focal dailies. [16:12] it is broken in groovy [16:12] So let's take that for investigation [16:12] +1 [16:12] bug 1900668 [16:12] bug 1900668 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "MAAS PXE Boot stalls with grub 2.02 " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900668 [16:13] 2.9/candidate is said to work all the time [16:13] maas that is [16:13] is what #13 says [16:13] Given that it's being investigated let's card it. [16:13] but yeah [16:14] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html [16:14] doko is there any update on bug 1890435? [16:14] bug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890435 [16:15] Christian has added some more info [16:15] - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem [16:15] ah, great [16:16] bug 1871538 is tagged champagne but we still don't have enough [16:16] bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 [16:16] have enough something somethin [16:16] So perhaps we should untag it? [16:17] +1 [16:18] okay [16:18] +1, has been sitting too long without activity.. [16:18] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [16:18] bug 1900390 has already been carded [16:18] bug 1900390 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-update hangs from use of user $PATH (specifically 'npm which')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900390 [16:18] so that's that for bugs [16:18] #topic Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Team proposed-migration report [16:19] vorlon: [16:19] [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:20] 147 packages needing attention, 12 packages not yet considered late [16:20] yikes [16:20] there's a ton of perl-related stuff which I'll ignore for now [16:20] well [16:20] i thought i did lots of micro transitions that are now entagled with perl. [16:20] boost1.71 waiting on an autopkgtest - I'll take a look at this, might just need a requeue [16:20] dbus-python, who wants this? [16:20] do we have anybody actively looking into pushing perl doom. or are there any entanglements that we can assign and/or fix to help perl? [16:21] me [16:21] ocaml is disentangled, see #u-r [16:21] perl is promising, many retries are pending [16:21] which AIUI only lets ocaml go first [16:22] yes [16:22] but let's go through these packages in order, shall we? any volunteers for dbus-python? [16:22] waiting ... [16:22] the pending ppc64el tests are holding perl back [16:22] I'll take dbus-python [16:22] bdmurray: thanks [16:23] libcgi-pm-perl appears to be blocked for reasons unrelated to perl itself [16:23] rbalint: can you take libcgi-pm-perl? [16:23] yes [16:23] thanks [16:23] ncurses: I'll have a look [16:24] netbase: mercurial, which is pretty flaky; I'll take this one too [16:24] openssh vs sshuttle: slyon could you have a look? [16:24] yes [16:24] and maybe also pycurl, as I've done curl before.. [16:24] slyon: ok, it's yours [16:24] pygments: sil2100? [16:25] I can take pygments [16:25] python-debian: xnox? [16:25] bdmurray: vorlon: I had dbus-python and netbase on a card already [16:25] vorlon: sure o/ [16:25] vorlon: ok. [16:25] tdaitx: oh? did we assign these in a previous meeting? [16:25] yes, we did [16:25] Oh [16:25] vorlon, sylon: I had openssh last week so will finish that [16:25] waveform took it, so nvm! [16:25] bdmurray: ok! [16:25] was it a meeting I wasn't at? [16:25] :) [16:27] ok we'll keep the previous assignments [16:27] dbus-python: tdaitx [16:28] libcgi-pm-perl: rbalint [16:28] ncurses: me [16:28] netbase: tdaitx [16:28] openssh: bdmurray [16:29] pycurl: slyon [16:29] pygments: waveform [16:29] python-debian: xnox [16:30] pyyaml: sil2100? [16:30] setuptools: juliank? [16:30] o/ [16:31] vorlon: I'd rather fix the python-apt regressions [16:31] juliank: mmk [16:31] setuptools: doko? [16:31] juliank: and software-properties? [16:31] yes, although this is all unrelated [16:31] doko: Yes, python-apt regresses software-properties [16:31] it needs to work at the end or it's not useful :) [16:32] note that 0.99.4 was triggered with software-properties/0.99.4 ubuntu-drivers-common/1:0.8.6.2 pyqt5/5.15.1+dfsg-2build1 dbus-python/1.2.16-4 pycurl/7.43.0.6-4 setuptools/50.3.0-1 [16:32] gdb: bdmurray: do you want to look at this? [16:32] (blocked by an apport autopkgtest regression) [16:33] software-properties: juliank, per above [16:33] I thought I fixed that [16:33] cdebconf: my upload, I'll take it [16:34] bdmurray: then it should be easy for you to follow through :) [16:34] aw snap! [16:34] git: also my upload, I'll take it [16:34] python-apt is juliank [16:34] python3-stdlib-extensions: waveform? [16:34] sshuttle, slyon? [16:34] vorlon, ok [16:35] I saw bdmurray retring sshuttle [16:35] yeah, it looks like a timeout [16:35] I can take sshuttle [16:35] slyon: so you'll take python3-stdlib-extensions and its other autopkgtest regression? (assimp) [16:36] yes [16:36] then there's a texinfo mess regressing tests on i386 [16:36] who wants this? [16:36] slyon: there are some retries already on the queue for sshuttle [16:36] vorlon: you, i386 expert? [16:36] E: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. [16:36] W: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [16:36] E: Failed to process build dependencies [16:36] waveform: you can have texinfo since no one else volunteered :) [16:37] vorlon, joy :)) [16:37] waveform: (hit me up if you want help analyzing it) [16:37] and I think we can probably stop there on the assignments; hopefully next week we'll be caught up and can get through the remaining backlog [16:37] "next week", given that US is out next Thursday [16:38] bdmurray: back to you [16:39] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: AOB [16:39] So as Steve mentioned next Thursday is a US holiday [16:39] I'm guessing some people are taking next Friday off too [16:39] I'm on +1 maintenance next Wed/Thu [16:39] datacentre move over the weekend [16:41] anything else? [16:42] boom [16:42] mic drop [16:42] okay, thanks everybody [16:42] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [16:42] Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 16:42:40 2020 UTC. [16:42] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-19-16.01.moin.txt [16:42] o/