[00:00] <wxl> teward: oh???
[00:00] <jose> nhaines: admin rights? if so please share
[00:00] <jose> mod isn't enough to create wiki articles :(
[00:00] <jose> anything else urgent anyone wants to bring up?
[00:00] <wxl> all i care about is having access to the cc category
[00:00] <jose> otherwise we'll close the floor
[00:00] <nhaines> jose: maybe! I'll check tonight.
[00:00] <Eickmeyer> Gotta go. Bye everyone! o/
[00:00] <linaporras> no...
[00:00] <wxl> close it up
[00:00] <jose> Thanks everyone for participating! See y'all in two weeks, same time!
[00:00] <linaporras> we can go bed or continue working...
[00:00] <jose> #endmeeting
[00:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 00:00:50 2020 UTC.
[00:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-18-23.07.moin.txt
[00:01] <nhaines> Bye, everyone! :)
[00:01] <teward> see ya
[00:01] <teward> thanks for chairing Jose
[00:01] <linaporras> bye!
[00:01] <toddy> jose: thanks for chairing
[00:01] <wxl> thanks to everyone especially nhaines and linaporras for showing up
[00:01] <linaporras> +1 jose!
[00:01] <wxl> it's really great to have the full team
[00:01] <wxl> i really really really REALLY appreciate that
[00:01] <jose> indeed it is :)
[00:01] <linaporras>  hope to be hear every 2 weeks!!!!
[00:01] <wxl> gold stars for all of you!
[00:02] <toddy> and for you, wxl
[00:02] <nhaines> I must've gotten my time zones mixed up!
[00:02] <nhaines> But now I'm ready for next time!
[00:02] <jose> DST :)
[00:04] <nhaines> Yup. Still not happy about the sun setting at 4:45 pm. :)
[00:04] <toddy> good night. :)
[00:05] <nhaines> Good night, toddy!
[00:07] <jose> sleep well!
[15:57] <bdmurray> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 19 16:01:08 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:01] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[16:01] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
[16:01] <bdmurray> bdmurray sil2100 mwhudson xnox vorlon juliank doko rbalint slyon tdaitx waveform
[16:01] <rbalint> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> uploaded Bionic SRU for LP: #1854148
[16:01] <bdmurray> uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1870060
[16:01] <bdmurray> verified the above SRU
[16:01] <bdmurray> uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1848829
[16:02] <bdmurray> wrote a test case for the above too
[16:02] <bdmurray> sponsored Bionic SRU for LP: #1611737
[16:02] <bdmurray> investigation into gdb bug LP: #1818918
[16:02] <bdmurray> merged libssh
[16:02] <bdmurray> wrote a better tool for removing EoL crash data from the Error Tracker
[16:02] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:02] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[16:02] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[16:02] <sil2100> - Reviews for the focal HWE update
[16:02] <sil2100> - NEW reviews
[16:02] <sil2100> - DMB meeting
[16:02] <sil2100> - Reviewing DBus get/set PR from Lukas
[16:02] <sil2100> - Some training
[16:02] <sil2100> - Adding new kab language-pack
[16:02] <sil2100> - 20.04.2/EOL/Archive opening retrospective
[16:02] <sil2100> - Finalizing some archive opening tasks in a work-session
[16:02] <sil2100> - Started drafting action items for ESM britney
[16:02] <sil2100> - Sponsoring some u-boot backports
[16:02] <sil2100> - Discussions
[16:02] <sil2100> - Working on the ubuntu-image backlog
[16:02] <sil2100> (done)
[16:03] <bdmurray> xnox:
[16:03] <xnox> riscv64 build & cloud-images are now available as chroots, lxd, and non-bootable .img
[16:03] <xnox> next livecd-rootfs upload to hirsute should make .img bootable with uboot-qemu
[16:03] <xnox> made u-boot-menu look nicer with Ubuntu branding
[16:03] <xnox> s390-tools 2.15.1 packaging work, now out.
[16:03] <xnox> lots of things stuck in proposed migration
[16:03] <xnox> done
[16:04] <juliank> I don't really have anything public I can think of to say right now
[16:04] <juliank> it's vorlon's turn actually
[16:04] <bdmurray> vorlon: ?
[16:05] <vorlon>  * working on proposed-migration: ghc transition should finish today!
[16:05] <vorlon>  * discussions around handling of the nvidia-cuda-toolkit package in the archive
[16:05] <bdmurray> sil2100: 20.04.2 retrospective? that's forward thinking
[16:05] <vorlon>  * next week: not going to be at the meeting because Thanksgiving
[16:05] <vorlon> (done)
[16:05] <doko> - started GCC 11 packaging
[16:05] <doko> - investigated three different cross compiler ftbfs
[16:05] <doko> - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem
[16:05] <doko> - binutils & gcc updates
[16:05] <doko> - various ftbfs fixes and test triggers
[16:05] <doko> - +1 maintenance starting today
[16:05] <doko> (done)
[16:05] <sil2100> bdmurray: aaaaaaaa
[16:05] <rbalint> * internal trainings
[16:05] <rbalint> * landing glibc again to hirsute
[16:05] <rbalint> * found more retry strings for autopkgtest infra
[16:05] <rbalint> * reverted dash to fix LP: #1904406
[16:05] <rbalint> * sponsored update-notifier 3.192.36 after fixing up the packaging repo's missing files
[16:05] <rbalint> * partner work
[16:05] <sil2100> bdmurray: was supposed to be 20.10 retrospective! What was I thinking?
[16:05] <rbalint> * endorsed slyon's MOTU application
[16:05] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
[16:05] <rbalint> (done)
[16:05] <sil2100> bdmurray: it's not even close!
[16:05] <slyon> - proposed-migration for curl, trying to fix etcd flakiness
[16:05] <slyon>   * some test retries and etcd hinted, MP#394173
[16:05] <slyon> - s390-tools Bionic SRU, bug #1865032
[16:05] <slyon>   * Investigating bug #1860574 & bug #1859018 => invalid/released
[16:05] <slyon> - Applied for MOTU & netplan.io PPU
[16:05] <slyon> [16:05] <slyon> - Investigating MTU bug #1724895 => fix released
[16:05] <slyon> - Debugging interface rename issue via IRC, bug #1904662
[16:06] <slyon> - Working on OVScon talk/slides
[16:06] <slyon> - Discussions about NetworkManager snap & r/w plugin
[16:06] <slyon> - Improving NM netplan backend spec
[16:06] <slyon> - Improving DBus code from PR#170
[16:06] <slyon> - Investigating 'link-local:' stanza => missing for NM backend
[16:06] <slyon> - Looking into new PR#172
[16:06] <slyon> (done)
[16:06] <tdaitx> * finally got openjdk-8 to migrate from hirsute-proposed
[16:06] <tdaitx> * opened bug 1903929 about openjdk uploads (non-default-java) triggering unnecessary tests)
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - digged into britney autopkgtest policy, depends, and relationships
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - no clear way to prevent it from happening (that I can see)
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - custom rule (similar to gcc) would work, but feels dirty and does not scale
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - unclear if ignoring alt-deps wouldn't cause unexpected problems
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - kinda feels like autopkgtest policy could have for its own hook/policies
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - pinged Laney about it
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - not a priority, but wanted to get the discussion and inputs going
[16:06] <tdaitx> * started upstream discussion on how to get jtdiff to accept report files not necessarily named 'summary.txt' (as in the current hardcoded check)
[16:06] <tdaitx> * adding better support for lxd in jck scripts (remotes, project)
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - improving resilience: too many places where it can get stuck and unresponsive
[16:06] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:06] <bdmurray> WaVeR:
[16:06] <bdmurray> oops
[16:06] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:07] <waveform> * Worked on u-boot SRU (LP: #1903054)
[16:07] <waveform> * Worked on flash-kernel merge (LP: #1904890)
[16:07] <waveform> * Investigated multi-kernel setup for f-k
[16:07] <waveform> * Worked on bluez patch upstreaming (LP: #1903048)
[16:07] <waveform> * Core 20 boot meetings
[16:07] <waveform> (done)
[16:07] <bdmurray> any questions on status?
[16:08] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[16:08] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:09] <bdmurray> bug 1903849 is in progress
[16:09] <bdmurray> bug 1901043
[16:10] <xnox> ew
[16:10] <sil2100> This one?
[16:10] <sil2100> We still didn't take it?
[16:10] <sil2100> I thought we did
[16:11] <bdmurray> No, we haven't taken it yet
[16:11] <bdmurray> Would it be good for 20.04.2?
[16:12] <bdmurray> Well, I guess we should see if it is broken in 20.04.2 first
[16:12] <bdmurray> er 20.04.1
[16:12] <xnox> hm, yeah i don't think we check if it's broken in focal dailies.
[16:12] <xnox> it is broken in groovy
[16:12] <bdmurray> So let's take that for investigation
[16:12] <sil2100> +1
[16:12] <bdmurray> bug 1900668
[16:13] <juliank> 2.9/candidate is said to work all the time
[16:13] <juliank> maas that is
[16:13] <juliank> is what #13 says
[16:13] <bdmurray> Given that it's being investigated let's card it.
[16:13] <juliank> but yeah
[16:14] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:14] <bdmurray> doko is there any update on bug 1890435?
[16:15] <bdmurray> Christian has added some more info
 - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem
[16:15] <bdmurray> ah, great
[16:16] <bdmurray> bug 1871538 is tagged champagne but we still don't have enough
[16:16] <bdmurray> have enough something somethin
[16:16] <bdmurray> So perhaps we should untag it?
[16:17] <rbalint> +1
[16:18] <bdmurray> okay
[16:18] <slyon> +1, has been sitting too long without activity..
[16:18] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:18] <bdmurray> bug 1900390 has already been carded
[16:18] <bdmurray> so that's that for bugs
[16:18] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:19] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[16:19] <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:20] <juliank> 147 packages needing attention, 12 packages not yet considered late
[16:20] <juliank> yikes
[16:20] <vorlon> there's a ton of perl-related stuff which I'll ignore for now
[16:20] <xnox> well
[16:20] <xnox> i thought i did lots of micro transitions that are now entagled with perl.
[16:20] <vorlon> boost1.71 waiting on an autopkgtest - I'll take a look at this, might just need a requeue
[16:20] <vorlon> dbus-python, who wants this?
[16:20] <xnox> do we have anybody actively looking into pushing perl doom. or are there any entanglements that we can assign and/or fix to help perl?
[16:21] <rbalint> me
[16:21] <doko> ocaml is disentangled, see #u-r
[16:21] <rbalint> perl is promising, many retries are pending
[16:21] <vorlon> which AIUI only lets ocaml go first
[16:22] <doko> yes
[16:22] <vorlon> but let's go through these packages in order, shall we?  any volunteers for dbus-python?
[16:22] <doko> waiting ...
[16:22] <rbalint> the pending ppc64el tests are holding perl back
[16:22] <bdmurray> I'll take dbus-python
[16:22] <vorlon> bdmurray: thanks
[16:23] <vorlon> libcgi-pm-perl appears to be blocked for reasons unrelated to perl itself
[16:23] <vorlon> rbalint: can you take libcgi-pm-perl?
[16:23] <rbalint> yes
[16:23] <vorlon> thanks
[16:23] <vorlon> ncurses: I'll have a look
[16:24] <vorlon> netbase: mercurial, which is pretty flaky; I'll take this one too
[16:24] <vorlon> openssh vs sshuttle: slyon could you have a look?
[16:24] <slyon> yes
[16:24] <slyon> and maybe also pycurl, as I've done curl before..
[16:24] <vorlon> slyon: ok, it's yours
[16:24] <vorlon> pygments: sil2100?
[16:25] <waveform> I can take pygments
[16:25] <vorlon> python-debian: xnox?
[16:25] <tdaitx> bdmurray: vorlon: I had dbus-python and netbase on a card already
[16:25] <sil2100> vorlon: sure o/
[16:25] <xnox> vorlon:  ok.
[16:25] <vorlon> tdaitx: oh? did we assign these in a previous meeting?
[16:25] <tdaitx> yes, we did
[16:25] <sil2100> Oh
[16:25] <bdmurray> vorlon, sylon: I had openssh last week so will finish that
[16:25] <sil2100> waveform took it, so nvm!
[16:25] <slyon> bdmurray: ok!
[16:25] <vorlon> was it a meeting I wasn't at?
[16:25] <vorlon> :)
[16:27] <vorlon> ok we'll keep the previous assignments
[16:27] <vorlon> dbus-python: tdaitx
[16:28] <vorlon> libcgi-pm-perl: rbalint
[16:28] <vorlon> ncurses: me
[16:28] <vorlon> netbase: tdaitx
[16:28] <vorlon> openssh: bdmurray
[16:29] <vorlon> pycurl: slyon
[16:29] <vorlon> pygments: waveform
[16:29] <vorlon> python-debian: xnox
[16:30] <vorlon> pyyaml: sil2100?
[16:30] <vorlon> setuptools: juliank?
[16:30] <sil2100> o/
[16:31] <juliank> vorlon: I'd rather fix the python-apt regressions
[16:31] <vorlon> juliank: mmk
[16:31] <vorlon> setuptools: doko?
[16:31] <doko> juliank: and software-properties?
[16:31] <doko> yes, although this is all unrelated
[16:31] <juliank> doko: Yes, python-apt regresses software-properties
[16:31] <juliank> it needs to work at the end or it's not useful :)
[16:32] <juliank> note that 0.99.4 was triggered with software-properties/0.99.4 ubuntu-drivers-common/1:0.8.6.2 pyqt5/5.15.1+dfsg-2build1 dbus-python/1.2.16-4 pycurl/7.43.0.6-4 setuptools/50.3.0-1
[16:32] <vorlon> gdb: bdmurray: do you want to look at this?
[16:32] <vorlon> (blocked by an apport autopkgtest regression)
[16:33] <vorlon> software-properties: juliank, per above
[16:33] <bdmurray> I thought I fixed that
[16:33] <vorlon> cdebconf: my upload, I'll take it
[16:34] <vorlon> bdmurray: then it should be easy for you to follow through :)
[16:34] <bdmurray> aw snap!
[16:34] <vorlon> git: also my upload, I'll take it
[16:34] <vorlon> python-apt is juliank
[16:34] <vorlon> python3-stdlib-extensions: waveform?
[16:34] <doko> sshuttle, slyon?
[16:34] <waveform> vorlon, ok
[16:35] <tdaitx> I saw bdmurray retring sshuttle
[16:35] <bdmurray> yeah, it looks like a timeout
[16:35] <slyon> I can take sshuttle
[16:35] <vorlon> slyon: so you'll take python3-stdlib-extensions and its other autopkgtest regression? (assimp)
[16:36] <slyon> yes
[16:36] <vorlon> then there's a texinfo mess regressing tests on i386
[16:36] <vorlon> who wants this?
[16:36] <tdaitx> slyon: there are some retries already on the queue for sshuttle
[16:36] <doko> vorlon: you, i386 expert?
[16:36] <doko> E: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'.
[16:36] <doko> W: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:36] <doko> E: Failed to process build dependencies
[16:36] <vorlon> waveform: you can have texinfo since no one else volunteered :)
[16:37] <waveform> vorlon, joy :))
[16:37] <vorlon> waveform: (hit me up if you want help analyzing it)
[16:37] <vorlon> and I think we can probably stop there on the assignments; hopefully next week we'll be caught up and can get through the remaining backlog
[16:37] <vorlon> "next week", given that US is out next Thursday
[16:38] <vorlon> bdmurray: back to you
[16:39] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[16:39] <bdmurray> So as Steve mentioned next Thursday is a US holiday
[16:39] <bdmurray> I'm guessing some people are taking next Friday off too
[16:39] <juliank> I'm on +1 maintenance next Wed/Thu
[16:39] <xnox> datacentre move over the weekend
[16:41] <bdmurray> anything else?
[16:42] <xnox> boom
[16:42] <xnox> mic drop
[16:42] <bdmurray> okay, thanks everybody
[16:42] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[16:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 16:42:40 2020 UTC.
[16:42] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-19-16.01.moin.txt
[16:42] <rbalint> o/