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[08:48] <technoob> Hey guys
[08:48] <technoob> I have a question
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> welcome technoob
[08:49] <technoob> How do i activate wifi on my nuc
[08:49] <technoob> Its running an ubuntu server
[08:49] <technoob> My nuc is nuc5cpyh
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> technoob: did you firmware update your nuc to latest?
[08:51] <technoob> Yes
[08:51] <technoob> Is it through mb?
[08:51] <technoob> Motherboard?
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> technoob: wifi can be controlled in your bios
[08:51] <technoob> So ubuntu server isnt involved in wifi?
[08:53] <technoob> Hmm
[08:53] <technoob> So i dont need to configure ubuntu server or install any driver on it?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> technoob: sudo lshw -C network, lets have a look
[08:55] <technoob> I see
[08:55] <technoob> I need to come back for that
[08:55] <technoob> Im at work
[09:01] <technoob> Can i ask what i should be looking out for
[09:02] <technoob> lotuspsychje
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> technoob: the chipset and the driver loaded; driver=...
[11:24] <RoyK> I have a machine (vm in the cloud) running ubuntu 20.04 and used by a set of users mostly for irc traffic (like I am now), so nothing fancy. I just wonder why it's nine loop devices mounted for snaps. I can't find anything running as a snap, really
[11:29] <quadrathoch2> RoyK oO the default install should have 3 (core18, snapd, lxd) so look into what you have installed maybe
[11:39] <ogra> by default snaps keep three revisions on disk (for auto-rollback and such), you can limit that to two via "sudo snap set system refresh.retain=2" (can'T be less than two though)
[11:58] <Ussat> Or, you can 100% remove snaps as I do, I wont roll out any snaps on servers.
[11:59] <Ussat> I will not let some random somewhere decide when to upgrade/restart anything on my servers
[11:59] <Ussat> I still think snaps on servers are a VERY bad idea
[11:59] <Ussat> workstations, IDGAF about..
[12:01] <quadrathoch2> idk the only snap I use is livepatch, so I do need snapd installed :/ but yeah outside of that, nope
[12:02] <Ussat> Ya, I dont use livepatch either
[12:03] <Ussat> All my systems have scheduled maint windows for patching/reboot
[12:04] <quadrathoch2> I do too, but just as a safeguard, for whatever security issue there may be (outside of the window)
[12:27]  * ogra uses *only* snapped services on his servers since it massively uppens security, allows roll-back to former versions if i.e. an update doesnt get along with older config data or has features i dont want brongs true delta upgrades along, has builtin backups and tond of more advantages ... 
[12:29] <ogra> and if you dont update a server withn 60 days after a security update (which is the update frequency you can pick for snaps) thats rather irresponsible towards everyone else on the internet IMHO
[12:30] <quadrathoch2> ogra sadly most snaps I was looking back then into, were the classic installs, so no added security :/
[12:31] <ogra> uh, yeah, classic snaps are rather a wart ... sadly ...
[12:31] <ogra> (they have their use for i.e. IDEs and compilers though but surely not fo any serious server software)
[12:32] <ogra> the amont is going down though with more and more interfaces beng added to snapd to allow audited access to system resources
[12:32] <quadrathoch2> yeah, I am still going to look in a bit again at snaps (not totally off, as the internet) but yeah, as long as most stuff is in --classic idc
[12:32] <ogra> so classic gety more rare lately
[12:32] <ogra> particulary in the server area classic is rather rare nowadays
[12:32] <quadrathoch2> nice good to know :)
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