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BoffeyAll updated.  Now, I'm off to bed - it's after midnight. gn all.00:25
conrweird question, does anybody have trouble with asian languages while vnc'ing into a ubuntu desktop 20.04?01:05
conrtyping01:06
quadrathoch2conr typing or displaying?01:13
conrtyping, it wont build the characters on each other01:13
conrit will work directly on desktop01:14
quadrathoch2conr sorry, can't help you with that :/01:16
conrno prob. it was a long shot.01:21
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Maikconr: i had a similar problem with Barrier but solved it by choosing the same keyboardlayout during the re-install of Ubuntu on one of my machines. Just changing the layout on a installed system didn't work properly and i still can't figure out why.01:32
conrre-install the OS or just the language input?01:32
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Maiki re-installed the os. As i said, just changing the layout/input didn't work, at least not properly, a lot of characters just didn't seem to work.01:35
TJ-do we have a channel that deals with microk8s ?02:06
jefferoonieHello..  I am running xubuntu 20.10..  I noticed after an update Ubuntu Software went away and the only thing available is "Snap Store".... Does that seem correct?02:12
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Epexo1999Hello02:21
Epexo1999Idle rarely chatting i guess lol02:23
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Apachezis it just me or does https://help.ubuntu.com/ timeout right now?03:08
lotuspsychjeits just you03:08
quadrathoch2yup lotuspsychje03:09
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alazySystem won't boot, trying to rescue. First problem is I can't read most output because of 640x480 resolution. All instructions I find online require editing files and rebooting - is it possible within rescue mode?03:37
quadrathoch2possible what alazy?03:39
alazyincrease the resolution03:40
alazyquadrathoch2: vbeinfo seems to list available resolutions, but how do I apply one of them while in grub rescue?03:41
alazynever mind. Rebooted and I got 1920x1080 resolution in grub. Dunno what went wrong. Still having to manually adjust grub by setting bios-hint = fd1 instead of hd103:47
nerdthatnoonelikhi03:58
john_ramboI just downloaded Google Chrome (.deb) & installed it by doing #sudo dpkg -i filename.deb .... Will this automatically add an entry for Google Chrome in sources.list?04:27
quadrathoch2john_rambo yes04:29
john_ramboquadrathoch2, Thanks04:29
quadrathoch2you should be able to find the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/04:29
samantha-is there a way to install deluge 1.3x on 20.10?05:30
Bashing-om!info deluge groovy | samantha-05:40
ubottusamantha-: deluge (source: deluge): bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-3 (groovy), package size 16 kB, installed size 70 kB05:40
samantha-yes. i'd like an old version.05:41
samantha-i'm trying to connect to a deluged on a debian box, and it's a 1.3.x installation. you can not mix and match a 1.3/2.0 daemon/client combination.05:42
Bashing-omsamantha-: 'apt depends deluge' >> python3 - looks to be a system breaker to mess about with.05:44
samantha-ugh. debian testing doesn't have it, and i'm not putting sid on a public armhf box.05:45
TJ-samantha-: maybe find an older release that has the deluge version you need, and create an LXD container with that release and use deluge (client) within it?05:50
TJ-samantha-: e.g "lxc launch ubuntu:18.04 my_deluge1.3; lxc exec my_deluge1.3 deluge"05:51
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raecarruthhello09:47
lotuspsychjewelcome raecarruth09:49
raecarruthdoes anyone here use lltag?09:49
lotuspsychjeraecarruth: ask your question to the channel please, so volunteers can think a long with you for a solution09:51
raecarruthi need a working cddb_server_name09:51
raecarruthfreedb.org was shut down09:52
raecarruthand musicbrainz doesn't appear to work09:52
raecarruthfor grabbing tags09:52
tatertotswow..that's a blast from the past throw back09:52
raecarruthindeed but it's worked so well for me09:52
raecarruthwhy change now :)09:53
raecarruthalso, puddletag crashed when i tried to write the tags09:55
raecarruthand i don't trust easytag09:56
KokpitHello people, I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS bionic and I want to see my DNS forward servers how should I find that? no BIND or any other DNS tools were installed (just as it comes from the box)10:46
Kokpitout of the box*10:46
xtaoresolvectl status10:49
Kokpitubuntu-user001@APC:~$ resolvectl status11:11
Kokpitresolvectl: command not foun11:11
MaikKokpit: sudo?11:13
KokpitMaik, not working... command not found11:13
xtaooh. maybe that's a thing from 20.04 then11:13
xtaocat /etc/resolv.conf ?11:14
KokpitI have that11:14
Kokpitthe cat /etc/resolv.conf11:14
xtaodoes it show your DNS servers in it? or one that says 127.0.0.5311:15
Kokpitone that says 127.0.0.5311:15
Kokpita one*11:15
xtaook. that's systemd-resolved then. which on 20.04 has a resolvectl command to show the status. not sure how you see in 18.04 then. hrm11:16
Kokpitxtao, thanks mate.. any others?11:19
TJ-Kokpit: systemd-resolve --status" I think11:21
KokpitTJ-, oh works for me...11:24
KokpitTJ-, so the"DNS SERVERS:" are the DNS forwarding servers?11:25
TJ-Kokpit: yeah, I checked in a container to be sure after suggesting it... couldn't recall when it siwtched from that to resolvectl11:25
KokpitTJ-, I can't find a forward related word11:25
TJ-Kokpit: it could be per-link or it might be global11:25
TJ-Kokpit: I assume you want to know which upstream resolvers systemd-resolved is using?11:26
TJ-Kokpit: you'll likely need to check the link in use to see, it'll show all the alternates, and the currently used11:27
KokpitI assume you want to know which upstream resolvers systemd-resolved is using?: yes11:28
Kokpitwhich link mate?11:28
xtaoit lists each network interface like wifi, ethernet ports, or VPNs. just find whichever one you're connected by and it should list the DNS servers in that section, or it'll be under the global section if it applies to all interfaces11:31
motzhi, I have huge problems with dns. I always get the nxdomain thing. I'd like to purge the whole dns-server and reinstall it again. COuld someone help me?12:02
TJ-motz: you'd better give more details. what release/flavour is it? desktop or server? anything special in DNS settings/config you're doing?12:17
motzTJ: 18.04 LTS12:18
motzTJ-, 18.04 LTS12:18
motzTJ-, 18.04 LTS, desktop, I have expressvpn12:19
TJ-motz: I have no idea what expressvpn is, but assuming it is some external VPN provider, and you've added some config for it, I'd strongly suggest investigating that first12:20
motzTJ-, I'm not able to investigate. I just want to purge everything about dns and reinstall12:20
TJ-motz: you don't "purge everything about dns" ! -- you fix the thing that is creating a bad configuration. check what the current configuration is with "resolvectl status" and for each link check if and what DNS servers are set.12:22
TJ-motz: config is done per-interface as they are brought up and taken down12:23
tomreynthere's no resolvectl on 18.04, but there is    systemd-resolve --status12:24
TJ-aha I just said that earlier; misread as 20.04 :)12:25
TJ-too busy on my own work12:25
tomreyn:) don't get side tracked too much.12:26
TJ-motz: sorry, as tomreyn  said, "systemd-resolve --status" on 18.0412:26
TJ-tomreyn: pfft - trying to install a pure IPv6 only k8s across aarch64 and amd64 cluster12:26
tomreynuh. "have fun?"12:27
* TJ- nods12:27
MrCollinsoh man12:28
MrCollinsI dont envy your work TJ-12:29
HamidrezaHi guys, I would appreciate if you could help me: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-iscsi/issues/22412:34
MrCollinsbrb testing irc script.12:38
tomreynHamidreza: personally, i won't be able to help for lack of ceph-iscsi experience. but i can provide a suggestion, to make it mor elikely for you to get support: make it as easy as possible for those you're hoping to assist you to review the problem. these logs are unreadable in the current formatting.12:43
Hamidrezatomreyn, Thanks for your point12:45
motzTJ-, tomreyn TJ-, this is interesting: the output of the systemd-resolve --status in wireless mode is slightely different from the other one: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/yWN3XkHqCT/12:46
TJ-motz: as I thought; expressvon appears to have set a global DNS server 10.139.0.112:48
TJ-motz: give us an example of a hostname that returns NXDOMAIN12:48
OnkelBladeHi all. On Kbuntu 20.04 there is not python, only python312:55
OnkelBladeHow can I get it automatically? I don't want to play with alternatives12:55
OnkelBladeLet it point to python3 - I don't care really12:55
OnkelBladethere is no*12:56
EriC^^OnkelBlade: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python12:57
OnkelBladehehe12:57
OnkelBladethat's a hack!12:57
EriC^^you said, "let it point to python3, idc"12:57
EriC^^OnkelBlade: try sudo apt-get install python i guess, something is wrong if you dont have /usr/bin/python, for sure they didnt remove it12:58
EriC^^probably on the newer systems with just python3 there's some symlink pointing to python312:58
EriC^^OnkelBlade: try "dpkg -S /usr/bin/python"12:59
OnkelBladeEriC^^: lol, it turns out there is a package for it, just like I wanted. Guess its name!13:00
OnkelBladesudo apt-get install python-is-python313:00
EriC^^!info python-is-python313:00
ubottupython-is-python3 (source: what-is-python (4)): symlinks /usr/bin/python to python3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.2-4 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB13:00
OnkelBladeYeah, exactly. I love it13:00
EriC^^OnkelBlade: great13:01
EriC^^still cant believe they dont have /usr/bin/python by default, it would break so many stuff xD13:01
EriC^^anyways good find13:01
motzTJ- almost every hostname except for google, youtube and facebook13:18
motzTJ-, for example repubblica.it13:18
motzTJ-, almost every hostname except for google, youtube and facebook13:19
TJ-motz: OK, now try that directly against the expressvpn DNS server, with "dig repubblica.it @10.139.0.1" --- in theory that'll report the same result, which indicates it is the cause. THEN, try it with one of the other link-specific  DNS servers: e.g: "dig republica.it @2a02:2457:20c:101::126"13:22
motzTJ-, I'm wired connected now. Is it ok?13:23
BluesKajHi all13:33
aldcorhi! I installed rofi. Added shortcut key to mate. Command looks like this rofi -dmenu but there are no programs listed whatever I type.13:37
tomreynaldcor: there's #ubuntu-mate for mate specific questions, in case you can't get answers here.13:39
aldcorok thanks tomreyn13:42
motzTJ-, sorry , I was away13:45
motzTJ-, you were saying?13:46
motzTJ-, I'm wired connected now. Is it ok?13:46
motzTJ-, dig repubblica.it @10.139.0.1 -  - ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.13-Ubuntu <<>> repubblica.it @10.139.0.1 - ;; global options: +cmd - ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached13:46
motzTJ-, dig republica.it @2a02:2457:20c:101::126 -  - ; <<>> DiG 9.11.3-1ubuntu1.13-Ubuntu <<>> republica.it @2a02:2457:20c:101::126 - ;; global options: +cmd - ;; Got answer: - ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8482 - ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 -  - ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: - ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 - ;; QUESTION SECTION: - ;republica.it.INA -  - ;; ANSWER SECTION:13:48
motz- republica.it.14400INA37.9.228.228 -  - ;; Query time: 211 msec - ;; SERVER: 2a02:2457:20c:101::126#53(2a02:2457:20c:101::126) - ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 22 14:47:35 CET 2020 - ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 5713:48
motzTJ-, what does this mean? It works with ipv6 but not with ipv413:48
MonkeyDust!paste | motz13:48
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motzok13:48
motzTJ-, what's the solution then?13:51
aldcorinteresting. When I used recommended nvidia driver my laptop was much louder. When I used noveau it's silent or `normal` sounding.13:52
motzTJ-, are you still there?13:56
Maikmotz: appearantly not at the moment13:57
motzTJ-, sorry, I disconncted14:01
motzTJ-, you were saying?14:01
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: o/14:36
MonkeyDusthi lotuspsychje \o14:40
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SimplarWhen recording Ubuntu *.iso on a flash drive, which cluster size should I choose?15:09
compdocyoure trying to create a bootable flash drive?15:12
Simplarcompdoc: yes15:13
SimplarI want to be aware of the best cluster size15:13
compdocIve never seen that option15:13
EriC^^Simplar: how are you creating it and what os?15:13
compdochow are you writing the iso to the drive?15:13
SimplarThrough Rufus, Windows 10 x6415:13
compdocI use imageUSB from passmark. works great15:14
Maikhttps://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview15:14
EriC^^i dont think it really matters much, what will you be using the live usb for? just to install?15:14
SimplarJust to install. But the larger cluster size would allow for less read-write operations and prolong life of flash drive15:15
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jayjoI've been researching for a few weeks into how to make an ubuntu installer with custom packages available, with a completely offline installation. Does anyone have experience with this? Would I be better served customizing the iso (with schroot, etc) or to keep a repository with my necessary deb's on a usb stick?15:21
Fractalisis there an argument for flatpaks being better than package installations for apps?15:27
TJ-Simplar: there is no such thing as 'cluster size' in that respect. Cluster's are an abstraction of FAT file systems. Writing ISO9660 hybrid bootable images is just a case of copying from start of file to end15:27
TJ-jayjo: latter would be quicker and easier if it is build as a real debian archive layout, since you'd only have to add an entry to the installer's apt sources.list to use it15:28
lotuspsychjeFractalis: come join #ubuntu-discuss for that15:29
Fractalislotuspsychje: sure, thank you for the reply15:30
thelounge40I can't connect my Xbox controller by bluetooth on 20.10. Have I install some particular driver?15:34
MrCollinsthelounge40, I would suggest posting any error messages you get? Try to find where the log entries are for the joystick or controller15:35
MrCollinsI am not an expert but I have been in here enough to know I think that is where you would start.15:35
jayjoTJ-: could that location on a usb stick partition then be referenced from a d-i preseed or the new cloud-init config files?15:41
TJ-jayjo: not sure about cloud-config but certainly from d-i you can add repositories15:42
MrCollinsI added a hard drive and found it by doing 'ls /dev/sd*' it is /dev/sdb15:43
thelounge40thelounge40 https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/g884xe/2004_xbox_one_controller_no_longer_works_over/ solved15:43
MrCollinsI have yet to add any partition to it etc. I want this drive to be a storage drive for several samba clients15:43
TJ-MrCollins: other ways are "ls -l /sys/block/" and "lsblk"15:44
MrCollinsshould I make this part of a volume group or as a physical volume?15:44
MrCollinsTJ-,  ok15:44
MrCollinsthank you15:45
MrCollinsthelounge40, did that page fix you?15:45
TJ-MrCollins: for LVM, if you want it as part of an existing volume group, you'd first do "pvcreate /dev/sdX" then "vgextend MY_VG /dev/sdX"15:45
TJ-MrCollins: if you want a new VG, then "vgcreate MY_NEW_VG /dev/sdX"15:46
MrCollinsTJ-, which would be a better choice in your opinion if several samba (win64) clients are going to connect and have their own shares?15:47
MrCollinsto this particular drive*15:47
MrCollinsthank you for your help.15:47
jayjois there a way to get the official iso installers from the archive? Or do you need to reference releases.ubuntu.com or ubuntu.com/download? I keep landing on "try the new installer pages": http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/15:47
TJ-MrCollins: it depends how isolated you want it - if you want the new device to be the only device where they store data then create a new VG for it15:49
MrCollinsVG got it. Thank you. Yes I want it isolated.15:50
TJ-MrCollins: otherwise, when you create LVs in a VG that is spread across several drives, you've got to specify to lvcreate which PV to place the LV on15:50
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MrCollinsthank you.15:50
thelounge40thelounge40 yes I've solved the problem.15:52
MrCollinsawesome. Sorry I wasnt much help.15:52
thelounge40editing sysfs.cond and disabling ertm from bluetooth module.15:53
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KOLANICHHi everybody16:02
KOLANICHIs lac of support of https for official apt repos of Ubuntu should be considered to be a backdoor?16:03
KOLANICH*lack16:03
MrCollinsIs Cockpit a useful utility? Does anyone in here use it and find it helpful?16:04
lotuspsychje!discuss | MrCollins16:04
ubottuMrCollins: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!16:04
MrCollinsIll ask this in ubuntu discuss16:04
MrCollinsthank you sorry16:04
quadrathoch2KOLANICH nope16:08
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: why nope, there already we vulnrs in apt, which could have been mitigated by using TLS for a repo16:09
jayjowhat's the difference between the archives and the releases.ubuntu.com and ubunt.com/download pages?16:10
quadrathoch2KOLANICH if you really want to, why not switch to a mirror which supports https?16:11
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: security.ubuntu.com has no TLS, neither does ppa.launchpad.net16:12
quadrathoch2idk about launchpad, but as I said, just switch to a mirror with tls support (http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt a list for example)16:13
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: I have already (in 2015 in fact) switched the ones that can be switched.16:14
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: but not all can be switched16:14
quadrathoch2so why is it that the security repo is not switchable?16:15
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: not only security, but also launchpad and the official repo. It looks like a corporate policy "there will be no TLSed official repos"16:16
TJ-the usual excuse from Canonical has been 'server load' and 'its complex'16:16
KOLANICHand this is very suspicious in 2020, especially after the vulnrs that could have been mitigated with tls16:17
KOLANICHTJ-: it is the usual excuse of everyone not using TLS16:17
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quadrathoch2KOLANICH i don't get you, you are telling me that there are no mirrors with tls support, but there are literally mirrors on the official mirrors list on ubuntu.com with tls16:18
TJ-KOLANICH: the argument is that due to list/package signing HTTPS isn't vital16:18
quadrathoch2plus, it's not cachable16:18
TJ-KOLANICH: we've had this argument with Canonical for years16:18
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: security. is without TLS, so are launchpad repos. mirrors.kernel.org has TLS, but it is a mirror, not a sourse, and it lags by 6 hours16:19
quadrathoch2on top of that, if people are really so infuriated with canonical why not just switch distributions?16:19
quadrathoch2nobody is forcing you to use ubuntu16:20
quadrathoch2(except jobs)16:20
KOLANICHTJ-: there were vulnrs in APT that have showed that with such a piece of ... code, as apt, they are vital16:21
quadrathoch2KOLANICH so? i mean every piece of software has security issues at some point (except hello world programs)16:22
TJ-KOLANICH: no point telling me!16:22
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KOLANICHquadrathoch2: The usual rhethorics. Don't like google spying on GMail? Don't use gmail! Don't like chinese phones spying? Don't use phones at all. Don't like UK laws? Don't live in UK! No state wants you alive on its territory after you have left UK? Just don't live! Nice position.16:26
KOLANICHquadrathoch2: defence in depth is a necessity in current world. that's why we need mitigations. All software is likely to be vulnerable, but some software is especially.16:28
quadrathoch2KOLANICH welp, it's your choice, i'm moving on16:28
chull_If I copy a directory from my old Ubuntu 18.04 drive to my new Ubuntu 20.04 drive, will it move all the subdirectories and files?16:34
quadrathoch2chull_ yes16:34
jpdsKOLANICH: How on earth could it possibly be a backdoor?16:57
jpdsGiven every single package is signed16:58
jayjosorry to ask again, can't seem to find modern installers on the archive. Are they available? I keep finding splash pages http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/17:02
quadrathoch2which modern installers? jayjo17:02
quadrathoch2i mean the live server installer is linked on the page you linked17:03
jayjoyou mean linked at https://ubuntu.com/download/server?17:03
jayjoso not available on the archive?17:03
quadrathoch2it is, you need to choose option 317:03
jayjothat link (option 3) seems to direct to https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04.1/ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso17:05
KOLANICHjpds: Please, read the discussion. there was a vulnr in apt allowing to install any package of mitmer choice. it could have been mitigated with TLS. Knowing the quality of code of apt, and quality of its arcuitecture, it is obvious that it still contains remotely exploitable vulnrs. We just don't know them. So refusal to apply mitigations may be a kinda "intelligence operation", where the persons in power to make decisions intentionally make deciâ17:07
KOLANICH…sions which profit specific parties. When such persons are government officials and the fact of being an agent is discovered, they usually get long jail terms. When such persons work in large businesses, and cooperate with "domestic" intelligence agencies, like GCHQ in order to allow them to hack anyone using the products of the company, these people usually don't get jail terms.17:07
quadrathoch2yeah, sorry, jayjo. misunderstood you17:07
jpdsKOLANICH: It doesn't matter if there would be a vulnerability in APT, everything is still signed by GPG17:08
ioriajayjo, are you looking for  the 20.04.1 legacy server installer ?17:09
KOLANICHjpds: the vulnr was that signature verification was bypassed since inband-signalling was used in apt and the remote party was able to insert the signal "the sig is ok"17:09
jpdsKOLANICH: Have a link for the source for that?17:10
KOLANICHjpds: it would take some time to search17:11
ioriajayjo, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-legacy-server/releases/20.04.1/release/17:11
jpdsKOLANICH: Anyhow, if you want APT + HTTPS - I suggest you just run your own mirror17:12
KOLANICHjpds: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2019-346217:13
KOLANICHsome also vulnrs that could have been mitigated with tls: CVE-2014-6273 CVE-2014-048717:17
jpdsKOLANICH: Not really, a malicious mirror serving the invalid content at you over TLS would have exploited the same thing17:20
jayjoioria: thanks, is cdimage.ubuntu.com the upstream for releases.ubuntu.com?17:21
KOLANICHjpds: a malicious mirror, but not any AS in the route17:22
TJ-KOLANICH: the best place to argue for HTTPS is in #ubuntu-hardened and #canonical-sysadmin17:23
KOLANICHTJ-: thank you, I will go there too, but I don't expect that they will react at my message at all. At least they are employees, and employees must do the things that their boss has ordered them to do.17:25
KOLANICHjpds: running an own mirror is not an option for the most users. And everyone knows it, including Ubuntu decision-makers. The vulnrs mentioned are also public knowledge. The lack of TLS means that security is not the goal of Ubuntu project. It is extremily strange.17:25
jpdsI suspect they'll tell you to do as I did: run your own mirror if it's that important to you17:26
jpdsKOLANICH: The Ubuntu decision makes also know that having hundreds of thousands of users on the mirrors at a time doesn't scale with TLS17:26
KOLANICHjpds: these is what mirrors are for. But security.ubuntu.com has no mirrors, and given that it is with9ut tls, it itself becomes a source of insecurity17:29
jpdsKOLANICH: security.u.c does have mirrors17:29
lotuspsychje!discuss17:30
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!17:30
jpdsKOLANICH: It's exactly the same archive as the rest of the archive17:30
lotuspsychjelets keep the channel free for ubuntu issues please17:30
lotuspsychjeor as TJ- adviced in -hardened and -sysadmin17:31
quadrathoch2jpds i stopped arguing, after he doesn't understand that there are no exceptions on what is mirrored17:33
jpdsKOLANICH: Here you go, a mirror with HTTPS: https://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu/dists/ - all the -security directories are what security.u.c has17:36
KOLANICHjpds: thanks, will look at it.17:38
KOLANICHBTW, does Ubuntu have anything like https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html17:56
KOLANICH?17:56
tomreynKOLANICH: have you tried a web search, yet?18:02
KOLANICHtomreyn: all that I have found is mirrors.ubuntu.com Though DDG is shit, and google + bing have banned me.18:03
jpdsKOLANICH: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors18:03
KOLANICHjpds: thanks, will look into it18:03
Maik"google + bing have banned me." lol, yeah right... search engines don't ban you18:06
KOLANICHjpds: thanks, that what is needed. Maik: yes, it's me who bans their JS-based malware ;)18:07
Maikalrighty then :)18:08
pavlosKOLANICH: there is a mirmon package (sudo apt install mirmon) but you need to do some configuration to get the webpage status (http://localhost/mirmon)18:14
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MonkeyDustwhy the fuzz about mirrors?18:20
shogo2040exit18:21
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jayjois cdimage.ubuntu.com considered upstream to releases.ubuntu.com? Where does that releases.ubuntu.com come from? I do see that they both have their specific Teams18:41
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tomreynjayjo: releases hosts release ISOs (and auxiliary files) for official releases for supported platforms, cdimage hosts alternative release formats and and platform targets,19:03
jayjotomreyn: so is my assumption backwards: release -> cdimage? Or are they more independent than that19:06
tomreynneihter is upstream for the other.19:07
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tomreynhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/458480/why-do-cdimage-ubuntu-com-and-releases-ubuntu-com-list-different-images19:08
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cadshey all, I'm in WSL ubuntu 20.04. I am trying to install ppa:hvr/ghc19:18
cads. I can install the ppa, but when I do apt-cache policy ghc, I only find the standard version19:18
Makerblakeranyone having issues downloading from http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu today? This seems to be very slow19:25
krytarikcads: Did you do "sudo apt update" afterwards?19:29
lotuspsychjeMakerblaker: there is #ubuntu-mirrors for issues about the repos, but they mostly operate during office hours19:29
MakerblakerThings are coming down now. Just very slow. Checked my internet and everything is good. Thanks lotuspsychje19:31
quadrathoch2cads did you apt update?19:31
quadrathoch2ahh krytarik was faster19:31
sn00pHello, I am  having a problem in ubunti in hexchat not able to connect to my bounce, i never had this problem before debian, gentoo, and all the others connect fine, any reason why it wouldn't connecct?19:53
quadrathoch2sn00p well it should give you an error19:54
sn00pit just says unknown host19:54
quadrathoch2sn00p so now you know the issue (or should know where to look for the problem)19:55
cadsquadrathoch2, krytarik, yup, but of course19:55
quadrathoch2sounds like dns19:55
quadrathoch2cads working now?19:55
cadsno19:55
cadsthat's why I'm here ;)19:56
sn00pquadrathoch2, everything else is working fine19:56
sn00pi can ssh into my server19:56
quadrathoch2maybe you should ask in the specific wsl channel19:56
quadrathoch2!wsl19:56
ubottuWindows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide19:56
quadrathoch2sn00p firewall?19:56
sn00pno firewall19:56
sn00pit worked in gentoo debian and all t he others19:56
sn00pi'm using  ubuntu fine on this network19:57
cadssorry, didn't know! Any way you could drop that in the topic? I'm cringing just thinking about it, lol19:57
quadrathoch2cads i'm not a mod, so nope can't put it into the topic :/19:57
quadrathoch2sn00p what happens when you telnet the server at the specific port?19:57
chownHello. Ubuntu 18.04. I am trying to figure out how to get the 'heal transparency' plugin in gimp 2.8. Any ideas?19:57
sn00pquadrathoch2, it connects19:57
quadrathoch2hexchat through apt? sn00p19:58
sn00pryes19:59
sn00pyes19:59
quadrathoch2hm, sorry, then I'm out of ideas :/20:01
TJ-sn00p: maybe an IPv6 vs IPv4 issue? trying to connect over IPv6 maybe but no path?20:03
sn00pno, it worked in all other linux20:03
TJ-sn00p: have you checked which address family hexchat is trying to use?20:06
sn00pits just the ip and port number ip/port number20:06
TJ-sn00p: "unknown host" suggests it si (trying to ) use a hostname not an IP address20:07
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chownHello guys20:39
chownI am trying to clean my system and make space on /20:40
chownbecause of this  /dev/sda2        25G   24G  687M  98% /20:40
chowndpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n|nc termbin.com 999920:40
chownhttps://termbin.com/eu0h here is the result of this20:40
TJ-chown: "sudo du -xhd 2 / | sort -h"20:40
chownHow can I safely remove all the old kernel/header/module packages (I know how to remove the largest packages like redeclipse and games and texlive)20:41
TJ-chown: ^^^ this will list the directories using most space, with largest last20:41
chownI can do that with ncdu as well, which is nicer20:41
chownCould you tell me how to do what I seekt to do?20:41
chownA lot of space is taken by packages like linux-image-5.4.0-54-generic from 42 to 5420:42
chownHeaders, modules, etc. etc.20:42
chownI would like to remove all the packags except the ones needed by ubuntu 18.0420:42
chownThat should save some space, I think20:42
TJ-chown: there should only be 3 kernel/header package versions retained; that is set at /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels20:43
chownhttps://termbin.com/m0k020:43
TJ-chown: "sudo apt autoremove" ought to remove those20:43
chownIt doesn't say it wants to remove anything20:44
chownThers is a never autoremove list20:44
chownHmm20:45
TJ-chown: hmm indeed20:45
chownI can use sudo synaptic and sort by size20:46
chownThat also helps, easy to remove larger packages I dont' need20:46
TJ-chown: the kernels that are still installed - are those versions listed in that 01autoremove-kernels file?20:48
TJ-chown: if so, I suspect the /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal script isn't running correctly to update that list after new kernels get installed OR you've got the config option set to never remove kernels20:48
tomreynchown: what's the output of     dpkg -l linux-generic-hwe-18.04 | nc termbin.com 999920:49
chownsec20:49
chownhttps://termbin.com/wab5o20:49
chowntomreyn:20:49
tomreynhmm, okay, it was worth a try.20:49
chownTJ-: I did not set any option to do that.20:50
chownHow can I list intalled kernel packages20:50
TJ-chown: "apt list --installed 'linux-image*'20:50
chown21 packages to remove in synaptic (games and stuff) 1739mb will be freed20:52
chowncouldn't get windows stuff to run in linux so removing mono* and blender and inkscape etc. etc.20:56
chownmade 2gb so far20:57
chownafter which autoremove should remove some more20:57
chownanother 807mb freed by autoremove20:58
chownI was shortsighted when I made this / partition20:58
chownWhat do you guys make your / partition to be? I did 20gb20:58
chownApparently not enough. Maybe 40? but I dont 'want the space to sit idly by and not be used20:58
chownSo 30? I don't know.20:58
TJ-chown: I use LVM, and rootfs is 12G, /var 12G, /home 20G20:59
chownWhat is lvm?20:59
TJ-!lvm | chown20:59
ubottuchown: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:59
chownI have a 120gb ssd with 40gb for windows, too low, so may reformat. 20gb for / and rest for /home20:59
chownOk20:59
TJ-chown: Logical Volume Management; allows you to create volumes much more flexibly and at will21:00
chownhey great success /dev/sda2        25G   20G  4.3G  83% /21:00
chownwhew!21:00
chownand home is /dev/sda3        56G   50G  6.6G  89% /home21:00
chownI will check out this lvm21:00
chownlinux-image-5.4.0-53-generic, linux-image-5.4.0-54-generic, and linux-image-generic-hwe-18.0421:01
chownThese three packages are installed when I run the command from TJ-21:02
chownI guess I don't need 53?21:02
TJ-chown: that seems correct then21:02
quadrathoch2sounds good, 1 for backup, and the last package is a virtual one, so maybe a few kbs21:02
chownoh ok21:02
TJ-chown: the last 2 are kept in case of problems21:02
quadrathoch2i would keep it for backup, if something happens21:02
chown53 kernel is backup?21:02
chownI gotcha21:02
chownOk thanks21:02
chownI was trying to get the gimp plugins to work, but I discovered I insalled a python 3 alternative in update-alternatives so all the scripts were failing.21:03
chownLast time I installed plugins in manually  in .gimp but now I see packages ubutnu org says heal-selection.py is in plugin registry package21:03
chownBRB21:03
chownAlso, how can I remove all the flatpak and all the other stuff that runs in a app container, what's it called?21:04
chownsnap21:04
chownI would like to remove all the snap and flatpak stuff from my system. Any idea how?21:05
chownCan it all be done in one go, or do I have to use snap uninstal this and that and then flatpak uninstall this and that manually21:05
quadrathoch2afair, you should be able to remove it in one go, but not 100% sure21:06
chownIf you know how to, that'd be wonderful21:07
chownguess it's manually i think21:07
jpdschown: https://www.kevin-custer.com/blog/disabling-snaps-in-ubuntu-20-04/21:08
chownyeah I did it manually21:10
chownThere wasn't a way to remove all in one shot21:10
chownnow the snap loopbacks are gone too, great21:10
chownand now 77% free on /21:11
quadrathoch2chown imho, it should have been possible to just sudo apt purge snapd21:11
quadrathoch2but idk21:11
chownyou can do that, but it leaves behind some stuff I think.21:12
chownI could be wrong21:12
jpdschown: If you want to totally remove it; just use Debian21:12
chownI used to21:12
chownfrom 2000 to 101621:14
chownThen I switched to Ubuntu LTS because it was already setup for me.21:15
chownPlus stable is old, testing sometimes breaks, and sid is too tedious to keep up with21:15
chownThough, this whole upgrade/reinstall ubuntu every few years because of LTS upgrade21:15
chownThat's killing me since 2016, man. OOF21:16
chownI'm seriously considering switch to some more 'stable~ish' rolling-release.21:16
chownBut that's neither here nor there.21:16
jpdsIt's life, if you're not happy with that: use Gentoo21:16
tomreynthis is rapidly turning into !chat now. unkless you have an ubuntu support question?21:16
tomreynthere's also ##linux for discussing the various distros21:17
chownAwesome21:17
chownTy21:17
luceneraHi, I’ve a laptop with Atheros QCA9377 wi-fi card. I have speed issues on Ubuntu 20.10. I have a 1 Gb/s FTTH line and Asus ROG Rapture AX-11000 router. Both the line and the router are perfect with all the other devices in the house. The same laptop with Windows 10 has no problems (the card is slow, but I still reach 400 Mb/s in download). With21:52
luceneraUbuntu, I don't exceed 30 Mb/s.21:52
jeremy31lucenera: post URL from terminal for>  iwconfig | nc termbin.com 999921:53
FreeBDSMhello, how to install a package from a local deb file yet tell it to install deps from the apt?21:53
MaikFreeBDSM: just use gdebi...?21:54
lucenerajeremy31 https://termbin.com/xtov21:55
jeremy31lucenera: The wifi power management is enabled, run this command in terminal, it will disconnect you for a few seconds>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service21:56
MrCollinsI was looking at his link quality 37/7021:57
quadrathoch2FreeBDSM sudo apt install ./*deb21:58
FreeBDSMMaik: thanks, that worked21:58
jeremy31MrCollins: Slightly over 50% signal on RX, I can't fix that21:58
FreeBDSMMaik: is it more preferred than apt?21:58
MaikFreeBDSM: Sofware center does the same if you use main Ubuntu by the way.21:59
FreeBDSMMaik: I don't use software center21:59
Maikthere's no prefered way, just what you are used too :)21:59
lucenerajeremy31 https://www.speedtest.net/result/10465221411.png22:01
luceneraNothing seems to have changed after switching to 2.22:02
jeremy31lucenera: also in terminal>  sudo iwconfig wlp4s0 power off22:03
luceneraWhat exactly does it do? Meanwhile, I did.22:04
jeremy31It should disable power management for wifi even if the other command didn't work22:04
jeremy31lucenera: Check wifi router encryption settings, do not use WEP or TKIP22:05
luceneraWPA222:05
luceneraWPA3 not supported from my laptop.22:05
jeremy31lucenera: AES/CCMP?22:05
luceneraAES22:06
lucenerahttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1239188/slow-wifi-atheros-qca9377-speed-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts22:06
luceneraI found many similar posts.22:07
luceneraOnly solution: change the network card.22:07
jeremy31lucenera: ignore that question.  See https://askubuntu.com/a/425180/300665 and give me a link to the script results22:08
lucenerajeremy31 https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/4265681523 same ftth on iPad.22:09
lucenerajeremy31 https://termbin.com/46a222:11
jeremy31lucenera: URL for>  dmesg | grep ath | nc termbin.com 999922:13
lucenerahttps://termbin.com/078322:14
jeremy31lucenera: you can try https://askubuntu.com/a/1262429/300665  if it fails, try a sudo apt-get install reinstall linux-firmware22:23
lucenerajeremy31 ok thanks now I try.22:24
TheFuHaving issues running snaps. Looked for answers, but they don't seem to apply in this situation.  Error is: cannot create user data directory: /home/ubuntu/snap/jami/108: Permission denied22:33
TheFuusername is "ubuntu"22:33
TheFuFile and directory permissions are 755 ubuntu:ubuntu .22:34
TheFuNo NFS.22:34
TheFu /home/ubuntu/ is in the passwd, no need for bind mounts.22:35
TheFuI do use LVM, so the file system is an LV.22:36
lucenerajeremy31 I fail in this step: ls -R /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0/ | grep '. * WLAN.TF. <here you should fill with your dmesg result>'22:36
TheFuAny ideas?  Multiple end-user program snaps are failing with the same error, but the lxd snap has always worked.22:36
luceneraI am not getting results to identify the firmware I am using.22:37
jeremy31lucenera: You are using firmware-6.bin22:37
luceneraah ok.22:38
luceneraNow I replace. Where did you read it from?22:38
jeremy31For that it might be WLAN.TF.2.1-00021-QCARMSWP-1   It was in results for dmesg | grep ath22:38
jeremy31lucenera: The file from github will have to be renamed to firmware-6.bin in the ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0 directory22:40
luceneraI don't have the WLAN.TF.etcetc folder22:43
luceneracd /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0 = board-2.bin  board.bin  firmware-5.bin  firmware-6.bin  firmware-6.bin.old22:43
lucenerano directory22:44
jeremy31lucenera: the WLAN.TF is from the github site22:46
luceneraOk, got it and done. Renamed the old firmware-6.bin and replaced with the one in the repository. Now reboot?22:47
jeremy31lucenera: give it a try22:49
lucenerahttps://www.speedtest.net/result/10465357778.png22:51
luceneraImproved, but still far from Windows.22:51
luceneraIn Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.10 I had no problems. Speed was normal. Just below the other operating systems.22:52
luceneraUbuntu 20.x much worse.22:53
luceneraWill it be the new kernel?22:53
tomreyncombination of new kernel version and no vendor support22:54
luceneratomreyn it's true.22:55
luceneraOnly Apple in the world can give you everything. But everything else is missing.22:55
jeremy31lucenera: Can you use 2.4 GHz access point?22:56
lucenerajeremy31 yes, But that is already very slow on its own. Now I try though.22:56
jeremy31tomreyn: Atheros has good vendor support compared to Realtek22:56
jeremy31lucenera: what country are you in?22:57
luceneraIn theory Atheros is also much more supported for routers, such as Turris Omnia and MOX.22:57
lucenerajeremy31 Italy22:57
jeremy31lucenera: In terminal>  sudo iw reg set IT22:57
jeremy31And it might help to go into Network Manager settings for the wifi and set IPv6 to ignore/disable22:58
lucenerajeremy31 Made for both.22:59
lucenerarestart NetworkManager?22:59
jeremy31lucenera: reboot or restart NM22:59
luceneraThe service restarted. But the thing is, it doesn't drop from 6Mbit/s for link speed in Network Manager GUI.23:01
luceneraNow I try on 2.4 GHz.23:01
lucenerahttps://www.speedtest.net/result/10465390108.png23:03
luceneraStill improved on 2.4 GHz. But it's not the best. Now I try on the other 5 GHz. The router is tri-band.23:04
jeremy31lucenera: Any options in the BIOS to disable IOMMU?23:08
lucenerajeremy31 yes.23:09
luceneraCould there be a link?23:10
gordonjcpwifi should always be the connection of last resort23:10
jeremy31Might want to try with IOMMU disabled.  Your log also showed AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT domain=0x000c address=0xfbe27ad0 flags=0x0070]  and the search I did leads to IOMMU23:10
luceneraYes, linux doesn't get along very well with this feature.23:11
luceneraNow I disable it.23:11
luceneragordonjcpThe ethernet cable is better, but in a home it is not always possible for everything.23:16
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luceneragordonjcp23:16
lucenerajeremy31 IOMMU option disabled, but the network speed is the same. I have only the third band left. However on 2.4 GHz it is much better.23:16
jattis it safe to resize the partition holding the master boot record (MBR)?23:17
shibboleththe mbr isn't *on* a partition23:17
shibbolethit's the master boot record23:18
shibbolethand where partition offsets are... defined23:18
jattI've the following:23:18
jatt/dev/sdb2  *    1023999165 1228795784  204796620  97,7G 83 Linux23:18
jattdf -h23:19
jatt/dev/sdb2        96G  757M   91G   1%23:19
jattonly 1% is used in /dev/sdb2 and I'd like to resize it to make smaller and create a new partition so I can use around 90GB23:20
shibbolethand?23:20
shibboleththats likely conversion between MB and MiB23:20
shibbolethalso, you can't extend a partition *backwards*23:20
jattI wonder if resizing /dev/sdb2 is OK not sure if the MBR might be damaged if I resize /dev/sdb223:21
shibbolethwell, you can, but the filesystem will take issue with it23:21
shibbolethjatt, you even know what the mbr is?23:21
jattfor instance, in OS X such resizing is not allowed:23:23
jatthttps://superuser.com/questions/655960/os-x-10-8-cant-resize-partitions-on-mbr-disk23:23
jattnot sure whether a similar thing happens in Ubuntu23:24
shibboleth...23:24
lucenerajeremy31 Thanks for everything and for your interest. Only on 2.4 GHz the speed is decent. Maybe in a future version of the kernel / firmware it will be better. With the latest from Fedora and with Archlinux the same result.23:26
shibbolethjatt, that's the "boot partition"23:26
shibbolethcompletely different from the *MBR*23:26
shibbolethand if you wanna resize the bootpart to free up space behind it, you can't just extend to following partition to use the new free space in front of it23:27
shibbolethfilesystems work on offsets23:28
jeremy31lucenera: It might take a kernel bug to be filed to fix it23:39
lucenerajeremy31 I think so.23:43

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