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| jibel | Good morning | 06:04 |
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| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 06:07 |
| jibel | salut seb128 | 06:13 |
| jibel | ça va? | 06:13 |
| duflu | Morning jibel and seb128 | 06:21 |
| seb128 | lut jibel, oui nickel, et toi ? | 06:22 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you ? | 06:22 |
| duflu | seb128, I'm OK. Just overfull, trying to empty the freezer before the power company takes away our electricity for maintenance tonight :/ | 06:24 |
| jibel | seb128,ben oui, tranquille | 06:24 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:09 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:10 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:17 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:28 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:34 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:35 |
| jibel | salut oSoMoN didrocks | 07:37 |
| marcustomlinson | morning jibel seb128 duflu oSoMoN and didrocks | 07:39 |
| duflu | Hi marcustomlinson | 07:39 |
| jibel | morning marcustomlinson | 07:41 |
| callmepk | hi jibel duflu seb128 oSoMoN didrocks marcustomlinson | 08:42 |
| duflu | Hi callmepk | 08:42 |
| marcustomlinson | hey callmepk | 08:42 |
| callmepk | forget to open irc today... | 08:42 |
| didrocks | unsure you missed anything :) | 08:43 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel, good morning marcustomlinson, good afternoon callmepk | 08:49 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, didrocks, hey marcustomlinson | 08:59 |
| seb128 | how is everyone? | 08:59 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:59 |
| oSoMoN | doing good, how are you? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | duflu, how long do they cut the power? usually freeze can stay cold enough for at least half a day no? | 09:00 |
| duflu | seb128, just overnight so I will leave it closed and find out tomorrow | 09:00 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I'm alright! | 09:01 |
| seb128 | duflu, good luck then :) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | jamesh, weekly summary reminder: ) | 09:09 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, still messy night, but ok | 09:09 |
| seb128 | :-( | 09:10 |
| jamesh | seb128: just finishing it off. Got a few of my old PRs merged this week. | 09:10 |
| seb128 | jamesh, \o/ | 09:10 |
| seb128 | how close are we from a working dbus activation? | 09:10 |
| jamesh | In particular https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8943 | 09:10 |
| seb128 | great | 09:10 |
| seb128 | so it should be working if you turn in the flag? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | on | 09:11 |
| jamesh | code's in master now, but gated behind some experimental flags. | 09:11 |
| jamesh | yes | 09:11 |
| seb128 | great :) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, do we have a process to be able to distro patch changes in firefox? are we supposed to ask them first? | 09:14 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, congrats on your perseverance! | 09:14 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, there's no formal process | 09:15 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: just snuck in two weeks before the original PR's second birthday. | 09:16 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I wonder if we could include the patch from https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D95171 since it's trivial, or at least use our contacts with them to tell them we want it, maybe that would be enough of a nudge to get a review | 09:16 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, right, I have it on my list to try to get upstream feedback, and I wouldn't be opposed to distro-patching if we didn't get any | 09:17 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, thanks, I'm just a bit disappointed I guess, I hoped firefox reviews were happening on regular basis, at least for easy changes | 09:25 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I've pinged one of my contacts at mozilla, let's see what they say | 09:26 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, thanks | 09:27 |
| marcustomlinson | congrats jamesh | 09:40 |
| jamesh | marcustomlinson: thanks | 09:41 |
| tjaalton | my groovy desktop is configured to go to sleep when pressing the power button, but it wants to shut down now instead (after 60s delay), did something change? | 14:14 |
| tjaalton | and the power saving capplet doesn't show the setting anymore | 14:15 |
| luna_ | so desktop meeting in 10 minutes? | 14:21 |
| Maik | tjaalton: uhm.... wrong channel? | 14:22 |
| tjaalton | Maik: why? | 14:24 |
| Maik | because it sounds more like a support question to me :) | 14:24 |
| tjaalton | maybe | 14:25 |
| luna_ | #ubuntu ? | 14:25 |
| tjaalton | I'll pass | 14:25 |
| Maik | support is in #ubuntu after all | 14:25 |
| ogra | sounds more like a bug | 14:26 |
| Maik | luna_: meeting? where to find the schedule? | 14:26 |
| luna_ | Maik: think its always on Tuesday afternoons around 15:00-15:30 my time if i am not wrong | 14:27 |
| luna_ | Maik: mostly throwing the right bugs on people that can fix them and so on | 14:27 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:27 |
| luna_ | hello hellsworth | 14:27 |
| Maik | luna_: thanks, understood | 14:27 |
| Maik | hi hellsworth | 14:27 |
| hellsworth | hi folks | 14:28 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-11-24 | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 14:30:33 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:30 |
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| luna_ | should be around now i think? but i can be wrong | 14:30 |
| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 14:30 |
| luna_ | *here* | 14:30 |
| oSoMoN | \o | 14:30 |
| callmepk | o/ | 14:30 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 14:30 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:31 |
| didrocks | o/ | 14:31 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, the power button behaviour shouldn't have change no, that's in an Ubuntu (GNOME) session? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | k, let's get started | 14:31 |
| jibel | o/ | 14:31 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bug | 14:31 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:31 |
| luna_ | Fix Committed | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 14:32 |
| seb128 | also it affects only bionic and fix is uploaded | 14:32 |
| seb128 | I untagged now | 14:32 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yes, I'll file abug | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks | 14:32 |
| seb128 | only unassigned is the same wpa one | 14:33 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bug | 14:33 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | k, just noise that needs untagging there | 14:33 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | bug #1901609 | 14:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1901609 in signon (Ubuntu Hirsute) "signond causes qprocess crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901609 | 14:33 |
| seb128 | that's on our report because we used that in unity time | 14:34 |
| seb128 | that's a kde issue it seems | 14:34 |
| seb128 | -1 for us to take on that one since it doesn't impact our desktop | 14:34 |
| luna_ | but try to notify KDE Neon or Kubuntu developers about it? | 14:35 |
| seb128 | yes, also seems like there is a suggested fix, I'm going to subscribe sponsors | 14:35 |
| seb128 | -1 from me, other opinions? | 14:36 |
| hellsworth | i would say -1 unless it causes a crash increase in errors.u.c | 14:36 |
| seb128 | RikMills, ^ is that one you could handle perhaps? | 14:37 |
| hellsworth | like a large increase. enough to warrant attention | 14:37 |
| seb128 | doesn't seem so | 14:37 |
| seb128 | k, let's decline for us and move on | 14:37 |
| luna_ | yeah try to give it to RikMills and jriddel maybe and the people that does KDE based things | 14:37 |
| seb128 | that's it for focal | 14:38 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-gg-bug | 14:38 |
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| seb128 | the one there is assigned and fix commited upstream so needs untagging | 14:38 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:38 |
| seb128 | bluez on is incomplete and not for us | 14:39 |
| seb128 | signon we just discussed | 14:39 |
| seb128 | bug #1903574 | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1903574 in appstream (Ubuntu Groovy) "isenkram-lookup crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903574 | 14:39 |
| seb128 | Gunnar cares about it but I'm -1 for our team | 14:39 |
| seb128 | isenkram-lookup isn't something really used | 14:40 |
| RikMills | seb128: neon devs have already pinged me about signod. I will try to get to it this week | 14:40 |
| seb128 | and it seems to be a bug in gobject-introspection and being discussed | 14:40 |
| RikMills | *signond | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | it'd be good to know whether there are other more common ways to trigger this crash | 14:40 |
| seb128 | RikMills, can I assign it to you? it's showing on our report because it's targetted and unassigned | 14:40 |
| RikMills | feel free | 14:40 |
| seb128 | RikMills, thx | 14:40 |
| seb128 | the patch seems trivial, removing a compiler flag from the build system | 14:41 |
| luna_ | i have never even heard isenkram but it seems like the Upstream developers is working on it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gobject-introspection/-/issues/305 | 14:41 |
| seb128 | let's skip until we get more details, it seems worked on anyway | 14:42 |
| seb128 | that's it for G | 14:42 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-hh-bug | 14:42 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:42 |
| seb128 | bug #1785262 | 14:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1785262 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "arm64 autopkgtests are flaky" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785262 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | L_aney tagged this one | 14:42 |
| hellsworth | just assigned myself | 14:42 |
| seb128 | it has an impact on infra and I think we should fix but I'm -1 on rls | 14:42 |
| seb128 | it's not impacting users and not an ubuntu release target issue | 14:43 |
| seb128 | hellsworth, thanks | 14:43 |
| seb128 | do people think it needs to be targetted or not? | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | i pointed r_icotz too to get his opinion. i don't think it needs to be targeted | 14:43 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | well but it should be fixed by april though just because that's a long time | 14:44 |
| hellsworth | so maybe we should target it.. | 14:44 |
| oSoMoN | no need for targetting indeed | 14:44 |
| luna_ | it depends on how many people use libreoffice on ARM64 on Raspberry Pis, Banana Boards, Beagleboards and all that they are called i guess, but as long as its stable and works for when a new image is released | 14:44 |
| seb128 | yeah, it's more an infrastructure issue | 14:45 |
| hellsworth | i vote -1 for targeting and will work on it anyways | 14:45 |
| seb128 | the tests are slow and eat resources | 14:45 |
| seb128 | seems reasonable, I've tagged notfixing wiht a comment | 14:45 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:46 |
| seb128 | the signond one | 14:46 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 14:46 |
| luna_ | +1 hellsworth you know best i am not doing ARM things, only ISO testing x64 images and helping with Swedish translations a voluenteer :p | 14:46 |
| hellsworth | thanks luna_ :) | 14:46 |
| seb128 | others are assigned | 14:46 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:47 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:47 |
| seb128 | k, that list is still not reviewable, perl and python transitions are ongoing | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I'm on +1 rotation today and tomorrow so will review it and note things if needed | 14:47 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:47 |
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| seb128 | anything else? | 14:47 |
| luna_ | There was a newer mesa today for the others i don't have any comments | 14:47 |
| luna_ | was wondering about December meetings? Are we/you gonna have them the whole December, or is there any xmas/new years break and such? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | depends of when people are off | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | we won't have a meeting on the 29th | 14:49 |
| seb128 | but we will probably at least skip the 29th | 14:49 |
| luna_ | ah alright | 14:49 |
| seb128 | anything else? | 14:50 |
| seb128 | seems not, then it's a wrap! | 14:51 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone | 14:51 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 14:51:22 2020 UTC. | 14:51 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-11-24-14.30.moin.txt | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | thanks! | 14:51 |
| hellsworth | thanks! | 14:51 |
| luna_ | thanks | 14:51 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 14:52 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 14:52 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth, ricotz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | thank you! | 14:53 |
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| Mirv | Trevinho/others: there's a timing/versionnr/sruprocess/LP hitch in that mutter in groovy is not migrating - pending-sru shows one bug not being verified, but the #1878293 claims it's fix released in groovy - it's released in hirsute with the same version number, but that version number is only in proposed in groovy - and of course should be 1ubuntu1.1 instead of ubuntu2 | 19:17 |
| Mirv | I'm also tired out, but just pointing it out since people are probably waiting for chromium to work under wayland (from #1897224 fix also included in it) | 19:18 |
| Mirv | I mean too tired for brain to function properly but less-than-accurately describing the problem still :) maybe just verification-done away, if it's the same binary it can probably live in both releases with same version number | 19:20 |
| Trevinho | Mirv: hey, let me check | 20:05 |
| Trevinho | Mirv: so, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/1878293 needs verification | 20:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1878293 in mutter (Ubuntu Groovy) "xterm resize is wonky" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 20:05 |
| Trevinho | Mirv: see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 20:06 |
| Trevinho | if you verify that bug being fixed, you can help move forward :) | 20:06 |
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