[00:03] <olspookishmagus> oh great, usb-storage "crashed" and I wasn't following /var/log/syslog 's tail
[00:03] <olspookishmagus> guess I'll postpone my HDD OPs for when my new USB docking station will arrive, or maybe I need to have a system hanging around for a while while I'm toppling those final IDE HDD OPs
[00:58] <Auctus> installed and forgot about ubuntu 20.04 server on this machine a few weeks ago, booting into it now, it doesnt boot to a login screen, have to hit ctrl+alt+f1 for that, is that normal?
[00:59] <Auctus> [    7.107300] cloud-init[956]: 2020-11-24 08:59:04,101 - cc_final_message.py[WARNING]: Used fallback datasource
[00:59] <Auctus> thats what it boots to
[01:00] <sarnold> Auctus: ubuntu server doesn't usually install any graphical thingy; I'd have expected it to be sitting on vt1 to begin with though
[01:00] <Auctus> so anyway, ctrl+alt+f1 and log in and "ip addr show" says enp1s0 is down by default, tryin to figure out how to get this thing on the network
[01:01] <Auctus> sarnold: yeah idk how much of this is just "how 20.04 does things" and i just need to learn it, or if anything is not as it should be
[01:01] <Auctus> i dont remember having to set up an ethernet connection in any past ubuntu
[01:02] <sarnold> Auctus: desktop defaults to networkmanager, which could very well give that impression
[01:02] <sarnold> Auctus: server defaults to using netplan.io, either directly or via cloud-init, to run systemd-networkd; but you can configure netplan to use networkmanager on your server if you're really so inclined
[01:28] <jayjo-> Why do the ubuntu mirrors use a symbolic link for ubuntu/ and the current directory? This page: https://askubuntu.com/questions/953249 makes it seem like it's to convenience mirroring the official archives at archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu at my-mirror.com. That does make it easier. Why not just use my-mirror.com/ubuntu?
[01:39] <jayjo-> Is that a file hosting thing, maybe?
[02:20] <neldogz> Today while attempting to install updates via the apt upgrade command on my Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS desktop, I received the following error "grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: Operation not permitted" while the system attempted to install grub-efi-amd64-signed. I tried reinstalling using sudo apt reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed however a blue screen pops up in the terminal stating that GRUB failed to install to the
[02:20] <neldogz> following devices: /dev/nvme1n1p2 Has anyone experienced this issue? I am afraid to reboot now fearing the system may not come up.
[02:22] <neldogz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RcgJtP8mwZ/
[02:23] <neldogz> ^^ some logs
[02:27] <sarnold> neldogz: very curious, you're the second person in here today who had both grub-pc *and* gruib-efi-amd64-signed installed at once.
[02:27] <neldogz> @sarnold, yes sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade pulled these packages down automatically
[02:27] <Bashing-om> neldogz: An Asus board ? As earlier was deduced a similar as a firmware bug for another poster.
[02:28] <neldogz> @Bashing-om, yes it is and dual-boot with Windows 10
[02:28] <sarnold> neldogz: the "operation not permitted" bit is likely due to the laptop firmware not allowing the OS to update the boot menu for whatever reason
[02:29] <neldogz> The motherboard model is an Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING
[02:32] <neldogz> This is the first time that I have experienced an issue, Ubuntu has been solid otherwise.
[02:34] <sarnold> neldogz: do you have contents in /sys/firmware/efi/ ?
[02:35] <neldogz> @sarnold, yes, here is the contents https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BfQ4d7p7N4/
[02:36] <Bashing-om> neldogz: Earlier situation with the other poster  was directed to file a ticket with Asus. Ya might want to pull up the channel log and see if your's is same. (blueeagle).
[02:36] <neldogz> @Bashing-om, yes I will, thank you!
[02:37] <sarnold> neldogz: alrgith, cool; I think try sudo apt install grub-pc- grub-efi-amd64   -- and see what that does
[02:39] <neldogz> @sarnold, interesting, conflicts: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qbt5zwPBbZ/
[02:39] <sarnold> neldogz: ah looks like the - was missed
[02:39] <sarnold> sudo apt install grub-pc- grub-efi-amd64
[02:40] <neldogz> I will redo, I thought it was an error
[02:41] <neldogz> @sarnold, it wants to do this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MqgNhqJcPx/
[02:41] <sarnold> neldogz: I think that's probably fine
[02:43] <neldogz> @sarnold, same error as before "GRUB failed to install to the following devices: /dev/nvme1n1p2 Do you want to continue anyway? If you do, your computer may not start up properly. Writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> neldogz: sarnold: should be grub-pc , no hyphen in the name.
[02:44] <sarnold> neldogz: okay, cool; can you pastebin efibootmgr -v  ? it'd be nice to make sure both ubuntu and windows are still in the list
[02:44] <sarnold> actually, I wonder if windows has done something to 'lock' this section.. the previous reporter couldn't find anything in the bios menus that sounded like it would prevent new operating system installs, or "boot sector antivirus" kinds of things..
[02:45] <neldogz> Here is the install log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Px6sWQKPKj/
[02:45] <sarnold> Bashing-om: apt install package1- package2  will uninstall package1 the same time it installs package2 -- it's very handy for changing which package you have installed when dependencies and conflicts means you must have exactly one installed at all times
[02:47] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Oh - slipped my mind - apprecate that you re-direct me :D
[02:47] <sarnold> :D
[02:47] <neldogz> @sarnold, here is the efibootgr -v https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5C6K7yyzGJ/
[02:47] <sarnold> neldogz: okay, I'm not super-famil;iar with this but it does look like both windows and ubuntu are still listed as bootable, so it's probably fine
[02:48] <neldogz> Yes agreed. I will try a reboot
[02:48] <neldogz> @sarnold, thank you for all your help!
[02:49] <sarnold> neldogz: coolc ool, good luck, I hope this is as uneventful as I expect :)
[02:54] <neldogz1> @sarnold, booted just fine :)) thanks again!
[02:55] <Bashing-om> !cookie | sarnold
[02:55] <sarnold> neldogz1: wonderful! :D thanks for reporting back, I was getting a bit worried :)
[03:05] <tphoerig> Could someone please help me install Cloudflare SSL across all of ISPConfig
[03:06] <matsaman> probably more tutorials on using Let's Encrypt
[03:08] <tphoerig> I really am proud that I got this far setting up a server
[03:08] <tphoerig> I just need help on this last part, I can't figure it out
[03:09] <sarnold> if you've got a set of instructions and an error message from trying to follow those instructions, maybe someone can suggest something
[03:10] <matsaman> tphoerig: maybe something like this: https://www.ma-no.org/en/networking/servers/how-to-setup-free-let-rsquo-s-encrypt-ssl-certificates-with-ispconfig-3
[03:10] <tphoerig> I've tried so many different tutorials and every time I end up messing something up and having to reinstall Ubuntu all over again
[03:11] <tphoerig> I've reinstalled the OS so many times that I've lost count.
[03:11] <matsaman> well, good
[03:11] <matsaman> this is a great opportunity, then
[03:11] <matsaman> for you to take a snapshot/backup of your system
[03:11] <matsaman> which is something you should absolutely be doing for a server install anyway
[03:11] <tphoerig> Could someone be nice enough to remote desktop and see what's going on with it o
[03:12] <tphoerig> Ooooo
[03:12] <tphoerig> I can do a snapshot
[03:12] <tphoerig> tell me how
[03:12] <matsaman> you're installed to metal?
[03:12] <matsaman> what FS?
[03:12] <matsaman> using LVM or not?
[03:14] <tphoerig> How do I check
[03:14] <tphoerig> I'm not sure if I setup LVM this time around
[03:14] <tphoerig> I've done so many reinstalls it's unreal
[03:15] <matsaman> tphoerig: 'mount' would give you a fair amount of info
[03:17] <tphoerig> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
[03:17] <tphoerig> proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
[03:17] <tphoerig> udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=2994080k,nr_inodes=748520,mode=755)
[03:17] <tphoerig> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
[03:17] <tphoerig> tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=607892k,mode=755)
[03:17] <tphoerig> securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
[03:17] <tphoerig> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[03:17] <tphoerig> tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
[03:17] <tphoerig> tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
[03:17] <tphoerig> pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
[03:17] <tphoerig> none on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb)
[03:17] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
[03:18] <tphoerig> cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
[03:18] <tphoerig> systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=28,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=16157)
[03:18] <sarnold> sigh I thought I had a /quiet command ..
[03:19] <sarnold> tphoerig: please do use a pastebin site for future pastes :)
[03:20] <matsaman> tphoerig: try again
[03:21] <tphoerig> Sorry guys I am not that experienced with this
[03:21] <sarnold> no worries :)
[03:22] <tphoerig> https://pastebin.com/4wmLw1ej
[03:24] <sarnold> I think this entry: /dev/mapper/vgkubuntu-root on / ... is probably the lvm thing you're looking for
[03:25] <sarnold> I don't know lvm well though, so I'm not sure what to suggest next
[03:25] <tphoerig> How do you make a snapshot?
[03:26] <matsaman> tphoerig: http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+lvm+snapshot
[03:44] <Auctus> what do i need to change so i dont have to type "sudo dhclient enp2s0" to get online on ubuntu server 20.04 when i boot?
[03:44] <Auctus> or, where do i read about it
[03:46] <sarnold> Auctus: are you intentionally using dhcp for your server?
[03:48] <sarnold> Auctus: is there a reason why you're using dhclient rather using systemd-networkd's dhcp client?
[03:49] <sarnold> Auctus: is there a reason why you're running dhclient by hand rather than networkctl renew?
[03:50] <sarnold> Auctus: maybe 'dhcp-identifier' ought to be set to 'mac' in your netplan configs? https://netplan.io/reference/
[03:53]  * Auctus checks that netplan.io/reference
[03:54] <Auctus> sarnold: i dont know, i need some kind of quickstart guide or something, seems like a lot has changed and its up to me to figure out what all that is
[03:54] <Auctus> so far i have boot up -> no internet -> googled it and found "sudo dhclient enp2s0" and thats how far ive gotten so far
[03:55] <Auctus> no networking at all i mean, much less internet
[03:55] <Auctus> both interfaces down by default
[03:56] <Matthew28845> what network card do you have?
[03:57] <Auctus> Matthew28845: 2 onboard ethernet interfaces
[03:57] <Matthew28845> yes but what model specifically
[03:57] <Auctus> how do i find out?
[03:58] <Matthew28845> lspci will probably show the exact model
[03:58] <matsaman> if you smash it and it smells of okra, it was a winmodem
[03:58] <Auctus> realtek rtl8111/8168/8411 ?
[04:00] <dolfk> after upgrade, I no longer have any pulseaudio devices, how can I fix it?
[04:00] <Matthew28845> the package you need should be r8168-dkms
[04:02] <sarnold> dolfk: many audio problems are 'easy' to solve if you run pavucontrol and look around a bit
[04:02] <Matthew28845> Auctus: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[04:03] <dolfk> 20.10
[04:03] <dolfk> as I said, I have no pulseaudio devices. pavucontrol is useless
[04:13] <Mat63> hello, how to automatically turn on my pc, like an alarm clock.
[04:14] <Mat63> It's the first time that it occurs to me
[04:15] <Mat63> Surely there is already a program that does it
[04:16] <sarnold> Mat63: check out systemd.timer(5) WakeSystem=
[04:16] <sarnold> Mat63: https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/a_programmable_alarm_clock_using_systemd/
[04:16] <Mat63> how nice thanks
[04:17] <Mat63> I hope it is useful for ubuntu
[04:17] <matsaman> Ubuntu uses systemd by default at this time
[04:18] <sarnold> dolfk: dang ;( could you file a bug with ubuntu-bug pulseaudio?
[04:18] <matsaman> some BIOS/EFI configurators can also do this on their own, if you for some reason would prefer that
[04:18] <Mat63> ?
[04:18] <Mat63> Excuse me, something simple
[04:19] <Mat63> ready to use
[04:22]  * matsaman shrugs
[04:41] <Auctus> i figured out you can have ?? any random file name in /etc/netplan with a .yaml extension and itll work? I copied the config from the 18.04 server i have
[06:40] <dolfk> why did this channel die?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> dolfk: this channel is not dead, its 24/7
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> dolfk: do you have an ubuntu issue we can help you with?
[06:41] <dolfk> 0 messages in 2.5 hours
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> dolfk: it all depends how many users have issues or not
[07:21] <_lucifer> Hi all! I was trying to increase the number of open file limits using `ulimit` but entered the wrong flag, now i am unable to reset that value.
[07:21] <_lucifer> Is there any way to reset the limits to the default?
[07:23] <_lucifer> specifically limit for file size was unlimited initially, i mistakenly issued `ulimit -f 64000`. When I try to fix that mistake by issuing, `ulimit -f unlimited`, i get the following error
[07:23] <_lucifer> bash: ulimit: file size: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[07:37] <ducasse> hi folks
[08:55] <ZiolaBleu> So I reinstalled the operating system again and restarted. Please someone explain to me why https://msniblets.com:8080 says that the server could not prove that it is msnibelts?
[09:00] <ZiolaBleu> I really feel like I am close: Please view the certificate and tell me what is going on.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Hi guys. Can anyone please tell me the name of the project where you would install Ubuntu to files in NTFS as a quick and dirty try before you buy?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Found it. Wubi
[09:35] <adrian_1908> Anyone using Podman on 18.04? I'm new to Podman (and Docker) and confused by there being two packages, podman and podman-rootless which appear to be either/or, not both at the same time.
[09:35] <adrian_1908> Certainly rootless would be nice, especially while testing the waters, but it's dubbed "experimental" and feature-restricted. Any ideas?
[09:35] <quadrathoch2> Eh? Podman is already rootless never heard of podman-rootless
[09:36] <quadrathoch2> adrian_1908 where does the package come from?
[09:38] <adrian_1908> quadrathoch2: sorry, had to search for a moment, here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:kubic:libcontainers:stable/podman
[09:38] <TJ-> podman is 'daemonless' but can run containers as root or rootless
[09:43] <quadrathoch2> I assume this article goes a bit into the topic https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/rootless-podman-makes-sense
[09:43] <TJ-> https://github.com/containers/podman/blob/master/docs/tutorials/rootless_tutorial.md
[09:49] <lucenera> I use watchower on a server. By giving the docker ps command I see that watchower uses port 8080/tcp. What can it depend on?
[11:03] <BlueEagle> lucenera: How did you install it?
[11:49] <lapion> Why does the live ubuntu gparted create ext4-filesystems with the option -O ^64 so no 64bit filenames ?
[11:54] <lapion> nvm
[12:01] <basenode> how can i see the live logs of my systemd app?
[12:01] <basenode> s/app/process
[12:02] <basenode> journalctl -u my-app.service -f only shows logs from yesterday
[12:22] <TJ-> basenode: -f means follow - will only show recent reports
[12:23] <basenode> TJ-: yeah apparently there was some issue with systemd there, made some changes to the service file and restarted and now its working as it should
[12:26] <Nikke> How to speed up a video in the "videos" application?
[12:28] <lucenera> BlueEagle the command on this page: https://containrrr.dev/watchtower/
[12:29] <lucenera> I think the most basic use there is.
[12:35] <BlueEagle> lucenera: I think you would want to consult the Watchtower support channel, not the Ubuntu support channel. I am not able to immediately find a good answer for you.
[12:41] <lucenera> In fact, at this very moment the mmi watchtower team responded on Github.  Thanks anyway for your availability.
[12:51] <kristian_> I'm having problems connecting my airpod pros to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth. From what I've learned on google many people are having problems using bluetooth headsets for music *and* talking.
[12:51] <kristian_> but I can't even get them to connect. Well they do connect but after 5 seconds it says "disconnected" again in the settings
[12:51] <kristian_> any ideas?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:55] <Nikke> Any idea why I can play .mov files with Videos, but not with VLC?
[12:57] <tomreyn> Nikke: run it from a terminal, see what it reports
[12:58] <tomreyn> kristian_: your ubuntu release is?
[12:58] <tomreyn> and kernel?
[12:59] <kristian_> tomreyn, 18.04 and 5.4.0-53-generic
[12:59] <Nikke> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/9Vcmue9d
[13:02] <tomreyn> kristian_: i have some problems with BT pairing on 18.04 as well, but it works for the same devices on 20.04 (but also on a different computer)
[13:02] <tomreyn> not sure this helps much, but it makes me think upgrading to 20.04 may help.
[13:02] <tomreyn> a separate usb dongle also helps on the 18.04
[13:03] <kristian_> I have this output in the syslog: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/846RZ4rtdn/ tomreyn
[13:04] <BlueEagle> kristian_: My experience is that most bluetooth phone headsets have two "modes". One for conversation, and one for music. As such it may be more than one device paired. Not sure if that is the case for you, though.
[13:04] <tomreyn> Nikke: you've got vlc installed as a snap, and it's not able to find the movie where it thinks it should be: /var/lib/snapd/void/part1.mov
[13:05] <kristian_> BlueEagle, I only see one device. And I did change ControllerMode to "bredr" (saw that from other suggestions) but I think that is related to getting the microphone to work
[13:05] <kristian_> I'm one step before that, getting it to stay connected for more than 10 seconds :)
[13:06] <findmyname> Hello everyone, I'm looking SW for DEB package hosting as private repository. I would like to have something simply which can be easily used in cloud environment, preferably S3 compatible. I found these solutions but non of them is really lightweight:
[13:06] <tomreyn> kristian_: rfkill doesn't list bloothooth as blocked any more now, or does it?
[13:07] <kristian_> tomreyn, I ran sudo rfkill unblock bluetooth (from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54387985/bluetooth-blocked-through-rfkill)
[13:08] <findmyname> Solutions as i stated above ^^^:
[13:08] <tomreyn> kristian_: okay, but is it listed as blocked?
[13:08] <kristian_> tomreyn, how can I see that? this is all new to me :)
[13:08] <tomreyn> open terminal, run "rfkill", look at output
[13:09] <kristian_> tomreyn, it says "unblocked"
[13:09] <findmyname> Pulp , https://www.jfrog.com/confluence/display/JFROG/Debian+Repositories, https://help.sonatype.com/repomanager3/formats/apt-repositories, aptly
[13:09] <tomreyn> kristian_: ok, then try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1172000/a2dp-sink-profile-connect-failed
[13:10] <Nikke> tomreyn so I should uninstall snap vlc and install it somehow differently?
[13:11] <tomreyn> Nikke: that's up to you. it's probably an option. but you could also place the video file at a location where the snap vlc can open it.
[13:15] <kristian_> tomreyn, It kind of worked but then disconnected again argh
[13:16] <tomreyn> kristian_: so check logs again
[13:16] <tomreyn> same errors still?
[13:17] <tomreyn> 'bluetoothd.*: a2dp-sink profile connect failed for .*: Protocol not available' is what was the relevant error message last time at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/846RZ4rtdn/
[13:18] <giaco> tomreyn: yesterday you asked me the udevadm monitor output for an usb mass storage that shows up in dmesg but doesn't create any device. I had to deal with an emergency and my answer was proabably too late. If you still can help me with this, please find here the requested log: https://termbin.com/hmrx
 giaco: and what's in dmesg + lsusb?
 more details could help you get help
 udevadm monitor is useful to see how and whether a usb device is handled by the time you connect it.
 but so is dmesg -w    /    journalctl -f
[13:21] <tomreyn> giaco: looks like you missed those lines (which i posted after you posted the above) then
[13:21] <tomreyn> !logs
[13:22] <kristian_> tomreyn, no just tested again. back to disconnecting immediately.. this is the log: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/SwxRW48rts/
[13:23] <giaco> tomreyn: I'm sorry and you're right, thanks for the recap. I'll catch up with the required info
[13:24] <tomreyn> kristian_: hmm, is this the first occurrence? is there more blue* or hcl* related contextual output?
[13:24] <kristian_> that was everything in the last few minutes
[13:25] <tomreyn> kristian_: maybe try this (I do not know whether this may have any security implications): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1398367#c19
[13:28] <wyre> can I list the last installed packages?
[13:29] <kristian_> tomreyn, now I am getting this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HqSrXzh4nn/
[13:30] <tomreyn> kristian_: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-bluetooth/-/issues/70 suggests this is/was an error in gnome-bluetooth (exposed through gnome-control-center) and it was fixed just one month ago (but i'm not sure in versions exactly)
[13:31] <tomreyn> 'this' here referred to the gnome-bluetooth "Gnome bluetooth cant connect to bluetooth device on first attempt" issue.
[13:32] <tomreyn> ..and the "error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)" message
[13:32] <tomreyn> you still have this message now, so i assume it can still be the same issue.
[13:32] <giaco> tomreyn: this is dmesg https://termbin.com/obl5, this is journalctl https://termbin.com/i7bb
[13:33] <tomreyn> kristian_: give it a try on a 20.04 live iso
[13:33] <kristian_> tomreyn, thank you. considering the last mesage on that gitlab issue, how could I upgrade to the mentioned versions?
[13:33] <kristian_> tomreyn, I'll do that!
[13:36] <tomreyn> kristian_: you should not try to upgrade just the relevant gnome component, but, if the 20.04 test succeeds, should upgrade to that instead.
[13:36] <tomreyn> attempting to upgrade gnome but not other parts of the system is a recipe for desaster.
[13:36] <kristian_> Is it easy to upgrade to 20.04 and can I resize my main partition while upgrading? Also, any downsides regarding upgrading vs fresh install? I reckon a lot of the installed packages will act funny?
[13:36] <kristian_> tomreyn, ok - noted :)
[13:37] <tomreyn> giaco: does    lsusb    report    ID 090c:1000 Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan (formerly Feiya Technology Corp.) Flash Drive    ?
[13:38] <tomreyn> kristian_: upgrading your system is easy if you'Re in the supported domain (no unsupported third party packages / PPAs installed), otherwise you should take steps to prepare for it.
[13:40] <giaco> tomreyn: I do confirm that line in lsusb output
[13:40] <tomreyn> if you'd like to resize partitions, do it before or after upgrading. a fresh install would ensure that your system is setup with the defaults the latest ubuntu installer applies, but other than that a release upgrades usually should be fine. whenever you do such changes, and moreover generally, enaure you got complete, recent, proven restorable, backups.
[13:40] <tomreyn> kristian_: ^
[13:41] <giaco> I just tried to modprobe -r uas and modprobe -r usb_storage, after pluggin in the usb drive  I saw with dmesg that both the modules got autoloaded back
[13:41] <tomreyn> giaco: so it is detected but no storage device node is added for some reason, ok.
[13:41] <tomreyn> cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:42] <kristian_> tomreyn, ok thanks a lot. I'm creating the bootable stick now and will report back
[13:43] <giaco> tomreyn: apparently yes. Here's the content of /proc/scsi/usb-storage https://termbin.com/q8ff
[13:44] <tomreyn> giaco: can you remind me which ubuntu version and kernel version you're using?
[13:45] <tomreyn> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[13:46] <giaco> tomreyn: is an 20.04 that has not been updated for a while (spare machine, I can update if needed) https://termbin.com/e8vi
[13:46] <giaco> thanks for the easy-peasy log to termbin commands
[13:48] <tomreyn> giaco: for the future, it's a good idea to always install updates before asking questions here. please do so next, reboot, try again.
[13:48] <TJ-> giaco: tomreyn  to save you wasting time... there are MANY bugs in the uas storage driver between driver and chipsets, so most likely that may be the cause
[13:50] <tomreyn> TJ-: thanks. there are quirks applied for this device, and https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg194350.html has a report of this usb vid/pid working, just slowly. the usb controller chipset could be a problem, though, of course.
[13:50] <TJ-> giaco: tomreyn best quick solution is to blacklist uas so the usb mass-storage driver can handle the device, if a quirk won't do it (see modinfo -F parm usb-storage")
[13:50] <giaco> tomreyn: ok. I'm sorry for that, I was not expecting being on a driver problem situation. I'm performing update+reboot right now
[13:50] <TJ-> tomreyn: aha, you've ahead of me
[13:51] <TJ-> giaco: it's worth testing against a mainline kernel build
[13:51] <tomreyn> giaco: no worries. but yes, that's a good quick bet when you attach a device and tit doesn't become usable right away.
[13:51] <tomreyn> !mainline
[13:52] <tomreyn> but try with your 20.04 updates first of all
[13:53] <TJ-> I'm building v5.10 rc's to sidestep some of the uas issues
[13:54] <giaco> Thanks for the help. I'll try update+reboot first, then blacklist uas, then mainline. It could take more than a minute, this machine still runs OS on spinning disks
[14:01] <tomreyn> TJ-: hmm, so you're out of hope getting yours working on 5.4 and 5.8?
[14:01] <nuala> TJ-: quick feedback: your guide about LUKS installation is very informative. After a finite amount of typos it seems I have some success on the real hardware as well. (ubuntu boots, win10 fails; thats more like a completely success imho.... but money-boss has their own thoughts on that). anyhoo on a nutshell: thanks for all the documentation! :]
[14:01] <kristian_> tomreyn, this is what I get on 20.04 https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/kknsNNnbNS/ unfortunately not working out of the box
[14:03] <tomreyn> kristian_: can you disable wireless and try again?
[14:04] <tomreyn> just to rule out interference
[14:05] <giaco> just booted into 5.4.0-54-generic, but same problem as with previous 5.4.0-33-generic. Trying now with blacklist uas
[14:08] <tomreyn> giaco: try     sudo service bluetooth restart    then wait 5 seconds or more and try pairing again
[14:09] <TJ-> nuala: thought you meant *my* typos for a mo - there were a few initially :D
[14:10] <TJ-> nuala: Windows failed boot - was it OK before Ubuntu was installed? what changed? did the Windows NTFS file-systems have to be shrunk to make way?
[14:12] <tomreyn> giaco: sorry that last line wasnt for you ;)
[14:12] <giaco> tomreyn: I guess it was not for me :D
[14:12] <tomreyn> :)
[14:12] <tomreyn> kristian_: going this process may provide better error messages: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1225896/huawei-freebuds-3-pairing-with-ubuntu-18-04
[14:12] <giaco> I've added "blacklist uas" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but after reboot lsmod says it is there
[14:13] <tomreyn> giaco: hmm, maybe also boot with !bootparm    modprobe.blacklist=uas
[14:13] <tomreyn> !bootparm
[14:13] <tomreyn> !bootparam
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> kernelparm
[14:14] <tomreyn> thanks, i can never remember that.
[14:14] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[14:16] <tomreyn> giaco: maybe trying the mainline kernel is actually easier than trying to get this working.
[14:16] <giaco> tomreyn: maybe, but I'm halfway blacklist step, so let's go for it
[14:17] <nuala> TJ-: nuuuuuh not typos by you. Sorry for being misleading ^^
[14:17] <tomreyn> giaco, kristian_: i need to step away for a while (an hour?). for further assistence, please sum up the issues and our findings so far, add relevant commands and outputs, and seek assistence ehre from the various other volunteers.
[14:18] <giaco> tomreyn: thanks a lot for helping me out!
[14:18] <nuala> TJ-: re windows: ah dunno. maybe a made a bumb in it during my failed attempt before even asking here. don't think i've resized ntfs at all during the process. also no biggy: prolly use that rescue CD and then install ubuntu again, its not perfect yet but i'm getting the hang on it :)
[14:19] <tomreyn> you're welcome, giaco
[14:20] <giaco> blacklist option seems doing nothing different. uas is not loaded, but dmesg and journalcrl shows same output
[14:20] <giaco> it's time for mainline!
[14:27] <SynfulAck> How do you change your network adapter to use dhcp through a terminal? Thought there was an curses based program called nmtui.
[14:28] <SynfulAck> kinda seems like ubuntu docs are suggesting something different called netplan?
[14:34] <giaco> TJ-: which mainline kernel would you suggest me to try first? https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[14:49] <nunya_> I still haven't resolved the media keys not working during fullscreen games. Anybody willing to help?
[15:00] <nunya_>     
[15:04] <slyon> SynfulAck: via netplan.io you can define "dhcp4: true" or "dhcp6: true" (https://netplan.io/reference/#common-properties-for-all-device-types)
[15:06] <giaco> TJ-, tomreyn : running mainline 5.10.0-051000rc5-generic, but still no dev showing up
[15:27] <TJ-> giaco: can you show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -k; lsblk )"
[15:46] <sruli> Is there a easy way to use system title bar in flatpak app (using planner from flathub)
[16:01] <lalitmee> Hey guys, I am facing a little bit weird problem and that is when I lock my system and open lock again some of my configurations are not applying like I have remapped my Caps Lock to Escape, that is not there after opening my system again after locking. Somehow the repeat keys configuration is also being reset. I have noticed only these two configurations which are not working properly after locking.
[16:01] <giaco> TJ-: I've found out that if I leave the usb drive connected to mainlike kernel long enough, I finally get an error: usb 1-5: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[16:02] <giaco> *mainline
[16:11] <TJ-> giaco: #define ETIMEDOUT       110
[16:40] <BugHunter1000> Hey guys, I was just noticing that Debian has a lot of unfixed security bugs.  Do we do anything on Ubuntu to address those?
[16:41] <TJ-> BugHunter1000: you'd have to specify
[16:49] <BugHunter1000> TJ- You can run "debsecan" - it lists hundreds of problems on a base install of Debian.
[16:49] <BugHunter1000> I can't enumerate hundreds of vulns for you though
[16:52] <eater9> For some reason CPU-intensive tasks like playing video or Zoom audio are suddenly dragging and lagging and being terrible on my powerful laptop running Bionic, which has been fine till recently. Nothing seems to be hogging CPU according to top -- any suggestons on how to troubleshoot?.
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> eater9: what graphics card/driver are you using?
[16:55] <cemerick> using 20.04, my trackpad is constantly losing its click settings, e.g. two-finger click for right-click, three-finger click for middle-click. The workaround atm is to keep toggling the relevant settings in tweaks
[16:55] <cemerick> where can I set this preference once, permanently?
[16:56] <eater9> lotuspsychje:  Intel 620, i915
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> eater9: i assume you are using zoom-client snap?
[16:58] <TJ-> BugHunter1000: I meant, a vulnerability to check on Ubuntu
[16:59] <eater9> lotuspsychje: I have tried the snap and the deb and the in-browser version; as soon as I unmute my mic, everyone on the meeting hears weird glitches that I think are Zoom's echo rejection failing
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> eater9: glitches on their end is something different then lags on your own system, do you have lags on all 3 methods the same?
[17:01] <BugHunter1000> TJ- this isn't a question of one particular vuln, i've already installed Ubuntu in a fresh vm and verified that my concern is reproducible, I'm really just speaking of "process" in the pipeline
[17:02] <BugHunter1000> personally i would not be comfortable using Debian as a base at this point at all if there wasn't something to mitigate their slow security patching
[17:02] <BugHunter1000> that's just me
[17:02] <eater9> lotuspsychje: yes, all three the same, but the worst *lagging* is when I watch a video from my HD (on mpv or parole), the audio and the video get progressively out of sync
[17:03] <eater9> lotuspsychje: The main problem with zoom is the audio glitches on their end when I unmute
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> eater9: can you try running a; journalctl -f and reproduce the lags, meanwhile share your dmesg with the volunteers?
[17:03] <eater9> lotuspsychje: will do
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ogra: are you aware of known lag issues on zoom-client snap?
[17:07] <ogra> lotuspsychje, not really
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx ogra
[17:07] <eater9> lotuspsychje: aha, it's full of kernel: CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled
[17:07] <ogra> aha 🙂
[17:08] <ogra> lotuspsychje, though i heard there might be UI lag on some fractional scaled desktops ... but only for the UI itself, not for streams/chats/meetings (in case such a thing comes up here)
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ogra: allright, nice to know
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> eater9: feel free to share dmesg/journal in a paste, volunteers might have ideas
[17:11] <eater9> here's the journal http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PSX9DshgDb/
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> eater9: you having the throttle before using zoom aswell?
[17:13] <eater9> lotuspsychje: that journal is just from smplayer just now, no zoom
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> ok
[17:14] <eater9> lotuspsychje: I don't have anyone to zoom with so i can't log that till later
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> intel 620 should be able to handle things properly normally
[17:15] <eater9> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9XWDcSJKVd/
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> lets have a look
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> eater9: yeah thats a lot of throttle in there
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> eater9: you have the first part of dmesg output aswell, kernel and mobo info etc?
[17:20] <eater9> lotuspsychje: that's the whole output of dmesg | pastebinit
[17:20] <ogra> eater9, when did you reboot that thing the last time (seems there are quite a few suspend/resume cycles in that log)
[17:20] <eater9> up 15 days
[17:23] <sarnold> argh. The advice I gave two people yesterday to "sudo apt install grub-pc- grub-efi-amd64" was apparently The Wrong Thing To Do :( -- the desired state is apparently to have grub-pc and shim-signed installed -- my laptop is not the gold standard booting configuration I thought it was.
[17:25] <xtao> well as i said yesterday. my laptop is a clean install of 20.10 with apt update/upgrade since then and i have both grub-pc and grub-efi-amd64 installed
[17:25] <xtao> i don't have any issue though, it was somebody else with the issue
[17:28] <tomreyn> eater9: you should reboot more often, at least when you suspend in between.
[17:28] <tomreyn> eater9: there are many systems where suspend does not work as well as it should.
[17:31] <eater9> tomreyn: interesting ... what are the symptoms of suspend not working well?
[17:32] <eater9> tomreyn: I have been using this machine like this for a couple years and the CPU problems are brand new as of last week, for what it's worth
[17:32] <tomreyn> eater9: this varies widely. it can be that a certain device is no longer working reliably, or not at all, or anything related to power management is not working as stable as it did previousl
[17:32] <tomreyn> y
[17:33] <tomreyn> eater9: by "cpu problems" you are referring to cpu throttling?
[17:33] <eater9> tomreyn: my GF shuts down her laptop every night and I tease her about how that's not actually necessary but oh dear the shoe's on the other foot I guess now
[17:34] <eater9> tomreyn: yes, i don't know if throttling is the cause or the symptom, but that seems to be what's happening in the logs
[17:34] <tomreyn> eater9: maybe the system is just dusty, and maybe the throttling just happens as extensively when you return from suspend.
[17:35] <tomreyn> testing the later will be easier than the former.
[17:35] <ogra> eater9, well, have you ever checked your fan ? i tend to have to pull out a block of filth at  the fan intake every year from mine ...
[17:35] <tomreyn> i.e, do a fresh boot, use the system normally for a while, post a log.
[17:36] <ogra> temp monitoring got more sensitive between xenial and bionic too ...
[17:36] <ogra> (in the kernel that is)
[17:36] <eater9> yeah, i take off the back and vacuum it out every couple months because i have cats
[17:37] <eater9> I am going to reboot now and see how it goes, wish me luck
[17:51] <eater9> I rebooted and started playing a video and still throttling http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SndYTz3dck/
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> eater9: kernel 4.19?
[17:55] <eater9> lotuspsychje: 4.19.26-041926-generic #201902270533 SMP
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> eater9: was there a specific reason you installed that kernel?
[17:56] <eater9> lotuspsychje: hmmmm i bet there was a reason but i don't remember at all
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> eater9: you might wanna boot bionics default kernel, then try again if you can reproduce your issue(s)
[18:00] <eater9> lotuspsychje: not sure if the default kernel is even installed; remind me how to check?
[18:01] <tomreyn> eater9: even if there *was* a specific reasoin you installed this kernel (which got no security and bug fixes since february last year), you should not be running it now.
[18:01] <tomreyn> eater9: apt list --installed linux-*
[18:01] <eater9> tomreyn: i was probably trying to fix some issues I was having last year which wound up being a bad HD
[18:03] <tomreyn> i see. just be aware that mainline builds don't get updates, aren't supported. it's ok to use them for testing, but you shouldn't stick to one.
[18:05] <eater9> tomreyn: thanks! going to boot into default now
[18:14] <kristian_> tomreyn, I'll try again and be back. Thanks a lot for your help!
[18:18] <eater9> Rebooted into 4.15 and still the same http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfDVKMh3DB
[18:18] <tomreyn> kristian_: you're welcome
[18:21] <jayjo-> I'm looking at the contents of the desktop iso here: https://releases.ubuntu.com/groovy/ubuntu-20.10-desktop-amd64.iso mounted via a loop device, is casper/filesystem.squashfs the actual live cd contents? casper/initrd and casper/vmlinuz along with the boot material (EFI/ or boot/ directory) should be enough to get going from the disk, but I'm confused on 3 remaining directories. 1. empty install/ dir, 2.
[18:21] <jayjo-> dists/, and 3. pool/ ? Are only certain things installed into the squashfs and the pool is for optional packages?
[18:21] <jayjo-> s/disk/disc
[18:27] <jayjo-> oh, are pool/ and dists/ because the CD *is* a debian repository?
[18:28] <tomreyn> eater9: you have uefi version 1.44 (N1MET59W), the curent one is 1.49 (N1MET64W)
[18:29] <tomreyn> https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/uk/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x1-carbon-type-20hr-20hq/20hq/20hqs5/downloads/driver-list/component?name=BIOS%2FUEFI
[18:30] <tomreyn> of the four laster releases, each includes security fixes
[18:30] <tomreyn> * later
[18:31] <tomreyn> eater9: now that's a side note, i'm not saying this has to be what's causing this situation.
[18:32] <eater9> tomreyn: good catch, updating that
[18:37] <mrkewl20> hey guys, just installed fresh ubuntu 20.04 on my laptop and fans do not seem to be working well, the laptop model is asus rog gl553vd. ive tried using https://github.com/dominiksalvet/asus-fan-control and it made the fan go from being silent to turning on a bit every x seconds then going back silent, temps do indeed raise up from like 40c to 70c
[18:37] <mrkewl20> and psensor shows that fan is indeed running and switching rpm but it feels like it cant know when to stay on x rpm to make sure temps are okay
[18:38] <mrkewl20> any ideas? help is appreciated im a bit worried lol
[18:43] <bdiddy> 70c isn't all that hot really
[18:43] <bdiddy> you sure it's not working fine?
[18:43] <mrkewl20> it is not hot but unusual for my device as it should be idling at least 40-50c
[18:44] <mrkewl20> the fan seems to not be working properly at least it turns on after x seconds then stops again
[18:45] <bdiddy> was it working prior to ubuntu 20.04?
[18:45] <mrkewl20> well after i clean installed no it wasnt spinning at all
[18:45] <mrkewl20> was just "turned off"
[18:46] <bdiddy> check in the bios if i recall correctly ASUS has some kinda fan control system in that
[18:46] <bdiddy> maybe it's turned off
[18:46] <bdiddy> i have a ROG but it's not with me
[18:46] <mrkewl20> yeah in bios it worked fine
[18:46] <mrkewl20> i was charging the device too and was 3600rpm around 50c
[18:47] <bdiddy> did you try the GUI with that asus-fan-control?
[18:48] <bdiddy> maybe just need to tweak the settings more
[18:49] <mrkewl20> i did not but as stated in that github it should work fine on its own but for some reason it really doesnt
[18:49] <mrkewl20> do you think i should install some default stuff that is needed for fans to work properly?
[18:49] <mrkewl20> or anything you can think of?
[18:49] <bdiddy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[18:50] <bdiddy> check that thread
[18:50] <bdiddy> seems quite a bit of tweaking you can do
[18:50] <bdiddy> probably just have one of those laptops that requires it
[18:50] <mrkewl20> so fancontrol should work fine?
[18:50] <bdiddy> shoudl i'd imagine
[18:51] <bdiddy> if you can control the fans you can fix the problem just have to play with it
[18:51] <mrkewl20> ill give it a try
[20:02] <Kraus> Okay.. I may have a problem, but I may not. "grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: Operation not permitted." After sitting there for a while, it went to the pink "gui" screen, warned me if I don't upgrade grub, my computer won't boot properly. The only thing I can think of to fix this is to attempt to retry the installation, but how do I do that?
[20:03] <BlueEagle> Kraus: Is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1872212
[20:04] <Kraus> It's always worked fine until now. I think what might have happened is perhaps the /boot flash drive wasn't mounted. Not sure, but I re-mounted it, and it's accessible now, so maybe it will work again if I retry.
[20:05] <Kraus> Ah! I could be. Not sure how I would confirm that.
[20:05] <Kraus> *It
[20:05] <sarnold> it's usually a firmware bug
[20:05] <sarnold> you could try upgrading your bios
[20:05] <EriC^^> Kraus: can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' ?
[20:07] <Kraus> The whole thing or just for /sdb?
[20:07] <Kraus> sdb1 is what's failing.
[20:07] <EriC^^> Kraus: the disk that has the ubuntu install
[20:08] <EriC^^> Kraus: what exactly is the issue, you were installing ubuntu and got this error or already installed and it updated grub and you got it?
[20:08] <Kraus> I ran sudo apt upgrade -y :) That's all.
[20:09] <EriC^^> ah ok, you should be good then to reboot, the uefi entry should still be in the motherboard saved, and the efi file in the efi partition
[20:09] <EriC^^> Kraus: if you want to confirm, type 'sudo efibootmgr -v' and look for the ubuntu entry, and 'ls -lR /boot/efi' and look for the file it points to there
[20:12] <Kraus> EriC^^: "Boot0000* ubuntu" is pointing to "/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)", and ls is showing it's in there, so yeah...
[20:12] <Kraus> Alright um... cross our fingers? :)
[20:13] <EriC^^> there's no suspense really
[20:13] <EriC^^> the error probably was in the last part of grub-install where it modifies the uefi list, and your uefi firmware is being stingy or something
[20:14]  * Kraus nodnodnods..
[20:14] <EriC^^> doesnt really affect you though, as long as it points to shim in the future, and those shim files will get updated fine, so no worries
[20:14] <Kraus> There's suspense for those who are unawares ;) Alfred Hitchcock already knows what the audience is freaking out over. ;)
[20:15] <EriC^^> yeah that's understandable i guess, but now you know how it works ;)
[20:15] <Kraus> Alright, let's see how this goes.. brb.
[20:15] <EriC^^> alright :)
[20:16] <TJ-> is that the 2nd "operation not permitted" we've had in 2 days? is there something changed in the EFI bits to cause this?
[20:16] <EriC^^> maybe some firmware update and now that grub got updated the errors are coming?
[20:17] <TJ-> I'm wondering if the kernel efivars is an issue
[20:17] <TJ-> I couldn't see anything in the issue I looked at that would point at either grub-install or efibootmgr
[20:18] <TJ-> it can be reproduced with efibootmgr alone
[20:20] <Kraus> EriC^^: Rebooted just fine! All's well! I send you virtual coffee and donuts in appreciation. ^_^
[20:20] <EriC^^> ah great, ty :D
[20:21]  * Kraus makes sure to spray them down with virtual disinfectant beforehand.
[20:22] <EriC^^> xD
[20:22] <Kraus> (Gives them that extra zing)
[20:22] <EriC^^> haha
[20:22] <Kraus> TJ-: Is there anything I can do to check if there was a firmware change or something?
[20:23] <Kraus> My mobo is a 2019 model MSI, so it's pretty darn up to date I would think.
[20:23] <TJ-> Kraus: if you are very luck the firmware publisher/mobo maker might have a changelog
[20:24] <Kraus> Looks like a new firmware was just released on the 13th of this month.
[20:25] <Kraus> And the 4th before that.
[20:25] <Kraus> Ahh, the 13th version is a beta, and the 4th version is a patch. "Updated AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.1.0.0 Patch C"
[20:27] <Kraus> This might sound like a stupid newbie question, but do motherboard firmwares auto-update these days or does one still have to manually flash it while in BIOS?
[20:28] <EriC^^> Kraus: ubuntu has an update manager, fwupd
[20:28] <TJ-> Kraus: there is a Linux firmware upgrader but the mobo makers have to cooperate for that to be used
[20:28] <Kraus> It's an MSI x570 board so... maybe?
[20:29] <EriC^^> if you didn't manually update it and run no other os, then ubuntu probably updated it for you
[20:29] <Kraus> What I'm wondering is if I update the firmware (if the firmware is indeed the problem), it will solve it.
[20:29] <Kraus> No other OS. Just Ubuntu Studio.
[20:30] <Kraus> Hm! Maybe if I just reboot, I'll check which version I'm currently on.
[20:30] <EriC^^> Kraus: you could try fwupdmgr refresh; fwupdmgr get-updates
[20:30] <EriC^^> it should list the updates available
[20:32] <TJ-> Kraus: you can get the firmware version from DMI; easiest usually is "journalctl -k | grep DMI:"
[20:32] <Kraus> Hmmm...
[20:33] <Kraus> It's showing "no available updates" but the only two devices on the list are my M.2s
[20:33] <TJ-> Kraus: so you'd have to download and apply them manually, using the mobo provided method
[20:35] <ioria> and maybe keep /boot mounted when you upgrade
[20:38] <Kraus> Yeah I don't know if it was or wasn't mounted. I THOUGHT it might be not mounted so I tried remounting it. I can't confirm that was the problem though.
[21:13] <SrPx> I've just reseted my Dell XPS 13, developer edition (Ubuntu OS) to factory settings. I had sensitive information stored on that notebook (including private keys). It wasn't encrypted. What do I need to do before selling it, in order to make sure nobody has access to that information?
[21:14] <sarnold> SrPx: I'd overwrite the entire drive with /dev/urandom first
[21:14] <sarnold> SrPx: another option is to pull the drive out and put in a brand new blank drive
[21:14] <SrPx> what exactly is the command to do that? do I just pipe from /dev/urandom to a file? it will probably crash my computer though
[21:17] <sarnold> SrPx: it depends upon the drive, but yeah, it'd be something like (will destroy the filesystem on the disk) sudo dd if=/dev/uranomd of=/dev/sda bs=4096   replacing of=... with whatever device your disk is
[21:18] <sarnold> chances are good the command will run to completion but you'd probably not be able to do anything at all useful shortly after it stars
[21:18] <sarnold> there's a DBAN linux distro that exists just to destroy filesystems -- but I"m not sure if it writes zeros, or if it writes random, and you'd want to make sure you're writing random
[21:19] <sarnold> you can do another pass with zeros afterwards if you want, but the idea is to write something that the drive firmware can't compress
[21:19] <SrPx> sarnold: but where do I type that from? I need a flash USB to boot a OS and do it? Since I presume I can't do that from the installed OS
[21:20] <sarnold> SrPx: yeah, I'm not 100% sure if you'd have to do that from a new boot or not
[21:20] <sarnold> SrPx: but if you're destroying the machine anyway, give it a shot and see what happens ;)
[21:20] <SrPx> hmm okay
[21:24] <EriC^^> SrPx: just boot a live usb and have at it using /dev/urandom
[21:24] <SrPx> yep, just wondering if I can do it without a live usb (which I don't have), but I think I found an usb lying around here so let's do it (:
[21:25] <SrPx> sad to sell this xps 13, I really hoped to love it
[21:25] <sarnold> aww
[21:29] <SrPx> hm quick question, i have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[21:29] <SrPx> how do I know which one is my hd?
[21:29] <EriC^^> SrPx: 1 and 2 are partitions, you want to nuke /dev/sda
[21:29] <SrPx> ok ty
[21:30] <BlueEagle> SrPx: /dev/sda is the disc. /dev/sda1 is your first primary partition, while /dev/sda2 is your second primary pratition. Also `sudo fdisk -l`
[21:31] <SrPx> Thanks! So, `sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of/dev/sda bs=1M` is just hanging. How can I see some kind of progress?
[21:33] <sarnold> oh man :( I wish I'd thought of that first. there's a status=progress option for dd, but, uh, now that it's running, you probably can't do that now..
[21:34] <SrPx> it is ok, just started it over
[21:34] <SrPx> perfect
[21:34] <SrPx> will leave it overnight
[21:34] <SrPx> thanks all!
[21:35] <neorpheus> couple quick questions for yall geniuses. is there an easy way to find out what graphics driver an ubuntu system is running? and does anyone know if the nvidia proprietary driver/noveau support audio out over hdmi?
[21:35]  * SrPx actually *believes* the HD was encrypted but you can't be safe enough right
[21:36] <sarnold> SrPx: woot :)
[21:37] <FuZi0N>  How can I monitor the external IP connections for everything connected to local port 5572 on Ubuntu Server 18.04? I tried using glances and track but there was too much noise and it wouldn't let me filter by source port...
[21:37] <sarnold> FuZi0N: what's your goal?
[21:37] <FuZi0N> To see which IP address outgoing connections are being made to
[21:42] <neorpheus> ok so i just learned about this command "lshw". i take it from the "configuration" line that im runnin gthe Nvidia driver. is that correct?
[21:42] <neorpheus> https://pastebin.com/xRKKm8fy
[21:46] <sarnold> FuZi0N: maybe ss -o state established '( dport = :ssh or sport = :ssh )' -p  ?
[21:49] <FuZi0N> sarnold: the output seems to be missing connections
[21:51] <sarnold> FuZi0N: hmm.. .compare against ss -ntp and see what's different?
[21:53] <neorpheus> well thats odd. after running lspci the nvidia hdmi output appeared in the sound options. now sure that fixed anything but it seems to be working now
[22:06] <BlueEagle> neorpheus: My guess is that lshw and/or lspci would load modules as they found hardware? If you reboot and the sound is not there do a lsmod before and after lswh or lspci and see if anything has been added.
[22:07] <neorpheus> i will try that in a few minutes here. need to check a few other things first
[22:07] <jeremy31> BlueEagle: lspci  has no effect on what is loaded
[22:09] <neorpheus> jeremy31, should i not bother with the reboot/lsmod then?
[22:09] <jeremy31> neorpheus: unless you installed a driver
[22:09] <neorpheus> no i have not installed anything new
[22:11] <jeremy31> neorpheus: If you had issues with an nVidia driver, a reboot may have been needed and/or Secure Boot disabled
[22:15] <Auctus> when i boot this ubuntu server, it shows me some startup stuff, but to get to the terminal i have to press ctrl+alt+f1
[22:15] <Auctus> i wonder if i can do that over ssh somehow, so i can change whats on the monitor
[22:16] <Auctus> dont know what to google to figure out how to do that
[22:24] <aldcor> hey guys! So, I can't install stuff cause I got unmet dependencies. How to fix this? https://pastebin.com/0McgZYzQ
[22:24] <small-data> Yesterday a grub update to 2.04-1ubuntu26.7 caused errors during installation. Since then, the grub-install command fails. Wondering if anyone has information about this issue.
[22:24] <aldcor> also I can't install those dependencies
[22:25] <sarnold> small-data: the other folks who've come in recently with that problem all had firmware issues that appear to prevent changing efi boot commands.. are you getting the Operation not permitted error?
[22:25] <jeremy31> aldcor: did you add a PPA
[22:25] <aldcor> alright fixed
[22:25] <aldcor> i did -f
[22:26] <small-data> sarnold: Yes I am. There have been previous successful grub updates on this machine though.
[22:26] <sarnold> small-data: that's definitely part of the confusion, is that the other folks also had their boot entries already set correctly. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense..
[22:28] <small-data> sarnold: at least one other, older machine here did not have the issue
[22:28] <sarnold> small-data: depending upon howmuch older, it may be using bios boot rather than uefi
[22:28] <sarnold> small-data: does efibootmgr -v
[22:28] <sarnold> ... look good, if you're using uefi booting?
[22:28] <small-data> sarnold: both are uefi machines
[22:29] <sarnold> small-data: aha
[22:30] <small-data> sarnold: here is efibootmgr from the machine that had the failure: https://dpaste.com/DJJHCWSTK
[22:30] <sarnold> small-data: are there any options in the failing system's bios along the lines of "prevent boot record viruses" or "lock boot records" or similar? any chance you're dual booting? at least one of the others had windows dualbooting set up..
[22:30] <small-data> sarnold: it's a single boot machine, bios has CSM enabled.
[22:30] <sarnold> looks like no windows, dang I kinda liked that .. well, not theory, but grasping at straws :)
[22:31] <sarnold> hmmmm I wonder if that's it
[22:31] <small-data> funny thing, I tried disabling CSM, and after a reboot, it's still enabled.
[22:32] <sarnold> so strange
[22:33] <small-data> bios is fairly recent but there is an update available, maybe I'll try that
[22:34] <jeremy31> small-data: The UEFI might have gotten locked up to changes, happened a few years ago too with a certain kernel, 4.10?
[22:34] <small-data> jeremy31: how might I check/fix that?
[22:35] <small-data> in the bios?
[22:35] <jeremy31> small-data: If no change gets saved in BIOS even after a save and exit, there is a chance
[22:36] <small-data> jeremy31: aha. I will have another look. So that would be some setting in the bios, yes?
[22:36] <jeremy31> small-data: If a BIOS update doesn't help you might have to file a bug report.  The issue from 3 years ago was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147
[22:38] <sarnold> jeremy31: oh wow, I forgot that mess
[22:38] <small-data> looks ugly all right
[22:40] <small-data> thanks folks, I'll play some more and report back later
[22:41] <geosmile> In /etc/apt/sources....do i need to change pgdg.list.distUpgrade or pgdg.list.save as well? when i move pgdg.list from xenial to bionic?
[22:41] <geosmile> or are those two autogenerated files?
[22:41] <sarnold> geosmile: if you're upgrading from xenial to bionic, just run do-release-upgrade
[23:16] <imi> hi
[23:17] <imi> https://ibb.co/cwCxTgS -- is there any similarly looking world clock app under linux (or optionally on the web)?
[23:18] <sarnold> imi: very handy https://www.timeanddate.com/
[23:18] <imi> sarnold: ok how can I make this look like the map I posted above?
[23:19] <sarnold> imi: how's this do? https://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
[23:20] <imi> close enough, thank you
[23:29] <Armendz> can't install ubuntu on Ideapad
[23:29] <Armendz> i get, AMD Vi : Unable to write to IOMMU
[23:30] <jeremy31> Armendz: any option in BIOS to disable IOMMU?
[23:30] <Armendz> no
[23:30] <Armendz> i dont have a "advanced Tab"
[23:30] <Armendz> on bios
[23:33] <sarnold> Armendz: try iommu=soft, iommu=force, iommu=off  at the kernel command line, perhaps one will let you boot
[23:33] <sarnold> Armendz: there's a *lot* of options at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/x86/x86_64/boot-options.txt