| lubot | <ecsamrl> @Dan58 [<Dan58> anyone can help here?], but how do you need help? | 01:01 |
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| kc2bez | @ecsamrl They didn't wait around for an answer. | 01:03 |
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| furrykef | I'm not getting any sound. alsamixer seems to detect both my HDA Intel PCH and my Radeon's HDMI, but in PulseAudio I only see "HDMI / DisplayPort". | 03:08 |
| furrykef | I played around with the volume levels and muting in alsamixer. The only thing I accomplished was getting my mic to play back through my headphones. | 03:08 |
| furrykef | Hmm, I think this profile is associated with the correct device. But then why am I not getting any sound? | 03:24 |
| furrykef | I'ma just reboot and see if anythin' changes... | 03:51 |
| furrykef | Rebooting fixed it. Dunno why. | 04:12 |
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| akem | Hoi. | 09:22 |
| merribob | hi all | 10:54 |
| merribob | does anyone know if the http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/dists/xenial package repo has been decommissioned recently? | 10:54 |
| merribob | i couldn't see anything in the mailing list but now (as of the past couple of days) just get 403s | 10:54 |
| guiverc2 | merribob, Lubuntu 16.04 reached EOL on April 2019 (3 years from release; only main Ubuntu desktop/server has 5 years) | 10:56 |
| merribob | yes, we need to upgrade :D but we have a dependency on that ppa that's just started failing this week, wondered if i could pin down the specific reason | 10:57 |
| merribob | guessing this is going to speed up our migration (which is good!) | 10:57 |
| guiverc2 | merribob, yeah the PPA has been disabled, I don't recall the specifics (recall mention of it here on irc) but it had nothing for supported releases from what I can see | 11:05 |
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| merribob | ok, thanks :) | 11:15 |
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| lubot | <heysoundude> Hello - I am Getting notified of updates being available, but when I click to make it happen, one of them fails. | 16:05 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> So I try apt update in terminal, and that hangs and gives me an error message with an IP address that fails or something. Would it help to screenshot and attach it? | 16:07 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> (Photo, 960x1280) https://i.imgur.com/6GNyJz5.jpg Odd that an ubuntu server would fail | 16:20 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> And more odd that none of the ubuntu servers are https. | 16:21 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Anyone? Bueller? | 16:30 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It looks like an issue with the local mirror. | 16:43 |
| lubot | <Michaël Van Bogaert> so a solution could be to try an other server? | 16:49 |
| lubot | <Michaël Van Bogaert> the http question ... | 16:49 |
| lubot | <Michaël Van Bogaert> I'm curious about it … how come we use http instead of https? | 16:50 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Why do you need https for the package download? | 16:51 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Why wouldn’t you? | 16:53 |
| apt-ghetto | HTTPS is a transport encryption, but the packages are open source, well-known. There is nothing to hide. | 16:53 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @kc2bez [It looks like an issue with the local mirror.], How do I try a different one? | 16:53 |
| apt-ghetto | And apt has its own integrity check, the packages are signed. | 16:54 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> HTTPS is a transport encryption, but the packages are open source, …], Security is about more than obfuscation. | 16:54 |
| apt-ghetto | Well, then tell me a good reason to use it | 16:55 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> And apt has its own integrity check, the packages are signed.], Signed packages seem...antiquated and inefficient. | 16:55 |
| apt-ghetto | Good that http is more efficient than https | 16:56 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Well, then tell me a good reason to use it], I wasn’t meaning to get your knickers (assuming you’re wearing them) knotting | 16:56 |
| lubot | <N0um3n0> @heysoundude [Signed packages seem...antiquated and inefficient.], Why? | 16:57 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Well, you have to deliberately check a hash. I would think that you can have some better feeling of trust over https | 16:59 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @heysoundude [How do I try a different one?], If you open "software Sources" from the menu -> Preferences you can change the "Download From:" to the main server. | 16:59 |
| apt-ghetto | Checking a hash is a check for integrity, whereas encryption is used to guarantee confidentiality. These are two completely different things. | 17:00 |
| lubot | <N0um3n0> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Checking a hash is a check for integrity, whereas encryption is use …], Correct | 17:00 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @kc2bez [If you open "software Sources" from the menu -> Preferences you can change the " …], Thank you. It’s working now | 17:00 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @heysoundude [Thank you. It’s working now], Happy to help. | 17:01 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> And it seems faster than the Canadian mirror I had been using. | 17:01 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> That is contrary to the idea of using a local mirror but I am glad it improved things. | 17:02 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> @kc2bez [That is contrary to the idea of using a local mirror but I am glad it improved t …], Right? I’m about 7ms from one of the biggest datacenters that basically everything here live at or goes through. My own ISP included | 17:03 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Lives at* | 17:03 |
| apt-ghetto | I can give you an example, when I needed to use https for apt: the firewall was blocking packages for Kali Linux. After using https, I was able to update my Kali without problems. | 17:08 |
| apt-ghetto | You can simply change the protocol in /etc/apt/sources.list from http to https and then it will use https or you can install apt-transport-https | 17:10 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Hmmm...I might just do that. | 17:14 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> Both of those. | 17:14 |
| lubot | <Michaël Van Bogaert> @aptghetto … thanks for the explaination … My question is answered | 17:17 |
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