[01:01] <lubot> <ecsamrl> @Dan58 [<Dan58> anyone can help here?], but how do you need help?
[01:03] <kc2bez> @ecsamrl They didn't wait around for an answer.
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[03:08] <furrykef> I'm not getting any sound. alsamixer seems to detect both my HDA Intel PCH and my Radeon's HDMI, but in PulseAudio I only see "HDMI / DisplayPort".
[03:08] <furrykef> I played around with the volume levels and muting in alsamixer. The only thing I accomplished was getting my mic to play back through my headphones.
[03:24] <furrykef> Hmm, I think this profile is associated with the correct device. But then why am I not getting any sound?
[03:51] <furrykef> I'ma just reboot and see if anythin' changes...
[04:12] <furrykef> Rebooting fixed it. Dunno why.
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[09:22] <akem> Hoi.
[10:54] <merribob> hi all
[10:54] <merribob> does anyone know if the http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/dists/xenial package repo has been decommissioned recently?
[10:54] <merribob> i couldn't see anything in the mailing list but now (as of the past couple of days) just get 403s
[10:56] <guiverc2> merribob, Lubuntu 16.04 reached EOL on April 2019 (3 years from release; only main Ubuntu desktop/server has 5 years)
[10:57] <merribob> yes, we need to upgrade :D  but we have a dependency on that ppa that's just started failing this week, wondered if i could pin down the specific reason
[10:57] <merribob> guessing this is going to speed up our migration (which is good!)
[11:05] <guiverc2> merribob, yeah the PPA has been disabled, I don't recall the specifics (recall mention of it here on irc)  but it had nothing for supported releases from what I can see
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[11:15] <merribob> ok, thanks :)
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[16:05] <lubot> <heysoundude> Hello - I am Getting notified of updates being available, but when I click to make it happen, one of them fails.
[16:07] <lubot> <heysoundude> So I try apt update in terminal, and that hangs and gives me an error message with an IP address that fails or something. Would it help to screenshot and attach it?
[16:20] <lubot> <heysoundude> (Photo, 960x1280) https://i.imgur.com/6GNyJz5.jpg Odd that an ubuntu server would fail
[16:21] <lubot> <heysoundude> And more odd that none of the ubuntu servers are https.
[16:30] <lubot> <heysoundude> Anyone?  Bueller?
[16:43] <lubot> <kc2bez> It looks like an issue with the local mirror.
[16:49] <lubot> <Michaël Van Bogaert> so a solution could be to try an other server?
[16:49] <lubot> <Michaël Van Bogaert> the http question ...
[16:50] <lubot> <Michaël Van Bogaert> I'm curious about it … how come we use http instead of https?
[16:51] <lubot> <aptghetto> Why do you need https for the package download?
[16:53] <lubot> <heysoundude> Why wouldn’t you?
[16:53] <apt-ghetto> HTTPS is a transport encryption, but the packages are open source, well-known. There is nothing to hide.
[16:53] <lubot> <heysoundude> @kc2bez [It looks like an issue with the local mirror.], How do I try a different one?
[16:54] <apt-ghetto> And apt has its own integrity check, the packages are signed.
[16:54] <lubot> <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> HTTPS is a transport encryption, but the packages are open source, …], Security is about more than obfuscation.
[16:55] <apt-ghetto> Well, then tell me a good reason to use it
[16:55] <lubot> <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> And apt has its own integrity check, the packages are signed.], Signed packages seem...antiquated and inefficient.
[16:56] <apt-ghetto> Good that http is more efficient than https
[16:56] <lubot> <heysoundude> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Well, then tell me a good reason to use it], I wasn’t meaning to get your knickers (assuming you’re wearing them) knotting
[16:57] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @heysoundude [Signed packages seem...antiquated and inefficient.], Why?
[16:59] <lubot> <heysoundude> Well, you have to deliberately check a hash. I would think that you can have some better feeling of trust over https
[16:59] <lubot> <kc2bez> @heysoundude [How do I try a different one?], If you open "software Sources" from the menu -> Preferences you can change the "Download From:" to the main server.
[17:00] <apt-ghetto> Checking a hash is a check for integrity, whereas encryption is used to guarantee confidentiality. These are two completely different things.
[17:00] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Checking a hash is a check for integrity, whereas encryption is use …], Correct
[17:00] <lubot> <heysoundude> @kc2bez [If you open "software Sources" from the menu -> Preferences you can change the " …], Thank you. It’s working now
[17:01] <lubot> <kc2bez> @heysoundude [Thank you. It’s working now], Happy to help.
[17:01] <lubot> <heysoundude> And it seems faster than the Canadian mirror I had been using.
[17:02] <lubot> <kc2bez> That is contrary to the idea of using a local mirror but I am glad it improved things.
[17:03] <lubot> <heysoundude> @kc2bez [That is contrary to the idea of using a local mirror but I am glad it improved t …], Right?  I’m about 7ms from one of the biggest datacenters that basically everything here live at or goes through. My own ISP included
[17:03] <lubot> <heysoundude> Lives at*
[17:08] <apt-ghetto> I can give you an example, when I needed to use https for apt: the firewall was blocking packages for Kali Linux. After using https, I was able to update my Kali without problems.
[17:10] <apt-ghetto> You can simply change the protocol in /etc/apt/sources.list from http to https and then it will use https or you can install apt-transport-https
[17:14] <lubot> <heysoundude> Hmmm...I might just do that.
[17:14] <lubot> <heysoundude> Both of those.
[17:17] <lubot> <Michaël Van Bogaert> @aptghetto  … thanks for the explaination  … My question is answered
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