[11:02] <bthomas> Chipaca: Very busy ? Do you have a couple of mins for a quick 1:1 open ended chat regarding library for relations ?
[11:02] <Chipaca> bthomas: in 10?
[11:03] <bthomas> thanks ping me when you are ready
[11:12] <Chipaca> bthomas: https://meet.google.com/fqw-mdqc-dsf?authuser=1
[11:13] <bthomas> Chipaca: going
[11:20] <Chipaca> bthomas: i don't know what's going on but i only get noise
[11:20] <Chipaca> i know you're talking because it's either noisy, or silent
[11:20] <Chipaca> dunno if it's your network or mine but something is unhappy
[11:21] <bthomas> Chipaca: Checking my ISP latency dashboard latencies are 10-15 ms
[11:22] <Chipaca> average latency during our call was 5ms here
[11:22] <Chipaca> max 17
[13:06] <bthomas> Chipaca: If we provide clients a module for interacting with Charms outside operator framework, which Python process do we expect this module to run in. Any thoughts ?
[13:07] <bthomas> Or rather I should have phrased it as, can we expect the external module will be able to import code from the Charm ?
[13:07] <Chipaca> bthomas: sorry, i don't understand your question
[13:08] <Chipaca> bthomas: i think the answer is yes, or maybe mu
[13:08] <bthomas> ok thank you
[13:08] <Chipaca> i think this is the first time where i get to answer a question with yes+mu; normally it's no+mu
[13:09] <bthomas> mu ??
[13:09] <Chipaca> bthomas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)
[13:09] <Chipaca> bthomas: sometimes summed up as 'there is an error in your question'
[13:11] <bthomas> Agreed. My ideas are still a bit gaseous. :-). But the rephrasing as can external module import charm code makes the issue more concrete and precise. I forgot charms are not presistent processes but rather Juju is.
[15:29] <Chipaca> aaaand i need to go to the boys' school. No standup for me today either...
[15:29] <Chipaca> i'm not even supposed to be in charge of them, today :-|
[15:40] <bthomas> ack
[18:55]  * Chipaca EODs