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ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> i would love 'real' firefox on UT... mostly because i use it on all my other devices so i wanna use the mozilla account sync/tab sync/bookmarkets etc. 😆00:14
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @PiecerEdd [i would love 'real' firefox on UT... mostly because i use it on all my other dev …], Can you not import that stuff into Firefox in Libertine? Seems to me that also points to the need for more import tools in Morph, or perhaps some kind of utility conversion app forbookmarks, etc.00:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> fwiw firefox sync can be built into morph there's either a webkit or a chromium browser that did it, forgot which browser it was, @someone just needs to dive in and do it00:38
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I think Falkon is qtwebengine, we can copy all its codes 😂01:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yeah lets let kde handle qt maintainence for us 🤣🤣🤣02:19
ubptgbot<Javacookies> let's upgrade qt and use kde apps 😄02:21
ubptgbot<Javacookies> personally though, I'm not a fan of Kirigami02:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw yeah kirigami, we have suru hmmm02:24
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I like kirigami but it needs work02:24
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I much prefer suru02:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> suru >> kirigami02:24
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Are you cating that?02:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yes :^302:25
ubptgbot<Javacookies> what's up with japanese names? 😄02:29
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Nani?02:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> kugi is a valid japanese name for me rp02:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] kugi is a valid japanese name for me :p02:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw you mean suru and kirigami02:35
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> He means suru and kirigami :') … anyways, I'm off to bed for the night, so Oyasumi guys02:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> oyasumi o/02:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that's `goodnight` in english02:38
ubptgbotzhxt1 was added by: zhxt102:44
ubptgbot<mateosalta> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/22V9NdZ1.png02:58
ubptgbot<hedkehod> UwU03:00
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting for a plane ;)03:03
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], Mine has not yet arrived - I asked Volla and they said they had shipped on 11-7, but were not able to forward me a tracking number at that time. I need to check back with them this week for one.03:05
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ah, probably in a similar situation03:07
ubptgbot<mateosalta> mine is in status "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"03:17
ubptgbot<mateosalta> so in the handover, or flying here03:19
ubptgbot<mateosalta> [Edit] so in the handover, or flying here i think03:19
ubptgbot<mateosalta> could take a while if they are waiting on a passenger flight03:22
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], you have all the UT devices? 😄03:24
ubptgbot<mateosalta> most :)03:24
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I'm getting parts to make a e503:24
ubptgbot<mateosalta> and I don't have the fairphone 203:25
ubptgbot<electimon> what is a e503:25
ubptgbot<arunkumar413> i forgot the phase phrase for ui tweaks tool03:25
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @arunkumar413 [i forgot the phase phrase for ui tweaks tool], should be your system password03:26
ubptgbot<mateosalta> or pin you enter to unlock03:26
ubptgbot<arunkumar413> U mean the unlock n lock key?03:26
ubptgbot<mateosalta> yep try that03:26
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @electimon [what is a e5], bhttps://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/741b30e503:27
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @electimon [what is a e5], [Edit] https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/741b30e503:27
ubptgbot<electimon> ohh03:27
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I have a orginal e4.5 ubuntu edition :)03:27
ubptgbot<electimon> nice03:28
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I had the E5 Ubuntu Edition … I think it was the first brand new phone I ever bought and the most expensive so far 😄03:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/g0M6mV9T.png03:55
ubptgbot<mateosalta> just add 3 more pine phones to the pile03:56
ubptgbot<Javacookies> you need help 😂04:00
ubptgbot<mateosalta> if anyone lives in belgum, there is a fairphone 2 that is local pickup only on ebay04:01
ubptgbot<mateosalta> looks new in box04:01
ubptgbot<electimon> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], nice lol04:02
ubptgbot<electimon> my collection is comprised of moto and samsung04:02
ubptgbot<electimon> [Edit] my collection is comprised of moto, samsung and lg04:02
ubptgbot<mateosalta> well, I have a bricked lg v20, a galaxy3 mini, a samsung note 8 i think(might be locked) - those were given by family once they got new ones04:04
ubptgbot<electimon> thats cool04:04
ubptgbot<electimon> mine come from various places04:04
ubptgbot<mateosalta> don't think I can do anything with them, but I want to try the dex thing out sometime04:05
ubptgbot<electimon> yeah its a nice concept04:05
ubptgbot<JDK2387> @UniversalSuperBox [Run sudo -i], please what the -i means?   does it change to permanet admin mode or till restart admin?04:06
ubptgbot<electimon> change to admin shell04:07
jdmarkwhats the tablet with the best hardware supported by ubports?05:59
ubptgbotninadndesai was added by: ninadndesai07:07
ubptgbot<libremax> Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/karin/09:42
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], They started arriving a couple of days ago. But still early09:43
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/09:44
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> F(x)tec Pro1 is now available in UBports installer09:44
ubptgbot<delijati> damn i love it but that price is way over my limit09:49
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> btw just moved my private redmi note 7 tree to the surface web09:51
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> it was only accessible with a internal vpn back then09:51
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @delijati [damn i love it but that price is way over my limit], surely it's price is a bit too expensive.. :P09:52
ubptgbot<just_carlod> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], nice the third android 9 with installer09:57
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> yes09:58
ubptgbot<just_carlod> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], [Edit] nice the third android 9 device with installer09:58
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> redmi note 7 will soon though09:58
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> it's just that i have moved development tree to a new infra09:58
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> previously it was stored in a server from the internal network which requires vpn access because we feel like we do not want our works to be leaked09:59
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> i hope to see it released sometime in december, need to stop looking at the pinephone and pro1 :)10:00
ubptgbot<Javacookies> so many new devices recently … fun!10:58
ubptgbot<X YZ> @Javacookies [so many new devices recently … fun!], 👍10:59
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I also really like the progress in the installer12:02
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I feel like it'll be the go to installer for alternative OSes on mobile12:03
ubptgbot<X YZ> Now all we need is the ABM dual-boot app, so that switching between OS as needed and without data loss becomes easy. 🤞12:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], haha did not expect to see her13:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], is that the original pro1?13:06
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], yes, but works on 1x too13:20
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], Pro1/Pro1x are same hardware-wise except for RAM/storage variants13:21
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], [Edit] Pro1/Pro1x are (supposed to be) same hardware-wise except for RAM/storage variants13:22
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Cool that opens a lot of possibity for those who wanted to save for it13:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [yes, but works on 1x too], Awesome13:24
ubptgbotaddictte was added by: addictte13:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], Looks like you'd the perfect guy to test the installer xD14:01
ubptgbotR1kki7aav1 was added by: R1kki7aav114:45
ubptgbot<Javacookies> my Nexus 5 literally went from 100-20% then 20-100% while creating libertine container via seabass2....then clickable failed to run on the container 😭16:02
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> Guys im tring to install anbox but when i install anbox-tool it give me an error: halium_arm64 is not supported16:05
ubptgbot<rubencarneiro> Well you should get an fp2 drains even faster, then you will not create the container16:05
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> There's a way to bypass this error16:05
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> When i typing anbox-tool status it give me: … KERNEL: OK … SYSTEM: NOT FOUND … ENABLED: NO … RUNNING: NO16:07
ubptgbot<Pete N.> @SaltyCybernaut [has anyone used Google FI as their ISP/carrier on Ubuntu Touch? were you able to …], Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3axl to m16:10
ubptgbot<Pete N.> make calls16:11
ubptgbot<joeth> @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], how slow is it?16:34
ubptgbot<SaltyCybernaut> @Pete N. [Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3ax …], Hey Pete N, This was my setup: … I had a sim card that was already activated on an Android phone and I used it with a Nexus 5. I did not have to do anything for calling to work.16:36
ubptgbot<Pete N.> oh lol ok.. i tried using an old verizon sim.. i just ordered a Fi sim..glad to see you have it working16:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @joeth [how slow is it?], Lag close to a second i'd say16:53
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> @Fuseteam [haha did not expect to see her], lol17:07
ubptgbot<SaarSmit> Charles Wesley: … https://t.me/psoinchatAAAAAE4eUA6Oi9FucirCA17:22
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @joeth [how slow is it?], Way slower than loading in Morph.17:23
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @Pete N. [Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3ax …], Which carrier? The same as SaltyCybernaut?17:27
ubptgbot<fredldotme> Oh I see, the Google thing, sorry17:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Fi seems like a long shot for us... Lots of things are done inside some probably proprietary provisioning plugsins17:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] Fi seems like a long shot for us... Lots of things are done inside some probably proprietary provisioning plugins17:28
ubptgbot<fredldotme> why am I not surprised..17:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It works by switching between multiple US networks and Wi-Fi calling fairly seamlessly.17:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Though its pricing isn't super competitive any more, it does give you the free Google VPN.17:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> and international service17:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Google Connectivity Services, Carrier Services, and the Project Fi app (with Google Mobile Services) appear to be required to use the service under LineageOS.17:36
ubptgbot<amyosx> @UniversalSuperBox [It works by switching between multiple US networks and Wi-Fi calling fairly seam …], Multiple networks sounds cool17:37
ubptgbot<amyosx> Sounds super proprietary though17:37
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It seems like a brutal miracle that Google managed to pull it off.17:38
ubptgbot<Pete N.> I'll have Google fi service. Awaiting a sim 😁17:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox [It seems like a brutal miracle that Google managed to pull it off.], money buys lots of things, as it turns out17:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> @dohbee [money buys lots of things, as it turns out], But it can't buy happiness18:05
ubptgbot<amyosx> Source: most billionaires18:05
ubptgbotxxpsnguy was added by: xxpsnguy18:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @amyosx [But it can't buy happiness], anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll see who is happier18:13
ubptgbot<amyosx> @dohbee [anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll s …], I mean without money you'd be unhappy18:14
ubptgbot<amyosx> Its about having the happy center18:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't think that's 100% true, but it's circumstantial18:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> But it is going 100% off topic 😀18:15
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> Fwd from virginioscotti: How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal18:27
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> Fwd from virginioscotti: ?18:27
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> @virginioscotti [How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal], I use Anbox18:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> @virginioscotti [How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal], if anbox is running, then `adb install <apk>` (on the device where anbox is running)18:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> and please don't cross-post18:29
ubptgbot<virginioscotti> OK sorry18:30
ubptgbotmorgenstern KATRIEN was added by: morgenstern KATRIEN18:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll s …], trust me you won't be much happier :P  … we need money to survive sure but billionaire have their minds full of how to safeguard their fortune :P18:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Stereofont [But it is going 100% off topic 😀], true 😂18:37
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> lavender now boots again \o/19:02
ubptgbot<zakarialj> @RealDanct12 [i hope to see it released sometime in december, need to stop looking at the pine …], Is there a possibility for a dual rom (UB Touch and LineageOS) for the Redmi Note 7 you think?19:07
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> no, sorry19:08
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> we have no plan to support dual boot as it is much difficult to maintain than a single OS19:09
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by design (dont ask me, ask the lead developer of the OS)19:09
ubptgbot<nift4> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], Halium supports kernel cmdline systempart= and datapart= arguments19:11
ubptgbot<nift4> Except OTA it works pretty fine here on UT19:11
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> then it might be possible but keep in mind that..19:12
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], ^ this19:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and use apparmor), and TWRP and such don't support our OTA system19:12
ubptgbot<nift4> @dohbee [sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and …], I don't share the kernel Xd19:12
ubptgbot<nift4> @dohbee [sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and …], [Edit] I don't share the kernel xD19:12
ubptgbot<nift4> And well yes OTA doesn't work19:13
ubptgbot<NotKit> if you have a way to boot multiple kernels, it can work, but it's simply lot of extra work none of devs are interested in19:13
ubptgbot<nift4> @NotKit [if you have a way to boot multiple kernels, it can work, but it's simply lot of …], Well, yes19:13
ubptgbot<nift4> But no19:13
ubptgbot<nift4> @RealDanct12 [^ this], Canonical once supported it /shrug19:14
ubptgbot<nift4> For one nexus device afaik19:14
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> that's in the past19:15
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> now canonical has no part on developing ubuntu touch19:15
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], Not exactly tis just that an dual boot method uses recovery and ubuntu touch uses recovery for updates iiuc19:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> @nift4 [Canonical once supported it /shrug], for a very short time, using very old method. it wasn't supported for the entirety of the project19:16
ubptgbot<nift4> @dohbee [for a very short time, using very old method. it wasn't supported for the entire …], Yeah ofc19:16
ubptgbot<nift4> But they rid19:16
ubptgbot<nift4> [Edit] But they did19:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, and the reason they stopped is the same reason we don't19:17
ubptgbot<nift4> @dohbee [yes, and the reason they stopped is the same reason we don't], It's okay :) I don't want support from you19:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> uh ok19:21
ubptgbot<zakarialj> @RealDanct12 [we have no plan to support dual boot as it is much difficult to maintain than a …], Got it! Thank you for your response19:48
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> you're welcome, if you have any question, don't hesitate asking!19:48
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Pete N. [<reply to media>], nice!19:49
ubptgbot<Marcos> Is there any way to have the dock hidden when the screen is unlocked and in normal mode (no windows type)?19:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> there was an discussion about that a while ago19:54
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the decision was made back then to always show it when no apps are open19:54
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Thinking on it have to say despite the pandemic there has been a ton of awesome progress for UT in 2020!  Seems it would be nice if we could get a recap on the UBports blog - all the advancements in Halium and Android device support (including Android 9 devices), 4 new devices coming pre-installed with UT (PinePhone, PineTab, Volla Pho19:56
ubptgbotne, F(x)tec Pro1-X), App Drawer replacing the old Dash and Scopes, arm64 support, lots of refinements to the core apps (such as easy vcf import and export in Contacts), major improvements to the installer, big upgrades to the Telegram and Signal clients, greatly improved navigation apps , a bunch of new games (Tux Racer, etc.), etc.  THANK YOU UBpo19:56
ubptgbotrts team and community developers for a great year!!19:56
ubptgbot<xyn_dev> 👏19:57
ubptgbot<Marcos> Thanks Tobiyo. Do you know if can be activated in some way? I.e. in some configuration file or so21:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> no21:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> the logic for how that works is a bit complicated, but if someone implemented a feature to tap on the blank area to hide the launcher, with tests, it could be accepted21:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that'd be a start. tests when to show and when to hide in general is missing atm iirc22:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] that'd be a start. tests when to show and when to hide the launcher in general is missing atm iirc22:11

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