[00:14] <ubptgbot> <PiecerEdd> i would love 'real' firefox on UT... mostly because i use it on all my other devices so i wanna use the mozilla account sync/tab sync/bookmarkets etc. 😆
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @PiecerEdd [i would love 'real' firefox on UT... mostly because i use it on all my other dev …], Can you not import that stuff into Firefox in Libertine? Seems to me that also points to the need for more import tools in Morph, or perhaps some kind of utility conversion app forbookmarks, etc.
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> fwiw firefox sync can be built into morph there's either a webkit or a chromium browser that did it, forgot which browser it was, @someone just needs to dive in and do it
[01:27] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I think Falkon is qtwebengine, we can copy all its codes 😂
[02:19] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yeah lets let kde handle qt maintainence for us 🤣🤣🤣
[02:21] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> let's upgrade qt and use kde apps 😄
[02:21] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> personally though, I'm not a fan of Kirigami
[02:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> ohw yeah kirigami, we have suru hmmm
[02:24] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> I like kirigami but it needs work
[02:24] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> I much prefer suru
[02:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> suru >> kirigami
[02:24] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> Are you cating that?
[02:25] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yes :^3
[02:29] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> what's up with japanese names? 😄
[02:31] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> Nani?
[02:34] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> kugi is a valid japanese name for me rp
[02:35] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] kugi is a valid japanese name for me :p
[02:35] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> ohw you mean suru and kirigami
[02:37] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> He means suru and kirigami :') … anyways, I'm off to bed for the night, so Oyasumi guys
[02:37] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> oyasumi o/
[02:38] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> that's `goodnight` in english
[02:44] <ubptgbot> zhxt1 was added by: zhxt1
[02:58] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/22V9NdZ1.png
[03:00] <ubptgbot> <hedkehod> UwU
[03:03] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting for a plane ;)
[03:05] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], Mine has not yet arrived - I asked Volla and they said they had shipped on 11-7, but were not able to forward me a tracking number at that time. I need to check back with them this week for one.
[03:07] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> ah, probably in a similar situation
[03:17] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> mine is in status "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"
[03:19] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> so in the handover, or flying here
[03:19] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> [Edit] so in the handover, or flying here i think
[03:22] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> could take a while if they are waiting on a passenger flight
[03:24] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], you have all the UT devices? 😄
[03:24] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> most :)
[03:24] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> I'm getting parts to make a e5
[03:25] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> and I don't have the fairphone 2
[03:25] <ubptgbot> <electimon> what is a e5
[03:25] <ubptgbot> <arunkumar413> i forgot the phase phrase for ui tweaks tool
[03:26] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @arunkumar413 [i forgot the phase phrase for ui tweaks tool], should be your system password
[03:26] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> or pin you enter to unlock
[03:26] <ubptgbot> <arunkumar413> U mean the unlock n lock key?
[03:26] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> yep try that
[03:27] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @electimon [what is a e5], bhttps://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/741b30e5
[03:27] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @electimon [what is a e5], [Edit] https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/741b30e5
[03:27] <ubptgbot> <electimon> ohh
[03:27] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> I have a orginal e4.5 ubuntu edition :)
[03:28] <ubptgbot> <electimon> nice
[03:45] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I had the E5 Ubuntu Edition … I think it was the first brand new phone I ever bought and the most expensive so far 😄
[03:55] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/g0M6mV9T.png
[03:56] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> just add 3 more pine phones to the pile
[04:00] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> you need help 😂
[04:01] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> if anyone lives in belgum, there is a fairphone 2 that is local pickup only on ebay
[04:01] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> looks new in box
[04:02] <ubptgbot> <electimon> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], nice lol
[04:02] <ubptgbot> <electimon> my collection is comprised of moto and samsung
[04:02] <ubptgbot> <electimon> [Edit] my collection is comprised of moto, samsung and lg
[04:04] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> well, I have a bricked lg v20, a galaxy3 mini, a samsung note 8 i think(might be locked) - those were given by family once they got new ones
[04:04] <ubptgbot> <electimon> thats cool
[04:04] <ubptgbot> <electimon> mine come from various places
[04:05] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> don't think I can do anything with them, but I want to try the dex thing out sometime
[04:05] <ubptgbot> <electimon> yeah its a nice concept
[04:06] <ubptgbot> <JDK2387> @UniversalSuperBox [Run sudo -i], please what the -i means?   does it change to permanet admin mode or till restart admin?
[04:07] <ubptgbot> <electimon> change to admin shell
[05:59] <jdmark> whats the tablet with the best hardware supported by ubports?
[07:07] <ubptgbot> ninadndesai was added by: ninadndesai
[09:42] <ubptgbot> <libremax> Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/karin/
[09:43] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic any news on your volla, mine is stuck in customs I think, or waiting …], They started arriving a couple of days ago. But still early
[09:44] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/
[09:44] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> F(x)tec Pro1 is now available in UBports installer
[09:49] <ubptgbot> <delijati> damn i love it but that price is way over my limit
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> btw just moved my private redmi note 7 tree to the surface web
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> it was only accessible with a internal vpn back then
[09:52] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> @delijati [damn i love it but that price is way over my limit], surely it's price is a bit too expensive.. :P
[09:57] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], nice the third android 9 with installer
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> yes
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], [Edit] nice the third android 9 device with installer
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> redmi note 7 will soon though
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> it's just that i have moved development tree to a new infra
[09:59] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> previously it was stored in a server from the internal network which requires vpn access because we feel like we do not want our works to be leaked
[10:00] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> i hope to see it released sometime in december, need to stop looking at the pinephone and pro1 :)
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> so many new devices recently … fun!
[10:59] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Javacookies [so many new devices recently … fun!], 👍
[12:02] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I also really like the progress in the installer
[12:03] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I feel like it'll be the go to installer for alternative OSes on mobile
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> Now all we need is the ABM dual-boot app, so that switching between OS as needed and without data loss becomes easy. 🤞
[13:03] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], haha did not expect to see her
[13:06] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pro1/], is that the original pro1?
[13:20] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], yes, but works on 1x too
[13:21] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], Pro1/Pro1x are same hardware-wise except for RAM/storage variants
[13:22] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Fuseteam [is that the original pro1?], [Edit] Pro1/Pro1x are (supposed to be) same hardware-wise except for RAM/storage variants
[13:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Cool that opens a lot of possibity for those who wanted to save for it
[13:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [yes, but works on 1x too], Awesome
[13:34] <ubptgbot> addictte was added by: addictte
[14:01] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @mateosalta [<reply to media>], Looks like you'd the perfect guy to test the installer xD
[14:45] <ubptgbot> R1kki7aav1 was added by: R1kki7aav1
[16:02] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> my Nexus 5 literally went from 100-20% then 20-100% while creating libertine container via seabass2....then clickable failed to run on the container 😭
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> Guys im tring to install anbox but when i install anbox-tool it give me an error: halium_arm64 is not supported
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <rubencarneiro> Well you should get an fp2 drains even faster, then you will not create the container
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> There's a way to bypass this error
[16:07] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> When i typing anbox-tool status it give me: … KERNEL: OK … SYSTEM: NOT FOUND … ENABLED: NO … RUNNING: NO
[16:10] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> @SaltyCybernaut [has anyone used Google FI as their ISP/carrier on Ubuntu Touch? were you able to …], Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3axl to m
[16:11] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> make calls
[16:34] <ubptgbot> <joeth> @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], how slow is it?
[16:36] <ubptgbot> <SaltyCybernaut> @Pete N. [Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3ax …], Hey Pete N, This was my setup: … I had a sim card that was already activated on an Android phone and I used it with a Nexus 5. I did not have to do anything for calling to work.
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> oh lol ok.. i tried using an old verizon sim.. i just ordered a Fi sim..glad to see you have it working
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @joeth [how slow is it?], Lag close to a second i'd say
[17:07] <ubptgbot> <ilikeyacutgAAAAA> @Fuseteam [haha did not expect to see her], lol
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <SaarSmit> Charles Wesley: … https://t.me/psoinchatAAAAAE4eUA6Oi9FucirCA
[17:23] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @joeth [how slow is it?], Way slower than loading in Morph.
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <fredldotme> @Pete N. [Hey salty .. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get my pixel 3ax …], Which carrier? The same as SaltyCybernaut?
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <fredldotme> Oh I see, the Google thing, sorry
[17:28] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Fi seems like a long shot for us... Lots of things are done inside some probably proprietary provisioning plugsins
[17:28] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] Fi seems like a long shot for us... Lots of things are done inside some probably proprietary provisioning plugins
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <fredldotme> why am I not surprised..
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It works by switching between multiple US networks and Wi-Fi calling fairly seamlessly.
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Though its pricing isn't super competitive any more, it does give you the free Google VPN.
[17:32] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> and international service
[17:36] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Google Connectivity Services, Carrier Services, and the Project Fi app (with Google Mobile Services) appear to be required to use the service under LineageOS.
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @UniversalSuperBox [It works by switching between multiple US networks and Wi-Fi calling fairly seam …], Multiple networks sounds cool
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Sounds super proprietary though
[17:38] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It seems like a brutal miracle that Google managed to pull it off.
[17:42] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> I'll have Google fi service. Awaiting a sim 😁
[17:59] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox [It seems like a brutal miracle that Google managed to pull it off.], money buys lots of things, as it turns out
[18:05] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @dohbee [money buys lots of things, as it turns out], But it can't buy happiness
[18:05] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Source: most billionaires
[18:05] <ubptgbot> xxpsnguy was added by: xxpsnguy
[18:13] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amyosx [But it can't buy happiness], anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll see who is happier
[18:14] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @dohbee [anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll s …], I mean without money you'd be unhappy
[18:14] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Its about having the happy center
[18:14] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i don't think that's 100% true, but it's circumstantial
[18:15] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> But it is going 100% off topic 😀
[18:27] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> Fwd from virginioscotti: How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal
[18:27] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> Fwd from virginioscotti: ?
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> @virginioscotti [How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal], I use Anbox
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @virginioscotti [How can i install apk by ubuntu terminal], if anbox is running, then `adb install <apk>` (on the device where anbox is running)
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and please don't cross-post
[18:30] <ubptgbot> <virginioscotti> OK sorry
[18:31] <ubptgbot> morgenstern KATRIEN was added by: morgenstern KATRIEN
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @dohbee [anyone who believes this is welcome to give me all their money, and then we'll s …], trust me you won't be much happier :P  … we need money to survive sure but billionaire have their minds full of how to safeguard their fortune :P
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Stereofont [But it is going 100% off topic 😀], true 😂
[19:02] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> lavender now boots again \o/
[19:07] <ubptgbot> <zakarialj> @RealDanct12 [i hope to see it released sometime in december, need to stop looking at the pine …], Is there a possibility for a dual rom (UB Touch and LineageOS) for the Redmi Note 7 you think?
[19:08] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> no, sorry
[19:09] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> we have no plan to support dual boot as it is much difficult to maintain than a single OS
[19:09] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by design (dont ask me, ask the lead developer of the OS)
[19:11] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], Halium supports kernel cmdline systempart= and datapart= arguments
[19:11] <ubptgbot> <nift4> Except OTA it works pretty fine here on UT
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> then it might be possible but keep in mind that..
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], ^ this
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and use apparmor), and TWRP and such don't support our OTA system
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @dohbee [sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and …], I don't share the kernel Xd
[19:12] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @dohbee [sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and …], [Edit] I don't share the kernel xD
[19:13] <ubptgbot> <nift4> And well yes OTA doesn't work
[19:13] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> if you have a way to boot multiple kernels, it can work, but it's simply lot of extra work none of devs are interested in
[19:13] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @NotKit [if you have a way to boot multiple kernels, it can work, but it's simply lot of …], Well, yes
[19:13] <ubptgbot> <nift4> But no
[19:14] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @RealDanct12 [^ this], Canonical once supported it /shrug
[19:14] <ubptgbot> <nift4> For one nexus device afaik
[19:15] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> that's in the past
[19:15] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> now canonical has no part on developing ubuntu touch
[19:15] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @RealDanct12 [and yet this will never be supported by ubuntu touch, i believe this is by desig …], Not exactly tis just that an dual boot method uses recovery and ubuntu touch uses recovery for updates iiuc
[19:16] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @nift4 [Canonical once supported it /shrug], for a very short time, using very old method. it wasn't supported for the entirety of the project
[19:16] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @dohbee [for a very short time, using very old method. it wasn't supported for the entire …], Yeah ofc
[19:16] <ubptgbot> <nift4> But they rid
[19:17] <ubptgbot> <nift4> [Edit] But they did
[19:17] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes, and the reason they stopped is the same reason we don't
[19:20] <ubptgbot> <nift4> @dohbee [yes, and the reason they stopped is the same reason we don't], It's okay :) I don't want support from you
[19:21] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> uh ok
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <zakarialj> @RealDanct12 [we have no plan to support dual boot as it is much difficult to maintain than a …], Got it! Thank you for your response
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> you're welcome, if you have any question, don't hesitate asking!
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @Pete N. [<reply to media>], nice!
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <Marcos> Is there any way to have the dock hidden when the screen is unlocked and in normal mode (no windows type)?
[19:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> there was an discussion about that a while ago
[19:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> the decision was made back then to always show it when no apps are open
[19:56] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> Thinking on it have to say despite the pandemic there has been a ton of awesome progress for UT in 2020!  Seems it would be nice if we could get a recap on the UBports blog - all the advancements in Halium and Android device support (including Android 9 devices), 4 new devices coming pre-installed with UT (PinePhone, PineTab, Volla Pho
[19:56] <ubptgbot> ne, F(x)tec Pro1-X), App Drawer replacing the old Dash and Scopes, arm64 support, lots of refinements to the core apps (such as easy vcf import and export in Contacts), major improvements to the installer, big upgrades to the Telegram and Signal clients, greatly improved navigation apps , a bunch of new games (Tux Racer, etc.), etc.  THANK YOU UBpo
[19:56] <ubptgbot> rts team and community developers for a great year!!
[19:57] <ubptgbot> <xyn_dev> 👏
[21:38] <ubptgbot> <Marcos> Thanks Tobiyo. Do you know if can be activated in some way? I.e. in some configuration file or so
[21:39] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no
[21:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the logic for how that works is a bit complicated, but if someone implemented a feature to tap on the blank area to hide the launcher, with tests, it could be accepted
[22:11] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> that'd be a start. tests when to show and when to hide in general is missing atm iirc
[22:11] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] that'd be a start. tests when to show and when to hide the launcher in general is missing atm iirc