| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:39 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 07:44 |
| TJ- | That feeling of frustration when you've spent 2 hours trying to get a 4K USB-C connected monitor to actually show something, only to find out the kernel driver in 20.04 was panicing... v5.10-rc5 to the rescue (albeit can't run @60Hz, so using 30Hz) ! | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | aw | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | a screen panics on kernel 5.4? | 08:15 |
| TJ- | Yes - this is a "Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx" and the amdgpu F/LOSS driver | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | amd needs higher kernels indeed | 08:17 |
| TJ- | Until today I've been using just the laptop's HDMI port with a portrait-oriented 2560x1080 2nd monitor - this morning I decided to connect a USB-C dock, that monitor, and a 4K 27" to give me more programming workspace | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 08:18 |
| TJ- | With the boss now having 3 screens and able to effeciently code it'll push others to work a bit harder :) | 08:20 |
| lotuspsychje | haha | 08:20 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah its not good to have the image of always being the guy that fixes everything | 08:20 |
| lotuspsychje | ppl rely on that tooo easy | 08:21 |
| lotuspsychje | thats why i like opensource solving, brainstorm togheter in a team | 08:21 |
| TJ- | mostly it's the fact that I've been sidetracked by business matters - the dev side needs more of my direction and insight | 08:21 |
| TJ- | unfortunately not enough time in the day | 08:22 |
| lotuspsychje | i bet | 08:22 |
| TJ- | plus of course I much prefer doing this hacking stuff than management :D | 08:22 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah in IT need to focus on the branch you do best | 08:23 |
| TJ- | the way things are going, we may end up being the fastest growing start-up ever | 08:23 |
| lotuspsychje | neat | 08:23 |
| TJ- | I'm planning on setting up a F/LOSS investment fund but not quite figured out how and what it should support and do | 08:26 |
| TJ- | looks like we need to be careful on 20.04 etc; thunderbird 78 is in -proposed and it seriously breaks Enigmail and PGP support, and once installed cannot go back to v68 due to 78 changing the profile config layout/settings | 08:45 |
| lotuspsychje | oh tnx TJ- does it break over the snap too? | 09:49 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: thunderbird is breaking enigmail because they now implement PGP themselves | 10:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i see | 10:01 |
| TJ- | also because TB is importing the keys from gnupg so you've now got 2 copies, plus it doesn't support hardware tokens | 10:58 |
| ducasse | what i hear from a friend is that it also sets it's own passphrase on the keys it uses, and stores that in the config | 11:56 |
| ducasse | i've not checked this myself yet | 11:56 |
| * daftykins awaits the full write-up | 11:58 | |
| TJ- | Yes, it does | 12:22 |
| TJ- | it creates a 'random' password and stores that in its profile | 12:22 |
| ducasse | is that not a problem? | 12:31 |
| marcoagpinto | Heya! | 12:37 |
| ducasse | TJ-: my friend is pretty worried about the security of this setup, you got any thoughts on that? | 12:51 |
| TJ- | ducasse: yes - don't upgrade if you use PGP email | 13:02 |
| ducasse | right, he already did. now he's looking for an alternative client, but he's on macos so free options are limited | 13:03 |
| TJ- | £0 or free/libre ? | 13:04 |
| daftykins | is it the classic throwing the toys out of the pram move and wanting to hop software because it "did wrong?" | 13:05 |
| daftykins | rather than restoring from backup -> modifying the update mechanism | 13:05 |
| ducasse | i think he doesn't want to stick with software that won't receive any updates he can apply | 13:07 |
| TJ- | pretty easy privacy are currently working on updating their add-on for Thunderbird for Linux, so when that is complete that'll be available. That is already available on Macs | 13:08 |
| ducasse | great, thanks | 13:11 |
| ducasse | i'll inform him of that | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: you probably noticed, so just in case: 5.8 is available in 20.04 via hwe-20.04 (as well as -edge, currently). but i think i read your needs 5.9 (IIRC). | 16:54 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: regarding the GPU/4k issue? | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: yes | 17:01 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: we're running most of our systems with custom built kernels now so I just grabbed a 5.10 build - hadn't realised this laptop wasn't on one. | 17:03 |
| tomreyn | oh.. if you custom build anyways... i like the idea of not having to maintain everything myself, but certainly for larger installments this is a different story. | 18:54 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: ^ | 18:54 |
| TJ- | ^to fix bugs!^ | 19:00 |
| daftykins | squoosh 'em | 19:21 |
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