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ljkimzHello, I'm configuring LDAP on 18.04 and noticed that /etc/ldap.conf requires world-read permissions. This is a problem when the ldap server requires auth (bindpw). Is there any way around this?01:15
fattywompusHello, I'm intending to install ubuntu server 20.04 on a machine that already has an existing windows 7 partition.  I get the feeling Ubuntu server might not handle that as neatly as regular ubuntu finding it and adding it to grub. Is that correct and should it just be a matter of needing to "sudo update grub"? Or what's the established protocol for this?07:43
fattywompuswould "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" do the trick?08:02
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quadrathoch2fattywompus, you would need to install it the same way (bios/uefi) and then os-prober12:20
RoyKfattywompus: ubuntu server and desktop are the same except for the graphical gui13:16
fattywompusOk thanks very much13:18
geosmilehello everyone17:20
geosmilePsi-Jack, Looking at auto-mox now17:21
Psi-JackThere was one other I used to use, but can't find it.17:21
geosmilePsi-Jack, Automox is $5/month/machine. So in my case => $250/month/machine. Landscape from Ubuntu is $8/month/machine17:22
geosmilePsi-Jack, I also was looking at tinycp - but I'm not sure I can trust these softwares with my servers.17:23
Psi-JackYep. Or just $3/mo, because do you really need "Manage?" heh17:23
geosmilePsi-Jack, Or I can whip out my ansible script for $0/month - the only thing I've to do is create a sudo user without password and with ssh keys. Then run it using a cron job.17:24
geosmilethat i'll have to do with any of these softwares anyways i think17:24
geosmilePsi-Jack, have you ever heard of tinycp?17:25
Psi-Jacknever heard of tinycp, no.17:25
Psi-JackI do, however use and recommend Rudder and Ansible. As a combination, they are excellent. And work well with Ubuntu, and others.17:25
Psi-JackYou can use Rudder with plugins (some are commercial), that can be used to report security concerns, check updates and report that, various things.17:26
Psi-JackAnd you can have it routinely do things that require orchestration, with ansible, with feedback as a policy.17:26
geosmilePsi-Jack, Rudder is $40/year/node - I wish I could just pay for a good ansible script to do this. Need to get that done myself :)17:27
Psi-JackRudder is free, too.17:28
geosmilelooking at the free version of Rudder.17:28
tomreynwhat's running on these servers? are they all running the same softeware stacks, or different ones?17:29
Psi-JackGreat question. :)17:30
geosmiletomreyn, ubuntu 16 or 18 - all of them17:30
geosmiledifferent softwares installed on them17:30
Psi-Jack16.04 and 18.04 I hope you mean.17:30
geosmilebut base OS is Ubuntu - later on moving to 18.04LTS on all of them17:30
geosmileI think 1-2 are still running 16.0417:30
tomreynso it's a large zoo, not just a couple systems forming one large service17:31
geosmiletomreyn, yes - And I just need apt update/upgrade to work for starters. At least be able to monitor that there are updates pending to be installed.17:32
geosmileOn premise landscape would have been best if it was free to scale beyond 10 machines.17:33
Psi-JackHeh, I do that monitor metric, just to see if there's updates pending, via Prometheus.17:33
Psi-JackAn option you can also look into is possibly StackStorm.17:36
Psi-JackEvent-driven automation concept, that could be used with other components to monitor "security updates" needs, and automate an action to fix it.17:36
tomreynor just unattended-upgrades17:36
Psi-JackYou'd still need to monitor and react appropriately to the need to reboot machines.17:37
tomreynyes, it can send e-mail, but i doubt anyone would want to monitor 50 systems that way17:38
Psi-JackI've used StackStorm in a test environment to monitor security updates, install them, monitor reboot needed, and schedule an automated reboot, in a setup that was fully HA capable.17:38
tomreynalthough not really, there is: Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot-Time "02:00";17:40
tomreynbut you'd probably want to get central visibility into this.17:41
Psi-JackYeah, if you want automated reboots too..... That would be both impressive and awesome.17:41
Psi-JackYou'd obviously need great HA for such. :)17:42
raven_Hey18:30
raven_How'd I link on windows and Android18:30
RoyKraven_: link?19:21
wolf_ravendoes systemctl not work on WSL. what is the alternative19:26
wolf_ravenI want to know the status of apache19:27
wolf_ravensystemtcl status apache2 is giving error19:27
wolf_ravensystemctl status apache219:28
wolf_ravenSystem has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.19:28
wolf_ravenusing service apache2 I can only start stop restart etc, can't know the status19:28
wolf_ravenI've to use localhost/server-status on browser19:29
wolf_ravenIs there a way to get the status on the server19:29
quadrathoch2wolf_raven19:36
quadrathoch2!wsl19:36
ubottuWindows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide19:36
quadrathoch2is probably better to ask19:36
wolf_ravenwill check it out on that channel. thanks19:36
fattywompusdoes ubuntu server ship with any kind of midnight commander ncurses type file manager?19:54
TJ-fattywompus: no, you would install it if needed20:01
fattywompusThanks20:04
BlueEaglefattywompus: mc is my go-to file manager for console.21:19
fattywompusyeah I really enjoy it.  I've been trying out it's built in mcedit as well which I'm finding to be pretty slick21:22
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RoyKBlueEagle: bash is my file manager ;)22:27

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