[01:15] <ljkimz> Hello, I'm configuring LDAP on 18.04 and noticed that /etc/ldap.conf requires world-read permissions. This is a problem when the ldap server requires auth (bindpw). Is there any way around this?
[07:43] <fattywompus> Hello, I'm intending to install ubuntu server 20.04 on a machine that already has an existing windows 7 partition.  I get the feeling Ubuntu server might not handle that as neatly as regular ubuntu finding it and adding it to grub. Is that correct and should it just be a matter of needing to "sudo update grub"? Or what's the established protocol for this?
[08:02] <fattywompus> would "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" do the trick?
[12:20] <quadrathoch2> fattywompus, you would need to install it the same way (bios/uefi) and then os-prober
[13:16] <RoyK> fattywompus: ubuntu server and desktop are the same except for the graphical gui
[13:18] <fattywompus> Ok thanks very much
[17:20] <geosmile> hello everyone
[17:21] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, Looking at auto-mox now
[17:21] <Psi-Jack> There was one other I used to use, but can't find it.
[17:22] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, Automox is $5/month/machine. So in my case => $250/month/machine. Landscape from Ubuntu is $8/month/machine
[17:23] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, I also was looking at tinycp - but I'm not sure I can trust these softwares with my servers.
[17:23] <Psi-Jack> Yep. Or just $3/mo, because do you really need "Manage?" heh
[17:24] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, Or I can whip out my ansible script for $0/month - the only thing I've to do is create a sudo user without password and with ssh keys. Then run it using a cron job.
[17:24] <geosmile> that i'll have to do with any of these softwares anyways i think
[17:25] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, have you ever heard of tinycp?
[17:25] <Psi-Jack> never heard of tinycp, no.
[17:25] <Psi-Jack> I do, however use and recommend Rudder and Ansible. As a combination, they are excellent. And work well with Ubuntu, and others.
[17:26] <Psi-Jack> You can use Rudder with plugins (some are commercial), that can be used to report security concerns, check updates and report that, various things.
[17:26] <Psi-Jack> And you can have it routinely do things that require orchestration, with ansible, with feedback as a policy.
[17:27] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, Rudder is $40/year/node - I wish I could just pay for a good ansible script to do this. Need to get that done myself :)
[17:28] <Psi-Jack> Rudder is free, too.
[17:28] <geosmile> looking at the free version of Rudder.
[17:29] <tomreyn> what's running on these servers? are they all running the same softeware stacks, or different ones?
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> Great question. :)
[17:30] <geosmile> tomreyn, ubuntu 16 or 18 - all of them
[17:30] <geosmile> different softwares installed on them
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> 16.04 and 18.04 I hope you mean.
[17:30] <geosmile> but base OS is Ubuntu - later on moving to 18.04LTS on all of them
[17:30] <geosmile> I think 1-2 are still running 16.04
[17:31] <tomreyn> so it's a large zoo, not just a couple systems forming one large service
[17:32] <geosmile> tomreyn, yes - And I just need apt update/upgrade to work for starters. At least be able to monitor that there are updates pending to be installed.
[17:33] <geosmile> On premise landscape would have been best if it was free to scale beyond 10 machines.
[17:33] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I do that monitor metric, just to see if there's updates pending, via Prometheus.
[17:36] <Psi-Jack> An option you can also look into is possibly StackStorm.
[17:36] <Psi-Jack> Event-driven automation concept, that could be used with other components to monitor "security updates" needs, and automate an action to fix it.
[17:36] <tomreyn> or just unattended-upgrades
[17:37] <Psi-Jack> You'd still need to monitor and react appropriately to the need to reboot machines.
[17:38] <tomreyn> yes, it can send e-mail, but i doubt anyone would want to monitor 50 systems that way
[17:38] <Psi-Jack> I've used StackStorm in a test environment to monitor security updates, install them, monitor reboot needed, and schedule an automated reboot, in a setup that was fully HA capable.
[17:40] <tomreyn> although not really, there is: Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot-Time "02:00";
[17:41] <tomreyn> but you'd probably want to get central visibility into this.
[17:41] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, if you want automated reboots too..... That would be both impressive and awesome.
[17:42] <Psi-Jack> You'd obviously need great HA for such. :)
[18:30] <raven_> Hey
[18:30] <raven_> How'd I link on windows and Android
[19:21] <RoyK> raven_: link?
[19:26] <wolf_raven> does systemctl not work on WSL. what is the alternative
[19:27] <wolf_raven> I want to know the status of apache
[19:27] <wolf_raven> systemtcl status apache2 is giving error
[19:28] <wolf_raven> systemctl status apache2
[19:28] <wolf_raven> System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
[19:28] <wolf_raven> using service apache2 I can only start stop restart etc, can't know the status
[19:29] <wolf_raven> I've to use localhost/server-status on browser
[19:29] <wolf_raven> Is there a way to get the status on the server
[19:36] <quadrathoch2> wolf_raven
[19:36] <quadrathoch2> !wsl
[19:36] <quadrathoch2> is probably better to ask
[19:36] <wolf_raven> will check it out on that channel. thanks
[19:54] <fattywompus> does ubuntu server ship with any kind of midnight commander ncurses type file manager?
[20:01] <TJ-> fattywompus: no, you would install it if needed
[20:04] <fattywompus> Thanks
[21:19] <BlueEagle> fattywompus: mc is my go-to file manager for console.
[21:22] <fattywompus> yeah I really enjoy it.  I've been trying out it's built in mcedit as well which I'm finding to be pretty slick
[22:27] <RoyK> BlueEagle: bash is my file manager ;)