[00:04] <robertparkerx> will 18.04 support higher version than php 7.2 since it is reaching EOL
[00:05] <Android> the russian cow plop feom wikipedia looka like a kite to russian operatives in local police
[00:05] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx no, as canonical is supporting 7.2
[00:05] <Android> righr now rhey are making moves
[00:05] <Android> spectrum fake intwrnet installing new lines
[00:06] <Android> confirm you read
[00:06] <Android> do you read?
[00:06] <Android> needa pong here
[00:06] <Android> confirm now
[00:07] <Android> get me our of here
[00:07] <Android> do you read
[00:07] <geosmileus> BlueEagle, foreman looks good - have you ever looked at it?
[00:07] <Android> blueeagle stay on target
[00:19] <Android> this apparent random shall exist after thermodynamic rundown
[00:20] <Android> nobody kbows where it comes from
[00:20] <tomreyn> !offtopic | Android
[00:20] <Android> from nowhere
[00:20] <Android> urandom is ontopic tomrain
[00:21] <tomreyn> Android: what's your ubuntu support question?
[00:21] <Android> that's hoe that works czwolf
[00:21] <Android> tom
[00:22] <tomreyn> sorry?
[00:22] <Android> I can make a question if you will answer
[00:22] <Android> urandom is aka Neo or the architects "bug"
[00:23] <tomreyn> just stop the random chatter. if you have an ubuntu support question ask it, if you don't, please give it a rest, see if you can find a channel which matches your topic.
[00:24] <Android> need some gods so I can leave the charter spectrum fake wifi fake russians fraud america trap citywide
[00:24] <oerheks> Android, please no random monologues, thanks, this is ubuntu support only.
[00:25] <Android> print out some gods and drop off 2 walter blocks for your local sunshine judge
[00:30] <BlueEagle> geosmileus: I have not.
[00:40] <CorvusCorax> dmesg: "task systemd-sleep blocked for more than 900 seconds"  ... is that normal during ubuntu installation?
[00:43] <CorvusCorax> im trying to install a ubuntu 20 minimal installation from live USB stick unto another USB stick - it's already taken 5 hours
[00:44] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | CorvusCorax
[00:44] <ljkimz> Hello, I'm configuring LDAP on 18.04 and noticed that /etc/ldap.conf requires world-read permissions. This is a problem when the ldap server requires auth (bindpw). Is there any way around this?
[00:44] <CorvusCorax> 20.04.1 LTS
[00:44] <tomreyn> CorvusCorax: 5 hours would make me very suspect, too. did you check dmesg?
[00:45] <CorvusCorax> yes i did, i got these warnings about hung tasks
[00:45] <tomreyn> did you skip the media test during boot?
[00:46] <CorvusCorax> i did, but i previously booted from the same medium and it ran through succesfully
[00:46] <CorvusCorax> skipped on later reboot, because it took so long the first time
[00:47] <tomreyn> i wouldn't recommend skipping it, since a couple situations can occur whihc would make it work fine one time but not another time.
[00:47] <tomreyn> how much ram does this system have?
[00:48] <CorvusCorax> in dmesg the only errors are "info: task install.py:***** blocked for more than 240 seconds" twice , and later several times systemd-sleep with the same and much longer dead times
[00:48] <CorvusCorax> 8 GB
[00:49] <tomreyn> maybe you acidentially triggered a suspend event and it got stuck trying to switch to suspend.
[00:49] <CorvusCorax>  /proc/meminfo says 6 Gig are "available" of which 1.8 Gig are used for buffers and 4 are used for cache
[00:49] <tomreyn> i'd just re-do the installation
[00:50] <CorvusCorax> on the pro side , the progress bar "copying data" finally finished after 5 hours and it now says "installing base system"
[00:51] <CorvusCorax> its still doing something, its just awfully slow
[00:52] <tomreyn> hmm, so either one of your usb sticks is remarkably slow, or the bus is, or you're dealing with broken hardware and this fact isn't being detected.
[00:54] <ljkimz> Hello, I'm configuring LDAP on 18.04 and noticed that /etc/ldap.conf requires world-read permissions. This is a problem when the ldap server requires auth (bindpw). Is there any way around this?
[00:55] <CorvusCorax> my suspicion is that somehow those 2 USB sticks share the same bus or some other resource and the kernel isn't aware of it and thinks it can access them simultaneously causing them to block each other. i wonder if increasing write cache buffers on the fly would help
[00:56] <CorvusCorax> just for s.a.g. i hit "sync" - for the time being that froze everything, let's see if its faster afterwards
[00:58] <CorvusCorax> "<tomreyn> maybe you acidentially triggered a suspend event and it got stuck trying to switch to suspend." <-- good call, there's a "Dead" process called /lib/systemd/systemd-sleep suspend" in "ps -A"
[00:58] <CorvusCorax> looks like after waiting for so long the system decided to go to sleep on its own
[00:59] <CorvusCorax> not nice, ubuntu shouldn't auto-suspend for inactivity while in the middle of installation
[01:01] <CorvusCorax> I aborted it now, let's see if this is reproducible
[01:02] <tomreyn> ljkimz: which ldap server are you using?
[01:03] <ljkimz> My server is my Synology NAS. Queries work with ldapsearch and when the ldap.conf perms are 644
[01:03] <ljkimz> It seems that nss requires the world read to access ldap.conf
[01:04] <ljkimz> I an actually authenticate but any actions that need NSS don't work (id, getent, etc)
[01:06] <tomreyn> ljkimz: you can place secrets in /etc/ldap.secret instead
[01:08] <ljkimz> and then have 600 on that file?
[01:08] <tomreyn> possibly. i'm just reading this up on documentation for you, but haven't set up ldap lately.
[01:09] <ljkimz> aha...ok, I appreciate that
[01:10] <ljkimz> I usually work on Red Hat so this is new. I've seen other Ubuntu servers that just connect to an anonymous bind enabled server. The account I use for queries is read only with a long random password. I guess the security impact is low but would be best to give some protection to the server and that password.
[01:12] <ljkimz> I think I could probably install/configure SSSD but this is mainly for a small POC setup so I didn't want to put forth too much effort.
[01:14] <tomreyn> note there is also #ubuntu-server for more server oriented questions. it's usually more vivid during the week.
[01:14] <ljkimz> Oh, ok. Thanks for that tip. I'll hop over there.
[02:07] <ignapk> hey, I know 19.04 is EOL but I'm testing some older instructions and want to confirm they work before I try them with 20.04, so when I apt update I get paste.rs/82K and here's /etc/apt/sources.list paste.rs/dMh
[02:08] <quadrathoch2> ignapk i guess you would need to update your repos to the new location (since they are eol)
[02:09] <ignapk> I already replaced {archive,security}.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com, but I don't know what to replace ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports with
[02:09] <cass> ignapk: what's the output of dpkg --print-architecture
[02:09] <ignapk> arm64
[02:09] <quadrathoch2> ignapk http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:09] <cass> ignapk: try just replacing with old-releases too
[02:10] <cass> ignapk: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco/ seems to have arm64 stuff in it, so it might Just Work
[02:10] <ignapk> ok will try that
[02:12] <ignapk> ugh this would be much easier if I had ANY kind of editor in there
[02:13] <minall> Hello Ubuntu Community!... Is there something like a keyboard I can 'write' on with my graphics tablet? like a windows 10 feature but in Ubuntu?
[02:14] <quadrathoch2> minall do you mean a onscreen keyboard?
[02:14] <quadrathoch2> ignapk oO shouldn't there be any editor installed?
[02:15] <cass> ignapk: for what it's worth, they don't all need to be separated. you can literally just make it four lines: https://dpaste.com/G942VPEEH
[02:15] <cass> the default sources.list splits everything up and adds a bunch of comments and it's all unnecessary, the above is functionally equivalent
[02:16] <ignapk> oh I can easily > that paste then, thanks!
[02:16] <minall> quadrathoch2: Yes, that's what I mean, thanks you for looking into my question!
[02:17] <ignapk> quadrathoch2: ik right, unless there's something other than vim, emacs, nano, vi, ed that could be set as default *shrug*
[02:18] <quadrathoch2> minall gnome? if yes, you can activate the onscreen keyboard in accesibility
[02:19] <quadrathoch2> ignapk weird, as the default ubuntu install does have vim and nano installed as default. but as you have an arm board, idk what they maybe edited the install into ;)
[02:20] <minall> quadrathoch2: there is a onscreen keyboard but, I mean more specific like writing a letter with my graphics tablet and that is the 'input'
[02:20] <quadrathoch2> minall so you mean something like paint?
[02:20] <ignapk> thank god it worked, I've never apt installed vim that far in my life ;)
[02:21] <cass> :D
[02:21] <quadrathoch2> vi for life :)
[02:22] <ignapk> also the script that does its thing uses this http://bridgman.canonical.com/releases/ubuntu-base/releases/19.04/release/ubuntu-base-19.04-base-arm64.tar.gz, maybe some ultra minimal version or sth
[02:23] <ignapk> well it used to get it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/releases/19.04/release/ubuntu-base-19.04-base-arm64.tar.gz but that's 404 now as expected
[02:23] <ignapk> anyway thanks for help :D
[02:24] <quadrathoch2> ignapk i assume that's just a debootstrap :/ so idk
[02:29] <minall> Sorry I disconnected, my internet is a little slow... so, is there something like a keyboard I can write on with my graphics tablet?
[02:44] <geosmileus> I'm trying to setup a ssh based system to administer a bunch of machines. What is a good way to ssh into these machines and do sudo? I can ssh root@machineX or ssh guest@machineX + sudo
[02:47] <quadrathoch2> second option is the better one geosmileus
[03:21] <geosmileus> apt purge python2.7-minimal -- is this safe to do on ubuntu 16/18?
[03:21] <darkdog> any point of enabling firewall on ubuntu as ports are closed anyway?
[03:21] <geosmileus> darkdog, use ufw
[03:22] <darkdog> what are the benefits of enabling ufw since ports are closed anyway?
[03:23] <geosmileus> ufw - which ports are closed, and have you checked your iptables -L?
[03:30] <darkdog> i'm just aksing if there's any reason to enable it, nothing else
[03:40] <robertparkerx> do you all know why ubuntu 18.04 chooses only to support 7.2? that I have to use a ppa
[03:43] <Maik> robertparkerx: support what?
[03:44] <robertparkerx> Sorry php 7.2
[03:44] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx because back in the day, that was the latest php version
[03:45] <robertparkerx> It reaches EOL
[03:45] <Maik> robertparkerx: just like debian they stick to one version of software and keep it up to date with security patches and fixes.
[03:47] <Maik> robertparkerx: then upgrade to 20.04 LTS which has 7.4
[03:47] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx just because upstream doesn't support 7.2 anymore, doesn't mean that canonical can't/won't support it
[03:47] <robertparkerx> Maik I had no idea
[03:47] <robertparkerx> Let me see if it prompts me
[03:48] <robertparkerx> my greeting doesn't say 20.04 or anything about it when I login
[03:48] <robertparkerx> dodistupgrade or something like that
[03:49] <Maik> it should have since august
[03:49] <robertparkerx> it doesn't
[03:50] <Maik> then force it if you like
[03:50] <robertparkerx> how?
[03:50] <robertparkerx> I know little
[03:51] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx do-release-upgrade
[03:51] <robertparkerx> that's it
[03:51] <robertparkerx> is there anything I should read before?
[03:52] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx disable and remove any ppas you might have
[03:52] <quadrathoch2> or third party repos
[03:53] <Maik> robertparkerx: before upgrading, as always, backup your important date, make sure your system is fully up to date and that what quadrathoch2 said
[03:54] <Maik> by the way, there arenough tutorials or guides out there about upgrading.
[03:54] <robertparkerx> does ppa-purge still work?
[03:54] <robertparkerx> my server is hetzner and they add repos too
[03:54] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx ppa still works
[03:56] <robertparkerx> sudo ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d seems easier
[03:56] <robertparkerx> ls is list right
[03:56] <quadrathoch2> yes
[03:57] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx are we talking about a cloud vm or dedicated?
[03:57] <quadrathoch2> because maybe it's just easier to respin the cloudvm (if it is one, and you have the data)
[03:57] <robertparkerx> https://i.hashdev.org/20201127_215706_ROBERTPARKERX.jpg
[03:57] <robertparkerx> I'd like to learn too
[03:58] <robertparkerx> I forgot about the ppa and third party removal
[03:58] <robertparkerx> I've done this once but it prompted me
[03:58] <robertparkerx> Totally different provider though
[03:58] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx just remember that maybe some of them you want again after the upgrade, some maybe you don't
[03:59] <robertparkerx> so can I just move them away?
[04:00] <quadrathoch2> move out of the folder, yes, but you would still have the packages installed, that could give you issues
[04:00] <robertparkerx> I only want to keep two -- node and yarn
[04:00] <robertparkerx> oh
[04:00] <quadrathoch2> and I am not 100% sure how hetzner setup their repos (as in what does /etc/apt/sources.list say)
[04:00] <robertparkerx> https://i.hashdev.org/20201127_215706_ROBERTPARKERX.jpg
[04:00] <quadrathoch2> as that hetzner.list sounds like you would need to keep that
[04:05] <robertparkerx> I'm going to find more information before doing this
[04:05] <robertparkerx> I thought it was easier
[04:06] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx you should, and always backup your data you want to keep
[04:06] <quadrathoch2> it is easy, but the first time is always a little bit trickier
[04:06] <robertparkerx> I don't know what list to keep and what not. Three of them I know I need to move because their ppa.
[04:07] <robertparkerx> I don't know about hetzner mirror and what certbot-ubuntu-certbot-bionic is
[04:08] <robertparkerx> I think I need to move them all and bring back hetzner mirror for sure
[04:08] <Maik> is it your server? who set it up?
[04:08] <robertparkerx> I did
[04:08] <robertparkerx> I read a lot though
[04:08] <Maik> then you should know what to do and what is what imho
[04:09] <robertparkerx> I didn't add hetzner list
[04:09] <robertparkerx> I don't know what the other is. I added the three ppa
[04:10] <robertparkerx> I guess move them all and bring back hetzner list
[04:18] <robertparkerx> no guide mentions ppa or sources list
[04:18] <robertparkerx> it just says run the command
[04:18] <robertparkerx> https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[04:19] <Maik> still it's recommended to disable or remove PPA's while upgrading
[04:20] <quadrathoch2> afaik, idk what happens if the official mirrors are in the folder not sources.list file :/
[04:23] <robertparkerx> I removed all of the list
[04:23] <robertparkerx> is that okay?
[04:23] <robertparkerx> well I moved them
[05:13] <monkwitdafunk> hello, does anyone know if: cdw, works on ubuntu desktop as installling cdrecord, uninstalls wodim?
[05:53] <omegaxis> greetings
[05:54] <omegaxis> please what is nbd kernel parameters for pxe
[05:54] <omegaxis> or what is the equivalent of mkinitcpio -H for ubuntu
[06:33] <chown> mount -t xfs -o loop hda2.img sda2/ <- column: invalid option -- 'o' I get this error when trying to mount an xfs image
[06:33] <chown> Ubuntu 18.04
[07:30] <ennozdd> hey guys I am having problem with my external monitor positioning and resolution is incorrect only on login screen
[07:31] <ennozdd> I am running ubuntu mate 18
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> ennozdd: is your graphics driver loaded correctly?
[08:00] <ennozdd> lotuspsychje: yes. Like I said it only happens on login screen. once I am logged in everything is fine
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ennozdd: thats weird indeed
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ennozdd: did it work before recently?
[08:05] <ennozdd> lotuspsychje: yes it was working fine until I installed i3wm. Something went wrong and I had to restart the OS but after that session manager broke
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: maybe you know ^
[08:07] <ducasse> ennozdd: which dm are you using? lightdm, gdm, other?
[08:10] <ennozdd> ducasse: ennozdd@ubuntuMT:~$ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:10] <ennozdd> /usr/sbin/lightdm
[08:12] <ennozdd> lotuspsychje: I don't think uninstalling i3wm willl solve my problem. it looks more like session manager or display manager or whatever change the resolution and position. when I log back in any window manager everything is fine
[08:13] <ducasse> try installing and switching to gdm, if that works you can even try switching back if you wish, it might just need a kick in the rear
[08:14] <ducasse> i'm running i3 with lightdm on two different machines, and it's working flawlessly, so it's not i3 itself
[08:17] <ennozdd> ducasse: thank you I will do that. should I also consider uninstalling the desktop environment?
[08:17] <ennozdd> if I am gonna use only i3
[08:17] <ducasse> no, not at all, that should
[08:17] <ducasse> no, not at all, that should not affect anything
[08:18] <ducasse> sorry, my cat stepped on the keybp
[08:18] <ennozdd> lol
[08:18] <ducasse> sorry, my cat stepped on the keyboard :)
[08:18] <ennozdd> okay thank you very much ducasse let me install gdm
[08:20] <ennozdd> ducasse: one more thing. I just clicked mate-tweak and mod key doesn't work anymore. It forces it's own configuration I guess
[08:21] <ennozdd> mod shift c+r doesn't seem to work either
[08:24] <ducasse> does it work in i3?
[08:26] <ennozdd> mod+shift+X works but mod+x doesn't work. I can't switch windows $mod+j doesn't do the trick for example. it all happened after I opened mate-tweak window( I didn't do anyting on it)
[08:30] <Latoiu> Hi - struggling a bit connection from my windows 10 via rdp to ubuntu 20.04. I activated screen sharing and allowed connections via wired connection and cant seem to connect. do you have an easy guide for me please ?
[08:45] <ducasse> Latoiu: i thought the standad screen sharing used vnc not rdp, but i might be wrong
[12:22] <k3tan> im looking for a way to open up the terminal and execute a few commands on startup of machine. the first command is `workon blocksat-api` which puts the terminal into a virtualenv, then second is to `cd /home/user/path/to/files` and third is to `./api_data_reader.py`. is there a way i can possibly automate all this and start up on boot?
[12:23] <k3tan> and the terminal shouldn't automatically close, i'd like to left open
[13:01] <tomreyn> k3tan: create a script with these three commands, copy /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/ then edit it, setting "Exec=gnome-terminal -- /path/to/your_script.sh" (without the quotation marks), and make further edits as you like, then add a symbolic link in ~/.config/autostart/ pointing to the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:02] <imi> hi. Is there a commandline command which instead of deleting the file/dir, moves it to the trash bin?
[14:06] <sonicwind> imi, I know there's a utility named trash-cli that allows you to do that
[14:06] <thyriaen> Hiho, i am running Gnome3 with Ubuntu with the dash to dock extension - when i install an application myself ( put it into /opt/foo ) and then create a desktop file for it so it appears in the launcher ( into ~/.local/share/applications/foo.desktop ) which includes a Icon=bar.svg line - it finds everything correctly, the icon, the exec path - however when i start the application it opens a new "empty" icon which represents the running
[14:06] <thyriaen> application close to my "desktop-link" icon - what did i do wrong ?
[14:07] <sonicwind> imi, https://www.2daygeek.com/trash-cli-command-line-trashcan-linux-system/
[14:16] <Groar> ubuntu is for gays
[14:17] <Groar> that's a fact
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Groar: not here please
[14:18] <Groar> where then?
[14:18] <imi> ok thanks
[14:22] <Maik> Groar:  actually not anywhere at all, there are rules and guidelines
[14:22] <Maik> lotuspsychje: ^
[14:23] <Groar> Maik: so I can't talk about this at home?
[14:23] <Maik> Groar: just stop trolling
[14:24] <Groar> who else thinks I'm trolling
[14:24] <Groar> I'm not
[14:24] <tomreyn> Groar: Please stop it. it's off-topic. Thanks.
[14:24] <Groar> you're welcome
[14:25] <DJones> Groar: Please leave that topic to private conversations, its not suitable for the #ubuntu* channels, Ubuntu is for everybody
[14:25] <Groar> so indeed it's for gays, and for other people. that was my question. thanks
[14:25] <Maik> Groar: have fun elsewhere not here, this is a support channel and you're being annoying, continuing with that results in removal and/or ban. Read the channel guidelines
[14:26] <Maik> see, you are trolling
[14:26] <tomreyn> Let's drop the topic and get back to support, everyone.
[14:27] <DJones> tomreyn: +1
[14:27] <Groar> +2
[14:32] <thyriaen> do you guys have an answer for my support question ?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: feel free to re-ask your issue so new joined volunteers can think along with you
[14:33] <thyriaen> okay
[14:33] <thyriaen> Hiho, i am running Gnome3 with Ubuntu with the dash to dock extension - when i install an application myself ( put it into /opt/foo ) and then create a desktop file for it so it appears in the launcher ( into ~/.local/share/applications/foo.desktop ) which includes a Icon=bar.svg line - it finds everything correctly, the icon, the exec path - however when i start the application it opens a new "empty" icon which represents the running

[14:33] <thyriaen> application close to my "desktop-link" icon - what did i do wrong ?
[14:34] <Groar> too long, I'll wait for the DVD version
[14:37] <Maik> Groar:  #ubuntu-offtopic is for casual talk and have fun there and have a nice day.
[14:46] <tomreyn> thyriaen: maybe this helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/648434/why-does-my-custom-launcher-open-under-a-separate-icon
[14:46] <thyriaen> ah, nice thanks tomreyn
[15:11] <lucenera> Hi, I have enabled livepatch on a server but it has an incompatible kernel version. When I tried to disable it I got the message about incompatibility.
[15:11] <lucenera> How can I be sure that the token is now not wasted on that server? Is there a dashboard to manage the devices connected to the service?
[15:18] <tomreyn> lucenera: i'm not aware of one. but livepatch is a Canonical service really, and we're mostly volunteers here - you might better contact them directly.
[15:20] <nunya_> When I try to pause the game it only pauses for a second then resumes. I used to be able to pause the game, go do something else. How do I configure Armagetronad to do that when I press p ?
[15:20] <nunya_>  I have googled but found no results for how to do this in Armagetronad. I have edited ~/.armagetronad/var/user.cfg     " KEYBOARD 112 PLAYER_BIND PAUSE_GAME 0" I changed the value from 0 to 1. That caused no pause at all so I changed it back to 0
[15:21] <lucenera> tomreyn thanks.
[15:22] <nunya_> I tried Hotkey settings in ssytem settings but there is no key for pause and I don't know the command to set a custom hotkey.
[15:25] <tomreyn> lucenera: according to https://ubuntu.com/advantage , "sudo ua status" should tell whether a given system is still registered (but I see how that's not the central view you're looking for).
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> nunya_: there's a nice #gamingonlinux community that might perhaps know the game
Part of my question , is  there a universal pause command I can bind to the p key?
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> nunya_: there is media-keys/pause value in dconf but not sure that will work for your game
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> nunya_: check dconf-editor to see all tweaks/values on your system
[15:36] <DJones> w 20
[15:51] <pjs> question - how do I get the default font? Ie, in my terminal config (st) I just have "mono" but if I install a new font, half the time it replaces my terminal font. So I just want to get whatever the default is now and hard code it into st
[15:53] <nunya_> Does anyone know how to configure Xchat to only beep when someone replies to my message not every message?
[15:57] <nunya_>  Someone in gamingonlinux said that it was due to a bug in ubuntu sending spurious activation events, tied with armagetron's unpause on activation but had no solution. Anyone have any ideas?
re:" there is media-keys/pause value in dconf but not sure that will work for your game" How do I get to it?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> nunya_: dconf-editor has a search function, type pause
[16:09] <random1> hey whats a good program to setup on my android to remotely view my ubuntu?
[16:11] <thyriaen> random1, you mean as a vnc client ?
[16:12] <morris> teamwiew???
[16:12] <random1> yeah i mean vnc viewer was what i was thinking, really trying to setup a computer for a friends kid and she wants to watch what he does on it lol
[16:12] <random1> figured vnc viewer running in the background or something.
[16:12] <random1> she has this old windows xp lol. so im going to rig it up with ubuntu instead ;P
[16:13] <random1> couldnt sleep well at night if i left her with a windows xp running. just doesnt seem right haha
[16:14] <compdoc> XP is horrible now
Thanks the closest I found was the media key binding but don't want to screw that up.
[16:16] <random1> compdoc: trust me i know lol. She couldnt figure out the password to her old XP and i said i could get past the password np but that would be the least of her issues. Figured ubuntu would be the best route tbch
[16:17] <random1> also need to find some type of adult filter website thing now to keep him restricted from websites. *face palm*
[16:19] <random1> blah. alright i found smething. appreciate the vnc viewer comment.
[16:19] <random1> something
If he's old enough to find adult sites and not be grossed out by them he's probably old enough to look at them. My only concern would be computer viruses!
[16:20] <random1> nunya_: lol its not my choice. i would say "Explore away!" hes 10. I remember the AOL days and uploading porn pictures that took forever lmao. But moms will be moms. Cant argue with her :P
[16:20] <random1> have to make it like fort knocks
[16:21] <random1> downloading*
I would also make sure he has no way to alter the system! Definitely keep sudo password secret!
[16:22] <random1> just create a guest user on it
[16:22] <random1> update it. put firefox on it. get some type of "watch dog" program running.
[16:23] <random1> well firefox is on it already but configure it right so no future problems hopefully..
[16:23] <random1> really feeling hesitant about doing this. i feel like im going to be getting called over because somethings going to mess up somehow.
[16:24] <random1> alright i got to go. sleep deprived and chatting like this is a chat room. appreciate the VNC reminder.
[16:24] <eia1x> can i change the qmmp icon (qt-based app)? I've already tried to change the icon tag in /usr/share/applications/ (with sudo updatedb)...
I just changed the qmmp icon by opening /usr/share/applications, right clicked on location, open in terminal sudo chown nunya /usr/share/applications/qmmp.desktop. Now you can edit the qmmp.desktop with text editor. Go to icon portion of file, enter full path to new icon. Save qmmp.desktop
[17:04] <geosmile> When one administers a lot of machines - what is the preferred way to do sudo from a remote machine?
[17:05] <Psi-Jack> Huh?
[17:05] <Psi-Jack> You don't "sudo from a remote machine"
[17:06] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, how do you administer 50 machines? Run apt-get update by ssh-ing 50 times?
[17:07] <Psi-Jack> Well... Yes.
[17:08] <Psi-Jack> Or use system orchestration tools, but updates, you tend to want to be careful about in many situations that might potentially be breaking business computers. Depending on many potential situations, of course.
[17:09] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, which tool? I'm trying to use ansible - but I'm not sure what is the correct way to setup things
[17:09] <lnxslck> Psi-Jack: which tool?
[17:09] <lnxslck> geosmile: you should try saltstack
[17:11] <Psi-Jack> ansible, salt (I'm not referring recommendations to salt anymore due to continuous breaking of core functionality), rudder, rudder+ansible, and, specifically, for update management, paid update management services designed for exactly this.
[17:11] <Psi-Jack> clusterssh, even has potential, for something like that.
[17:12] <Psi-Jack> It really depends /on what/ you want to be doing.
[17:12] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, just update/upgrade and install/remove packages
[17:12] <tomreyn> yet another option would be to not carry out upgrades, but to deploy software and configuration often.
[17:12] <tomreyn> *release upgrades
[17:13] <geosmile> tomreyn, isnt it true that if one does not do update/upgrades - it can lead to security vulnerabilities?
[17:13] <Psi-Jack> Software installation should generally be done with config management or policy management like Rudder.
[17:13] <Psi-Jack> Updates of said software could either be automatically updated, per the policy, or otherwise monitored by various means.
[17:13] <lnxslck> Psi-Jack: what continuous breaking? I havent had an issue since I can remember
[17:14] <tomreyn> geosmile: you should still install updates within the release. i was just considering an entirely different concept, which may not be for you, i.e. the containerized software deployment (docker/kubernetes) approach
[17:14] <Psi-Jack> lnxslck, It can vary, a lot. I've managed thousands of servers, over various countries, different clients, different distributions, different requirements, even freaking FDA requirements for locked versions of software associated with specific documentation and change control requirements.
[17:15] <geosmile> tomreyn, i just need to be able to see "update/upgrade" - required, and be able to fire literally "apt upgrade -y"
[17:15] <Psi-Jack> Ugh. docker.. NO!
[17:15] <geosmile> tomreyn, this is pre-docker talk i think
[17:15] <lnxslck> Psi-Jack: I only manage Ubuntu servers, 1 Fedora and 2 Debians, but never had an issue
[17:16] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, what are some good update management softwares? I see landscape - but they want to charge 1c/hour/machine - which is too expensive for me.
[17:16] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Huge difference in doing small time, versus huge.
[17:16] <lnxslck> is Rudder this one? https://www.rudder.io/
[17:16] <geosmile> lnxslck, slatstack vs ansible - I'm just more familiar with ansible - so would go ansible route. But in that case, I've to setup a user with sudo (without password) on all my machines
[17:17] <lnxslck> geosmile: does Ansible maitains states like Salt? I remember when I used it, it didnt
[17:17] <Psi-Jack> Rudder doesn't specifically manage system updates, HOWEVER it can, if you design it to run a system update technique of your choice, every so often.
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> focus on ubuntu support issues please
[17:19] <Psi-Jack> geosmile, So, last thing I can say, some of these support Ubuntu. Automox for example is one. https://www.comparitech.com/net-admin/best-linux-patch-management-tools/  -- Further talk would be better in -offtopic as suggested.
[17:19] <Psi-Jack> or wouldn't #ubuntu-server be suitable for this too?
[17:20] <geosmile> Psi-Jack, Going to ubuntu-server now
[17:41] <TheMadDrizzle> Hoping someone can help me.  I'm on a laptop that's running 18.10, and I am unable to get the upgrade to work.  I have been following the guide here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades" with no joy.  It still fails stating upgrade not possible from 'cosmic' to 'focal'
[17:41] <lnxslck> TheMadDrizzle: have you upgraded everything before? is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade clean?
[17:42] <TheMadDrizzle> lnxslck, update / upgrade / dist-upgrade all state that there is nothing to install / update
[17:43] <TheMadDrizzle> lnxslck, I just removed update-manager and update-manager core, cleared apt cache and reinstalled - apt is working for updates, but they're locked to a certain version due to EOL.
[17:44] <tomreyn> TheMadDrizzle: can you share some output (and commands that created this output)?
[17:44] <tomreyn> it's not yet clear whichis the very point where you're getting stuck
[17:44] <TheMadDrizzle> Sure.  Which outputs / logs would you like to see?
[17:44] <tomreyn> "It still fails stating upgrade not possible from 'cosmic' to 'focal'"
[17:45] <tomreyn> whatever stated this
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> one sec...
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> output below....  sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore.
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> For upgrade information, please visit:
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Get:1 Upgrade tool signature [1,554 B]
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Get:2 Upgrade tool [1,340 kB]
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> Fetched 1,342 kB in 0s (0 B/s)
[17:45] <TheMadDrizzle> authenticate 'focal.tar.gz' against 'focal.tar.gz.gpg'
[17:45] <tomreyn> !paste
[17:46] <TheMadDrizzle> extracting 'focal.tar.gz'
[17:46] <TheMadDrizzle> Reading cache
[17:46] <TheMadDrizzle> Checking package manager
[17:46] <TheMadDrizzle> Can not upgrade
[17:46] <TheMadDrizzle> An upgrade from 'cosmic' to 'focal' is not supported with this tool.
[17:46] <Maik> dude
[17:46] <Maik> 18.10 is EOL and that's why it isn't working. You need to do a clean install
[17:47] <Maik> 18.04 to 20.04 isn't a problem
[17:47] <Maik> TheMadDrizzle: also if it's a 32bit version it won't work
[17:48] <TheMadDrizzle> There's no way for me to get to 19.04?
[17:48] <Maik> 32bit isn't supported anymore
[17:48] <Maik> TheMadDrizzle: 19.04 is also EOL
[17:48] <tomreyn> 18.10 to 20.04 should be possible by editing sources.list (but not for 32-bit x86, true)
[17:48] <TheMadDrizzle> I hadn't thought of it being 32 bit.
[17:49] <tomreyn> is it, though?
[17:49] <Maik> check it to make sure
[17:49] <TheMadDrizzle> should be through uname -a, right?
[17:49] <tomreyn> dpkg --print-architecture
[17:50] <TheMadDrizzle> returns amd64
[17:51] <tomreyn> so you can try to upgrade as discussed on the EOLUpgrades page, using the method which involves editing apt sources. the explanation is not great, though, and the upgrade, like your current release, is unsupported.
[17:51] <tomreyn> if a fresh installation is an option, i'd also prefer that
[17:51] <tomreyn> has this system been running during the past two years when it lacked security patches?
[17:52] <TheMadDrizzle> tomreyn, I've tried following that guide three times editing sources.list to no avail.
[17:53] <TheMadDrizzle> No, it's been put up.  Trying to get just a few games for my little one to play.  It's just lacking ALL updates for probably the past year.
[17:54] <tomreyn> at least the last two years, since there were none made available for this end-of-life release then.
[17:54] <TheMadDrizzle> Yeah, a fresh install is what I'm going to do then.
[17:54] <tomreyn> i think the best approach for you will be backing up and a fresh install of a supported release.
[17:54] <tomreyn> right
[17:56] <TheMadDrizzle> At this point I've spent longer trying to fix this laptop than it woulda taken for the fresh install.
[18:06] <robertparkerx> I want to use a ppa to upgrade php to 7.4 instead of upgrading to 20.04 because I don't know what to do with the sources list. How do I find out what modules/extensions I'm using with 7.2 so I can remember to install them after installing 7.4 with the ppa? Is there anything else I should remember to do as well?
[18:06] <robertparkerx> ty in advance
[18:13] <coconut> robertparkerx, apt list --installed php7.2-*
[18:16] <wolf_raven> yo
[18:16] <wolf_raven> is there are channel for ubuntu server?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> wolf_raven: #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <wolf_raven> thanks, appreciate it
[18:24] <thdootdootman> Sorry, that didn't work. Please try again!
[18:24] <thdootdootman> why can't i log in
[18:25] <rnm> wrong password
[18:26] <thdootdootman> right idiot. me, i mean. i figured it out.
[19:05] <aldcor> hi! do you know how to use webcam in wine?
[19:05] <aldcor> enabling it
[19:13] <coconut> When creating an iso with dd from a partition, will the size of it then be chosen by the data on it, or by the size of the partition?
[19:15] <compdoc> coconut, hopefully, there's an option to write only the data, otherwise it might not fit
[19:16] <coconut> And when putting the iso back to the partition, does the partition then has to have the same size as before creating the iso?
[19:17] <compdoc> I use clonezilla. you might ask in ##linux if no one is here atm
[19:18] <coconut> compdoc, thnx... i am talking about a default if and of with dd.
[19:24] <pokid> has anyone else experienced firefox getting sort of progressively slower and more buggy over the last 2-3 versions? I don't know what it is, basically only using uMatrix, otherwise no other plugins installed.
[19:31] <pavlos> coconut: dd will copy partitions, not the size of data. You can have a 100GB partition with just 10GB data, dd will copy 100GB
[19:35] <quadrathoch2> pokid for me it got faster (with 15+ addons)
[19:37] <coconut> thanks pavlos! :)
[19:37] <Jayx276> Hello. How does Ubuntu automatically partition disk. My disk was partitioned by one efi partition(512mb) and rest ext4. I managed to overwrite the first 50mb and lost both partitions - test disk cannot recover partitions. The disk is 120034123776 bytes and 234441648 sectors
[19:40] <compdoc> that sounds like how ubuntu partitions disks if you done slect LVM
[19:41] <compdoc> *if you dont
[19:41] <Jayx276> Yes. No lvm
[19:41] <pavlos> Jayx276: boot from a live iso, and use gparted to rescue partitions.
[19:42] <Jayx276> Ok I will try that
[20:01] <dust> how to increase the swap space in 20.10
[20:06] <Maik> dust: if it's a swap file https://linuxhandbook.com/increase-swap-ubuntu/
[20:07] <dust> Maik, its the standard 20.10 install... so i think its a file... thx
[20:08] <Maik> yes it is  then and you're welcome
[20:08] <Guma> TJ-: Hello
[20:10] <dust> Maik, its a partition... who does come to the idea to make a swap partition with 980mb? there was no setting about it at installing...
[20:12] <Guma> TJ-: I did try your other day suggestion for udev rule to add ACTIOn for my modem. It is not working for me. I can pastebin my rule and you can spot something?
[20:15] <dust>  /dev/dm-1 partition 980M   0B   -2
[20:15] <Guma> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/suhn54Yu
[20:18] <Maik> dust: eh? If 20.10 was a standard install it should at least be a 2GB swap file on a 4GB RAM system
[20:18] <Guma> Actually here is updated link https://pastebin.com/Jv91m9Nh
[20:19] <Guma> Or maybe anyone else can spot what I am missing in my udev rule?
[20:19] <dust> Maik, 8gb ram... i would like to have at least 8gb swap... better 16gb... dunno why i only got only that small swap
[20:19] <dust> question is how can i change that
[20:20] <TJ-> Guma: I'm busy with other things, but your rule looks fragile in that it is matching on something that may not remain constant: KERNELS=="1-2.2*"   --- the usb host/bus/device can and does change
[20:20] <Maik> dust: ubuntu automatically sets up a swap file of 2GB even on a system with 8GB
[20:20] <TJ-> Guma: For USB best to match on vendor:device IDs
[20:21] <dust> Maik, it dosnt... otherwise it would be bigger...
[20:21] <Maik> dust: best to google for it on how to increase the partition, there should be guides out there
[20:22] <TJ-> Guma: also, in your last pastebin "save it in /dev/udev/rules.d" <--- should be /etc/udev/rules.d
[20:22] <Maik> dust: on my system it's 2GB and i have 8GB RAM
[20:22] <Guma> TJ-: Ok thank you for pointing KERNELS. Opps aout /dev/ it is /etc :)
[20:23] <TJ-> Guma: I thought that last was just a typo :)
[20:23] <TJ-> Guma: but... I've seen people do that kind of thing so best to check
[20:24] <jeremy31> Guma: like  ATTR{idVendor}=="0bda", ATTR{idProduct}=="1a2b"
[20:24] <Guma> TJ-: :) long night and too much or not enough coffee. Not sure at this point
[20:24] <TJ-> Guma: I know the feeling - been at it (research + coding in a 'new' field) for 36 hours here
[20:25] <dust> Maik, does using lvm make a difference?
[20:26] <dust> can it be that /dev/dm-1 partition 980M   0B   -2 is a file and no partition?
[20:27] <Guma> Ok so I should not relay on KERNEL and simply use ATTR like jeremy31 pointed out. That is safer? Also what is best documentation about udev I can fully read?
[20:31] <TJ-> Guma: "man udev" and http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[20:31] <jeremy31> Guma: That was actually copied from a udev rule for usb-modeswitch, it would be reliable, just change the ID info to match your device
[20:32] <TJ-> Guma: bear in mind web-pages tend to age; that one is 12 years old!
[20:33] <Guma> Ok tx guys :) Let me read and try few things.
[20:48] <coconut> Are NTFS partitions by default writable these days with ubuntu?
[20:49] <DreamPCS> Yes, as far as I know.
[20:50] <coconut> :)
[21:04] <geosmile> sudo add-apt-repository --update ppa:landscape/19.10 -- if one installs landscape on 18.04LTS - this is the right ppa?
[21:06] <DreamPCS> Looks like it. https://docs.ubuntu.com/landscape/en/landscape-install-quickstart
[21:07] <geosmile> DreamPCS, on 18.04LTS it does not work
[21:08] <DreamPCS> Does it give you an error of some sort?
[21:10] <geosmile> E: Unable to locate package landscape-server-quickstart
[21:18] <DreamPCS> Did you receive any errors when you added the ppa?
[21:18] <DreamPCS> sudo add-apt-repository --update ppa:landscape/19.10
[21:19] <DreamPCS> That command, was there any errors?
[21:19] <DreamPCS> And did you run sudo apt update after?
[21:46] <filz0r> Hello there, I'm not sure if I should be bringing this here but I have no way to report this on the Ubuntu website...
[21:47] <jeremy31> filz0r: What is it?
[21:47] <filz0r> I was trying to update a fresh install on a ubuntu VM, and I was unable to do so, I thought there was something wrong with my network settings, however after digging arround for a while I found out that the actual repo from where my systems update is actually down
[21:48] <filz0r> I was able to update from the american repo, however the pt.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[21:49] <filz0r> If you try to ping it the request will timeout
[21:51] <jeremy31> filz0r: Not sure what is going on but I can access it and view it in web browser http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[21:51] <coconut> filz0r, you should report this type of problem to #ubuntu-mirror
[21:56] <filz0r> Oh it seems like the issue is fixed now, I am able to update my package lists
[21:56] <filz0r> Strange just 30 min ago I was unable, but seems like someone fixed this issue in the meantime
[21:56] <filz0r> Thanks for giving me pointers in case this happens again
[22:17] <aleph-> So question, will 18LTS have openssh-server 8+ available at all? Getting pinged on some security issues and don't have the time to upgrade yet?
[22:18] <aleph-> Seeing that only 7.6 is available when I query all repositories.
[22:25] <jeremy31> aleph-: check the changelog to see if the security fixes got backported to 7.6
[22:27] <DreamPCS> Hey, I have a quick question that hopefully you guys can help me with. If I increase the specs on my linux CLOUD machine, will the OS automatically use it? I want to increase the size of the hard drive on my cloud server, I'm wondering if ubuntu will use this extra space or if I need to somehow format the extra space.
[22:32] <TJ-> DreamPCS: you'll have to do something, but exactly what depends on the provider and how the virtual machine is set up
[22:33] <aleph-> jeremy31: Yeah should have done that first, doy.
[22:36] <geosmile> DreamPCS, no errors - apart from that one
[22:37] <geosmile> perhaps landscape is broken already?
[22:38] <DreamPCS> Thanks TJ
[22:39] <DreamPCS> qeosmile: It sounds like either the repository wasn't added or the package isn't available in that respository, which would be odd. To be sure, you have to run sudo apt update after you add a new respository, did you do that?
[23:25] <bray90820> I have a bash script that is behaving differently when run with crontab vs running i manually and i am not sure why when run with cron the script creates a parent directory called data athe permissions are different and no files are copyed
[23:25] <bray90820> Here is the script and how the permissions https://pastebin.com/raw/R8WsuxMQ https://pastebin.com/raw/S5ZgXiY3
[23:47] <jhave> Hello, i try to give my Ubuntu 18.04 a native static IPv6 adresse but netplan dont like it :(
[23:47] <jhave> i config is
[23:47] <jhave> https://gist.github.com/jhaveDK/db4a8ffe4417d6be6768847c42e2c262
[23:48] <jhave> Any there can see what i do wrong ?
[23:58] <_Sym_> jhave, when I wanted my vpn to use ipv6, I had to add the address to gai.conf. I don't know if that is the same thing.