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| ubptgbot | <TotalSonic> @Mark S [any hints on how to get this through the installation?], Maybe try a different usb cable - sometimes they can be finicky | 00:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @TotalSonic [Maybe try a different usb cable - sometimes they can be finicky], I tried a few different cables but it still says that the connection is lost. Should adb be able to detect the device when it is at the boot loader screen? | 00:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> this phone was bought used and I didn't even go through all of the motions to set it up. As soon as it arrived I put it in developer mode and then followed the instructions for the installer. | 00:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> even though I can't seem to boot the phone now, Recovery Options is the UBPorts options. But I can't get the installer and the phone to sync. | 00:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> can I choose `Android Options` -> `Apply Update` to have it finish the install without the installer? | 00:22 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Can I make a Debian Sid container with Libertine or is it restricted to Ubuntu distributions? | 00:23 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> I even have a LXC .img I'd like to reuse already if I can, but else creating a new one would do. I'd prefer that over a Ubuntu container if possible. | 00:24 |
| ubptgbot | WATERS ZAMBONI was added by: WATERS ZAMBONI | 00:26 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] I even have a LXC rootfs I'd like to reuse already if I can, but else creating a new one would do. I'd prefer that over a Ubuntu container if possible. | 00:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @mladenb [thank you! kb trick worked :))], You can also swipe up from the keyboard iirc | 00:43 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Mark S [can I choose Android Options -> Apply Update to have it finish the install witho …], No that won't work, try running the installer while it is in recovery mode | 00:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @kabouik [Can I make a Debian Sid container with Libertine or is it restricted to Ubuntu d …], That's definitely possible if your device supports lxc | 00:53 |
| ubptgbot | Paolo LYNN was added by: Paolo LYNN | 00:54 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> It does in SailfishOS, I want to use my Debian container from SFOS, but I seen to be getting issues when trying to create a lxc container using Libertine | 00:54 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Maybe I should just try to tranfer the rootfs to the UBports device | 00:55 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> Not sure how much libertine differs from what sailfish uses for containers | 00:57 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> ok - I managed to get it installed on the Nexus 5 after manually putting it in recovery mode at the right stage of the installer. | 01:26 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> my next challenge is figure out why wifi doesn't work :D | 01:26 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> yay— eh? it should just work, does it have a correct mac adress? like not just 000000 or something | 01:29 |
| ubptgbot | <nsensfel> Is it a 5Ghz wifi signal? I was Googling to see if the phone supported it (it does), and there are reports of people struggling to connect to those: https://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/finding-5ghz-wifi-signal-t2512372 | 01:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> I don't think it's a signal issue (there are lots of routers and signals around me) since the wifi list is completely empty and I don't even see that I have a wireless interface. | 01:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> the loopback interface is the only one I see | 01:36 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> eh? | 01:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> how are you checking to see the interface? | 01:45 |
| ubptgbot | index0h was added by: index0h | 02:02 |
| ubptgbot | <stef46ca> (Sticker, 512x391) https://irc.ubports.com/QqOBc4yH.webp | 02:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @Fuseteam [how are you checking to see the interface?], `ifconfig` | 02:25 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> but `ls /sys/class/net` also only lists `lo`, `rev_*`, `rmnetX` and `sit0` | 02:26 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> On Fluffychat, I had a handle which I no longer wish to be associated with. I also rarely use Matrix, so I left it on my laptop but uninstalled it from my Pro 5. However, the circle message info from Fluffychat is still there. How can I remove it? | 02:33 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> Also, perhaps a good feature for it moving forwards would be to make the message optional, or customisable so it doesn't show your handle. | 02:33 |
| ubptgbot | shiny_argento was added by: shiny_argento | 02:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> Nexus 5 install - wifi interface missing. `nmcli device` output: … ril_0 (gsm) … sit0 (iptunnel) … lo (loopback) … wireless interface should be here but it's missing :'( | 02:38 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Mark S [ifconfig], hmmm | 02:40 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Mark S [Nexus 5 install - wifi interface missing. nmcli device output: … ril_0 (gsm) … sit0 …], have tried turning it off and on btw? | 02:41 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @TartanSpartan [Also, perhaps a good feature for it moving forwards would be to make the message …], that's up to the app utilizing the stat circle | 02:43 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> i suppose it should no longer show up after a while | 02:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> you can also switch away from it by double tapping | 02:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @Fuseteam [have tried turning it off and on btw?], I have tried rebooting the phone but I don't even have the option to turn on and off the wireless adapter. The toggle button just isn't there as if there is no wifi adapter. | 02:48 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @UniversalSuperBox [The exact methods that Google uses to enforce their browser restrictions appear …], Soon we may not be able to log into anything even in morph, has anyone tried the header check to see if qtwebengine will login after jan | 02:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> hmmu | 02:49 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @mateosalta [Soon we may not be able to log into anything even in morph, has anyone tried the …], No | 02:50 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @mateosalta [Soon we may not be able to log into anything even in morph, has anyone tried the …], [Edit] No, untested | 02:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] hmmmm | 02:50 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @UniversalSuperBox [The exact methods that Google uses to enforce their browser restrictions appear …], [Edit] Soon we may not be able to log into anything(from google) even in morph, has anyone tried the header check to see if qtwebengine will login after jan | 02:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> there isn't a known bug with wifi on hammerhead is there? | 02:50 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> They posted a blog saying all chromium embedded frameworks will be blocked | 02:51 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @Fuseteam [there isn't a known bug with wifi on hammerhead is there?], not to my knowledge. Was using mine earlier today with no problem | 02:51 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Mark S [I have tried rebooting the phone but I don't even have the option to turn on and …], did it work under android? | 02:51 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Maybe the baseband firmware needs to be upgraded | 02:51 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> this was a fresh phone that I bought (used) that was on the factory reset state when I started the install | 02:52 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Was it on the newest version of Android? | 02:52 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> hmmm | 02:52 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> I don't know - I was too excited to get UT installed | 02:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> that I didn't update anything | 02:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> or check the version | 02:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> your excitement is appreciated fwiw | 02:54 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> can I update the baseband firmware if I connect a gsm sim? | 02:55 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @Fuseteam [your excitement is appreciated fwiw], 👍😂 | 02:55 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> No, it must be done by taking the firmware from a factory image from Google or via OTA updates in Android | 02:55 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @PhoenixLandPirate [Doesn't Google have some alternative login thing with creating one time password …], i think there was one way "applications on limited-imput devices" it would use a seperate device like your laptop for a code | 02:59 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @UniversalSuperBox [No, it must be done by taking the firmware from a factory image from Google or v …], so how can I revert back to Android to make the updates? | 03:00 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> You can grab a factory image from Google. Allow me to find the link | 03:00 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> https://developers.google.com/android/images | 03:00 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> "hammerhead" for Nexus 5 | 03:00 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> These are a little more involved. You can also get the "Full OTA Images" and use TWRP to install them. | 03:01 |
| ubptgbot | <PhoenixLandPirate> @mateosalta [i think there was one way "applications on limited-imput devices" it would use a …], Yeah I used it for thunderbird once or twice | 03:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> but that's not the same as using it through browser | 03:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] but that's not the same as using it through the browser | 03:03 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> it might be somewhat reasonable | 03:03 |
| ubptgbot | <mateosalta> @Fuseteam [but that's not the same as using it through the browser], well, we aren't really using the browser for sync :P | 03:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> aren't those also "one time" use anyway :p | 03:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @mateosalta [well, we aren't really using the browser for sync :P], yeah that too :p | 03:04 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> @Fuseteam [you can also switch away from it by double tapping], Indeed, but in the event that someone sneaks a look at my phone, or worse, steals it, I'd want the message gone for good. | 03:07 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> hmmm | 03:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @UniversalSuperBox [These are a little more involved. You can also get the "Full OTA Images" and use …], I have never used TWRP before but it sounds safer since I'm not sure which version of the 6.0.1 OTA image to install (do I just grab the one on the top MMB29X?) or are these images somehow associated with my device type? which I assume | 03:13 |
| ubptgbot | in my excitement I lost the chance to verify?) … "hammerhead" for Nexus 5 (GSM/LTE) … Description Download SHA-256 Checksum … 6.0.1 (MMB29X) … 6.0.1 (MOB30D) … 6.0.1 (MOB30H) … 6.0.1 (MOB30M) … 6.0.1 (MOB30P) … 6.0.1 (MOB30Y) … 6.0.1 (MOB31E) … 6.0.1 (M4B30X, Oct 2016) … 6.0.1 (M4B30Z, Dec 2016) | 03:13 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> The last one, it's the latest in the device's lifetime | 03:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @UniversalSuperBox [The last one, it's the latest in the device's lifetime], 6.0.1 (M4B30Z, Dec 2016)? | 03:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> so is the process to `fastboot flash recovery twrp.img` and then once TWRP is installed it will ask me for the location of the OTA image? | 03:16 |
| ubptgbot | Quaranta elizabeth was added by: Quaranta elizabeth | 03:43 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> People who know how to remove Anbox in UT? And then I tried to remove the anbox-ubuntu-touch package, but the android application icons still remained in the menu | 04:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Shakendo> @im_not_dead_seiwer [People who know how to remove Anbox in UT? And then I tried to remove the anbox- …], known issue, no one has worked on anbox in a while though, word is they have someone for anbox, but they havent started yet | 04:05 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Shakendo [known issue, no one has worked on anbox in a while though, word is they have som …], It turns out that I can only remove it by reinstalling the system? | 04:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> or manually deleting the desktop icons | 04:07 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [or manually deleting the desktop icons], I don't know how to do it | 04:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> i'm not entirely sure where those icons are stored atm | 04:11 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [i'm not entirely sure where those icons are stored atm], It's a pity that there is no such function in the tweaker | 04:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> that's because anbox is experimental pre-alpha software | 04:16 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [that's because anbox is experimental pre-alpha software], Well, the preliminary alpha is okay ... But now this alpha must be miraculously removed | 04:17 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> By the way, how can you use file storage in NextCloud in UT? Otherwise, I did not understand how to drop files there | 04:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, the preliminary alpha is okay ... But now this alpha must be miraculously …], the experiments preliminary pre-alpha issues include that :p | 04:28 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> tbf it shouldn't be too hard to remove the remnant desktop files, once we've pin-pointed them | 04:30 |
| ubptgbot | <NotKit> find -name *.desktop in home folder :) | 04:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @im_not_dead_seiwer [By the way, how can you use file storage in NextCloud in UT? Otherwise, I did no …], nextcloud file sync usually works with a client, ghostcloud may be an option fwiw | 04:30 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [nextcloud file sync usually works with a client, ghostcloud may be an option fwi …], No, it doesn't work alas ... It just ignores me when I try to log into my account | 04:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> i can log in fine iirc | 04:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> you need the webdav link if your using a localinstance | 04:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] you need the webdav link if you're using a local instance | 04:33 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @im_not_dead_seiwer [<reply to media>], Damn, I seriously don't understand what he doesn't like ... I'm trying everything and trying and I can't fix it in any way ... What to do.... | 04:58 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> eh? | 05:03 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [eh?], Well, the synchronization went for bread and never came back ... As a result, the application just lies like garbage and does not want to synchronize | 05:35 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> I decided to go to NextCloud through my PC and see this message "Many unsuccessful login attempts were made from your IP address. The next attempt can be done in 30 seconds." … And I want to tell my phone only one thing .... "WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE ?!" | 05:55 |
| ubptgbot | dadmal was added by: dadmal | 06:01 |
| ubptgbot | <Fabio> i | 06:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Fabio> R | 06:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Fabio> F | 06:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Fabio> f | 06:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Fabio> App with libertine xiaomi redmi 7 does not work. Some tips | 06:36 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> (Photo, 640x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0peGna5h.png | 09:16 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Oxy Kali [<reply to media>], wow...... its....perfect | 09:25 |
| ubptgbot | <Tzbluk> Is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu touch and Android yet? | 09:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> @im_not_dead_seiwer [wow...... its....perfect], Thanks | 09:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @Tzbluk [Is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu touch and Android yet?], No, sorry | 09:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Tzbluk> @Flohack [No, sorry], Aii thanks | 09:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @im_not_dead_seiwer [I decided to go to NextCloud through my PC and see this message "Many unsuccessf …], sounds like something went wrong with your logins in ghostcloud; is your nextcloud local? | 09:44 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [sounds like something went wrong with your logins in ghostcloud; is your nextclo …], No, this is the standard provider Tab.Digital | 09:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> ......huh? | 09:47 |
| ubptgbot | <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [......huh?], My provider is not local, but the one that, according to the standard, offers NexCloud to choose from when registering .... to be more precise, nd.nl.tab.digital with 8 GB of free space | 09:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> ohw you're using a nextcloud provider hmmm | 09:54 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> try with the webdav url anyway | 09:56 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> go to the files section on your provider site, click on settings there should be an url for webdav | 09:57 |
| ubptgbot | <J H> @Oxy Kali [<reply to media>], super nice ! which GPS did you install ? | 10:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Schmuel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/RXUfJx6q.webp | 10:14 |
| ubptgbot | <nsensfel> I'm playing around with a prefixed install so that I can compile stuff and have up-to-date software. Learning about how things works as I go. I'm sad to see that even with its latest version, Weston does not have hardware acceleration (I haven't compiled other Wayland applications yet, but I assume they will have similar limitations). Fr | 11:09 |
| ubptgbot | om the Wiki page for Wayland, I gather Weston properly interfaces with Wayland, but there is an issue with the EGL interface. I assume (I don't see any error message, so it's kind of a blind guess) the root of the issue is that this interface relies on a library that should provide/use the drivers for the graphics and in my case (a Pro1 phone), the | 11:09 |
| ubptgbot | se drivers are actually provided by libhybris and Weston doesn't interface with it. Is this correct? Would this require special bindings, or can libhybris in some way be selected as user mode graphics drivers that is transparent to Weston? | 11:09 |
| ubptgbot | <nsensfel> [Edit] I'm playing around with a prefixed install so that I can compile stuff and have up-to-date software. Learning about how things works as I go. I'm sad to see that even with its latest version, Weston does not have hardware acceleration (I haven't compiled other Wayland applications yet, but I assume they will have similar limitatio | 11:10 |
| ubptgbot | ns). From the Wiki page for Wayland, I gather Weston properly interfaces with Wayland, but there is an issue with the EGL interface. I assume (I don't see any error message, so it's kind of a blind guess) the root of the issue is that this interface relies on a library that should provide/use the drivers for the graphics and in my case (a Pro1 phon | 11:10 |
| ubptgbot | e), these drivers are actually provided by libhybris and Weston doesn't interface with it. Is this correct? Would this require special bindings, or can libhybris be selected as user mode graphics drivers in some way that is transparent to Weston? | 11:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> fwiw weston is a reference implementation | 11:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] fwiw weston is a reference implementation of a wayland compositor and mir is a wayland compositor. the issues you face with weston is likely also the hurdles the core team faces with migrating to wayland on android devices as such https://t.me/ubports_devel is likely a better place to discuss this | 11:25 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] fwiw weston is a reference implementation of a wayland compositor and mir is a wayland compositor. the issues you face with weston is likely also the hurdles the core team faces with migrating to wayland on android devices as such https://t.me/ubports_devel is likely a better place to discuss the technical details | 11:26 |
| ubptgbot | <nsensfel> Alright, thanks, I've asked on the other channel. 👍 | 11:33 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> I need a spreadsheet to work directly on the device. I've got Gnumeric installed but it doesn't pop up the OSK and I don't have an external keyboard at hand. Is there any way to force the OSK to be displayed? | 11:37 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> i once managed to install an osk in libertine and got it to spawn in the same window as another app. looked hacky as hell but worked. but i have no clue what i did back then. | 11:40 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> it involved launching from terminal | 11:40 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [it involved launching from terminal], Launching the app or triggering the OSK? | 11:41 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> Or a specific OSK paackage? | 11:41 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> launching the osk and/or the app. no triggering, the osk is in an open window | 11:42 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> [Edit] Or a specific OSK package? | 11:42 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> and needs to be in the same xsession together with the app you want to use it in | 11:42 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> don't remember which package it was but it was a really simple keyboard | 11:43 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [don't remember which package it was but it was a really simple keyboard], Thanks, I'll have a look. | 11:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Nismalino> Fwd from Nismal: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEufifwVrb82KkfweQ | 11:50 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @imraniqbal [Thanks, I'll have a look.], HAH found it 😃 | 12:03 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: `adb shell` … `DISPLAY=:0 libertine-container-manager exec -c "xdotool type "hello world""` | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: pushes `hello world` to a text field in a desktop app in libertine | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: provided you have xdotool installed in that container, the desktop app is the first one you started (DISPLAY=:0) and the cursor is currenly in that text field | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: also `DISPLAY=:0 libertine-container-manager exec -c "matchbox-keyboard"` | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/tCIRJ90f.png | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: gives you a keyboard inside the x session | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: (install matchbox-keyboard ofc) | 12:04 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [HAH found it 😃], Excellent! Thanks for digging that up. | 12:06 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> telega | 12:06 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> telegram is my memory 😂 | 12:06 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> I'll let you know how I get along. | 12:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> @J H [super nice ! which GPS did you install ?], I don't work with gps | 12:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> Sailfish has container apps, why don't we have them on UT? I'm envious 😆 | 12:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> is it because Sailfish is wayland and UT isn't yet? | 12:32 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> libertine is a 'container app'? but not what you mean i guess? | 12:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> yeah like using other distros and running full DE and such | 12:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> not really important but I think wanna try them 😄 | 12:40 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @Javacookies [yeah like using other distros and running full DE and such], a super long while ago i've seen someone install a complete Mate session in libertine, but that's well beyond the scope of usefullness i'd say | 12:43 |
| ubptgbot | maryam_jo0o0n was added by: maryam_jo0o0n | 12:48 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> isodrive in the open store turns your device in a bootable usb | 12:51 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> https://open-store.io/?sort=relevance&search=iso | 12:51 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @YougoChats [a super long while ago i've seen someone install a complete Mate session in libe …], yeah, I guess mir and xmir are the blocking points for this. | 13:08 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> or maybe you could make a chroot/lxc thing and build some sort of samsung Dex/Ubuntu for Android monstrosity on top of UT's kernel, but that's just masochistic 😆 | 13:10 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> anyways not something ready made | 13:11 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @YougoChats [or maybe you could make a chroot/lxc thing and build some sort of samsung Dex/Ub …], that's feasible I guess with the pinephone once wayland and xwayland works properly there and multi-monitor support. | 13:13 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [also DISPLAY=:0 libertine-container-manager exec -c "matchbox-keyboard"], Worked! Only the OSK is tiny! Now for the even stranger thing... the normal OSK has started working! | 13:14 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @Javacookies [that's feasible I guess with the pinephone once wayland and xwayland works prope …], if you really want different DE's yes, but at that point lomiri would start to do it's convergence thing well enough to just go with that | 13:15 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @imraniqbal [Worked! Only the OSK is tiny! Now for the even stranger thing... the normal OS …], heh. maybe the matchbox keyboard pulled in some needed dependencies? or does the osk only work when matchbox is present as well? | 13:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @imraniqbal [Worked! Only the OSK is tiny! Now for the even stranger thing... the normal OS …], the newly installed OSK called for help 😆 | 13:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @YougoChats [if you really want different DE's yes, but at that point lomiri would start to d …], yeah, I love lomiri but you know, I'm just curious about other DEs 😄 | 13:16 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @Javacookies [the newly installed OSK called for help 😆], Oh, interesting — I've install Gnumeric in both my extended rootfs as well as Libertine and it looks like the the rootfs installation uses the system OSK... | 13:17 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @Javacookies [the newly installed OSK called for help 😆], [Edit] Oh, interesting — I've installed Gnumeric in both my extended rootfs as well as Libertine and it looks like the the rootfs installation uses the system OSK... | 13:17 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> eventually, legacy apps running natively (but sandboxed/containerised) without libertine would be preferable i think | 13:19 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> (Photo, 1920x1034) https://irc.ubports.com/JI1FJaaA.png | 13:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> but both run in xmir? | 13:20 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> eventually something running in libertine exposes to xmir but weird magic happens first | 13:22 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> i think | 13:22 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> I even had LibreOffice Calc working a few times... | 13:23 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> every window runs in it's own xsession, which is handed over to an xmir window for lomiri to use. something like that | 13:24 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> rather than getting a window from mir/xmir directly | 13:25 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> triggering the OSK and piping through the keypresses gets lost somewhere | 13:26 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> Whoops, got that the wrong way around. The Gnumeric installed in Libertine is showing the OSK, not the one installed in rootfs! | 13:36 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> lol just get more weird that way | 13:45 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @Mark S [so is the process to fastboot flash recovery twrp.img and then once TWRP is inst …], Sorry, fell asleep. … Yes, that's about what will happen. You'll actually need to place the OTA image on the device's storage over USB. | 13:45 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @imraniqbal [Whoops, got that the wrong way around. The Gnumeric installed in Libertine is s …], but you don't need the matchbox-keyboard trick anymore? | 13:46 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [but you don't need the matchbox-keyboard trick anymore?], No — but it's good to know that the method is available. But as I said above, it's tiny. | 13:51 |
| ubptgbot | KOPP KLAUDIA was added by: KOPP KLAUDIA | 13:51 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> i'm curious what dependencies it pull in and what it fixed then | 13:51 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @YougoChats [i'm curious what dependencies it pull in and what it fixed then], I think it was always working and just a mix-up at my end. | 13:52 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> ah. ok | 13:52 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Javacookies [yeah like using other distros and running full DE and such], i mean you once ran full xfce via atu no? :p | 13:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @imraniqbal [Oh, interesting — I've installed Gnumeric in both my extended rootfs as well as …], did you need to set some sort of env variable to launch it? | 13:55 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @imraniqbal [Whoops, got that the wrong way around. The Gnumeric installed in Libertine is s …], ohw that kinda makes sense libertine handles integration with the system | 13:57 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @Fuseteam [i mean you once ran full xfce via atu no? :p], well that's via x forwarding … via xmir would be possible but I guess a bit terrible | 14:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> Wait via x forwarding via xmir? | 14:03 |
| ubptgbot | <imraniqbal> @Fuseteam [did you need to set some sort of env variable to launch it?], For the application installed in the extended rootfs? Saw this in one of the Telegram groups. Add these two lines to the `.desktop` file: … ```X-Ubuntu-Touch=true … X-Ubuntu-XMir-Enable=true``` | 14:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> ohw interesting | 14:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] ohw interesting thanks | 14:11 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> now i wonder if github is able to compile firefox so i can test this once i figure out how to make use of the compiled binaries so far | 14:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> only one way to find out https://github.com/Fuseteam/thefloweringash/runs/1480424228?check_suite_focus=true | 14:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> [Edit] well only one way to find out https://github.com/Fuseteam/thefloweringash/runs/1480424228?check_suite_focus=true | 14:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @Fuseteam [Wait via x forwarding via xmir?], no, separate things but that's also possible … I think Kris has a tutorial for that | 14:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> haha yeah thought so, xforwarding via xmir should be able to forward libertine apps i suppose | 14:24 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @Fuseteam [haha yeah thought so, xforwarding via xmir should be able to forward libertine a …], 🤔would that be better then how it's done now? | 14:32 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> (maybe even to get around the portrait mouse space vs landscape window problem?) | 14:33 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> There's no SIM card in my Pro1 running UBports, but so far I'm impressed with the battery life compared to SFOS. | 14:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> it would allow devices that don't support external display to utilize a another computer as a display for libertine apps | 14:34 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> The GPS doesn't seem to work, though, maybe that could save some battery too, in addition to 3G/4G being off | 14:34 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @Fuseteam [it would allow devices that don't support external display to utilize a another …], that would be a cool feature even on phones that do have external display support | 14:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> gps takes a while, as ut doesn't have assistented gps(agps) yet | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> That's what I was expecting too, same issue in SFOS, but it's been more than 24 hours now, including one hour in a car and about 30 min outside | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> but could that be piped back into the phone itself and be a better solution as to how libertine does it now? | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @YougoChats [that would be a cool feature even on phones that do have external display suppor …], true haha, this is something x has so most current linux distros can do that, including ubuntu touch, provided you have x apps installed | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] That's what I was expecting too, it's long on SFOS too since Mozilla stopped their location thingamajig, but it's been more than 24 hours now, including one hour in a car and about 30 min outside | 14:37 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Fuseteam [haha yeah thought so, xforwarding via xmir should be able to forward libertine a …], what? | 14:38 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> Xmir is an X11 server so that makes no sense :P | 14:39 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @YougoChats [but could that be piped back into the phone itself and be a better solution as t …], like have the .desktop file in the app drawer be a ssh xforward string to the libertine app | 14:39 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @YougoChats [like have the .desktop file in the app drawer be a ssh xforward string to the l …], eh? | 14:40 |
| ubptgbot | <NotKit> @Javacookies [Sailfish has container apps, why don't we have them on UT? I'm envious 😆], it's possible, just nobody tried to make it usesable | 14:41 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @dohbee [eh?], terminology is probably way off, sorry. but basically i'm wondering if xforwarding works to show libertine apps on another computer, could it also be a good way of displaying them on the phone, as opposed to the way libertine does it now? ( would it at least fix more problems than it creates :-P ) | 14:42 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> I'd be happy to reuse my LXC rootfs from SFOS on UBports | 14:42 |
| ubptgbot | <NotKit> https://github.com/sailfish-containers/harbour-containers - this runs nested QtWayland compositor with XWayland, can be ported minus UI | 14:43 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @YougoChats [terminology is probably way off, sorry. but basically i'm wondering if xforwardi …], no, and it doesn't make sense and it would remove any potential support for hw acceleration | 14:43 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> 🤷🏻♂️ | 14:44 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> hw acc is nice yes | 14:45 |
| ubptgbot | <NotKit> @NotKit [https://github.com/sailfish-containers/harbour-containers - this runs nested QtW …], https://github.com/sailfish-containers/qxdisplay | 14:48 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @NotKit [https://github.com/sailfish-containers/harbour-containers - this runs nested QtW …], The dev mentioned once that it could be possible to achieve hw acceleration in this by adding hybris-mobian repos, installing libhybris, and patching wlroots. Containers could then perhaps run in Wayland with hw-acceleration instead of XWayland t | 14:48 |
| ubptgbot | his way, but not tested. | 14:48 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Also the deprecate Wayland in SailfishOS is the reason why we have to use XWayland in the first place, if I understood well. | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Also the deprecated Wayland in SailfishOS is the reason why we have to use XWayland in the first place, if I understood well. | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @NotKit [https://github.com/sailfish-containers/harbour-containers - this runs nested QtW …], [Edit] The dev mentioned once that it could be possible to achieve hw acceleration in this by adding hybris-mobian repos, installing libhybris, and patching wlroots. Containers could then perhaps run in Wayland with hw-acceleration instead of XWa | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | yland, but not tested. | 14:49 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> @Flohack Google account login for contact sync is still broken right? | 14:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> google keeps breaking third party apps now, yes | 14:59 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @Javacookies [not really important but I think wanna try them 😄], For what it is worth, my desktop distro in SFOS is 95% of the time I spend on the device (and it is my daily driver). Niche use of course, but once I was sucked into it, there was no way back. Would love to see that on UBports too. | 15:00 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @Javacookies [not really important but I think wanna try them 😄], [Edit] For what it is worth, my desktop distro in SFOS is 95% of the time I spend on the device (and it is my daily driver). Niche use of course, but once I was sucked into it, there was no way back. Would love to see that on UBports too because I grew a dependence on my D | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | ebian container. | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> It was fixed long ago, I used a deb back then to fix it. I tried that deb today and it still works. You just need to install and reboot once. So why it is not merged since back then is the question. | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/UNsyK82E.deb | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ItsMeShouko [It was fixed long ago, I used a deb back then to fix it. I tried that deb today …], it does not fix it | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> @dohbee [it does not fix it], But I am able to sync with this even today | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> and linking to a deb posted on telegram doesn't clarify what the change is that you think wasn't merged | 15:02 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ItsMeShouko [But I am able to sync with this even today], you are one of the lucky few then | 15:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Javacookies> @kabouik [For what it is worth, my desktop distro in SFOS is 95% of the time I spend on th …], they're usable with touch and small screen? … actually I just saw a video with it and it looked kinda usable in terms of performance so I brought up this topic | 15:03 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> That's usable with touch screen thanks to Onboard, but not ideal of course. I use it on Pro1, made a couple detailed videos of it if you want | 15:03 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> @ItsMeShouko [<reply to media>], @mateosalta can you please tell what changes were included in this? | 15:04 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] That's usable with touch screen thanks to Onboard, but not ideal of course. I use it on Pro1, made a couple detailed videos of it if you want; perhaps one of those you are referring to | 15:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/fMTtsuXr.png | 15:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> "headless remote desktop" is i suppose the more general term | 15:24 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> @Fuseteam ["headless remote desktop" is i suppose the more general term], my kali desktop bro | 15:25 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Fuseteam ["headless remote desktop" is i suppose the more general term], pardon "rootless" is what they call it | 15:26 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @dohbee [Xmir is an X11 server so that makes no sense :P], eh? how did i not see this message earlier o.O | 15:27 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Oxy Kali [my kali desktop bro], did not see your screeny, why did you post it in here? | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> sorry is just someone have mi a2 | 15:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> i send this here sorry | 15:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @Oxy Kali [my kali desktop bro], [Edit] did not see your screeny, why did you randomly post it in here? | 15:32 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> is mi a2 not supported by the installer? | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> Not yet | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <ItsMeShouko> Recovery isn't working properly | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> probably best to ask about it in https://t.me/UBports_porting then | 15:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Oxy Kali> @dohbee [is mi a2 not supported by the installer?], yeah | 16:08 |
| ubptgbot | <xyn_dev> Is there a way to disable notifications on lockscreen? | 16:09 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> @UniversalSuperBox [Sorry, fell asleep. … Yes, that's about what will happen. You'll actually need to …], I managed to get Android installed back on the device last night but the wireless adapter is not working in Android either (so I was sold a non working device). Would it be difficult to get an external wireless adapter over USB working | 16:19 |
| ubptgbot | on this thing? :D | 16:19 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's probably not worth it, if it even worked | 16:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark S> well that is sad news. The company I bought this from will only issue a refund after it has been returned and honestly I'm a bit skeptical that they won't just take my money and phone and run. So I might keep it for testing. I have a Nexus 7 tablet that I will try next. | 16:26 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @xyn_dev [Is there a way to disable notifications on lockscreen?], you can turn off `Notifications and quick settings` in privacy settings | 16:53 |
| ubptgbot | <xyn_dev> Did that and teleports notifications still show up | 16:53 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> unfortunately we don't have notifications system as robust as on android yet. you can just turn off teleports notifications in notificaton settings too. | 16:55 |
| ubptgbot | <TotalSonic> @Flohack [No, sorry], Only on PinePhone using something like P-boot - https://xnux.eu/p-boot/ | 17:22 |
| ubptgbot | <TotalSonic> @Tzbluk [Is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu touch and Android yet?], Only on PinePhone using something like P-boot - https://xnux.eu/p-boot/ | 17:25 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @TotalSonic [Only on PinePhone using something like P-boot - https://xnux.eu/p-boot/], has anyone built android for pinephone? | 17:26 |
| ubptgbot | <TotalSonic> @dohbee [has anyone built android for pinephone?], Whoops - yeah, just realized that this is for dual booting with other Linux based os's, but not Android (at least not yet) | 17:32 |
| ubptgbot | <anibyl> Android requires a different bootloader (and maybe smth else), perhaps this was the issue. | 17:37 |
| ubptgbot | Gregor was added by: Gregor | 19:26 |
| ubptgbot | <Gregor> Hey I am looking for a phone that is not ancient on which Ubuntu touch is running. Can you give me some advice which phone I should looking for? | 19:33 |
| ubptgbot | <just_carlod> volla phone, ftex pro1x, oneplus 6 | 19:39 |
| ubptgbot | <just_carlod> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ | 19:39 |
| ubptgbot | <bettehem> The Pro1 X is a dream come through😍 | 19:40 |
| ubptgbot | <RealDanct12> pro1 = best phone | 19:40 |
| ubptgbot | <RealDanct12> pro1-x is much better because it has MOAR RAM | 19:40 |
| ubptgbot | <RealDanct12> and storage | 19:40 |
| ubptgbot | Jeske Doorman was added by: Jeske Doorman | 20:58 |
| ubptgbot | <RealDanct12> any redmi note 7 users here? | 21:18 |
| ubptgbot | <RealDanct12> need your help though | 21:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> @xyn_dev [Did that and teleports notifications still show up], You can disable notification bubbles in notifications settings | 22:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> You'll still see the notifications when you the notification list | 22:12 |
| ubptgbot | jared ETHAN was added by: jared ETHAN | 22:13 |
| ubptgbot | adders_2006 was added by: adders_2006 | 22:28 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> The Pro1 with Linux literally changed my evenings since last December. I used to use my desktop computer for [stuff]. Now mpst of the time I just lay back in my couch and use Debian on Pro1, still more efficient that most people I know with a laptop. :< | 22:34 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @RealDanct12 [pro1 = best phone], The Pro1 with Linux literally changed my evenings since last December. I used to use my desktop computer for [stuff]. Now most of the time I just lay back in my couch and use Debian on Pro1, still more efficient that most people I know with a laptop. :< | 22:34 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @RealDanct12 [pro1 = best phone], [Edit] The Pro1 with Linux literally changed my evenings since last December. I used to use my desktop computer for [stuff]. Now most of the time I just lay back in my couch and use Debian on Pro1 while being more social, still more efficient that most people I know with a laptop. :< | 22:34 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @RealDanct12 [pro1 = best phone], [Edit] The Pro1 with Linux literally changed my evenings since last December. I used to use my desktop computer for [stuff]. Now most of the time I just lay back in my couch and use Debian on Pro1 while being more social, still more efficient and multitasking more than most people I know with a laptop. :< | 22:35 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> @RealDanct12 [pro1 = best phone], [Edit] The Pro1 with Linux literally changed my evenings since last December. I used to use my desktop computer for [stuff]. Now most of the time I just jump in my couch and use Debian on Pro1 while being more social, still more efficient and multitasking more than most people I know with a laptop. :< | 22:37 |
| ubptgbot | <adders_2006> (Photo, 478x800) https://irc.ubports.com/Y3ftIuWw.png | 22:46 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Note that the people in my circle are not particularly tech savvy, that influences the comparison. :O | 22:46 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Note that the people in my circle are not particularly tech savvy, that influences the comparison. | 22:47 |
| ubptgbot | <PiecerEdd> i have a (not pro-1) phone with a hardware keyboard and debian install... i find it a bit hard to be productive 😆 the screen is a bitt oo small | 22:54 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> My Debian is heavily customized with i3 and other tweaks, I couldn't be productive with Mobian + Phosh (but still like the project) | 22:57 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Also I get a steady 250 chars/min on the Pro1 with no typo and 100% screen estate for the actual content, that makes a huge difference compared to touch phones | 22:58 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Also I'm sold to small 4.5 or 5" phones, but I don't think I could use Linux the same way with that size; works on the 6" Pro1 but I feel it probably is the limit | 23:00 |
| ubptgbot | <PiecerEdd> hmm mines on KDE... i tried i3 and it was insanely buggy and the issues seem to be related to the debian packages | 23:00 |
| ubptgbot | <PiecerEdd> soo | 23:00 |
| ubptgbot | <PiecerEdd> i reckon i probably need to quit letting my windows float and use them maximized or tiled instead 😆 | 23:00 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> (This is my setup; pllease remove if too off-topic: https://youtu.be/8PnDZtKzsSc) | 23:02 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] (This is my setup; please remove if too off-topic: https://youtu.be/8PnDZtKzsSc) | 23:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Fuseteam> Tiled ftw | 23:02 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> I made a better video with some talking to explain after but it's 20 min long, not the best introduction | 23:04 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] I made a better video with some talking to explain afterwards but it's 20 min long, not the best introduction | 23:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Gabrigubin> Hey good night for Europeans, does ringtones have changed from canonical times? | 23:05 |
| ubptgbot | <Gabrigubin> I remember old Ubuntu tone | 23:05 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Ubuntu is still available, but the new default ringtone is UBports. | 23:05 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> Anything to do to get ISOBoot to be seen by another device when an ISO is enabled? My UBports device is connected to another, Alpine ISO selected in ISO Drive. and yet no boot entry in the other device | 23:09 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Anything to do to get ISODrive to be seen by another device when an ISO is enabled? My UBports device is connected to another, Alpine ISO selected in ISO Drive. and yet no boot entry in the other device | 23:10 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Anything to do to get ISODrive to be seen by another device when an ISO is enabled? My UBports device is connected to a computer, Alpine ISO selected in ISO Drive. and yet no boot entry in the other device | 23:10 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Anything to do to get ISODrive to be seen by another device when an ISO is enabled? My UBports device is connected to a computer, Alpine ISO selected in ISO Drive, and yet no boot entry in the computer | 23:10 |
| ubptgbot | <kabouik> [Edit] Anything to do to get ISODrive to be seen by another device when an ISO is enabled? My UBports device is connected to a computer, Alpine ISO selected in ISO Drive, and yet no boot entry on the computer | 23:11 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/oDn1VnD1.png | 23:23 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> TIL... 😂 | 23:23 |
| ubptgbot | wadejbeckett was added by: wadejbeckett | 23:34 |
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