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| KGB-0 | gnome-shell Daniel van Vugt 205714 * commented merge request !43 * https://deb.li/umX2 | 01:49 |
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| jibel | Good morning all | 05:56 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:05 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:42 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 06:45 |
| duflu | And hi oSoMoN | 06:48 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:48 |
| oSoMoN | hi duflu & desktoppers | 06:48 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:49 |
| didrocks | et oSoMoN :) | 06:49 |
| jibel | Hi duflu didrocks oSoMoN | 06:52 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 06:53 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:04 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:06 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:06 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? | 07:06 |
| jibel | salut seb128 | 07:07 |
| seb128 | lut jibel, en forme aujourd'hui ? | 07:07 |
| jibel | seb128, oui bien, comme d'habitude :) et toi? | 07:10 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 07:10 |
| seb128 | jibel, ça va aussi :) | 07:10 |
| seb128 | hey duflu , how are you? | 07:10 |
| duflu | seb128, frustrated. My phone died today and with it most contact with my family. I'm just waiting for the local stores to get stock now :/ | 07:12 |
| duflu | How are you seb128? | 07:12 |
| seb128 | :-( | 07:12 |
| seb128 | I'm alright! | 07:12 |
| seb128 | are you trying to get the phone fixed or just getting a new one? | 07:12 |
| duflu | seb128, the old one refuses to restore and is out of warranty, so a new one it will be | 07:13 |
| seb128 | k | 07:13 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, on fait aller | 07:34 |
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| Laney | yo | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney , how are you? | 09:02 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | fedora will create a separate xwayland package which tracks xorg-server tip in order to get new features more quickly. do we want that too? | 09:06 |
| tjaalton | builds only the xwayland binary | 09:06 |
| tjaalton | and since it doesn't use any of the abi stuff, is compatible with xserver 1.20 | 09:06 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, do you know what sort of feature we are talking about? | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XwaylandStandalone#Benefit_to_Fedora | 09:11 |
| Laney | hey seb128 duflu | 09:11 |
| Laney | yeah I'm doing ok, get to have a chocolate from the advent calendar later 🎅 | 09:12 |
| Laney | you? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I should get one of those calendars :) | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I'm alright! | 09:13 |
| Laney | interesting, that xwayland change looks like it brings some nice features | 09:13 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, seems it would be interesting to us as well, you probably also have an opinion as the xorg maintainer between beeing request to backport improvements to the xserver or have a separate source? | 09:16 |
| tjaalton | separate source is easier | 09:16 |
| seb128 | duflu, ^ you might also have an opinion on the topic | 09:16 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, I would say to go for the separate source then | 09:17 |
| Laney | just got to remember to refresh it every now and then ;-) | 09:18 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah it's probably better for us to snapshot the "unstable" Xwayland source if it's that much better | 09:18 |
| duflu | We do our own stabilization by snapshotting features only 6-monthly | 09:19 |
| seb128 | jamesh, hey, weekly summary post reminder :-) | 10:01 |
| luna_ | good afternoon desktoppers | 13:57 |
| oSoMoN | good afternoon luna_ | 13:57 |
| luna_ | having a bit of a headache but will attend the meeting also oSoMoN Thunderbird 78.5.1 is released today | 13:58 |
| luna_ | and a new Firefox beta tommorow with the actual release being 16th December | 13:58 |
| oSoMoN | thanks for the heads up | 14:00 |
| luna_ | ### Meeting in 5 minutes ### | 14:25 |
| hellsworth | good morning d | 14:27 |
| hellsworth | esktoper | 14:27 |
| marcustomlinson | s | 14:29 |
| hellsworth | :) thanks marcustomlinson for completing my sentence | 14:30 |
| marcustomlinson | :D | 14:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-12-01 | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Dec 1 14:30:35 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:30 |
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| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 14:30 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 14:30 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | 🖖 | 14:30 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:30 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 14:30 |
| luna_ | o/ (doing some KDE and Arch work) but will try to catch up reading | 14:31 |
| seb128 | k, let's get started | 14:31 |
| didrocks999 | o/ | 14:31 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bug | 14:31 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | bug #1846699 | 14:32 |
| ubot5 | bug 1846699 in glibmm2.4 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Missing mechanism in Glibmm that prevents the support of some themes (CSS) in Gtkmm" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846699 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | some contributor added the bionic target | 14:33 |
| seb128 | I don't think it's a rls issue and it lacks a testcase & co | 14:33 |
| seb128 | I would vote to just untarget for now | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | +1 | 14:33 |
| didrocks999 | agreed | 14:33 |
| seb128 | let's do that | 14:34 |
| seb128 | k, done and commented | 14:35 |
| seb128 | that's it for bionic | 14:35 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bug | 14:35 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:35 |
| seb128 | nothing to review on that one | 14:36 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:36 |
| seb128 | bug #1905740 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1905740 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "SRU the current 3.36.5 stable update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905740 | 14:37 |
| * luna_ is back | 14:37 | |
| seb128 | I've been handling that one but forgot to assign, I will do that now | 14:37 |
| seb128 | the other one is a oem team request which is waiting for upstream review, we should probably accept it | 14:37 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I will asign to you to cherry pick once upstream accept it | 14:38 |
| Trevinho | ok | 14:38 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:38 |
| seb128 | that's it for focal | 14:39 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-gg-bug | 14:39 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:39 |
| luna_ | a bluetooth on Raspberry Pi bug and a nautlius bug | 14:39 |
| seb128 | (sorry the reports are slow to load for me today for some reason, I get the frame but not the content, need to refresh several times) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | ah, finally loaded | 14:39 |
| luna_ | 15:39 < seb128> (sorry the reports are slow to load for me today for some reason, I get the frame but not the content, need to refresh several times) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | luna_, thx :p | 14:39 |
| luna_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1905627 | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1905627 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth stops working on Raspberry Pi 4 with bluez 5.55-0ubuntu1.1 " [High,New] | 14:39 |
| luna_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1898462 | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1898462 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "[groovy] Drag and drop files from Desktop to Nautilus freezes gnome-shell" [High,Triaged] | 14:40 |
| seb128 | the first one should be owned by foundations, I will follow up with them | 14:40 |
| seb128 | since they did the changes | 14:40 |
| didrocks999 | agreed | 14:40 |
| seb128 | the other one I tagged, shell locks are annoying | 14:41 |
| oSoMoN | sounds like something we should accept | 14:42 |
| seb128 | if there is agreement I will assign to duflu | 14:43 |
| seb128 | Trevinho already has enough on his plate (not that Daniel isn't also busy...) | 14:43 |
| oSoMoN | the bug doesn't say whether hirsute is also affected, unless I missed something? | 14:43 |
| luna_ | 19.04, 19.10 and 20.10 is what i found in the launchpad bugs | 14:44 |
| oSoMoN | presumably it is, but it would be good to clarify | 14:44 |
| luna_ | could login to GNOME on my Hirsute after the meeting and test | 14:44 |
| seb128 | right, I expect it is since our shell stack didn't change yet | 14:45 |
| seb128 | luna_, thanks | 14:45 |
| seb128 | that's it for incoming | 14:45 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:45 |
| seb128 | bug #1902044 is for me | 14:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1902044 in deja-dup (Ubuntu Groovy) "SRU the current 42.5 stable update " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902044 | 14:45 |
| seb128 | bug #1903574 we rejected but forgot to untarget | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1903574 in appstream (Ubuntu Groovy) "isenkram-lookup crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903574 | 14:46 |
| seb128 | and that's it | 14:46 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-hh-bug | 14:46 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:46 |
| seb128 | bug #1905422 | 14:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1905422 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "CoinMP Solver not Available, option requires coinmp to be promoted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905422 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, you tagged that one? | 14:47 |
| luna_ | same Bluetooth on Raspberry Pi bug and some library used in Libreoffice Calc | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | I did | 14:47 |
| seb128 | it doesn't feel like a release issue or an important target to me | 14:48 |
| seb128 | or do you think it's an important feature for a class of users? | 14:48 |
| oSoMoN | I'm not sure tbh | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I'm not really familiar with coinMP | 14:48 |
| oSoMoN | but I felt it was interesting to bring up for consideration | 14:48 |
| seb128 | right | 14:48 |
| hellsworth | i really don't have coinmp familiarity either but i could start with the dependencies and list of bugs as oSoMoN suggested | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I think we should MIR if possible, one delta to remove and a feature parity added | 14:49 |
| hellsworth | maybe not rls material though? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | but -1 for rls | 14:49 |
| oSoMoN | I'm fine with untagging it, but I think that in any case we should investigate a bit further | 14:49 |
| hellsworth | agreed | 14:49 |
| seb128 | +1 | 14:49 |
| seb128 | k, let's do that | 14:49 |
| luna_ | https://github.com/coin-or/CoinMP | 14:49 |
| seb128 | I think it's easy enough to just write the MIR | 14:49 |
| oSoMoN | maybe check whether LO can be built with coinmp support, but have it as an optional dep? | 14:49 |
| hellsworth | i just assigned myself | 14:49 |
| seb128 | or that | 14:49 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:50 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:51 |
| seb128 | nothing to review which we haven't already talked about there | 14:51 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:51 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:51 |
| seb128 | the list is getting smaller which is nice | 14:52 |
| seb128 | the sphinx failure probably needs investigating | 14:52 |
| seb128 | anyone wanting to give it a try? | 14:52 |
| seb128 | I will card it on the trello, if there is a volunteer please grab it, otherwise we will assign | 14:53 |
| seb128 | colord build failure on s390x is an endian issue according to RAOF who is the Debian maintainer, we will let it to him for now | 14:54 |
| seb128 | other items are either things blocked on transition or new ones or flacky I think | 14:55 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, there's a newer sphinx in the release pocket already | 14:55 |
| seb128 | let's revisit those that are still there next week | 14:55 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ah, let me retrigger see if that's enough to make thing happy, thx for noticing | 14:56 |
| seb128 | or looks like doko did some of that and it's green | 14:56 |
| seb128 | so hopefully it's resolved | 14:57 |
| seb128 | k, let's move on | 14:57 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:57 |
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| luna_ | Wondering about the Daily Hirsute builds, some days it only builds ARM64 and not AMD64 is that expected? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | one topic from me, I sent an email but also mentioning it, please review your trello cards and get them updated | 14:57 |
| seb128 | luna_, there was a bug in one of the ISO building jobs which we fixed earlier today, amd64 image is back now | 14:58 |
| luna_ | seb128: ah alright cool :) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | np! | 14:58 |
| seb128 | @trello, please update your cards by eow, after that I will personally bag you until it's done :) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | any other topic? | 14:58 |
| luna_ | yep its up in 2 minutes on the mirror i use thanks :) | 14:59 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, ack | 14:59 |
| seb128 | alright, if there is no other topic it's a wrap | 14:59 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Dec 1 14:59:56 2020 UTC. | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-12-01-14.30.moin.txt | 14:59 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone! | 14:59 |
| didrocks999 | thanks! | 14:59 |
| Trevinho | ouch | 14:59 |
| luna_ | thanks | 15:00 |
| marcustomlinson | bag or nag? ;) | 15:00 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 15:00 |
| Trevinho | well I wanted to ask about https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/removal-of-gnome-shell-extension-from-universe-and-stop-auto-syncs/18437/4 | 15:00 |
| oSoMoN | nag in a bag | 15:00 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, lol, I can arrange a bag no worry ;) | 15:00 |
| Trevinho | if someone can have a look at that | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I will card it and handle, basically I was waiting for .7 to be uploaded to follow with the SRU team about the testing plan and sort that as well | 15:01 |
| Trevinho | seb128: sure, this is for hirsute though | 15:01 |
| Trevinho | even though there are a list of extensions that should be allowed | 15:01 |
| Trevinho | probably best way is to search which one is comfing from a source package != the extension itself | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, right, not hurry there though, but we need to revisit the list, jbicha pointed out that some need integration and make sense as a deb | 15:02 |
| seb128 | also | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | yes | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | that's why I wrote the above sentence | 15:02 |
| luna_ | drag and drop from the desktop to nautlius hangs on yesterdays hirsute build too | 15:08 |
| Laney | kill the desktop icons! | 15:10 |
| Laney | put a game there instead | 15:10 |
| Laney | (lander) | 15:10 |
| luna_ | Laney: :P | 15:10 |
| marcustomlinson | I tried dragging a game to nautlius, hangs as well | 15:11 |
| Laney | you could render the filesystem as the environment in the game | 15:12 |
| Laney | have to land on a program to execute it | 15:12 |
| Laney | or shoot stuff to delete | 15:12 |
| Laney | this is a great idea /me goes to find a VC | 15:12 |
| marcustomlinson | with a 60s countdown to complete the game otherwise the disk is formatted | 15:13 |
| Laney | bloody hell | 15:13 |
| luna_ | seb128: its broken in hirsute too | 15:14 |
| * Laney makes a note to review marcustomlinson's feature ideas :> | 15:14 | |
| seb128 | luna_, thanks for confirming | 15:14 |
| Laney | [harsh mode] | 15:14 |
| luna_ | gonna try to rest away my headache now, but cya next week again | 15:15 |
| seb128 | luna_, oh, get better! | 15:29 |
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